Katarina Phang's Dating Philosophy

I enjoyed the High Value Woman audio. Nothing groundbreaking but I liked the delivery.

In a nutshell, the key to relationship success is overcoming anxiety. That's pretty much the basis of all of her teachings. The anxiety issue might not only be relationship-related, if you struggle with anxiety in your day to day life, it will affect the ease in which you enter and thrive in relationships. The less you worry about the outcome of anything in life, the more likely you are to attract great things. Women who don't deal with anxiety are high value by default. They aren't invested in the outcome of anything, and that makes them magnetic in all aspects of life.

Anxiety makes us lose faith in our feminine essence. Anxiety and worry is for men. Feminine energy cannot thrive in an environment where there is concern about the future. We have to tap into our masculine energy for work and finance-- because the future is important in that areas of life. But in relationships, women are intended to relax, receive, and allow things to be without resistance. Modern women struggle with making that switch. Your experience as a woman will be more rewarding if you learn how to lean back in your dealings with men.

She shares a breakthrough moment she had while attending a wine tasting event with her partner. This breakthrough brought her to tears.

The secret to being desirable, cherished, and the object of affection for every man you come across is this...

You don't have to do anything. The less you do, the less you worry, the less you care... the better the result.

It's so simple. Care less, think less, worry less... and you'll get more. You have to have faith in your desirability and just allow things to be. Surrender and everything will fall into place. Of course a woman should put some effort into things like building her rotation (getting out there, creating online dating profiles, being open minded, etc...), but most of her time should be spent taking a backseat and letting the man put in the work.

The more you resist what is, the more you will struggle with getting what you want out of life.

Qualities of High Value Women (HVW)

High value women do not cling to people or experiences. They are happy within themselves regardless of the outcome. They are happy if they are single, married, or unmarried. They are full inside and a relationship only adds to that fullness. They enjoy what is in the moment. When the experience ends, they go on with their lives. They understand that nothing is constant but change, so they are committed to being happy regardless. Women who are happy for no reason are high value by default because such women are rare. Once you become full inside, you will become a goddess that no man can ever leave.

A high value woman doesn't cling to men who aren't committed. She doesn't want a man who doesn't want her. Her default mode is to never get ahead of any guy. She is always observing while enjoying the experience. If through observation it is clear that he isn't as invested as she would like him to be, she removes herself from the situation. Emotional investment in a guy who hasn't proven himself and hasn't committed is leading with masculine energy. Enjoy his company but observe while remaining emotionally detached.

High value women are easy to lose. They don't waste time on wishy-washy men. She might date a man who is unsure, but since she keeps her options open, and once he no longer brings value, he's cut off. Katarina likens this to leaving the scene of a crime with no emotional entanglements. It seems like common sense but most women do not operate this way. As soon as a man shows uncertainty, the woman jumps into fix-it mode and starts having talks with him, nagging, and doing everything in her power to get him to act right. The less interest he shows the more she wants him. On the flipside, a HVW takes the path of least resistance. Most women suffer and are not happy because they expend so much energy trying to move a mountain. That's not our job. Let him move the mountain. A HVW is always on the same page as the man. If he's wishy-washy, she is wishy-washy, too. If he's not sure, she's not sure either. If he's dating others, she's dating others. Even if he says he isn't dating others, if he only sees her once a week, she still dates other men. :look: She inspires any man who finds her attractive to always want to come to her with more because she doesn't demand or expect, she's happy with what is, and when she's no longer happy, she bounces. She keeps a detached attitude with men who aren't committed. She will keep some uncertain men around if they bring value because she has nothing to lose since she is always seeing others. Once they stop bringing value, she drops them. Savage.

High value women have options. They build rotations and don't stop seeing other men until they have a commitment (not just verbally, but through his actions). Having options isn't selfish-- in fact, it makes her relationships better. She is not as anxious or dependent on a man when she has a rotation. She is cooler, more free, and more fun when she isn't banking on one man who hasn't decided if he's ready to commit. It's easier to lean back when you have a rotation. It's easier to observe and know if a man is the one when you have other men to compare him to. Women with options more easily radiate in their goddess energy. She is taking care of herself first without apology. They feel powerful and in control. Such a woman is rare and thus high value by default.

