Men Are Now ‘marrying Up’ More Than Women: Study

movingforward13 said:
I agree. I tell other men this all the time- reach the younger generation.

If all women collectively wouldn't give them the time of day, I really believe they would straighten out. Well the ones with potential any way.
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I read an article just the other day that talked about how "cheap sex" is making men not even bother with marriage because they can get women/sex without it.

ETA: The article http://nypost.com/2017/09/02/cheap-sex-is-making-men-give-up-on-marriage/
"In generations past, women generally made men wait until marriage to have sex. To get a wife (and, therefore, sex), men had to be clean and presentable and have a good job. This, Regnerus reasons, gave men all the motivation they needed to become respectable members of society.
Now with porn on demand and greater reproductive freedom, sex is a commodity available at any time. This has left men with little motivation for marriage, "

"Regnerus argues that while women have maintained their role as sexual gatekeepers, men control the marriage market. And given the ease with which sex can be accessed, Regnerus believes that men’s motivations for marriage have all but disappeared."
 
Petal26 said:
One of my hubby's work friends married a man that makes less than half what she makes. She's a project manager at her company, makes really good money, has her own home, and the dude is a driller (not a joke) that worked for one of the companies she contracted. She flirted with him for years (even baked him cookies :barf:) while he lived with some girl who was a violent and skanky meth head in her parents house (She knew this and persisted, I'd be terrified of catching something). When Meth gal broke up with him, and kicked him out, he finally asked her out and proposed like 3 months later, probably less. You know, he needed a better place to stay.

They got married three years ago. He's still doing the same job. She just got a new job making more money. They have a baby. He comes home tired, and drinks. A lot. She's one of those "It's 2017, I can do it all" chicks but never misses a chance to emasculate him. Couldn't be me.
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You can't emasculate a man who is sitting at home living off a woman. He has already emasculated himself.
 
dicapr said:
You can't emasculate a man who is sitting at home living off a woman. He has already emasculated himself.
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An old boyfriend reconnected with me after I graduated from law school. He was pursuing me with focus and I was on to his game and didn't bite. Mind you, he was in EXACTLY the same place he was in at 19, living in his parents house, no job but with 3 kids to boot. I was so confused as to why he thought that he had a chance with me given where we were in our lives at 35.

But this is what got me-->I asked him what he wanted out of life and his ssa said: "I just want to drink my beer, smoke my weed, sit in my basement and live off my wife." I was floored. This man tried to trick me into giving him my address because he planned to pack up his house, put his stuff in his hoopty, and drive 3 hours to my house.

I cannot believe that I actually experienced that mess.
 
one of my girlfriends is a doctor. she met and married a trump supporting tow truck driver. Everything about him screamed gold digger to me. while they were married he 'bought' a house, moved her in it but she paid the mortgage. and then had the nerve to tell me my problem is that I want a man with education. no...I want an equal partner. So for me, that means he has an education.
 
meka72 said:
An old boyfriend reconnected with me after I graduated from law school. He was pursuing me with focus and I was on to his game and didn't bite. Mind you, he was in EXACTLY the same place he was in at 19, living in his parents house, no job but with 3 kids to boot. I was so confused as to why he thought that he had a chance with me given where we were in our lives at 35.

But this is what got me-->I asked him what he wanted out of life and his ssa said: "I just want to drink my beer, smoke my weed, sit in my basement and live off my wife." I was floored. This man tried to trick me into giving him my address because he planned to pack up his house, put his stuff in his hoopty, and drive 3 hours to my house.

I cannot believe that I actually experienced that mess.
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:rofl:
 
meka72 said:
An old boyfriend reconnected with me after I graduated from law school. He was pursuing me with focus and I was on to his game and didn't bite. Mind you, he was in EXACTLY the same place he was in at 19, living in his parents house, no job but with 3 kids to boot. I was so confused as to why he thought that he had a chance with me given where we were in our lives at 35.

