Black Madonnas

[MyInvisibleChyrsalis]

I was doing a search on the innanets about Marriages and of course I ran into the 50-11 articles about Black women this and Black women that and how we can't find a mate, are unattractive, are the lowest on the totem poll...you've read the like. It got me a little agitated but I consoled myself with the thought that the reason we seem to always be under attack is because Satan doesn't like us. We are women after all and he does have emnity against us, right? But then it got me thinking about dark skinned individuals in general. On every single continent, in every single culture, ther is a stigma against darker skin.

Why the systematic hatred of darker skin? Colonization? Sure, but I think it's deeper than that. While I was searching I came across something interesting. Black Madonnas. Apparently many of the ancient portrayals of the Virgin Mary were depicted with black or very dark skin. In Europe and France these images are explained away by historians as the build up of the soot from candles burning. What are your thoughts? COuld the hatred of dark skinned women come from our resemblance to Mary?

 

[MyInvisibleChyrsalis]

 

[Lucia]

No it's not the candles or soot the ancient people knew the real Virgin Mary was a black woman. I mean where was she born where did her people originally come from the Jews came from Africa they left slavery and settled in Isreal no where does it ever say in the Bible those people stepped foot in Europe or mixed with them.
Then they lost Israel and wandered all over eastern and western Europe converting Europeans and intermarrying with them thus becoming a mixed race people of varied racial ethnic make up but they were Africans first.
Like you say eurocentrism whitewashed Mary and JC etc. After the crusades they brought the riches and religions and knowledge to europe later they changed things.
Remember that all religions have they're origins in Africa or the east none of the western Christian religions have they're roots in Europe. They were pagans (roman and Greek mythology it was their religion and what they believed) wiccans/witchcraft or Satan worshippers all over Europe.

In Mexico Guadalupe is black they even call her Mora or morena =Moor or decendant of moors more to the point of African decent.
In Italy the original virgin are all dark too at the least they're medium brown skinned like our lady of mount Carmel the Virgen Mary patron of Poland and Brazil are all black.
Look it up you'll find Eurocentric fair skinned renditions of Mary but they are not authentic the authentic ones are the older ones with brow bronze or black skin. Check out the discovery channel documentaries on Ancient Greece and the Greeks true origins that they weren't considered white until the 20th century. I won't even start on the African aboriginals in the Americas before Columbus and the Carib and pacific islands and how inky 10% of slaves in the Americas were from then African slave trade the rest were already here. Check YT There's some deep info there too. Search books and Internet sites its all there.

 

[Guitarhero]

This is the one St. Luke painted of the Virgin and Child. Icons aren't just depictions, they have meanings based upon the positioning of the figures, the expressions, the colors and everything else. Black used to be a very positive image and would have represented some aspects of the Virgin Mary's nature and position.

 

[MyInvisibleChyrsalis]

I think its so cool

 

[Guitarhero]

No it's not the candles or soot the ancient people knew the real Virgin Mary was a black woman. I mean where was she born where did her people originally come from the Jews came from Africa they left slavery and settled in Isreal no where does it ever say in the Bible those people stepped foot in Europe or mixed with them.
Then they lost Israel and wandered all over eastern and western Europe converting Europeans and intermarrying with them thus becoming a mixed race people of varied racial ethnic make up but they were Africans first.
Like you say eurocentrism whitewashed Mary and JC etc. After the crusades they brought the riches and religions and knowledge to europe later they changed things.
Remember that all religions have they're origins in Africa or the east none of the western Christian religions have they're roots in Europe. They were pagans (roman and Greek mythology it was their religion and what they believed) wiccans/witchcraft or Satan worshippers all over Europe.

In Mexico Guadalupe is black they even call her Mora or morena =Moor or decendant of moors more to the point of African decent.
In Italy the original virgin are all dark too at the least they're medium brown skinned like our lady of mount Carmel the Virgen Mary patron of Poland and Brazil are all black.
Look it up you'll find Eurocentric fair skinned renditions of Mary but they are not authentic the authentic ones are the older ones with brow bronze or black skin. Check out the discovery channel documentaries on Ancient Greece and the Greeks true origins that they weren't considered white until the 20th century. I won't even start on the African aboriginals in the Americas before Columbus and the Carib and pacific islands and how inky 10% of slaves in the Americas were from then African slave trade the rest were already here. Check YT There's some deep info there too. Search books and Internet sites its all there.

La Virgen is not Black, she's morenita which means "brown." She dressed like a Palestinian woman...and she has the color of Indians. Well, maybe some, Mexican Indians are my color. Definitely brown lol!

This is her original

 

[MyInvisibleChyrsalis]

The definition of a Black Madonna is any Virgin Mary depicted with dark or black skin, so she fits!

 

[Belle Du Jour]

I have seen some of these black Madonnas in European museums and it's always so cool to see. Black from soot my foot

 

[Guitarhero]

^^Yeah, like why isn't the rest of it Black too?