High value women vibrate at a higher frequency. There is no worry, anxiety, lack, or insecurity. Her life is easy. She's an inspiration to men because her energy is always light and joyful. She doesn't force expectations onto men, she's easy to please, and for that reason men want to please her more. They are motivated to give. Guys are hooked on her fullness and happiness.

High value women accept or reject. That's it. They don't fix men. She observes, takes notes, and chooses the path of least resistance. She doesn't try to convince or sway men. Men either suit her or they don't. Grown men act right with the women they want to act right with. If he does stuff she doesn't like and she can be at peace with it, she keeps him around for as long as he brings value. If she can no longer be at peace with it, she walks away. No nagging or trying to fix it. This is how she keeps her life happy and stress free. HVW don't demand, they inspire through being easy to lose.

High value women have fun whenever they can without guilt. Fun is a HVW's main priority. It is a way of life to her. HVW are greedy. They don't worry about guilt or societal expectations. They are above it. They keep their emotional tank full at all times, and they don't need a particular guy to make them happy. She is fine no matter what because her happiness comes from within. She trusts herself. She trusts her feelings, and she is always true to herself. She doesn't follow the definitions of right and wrong that people assign to her. She comes first.

In conclusion, being high value is about mindset. Your mind can be your greatest ally or enemy. If you are consistently having issues with men it is time to look within and analyze how your thinking patterns influence your behavior. Most women have been wired to think obsessively about relationships. Our minds are always searching for answers and certainty. We never enjoy the moment because our minds feel like the present is boring. We are addicted to conflict and self-loathing because it gives our minds a challenge. Let it go. There is power in surrender. Be fun, free, unbothered, and so in love with yourself and your life that you are joyful regardless.
This post is the holy grail. Cooying and pasting this to my notes on my phone so that I can re-read when necessary.
 
It would be nice if I had posted them lol

I watch this almost daily





This a few times a week




Now I recently found this and will try to watch daily:




I mostly listen when I'm not distracted and try to close my eyes and visualize a relationship, how he will court me, his looks , and our dates while its playing.lol

I also journal what the guy will look like, his qualities, etc.

I also try to maintain my relationship with God and continue to pray and build my relationship with Jesus. I don't feel like it's one or the other but I feel like we can incorporate both. I was always journaling about getting married way before the law of attraction

Listening to the 1st one (high quality women) gave me a headache. Dunno why. I persevered through it though. I watched another video after that. No headache. I came back and watched the high quality women video again and boom! Headache came back. I pushed through and finished it again. I'm glad I finished it both times but I won't listen again cuz of the headaches. Weird.
 
Listening to the 1st one (high quality women) gave me a headache. Dunno why. I persevered through it though. I watched another video after that. No headache. I came back and watched the high quality women video again and boom! Headache came back. I pushed through and finished it again. I'm glad I finished it both times but I won't listen again cuz of the headaches. Weird.


Weird.....!! Interesting.
 
Listening to the 1st one (high quality women) gave me a headache. Dunno why. I persevered through it though. I watched another video after that. No headache. I came back and watched the high quality women video again and boom! Headache came back. I pushed through and finished it again. I'm glad I finished it both times but I won't listen again cuz of the headaches. Weird.

Your body/mind is telling you something.
 
Your body/mind is telling you something.
I agree. Exactly what it is though is open to interpretation. I'm thinking the headaches represent a block I might have to relationships right now. I'm relationship adverse. My family and friends want me to get a boyfriend but deep inside I don't want love right now. I want to be alone. It could mean something else but that's all I got for now.
 
I agree. Exactly what it is though is open to interpretation. I'm thinking the headaches represent a block I might have to relationships right now. I'm relationship adverse. My family and friends want me to get a boyfriend but deep inside I don't want love right now. I want to be alone. It could mean something else but that's all I got for now.

I think awareness is the first step. A lot of people who say they want a relationship are actually very ambivalent and don't realize that they cause their own frustration via self-sabotage. Just exploring that you might not actually want a relationship is actually a good thing. I think KP would say release any resistance you feel to external pressure that you have to get a boyfriend. That will just continue to cause more frustration. Good luck as you process this.
 