But this is what got me-->I asked him what he wanted out of life and his ssa said: "I just want to drink my beer, smoke my weed, sit in my basement and live off my wife." I was floored. This man tried to trick me into giving him my address because he planned to pack up his house, put his stuff in his hoopty, and drive 3 hours to my house.

I cannot believe that I actually experienced that mess.
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I had to closes my eyes after reading this, but they are out there...
 
GraceJones said:
I feel like men who don't mind a woman paying for things are passive...
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I will never in life date a man that allows or suggests me to come out of my pocket. I did that dumb crap when I was younger. Nobody told me that was arse backwards! If he can't afford to take me out, or let that "women should treat sometimes" mess come out of his mouth, he will get blocked forever!
 
Petal26 said:
One of my hubby's work friends married a man that makes less than half what she makes. She's a project manager at her company, makes really good money, has her own home, and the dude is a driller (not a joke) that worked for one of the companies she contracted. She flirted with him for years (even baked him cookies :barf:) while he lived with some girl who was a violent and skanky meth head in her parents house (She knew this and persisted, I'd be terrified of catching something). When Meth gal broke up with him, and kicked him out, he finally asked her out and proposed like 3 months later, probably less. You know, he needed a better place to stay.

They got married three years ago. He's still doing the same job. She just got a new job making more money. They have a baby. He comes home tired, and drinks. A lot. She's one of those "It's 2017, I can do it all" chicks but never misses a chance to emasculate him. Couldn't be me.
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Ha! The Meth addict broke up with him and kicked him out! :lachen:
 
shortdub78 said:
Ha! The Meth addict broke up with him and kicked him out! :lachen:
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That's the best part IMO. If your standards are lower than a unemployed junkie that lives in her dads basement in her 30s, you gotta do some soul searching.

dicapr said:
You can't emasculate a man who is sitting at home living off a woman. He has already emasculated himself.
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He probably thinks she's being unfair because he does have a job. It's just a terrible one.

These are white folks, BTW.
 
LiftedUp said:
More women are marrying down so it's not surprising that consequently more men are marrying up.

Additionally, how do you go on a date with someone without knowing their job/career? I wouldn't even waste my time on a first date with a man I couldn''t envision a second date with.
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You should know in conversations before a date of a man is a loser, weed head, bum, etc. Men will tell you what they do typically without you asking anyway.
 
Many of these average dudes are attentive, desiring of marriage, and they move quickly. For the average woman who is single after a certain age-- courtship with these men feels easy. You can have your ring and wedding in a year with little effort. This is how they get caught up. The alpha males who have a lot going for themselves are a challenge. It takes a woman with a certain mindset to be able to attract such men and get them to commit. Many women aren't there and can't compete in that playground nor do they have a desire to. I know I wasn't :look:. I'm investing in myself right now to get to that level because I don't want to settle. Pride prevents many women from coming to terms with this but I'm not going to front-- I don't have it naturally, but I can surely learn. The women of LHCF are a rare breed. Most women are lazy in courtship and do not have the confidence and discipline necessary to seek out the best of the best. They want to be cooking dinner with bae and watching movies on the couch asap.

I feel like a woman's ambition in her love life is equally matched by the man's ambition in his daily life (career, finances, etc...).
 
meka72 said:
An old boyfriend reconnected with me after I graduated from law school. He was pursuing me with focus and I was on to his game and didn't bite. Mind you, he was in EXACTLY the same place he was in at 19, living in his parents house, no job but with 3 kids to boot. I was so confused as to why he thought that he had a chance with me given where we were in our lives at 35.

But this is what got me-->I asked him what he wanted out of life and his ssa said: "I just want to drink my beer, smoke my weed, sit in my basement and live off my wife." I was floored. This man tried to trick me into giving him my address because he planned to pack up his house, put his stuff in his hoopty, and drive 3 hours to my house.

I cannot believe that I actually experienced that mess.
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You are so lucky that he was honest and told you this.
 
RUBY said:
You are so lucky that he was honest and told you this.
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He just confirmed what I already knew. Lol.