Did it improve dating for you?
It simplified it and made me more confident in what I was doing. I realized I'm old fashioned so I didn't need most of the lessons. I was already doing those things and being ridiculed by my friends because of it. Of course I needed a few of them such as don't text him indefinitely. After 5 or 6 exchanges end the conversation. I also needed a reminder to look extra good even when running to Walmart cuz men are ALWAYS looking. Another good read is: Men don't love women like you. We have a whole thread about that book here and I recommend you start there.
 
I really enjoyed this recent email from KP:

I am watching with excitement as my clients see results with the inner work they have been doing. One of them is Marina. She painfully let go of the guy she had been dating for four months six months ago because his High School sweetheart was back in the picture and he still had feelings for her. She was one of my very first clients when I first ventured into this business in 2010.

She found me again and signed up for private coaching as well as two cycles in a row of Journey Inward and Leaning Back workshop. She was so committed to doing her inner work and embracing her feminine essence. She's a high-powered, successful, assertive and independent career woman. She is so used to being in her masculine all her life.

This breakup forced her to look deep inside and she has been steadfastly following my advice to let him go, let go of the anger and anxiety and lean back the entire time. For some reason deep down I had a feeling that he would be coming back.

She had a hard time not reaching out like everyone else. But I told her that after knowing me she knew what most women didn't when it comes to attracting men. She's a rare woman on that virtue alone. And I'm pretty sure like most women her ex's HS sweetheart has no clue about the principles I teach her either. So just let him finish his journey -and let the relationship run its course because like most relationships, especially the one rebuilt on HS fantasy from some 20 or so years ago, this one will too.

Throughout the breakup period, he would email her from time to time...just wondering how she was and she always replied cordially. No jadedness. No questioning about his relationship. She was just mirroring him...perfectly.

Then one day about 2 months ago she emailed me with the subject title "Your program works too well!!!" in which she included his email asking to meet her for lunch. Then at the last minute he needed to reschedule thanks to his not-so-great financial situation leaving her somewhat anxious but she responded graciously that made him really surprised by her lack of reactiveness. He called her "a saint" for that. Like all my successful clients, she gets noticed as very different to most other women.

That was her apparent victory in this battle against her own demons: leaving behind her old anxious, aggressive and masculine-energy self.

Finally they reunited for their first lunch last month (yep after leaning back almost a whole month) on which time he told her that he and his HS sweetheart were still together! But you know a happy guy in a relationship won't usually ask an ex to have lunch with him out of the blue. I just told her not to have her expectations soar and just treat it as a part of embracing the moment whatever that is.

I knew it was a matter of waiting the other shoe to drop.

Sure enough a week or so later he contacted her again and asked her out again. They just had dinner last night and guess what...he told her he had broke up with her!

The other shoe has indeed dropped.

Marina will continue doing what she's been doing the last 6 months: focusing on herself and her own happiness and taking one day at a time. And she's still dating too, mind you. We never know what the future holds for both of them but I have my suspicion that he won't be able to resist her this time around. I will surely keep you posted so stay subscribed.

Like I always say if you practice what I teach to a tee, you won't be single for very long. A woman like her -and you- is hard to find.

She mused in the ladies group: "Just got back from my dinner and we had a nice time together. I did not ask about his relationship and he told me that they had broken up recently. At that moment, all I could say that I was sorry to hear that. Then the rest of the night was just staying in the moments with him. The night ended nicely, he asked if he could see me again during my winter break. I said yes and we shall see....

For the last six months, I wasn't focusing on getting him back. I was focusing on my personal and professional lives. I learned to embrace my feminine essence and let go a lot of my "shoulds" and "expectations". Also, I learn to lean back in several areas of my life which minimized unnecessary dramas and anxieties. What I gain is an important life lesson in the past 6 months.

The whole leaning back was an amazing experience for me for the past 6 months! When we broke up I was sad and shock because we did share an amazing connection. Then I realized that I cannot hold on to him because he is/was on his journey. I have to let him go so that he can figure out his feelings. I am not going to be in someone's way to true love.

During those times I did not chase, pine or call him. Seriously, this was sooooo hard for me being a very assertive and go-getter person. I shifted my anxious energy into other areas of my life and now I see significant improvements! I did let him go which was the hardest thing to do but I did it to save my own sanity.

In the past, I went through several broken relationships with high anxiety and stress which was a horrible horrible place to be. After leaning back, I realized that letting go and regaining myself back has helped to find my inner calmness and feminine essence. Kat is a gem in helping us to understand this."

This is an inspiration to us all in whatever situation your love life is at the moment.

Curious the kind of inner work Marina has been doing that has got her into this stage?


The Journey Inward: The First Steps Toward Feminine Magnetism

Leaning Back and Cultivating Feminine Workshop

My method might take time for it to work but it lasts because it's not based on tactic or strategy. It lasts because it's about healing and personal growth. If you want to know the basic of my method, my ebook is the way to go first. I have added more bonuses recently. It's an incredible investment for a better love life starting today!
 
It simplified it and made me more confident in what I was doing. I realized I'm old fashioned so I didn't need most of the lessons. I was already doing those things and being ridiculed by my friends because of it. Of course I needed a few of them such as don't text him indefinitely. After 5 or 6 exchanges end the conversation. I also needed a reminder to look extra good even when running to Walmart cuz men are ALWAYS looking. Another good read is: Men don't love women like you. We have a whole thread about that book here and I recommend you start there.
She teaches these things? I didn't realize.
 
Anybody still following Kat?

I know I have low self esteem and insecurities, but it's like I find dating so hard. Other women have low self esteem too and they seem to find me

I think if my attitude changes, things will change. But it's hard.

I do online dating because I don't get approached in real life. Most of these guys will text you endlessly without asking you out. Either that, or they'll ask to hook up within the first couple messages.

Or, if they do ask you out, they're not really interested in courting you. Sometimes there's not even any kissing or flirting. You'll just be talking and then they ask you to sleep with them. No warm up. And then they ask you to go dutch and things like that.

Is it because I'm in my 20s?
 
Anybody still following Kat?

I know I have low self esteem and insecurities, but it's like I find dating so hard. Other women have low self esteem too and they seem to find me

I think if my attitude changes, things will change. But it's hard.

I do online dating because I don't get approached in real life. Most of these guys will text you endlessly without asking you out. Either that, or they'll ask to hook up within the first couple messages.

Or, if they do ask you out, they're not really interested in courting you. Sometimes there's not even any kissing or flirting. You'll just be talking and then they ask you to sleep with them. No warm up. And then they ask you to go dutch and things like that.

Is it because I'm in my 20s?
This thread is for you then
https://longhaircareforum.com/threads/dating-for-marriage-advice-tips-suggestions.822367/
 
Anybody still following Kat?

I know I have low self esteem and insecurities, but it's like I find dating so hard. Other women have low self esteem too and they seem to find me

I think if my attitude changes, things will change. But it's hard.

I do online dating because I don't get approached in real life. Most of these guys will text you endlessly without asking you out. Either that, or they'll ask to hook up within the first couple messages.

Or, if they do ask you out, they're not really interested in courting you. Sometimes there's not even any kissing or flirting. You'll just be talking and then they ask you to sleep with them. No warm up. And then they ask you to go dutch and things like that.

Is it because I'm in my 20s?

Going Dutch, no romance, asking for sex and not even flirting or nothing is never “in” or okay, ever. It may or may not have anything to do with your age. Lots of older guys try the same things. Don’t let these guys waste your precious time. If they don’t want to date and court that’s their business. They just have to KIM and play that game with someone else.
 
6 women who follow KP's teachings have gotten engaged in the past week. She seems to really know what she's talking about and I like that she's anti-agenda and anti-strategy. I've been browsing on the FB page and I think I've distilled her teachings down to a few points:

-Lean back mentally, physically and emotionally; let men lead so they can prove themselves (or eliminate themselves); just let them be; if a guy isn't in front of you, he doesn't exist
-Rotate rotate rotate to avoid getting prematurely stuck on one guy
-Don't "arrive" before the guy ie assume you will end up in a relationship, married, have his babies :look: ; really try to stay in the moment because now is the only real moment
-Invest in yourself and put yourself first (self-care)
-Deal with your anxiety and triggers; do the inner work
-Have deal-breakers but drop boundaries; if a situation isn't working for you simply leave
-Have no expectations of other people--again just let them show you who they are by their actions
-Don't assume an EUM is a bad person, narcissist or sociopath; men process their feelings differently than us and that's ok; also some men are just clueless
-Tap into your feminine energy
-You really don't have to do anything; it's about how you are being and showing up

What do y'all think about this list? Do you agree or disagree? What do you struggle with?
 