Wait til I tell y'all this episode. I went over his house for dinner to catch up (we've known each other since middle school). He didn't have anything to drink so he drove us up to Dairy Mart to get something to drink. He hops out of the car and is through the door before I even get out of the car. (So I'm ticked that he didn't hold the door open for me.) By the time I make it inside the store, he was already walking to the register. Why did this negro ask me if he could borrow a quarter?

Oh yeah, he had weed in the car. Did I mention that I was studying for the bar exam? I was so paranoid that we were going to get pulled over and my future was going down the drain because I was at the wrong place at the wrong time.

So yeah, I knew exactly what he was about.
 
movingforward13 said:
They make money out here but all I have met so far are cheating idiots and single bachelors using the money to get what they want from women. When they are done USING them, they discard and repeat the process elsewhere. It is like they don't care about marriage and family any more.
This is why I talk about my business so much... because I am on mine. They get upset when their "usual tricks" don't work. I have one sending me screen shots now of all his money and brand new i8 he just bought "cash". And my response to him has been "Sir- do you need a CPA because I am not looking to be your woman" - nicely said of course: "I am focusing on growing my business right now, not really dating".
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exactly. I'm moving up fast, learning how to invest so those investment dividends become even a partial 2nd income (passively) and even a first income if catastrophe or illness strikes (#singlemomlifegottahaveplanb)

ain't nobody got time to be entertaining men playing games or looking for a come up.
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matter of fact, since I got my new car, which is nothing fancy, kangs suddenly trying to holla... loud. please... get on with your rusty '97 corolla.
 
DarkJoy said:
exactly. I'm moving up fast, learning how to invest so those investment dividends become even a partial 2nd income (passively) and even a first income if catastrophe or illness strikes (#singlemomlifegottahaveplanb)

ain't nobody got time to be entertaining men playing games or looking for a come up.
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matter of fact, since I got my new car, which is nothing fancy, kangs suddenly trying to holla... loud. please... get on with your rusty '97 corolla.
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Agreed- yessssss I know I just bought a 2017 Accord EX-L, black on black two weeks ago. This car is f'ing SEXY. All these negros eyeing it at the gym and I am like "Yeah- that's mine, please move." Gonna put some tints on it and LED head lights soon- then they are really gonna go crazy lol.
 
What would the advice be to a high achieving well paid woman in her 30s/40s looking to settle down though? To me there doesn't seem to be much advice and dating doesn't always come natural to everyone. Let alone having to be on the look out for a high earning, sensible grown man.

I doubt that most women who do marry down, do it because they truly want to. Occasionally you'll come across women who prefer to lead a relationship but most just settle due to the fear of never finding a well of man.
 
ForestRose said:
What would the advice be to a high achieving well paid woman in her 30s/40s looking to settle down though? To me there doesn't seem to be much advice and dating doesn't always come natural to everyone. Let alone having to be on the look out for a high earning, sensible grown man.

I doubt that most women who do marry down, do it because they truly want to. Occasionally you'll come across women who prefer to lead a relationship but most just settle due to the fear of never finding a well of man.
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I'm in this boat (though more like well achieving lol). no clue....
 
SurferBabe said:
Many of these average dudes are attentive, desiring of marriage, and they move quickly. For the average woman who is single after a certain age-- courtship with these men feels easy. You can have your ring and wedding in a year with little effort. This is how they get caught up. The alpha males who have a lot going for themselves are a challenge. It takes a woman with a certain mindset to be able to attract such men and get them to commit. Many women aren't there and can't compete in that playground nor do they have a desire to. I know I wasn't :look:. I'm investing in myself right now to get to that level because I don't want to settle. Pride prevents many women from coming to terms with this but I'm not going to front-- I don't have it naturally, but I can surely learn. The women of LHCF are a rare breed. Most women are lazy in courtship and do not have the confidence and discipline necessary to seek out the best of the best. They want to be cooking dinner with bae and watching movies on the couch asap.

I feel like a woman's ambition in her love life is equally matched by the man's ambition in his daily life (career, finances, etc...).
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This. Entire post. Yes.
 
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