6 women who follow KP's teachings have gotten engaged in the past week. She seems to really know what she's talking about and I like that she's anti-agenda and anti-strategy. I've been browsing on the FB page and I think I've distilled her teachings down to a few points:

-Lean back mentally, physically and emotionally; let men lead so they can prove themselves (or eliminate themselves); just let them be; if a guy isn't in front of you, he doesn't exist
-Rotate rotate rotate to avoid getting prematurely stuck on one guy
-Don't "arrive" before the guy ie assume you will end up in a relationship, married, have his babies :look: ; really try to stay in the moment because now is the only real moment
-Invest in yourself and put yourself first (self-care)
-Deal with your anxiety and triggers; do the inner work
-Have deal-breakers but drop boundaries; if a situation isn't working for you simply leave
-Have no expectations of other people--again just let them show you who they are by their actions
-Don't assume an EUM is a bad person, narcissist or sociopath; men process their feelings differently than us and that's ok; also some men are just clueless
-Tap into your feminine energy
-You really don't have to do anything; it's about how you are being and showing up

What do y'all think about this list? Do you agree or disagree? What do you struggle with?


Her teachings really resonate with me. I actually prefer this to MDLWLY as something about his approach just feels more masculine. I havent gone back through the book to pinpoint specifically why, but its just a vibe i get from it. the book and Kat's teachings are aligned though, because they both encourage women to build the inner confidence first. Its impossible to lean back if youre not confident and secure with what you bring to the table, your beauty and all the amazingly wonderful non-achievement traits you have that would make any man blessed and highly favored to have you. When your confidence is on fleek, your thirst is quenched, anxiety extinguished and you move in a manner that lets a man know you recognize your worth and will not run after him trying to convince him that you are his person. It also helps you not to internalize rejection or feel less than if he doesnt reciprocate your feelings, because you dont take personally anymore and own that there must be someone better out there for you.
 
Her teachings really resonate with me. I actually prefer this to MDLWLY as something about his approach just feels more masculine. I havent gone back through the book to pinpoint specifically why, but its just a vibe i get from it. the book and Kat's teachings are aligned though, because they both encourage women to build the inner confidence first. Its impossible to lean back if youre not confident and secure with what you bring to the table, your beauty and all the amazingly wonderful non-achievement traits you have that would make any man blessed and highly favored to have you. When your confidence is on fleek, your thirst is quenched, anxiety extinguished and you move in a manner that lets a man know you recognize your worth and will not run after him trying to convince him that you are his person. It also helps you not to internalize rejection or feel less than if he doesnt reciprocate your feelings, because you dont take personally anymore and own that there must be someone better out there for you.

I couldn't get into that book and returned it. His language was foul too :nono:
I'm surprised at how much I've come to really like KP's teachings (even more than RR in some regard) because her teachings are very practical but self-honoring. Like you said, you don't have to convince anyone of your value. You know your worth first and others treat you accordingly.

I really get it now: WHY would I want to be with someone who isn't crazy about me or who doesn't recognize all my value?! o_O :huh: Like that doesn't even make sense? Well, it made sense to the old emotionally unavailable me (http://katarinaphang.com/emotionally-unavailable-woman/). But the new me is more confident, less anxious, and less reactive. This year, I am approaching life with hands open (to receive what's meant to be and let go of what isn't). I'm trusting in the process, that everything is falling into place exactly the way it should.
 
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Hey y'all!

I'm reading a book now called If the Buddha Dated and the foundation is very similar to what Kat teaches. It is more spiritual in nature, and caters towards men and women, but digs more into the underlying self-improvement aspect and focuses purely on self. If you are looking for a more affordable alternative to her stuff, I'd recommend this book (or audiobook).
 
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