Single Christian Women's Support Thread

Hey ladies!

This week I'm feeling . . . okay. Right now I want a relationship but don't want to put up with kissing a bunch of frogs. I'm running low on patience. :lachen: Since I moved I've been attracting a lot of yougin's, from 18 (yes 18!) to 23. In their defense I look really young for 33, but I want a guy my own age!

I recently reconnected with Sean, who lives in Houston. We've been friends for over a decade. He has decided to make it his job to find me man. :grin: He called yesterday and passed his phone over to a man who wanted to speak to me. He seemed nice so we exchanged numbers. Later that day when he called I asked, "So how long have you known Sean?", and he replied, "Oh we just met today!" :wallbash: Matchmaker FAIL! Plus this guy had the audacity to call me 6 times in a row while I was on another call. Immediate turnoff!

Whew! That was some vent. What difference a few hours can make. My "crush" just called to inform me he'll be in my city this weekend, so we'll get to hang out! We've been friends for over 10 years and haven't seen each other since last fall. He's made his intentions clear, but I'm not going to get too excited . . . yet. *keeps fingers crossed*
 
This week I'm trying to wrap my head not around the promise of God to bring desire to fulfillment (or even my own ability to bring things about in my life), but rather on Jesus' words that we will have to die to our lives in order to live in Him. It's so easy to focus on what we hope God will give us or what we hope to achieve. But I have been challeneged with the question of whether I can accept that walking faithfully with the Lord could ultimately mean that I may not find that man that "gets it." That there will be more suitors who have to be passed on that other women will think are great catches. That where finding a "good man" may not be difficult, that finding a godly one might? Am I willing to keep letting them go? Will I still be able to worship Him 15 years from now as a single? 30? Such a sacrifice may not be required, but that's what it is--a sacrifice of obedience. And if as single women we can be faithful in that sacrifice, we have fellowship with Christ.

These are my thoughts exactly. I was reading a wonderful book, Sacred Singleness [by Leslie Ludy], and the author made a wonderful point about giving up the desire for a partner as a sacrifice and to fully focus on Christ. Sometimes like Abraham, we get our sacrifice back and other times like Paul we lose it all. But, Paul said he would rather us to be unmarried than married so we can be in single-hearted devotion to the Lord. He's my inspiration because he didn't care if he was single. He was so in love with the Lord.

I don't know where or even when I'm going to meet my husband. But, the Lord has let me know, it wont be any of my doing anyways. He already has it mapped out, I just have to keep my eyes on him. Rebekah was going about her own business and just decided to help someone out and she got her a husband. But, the thing about it, was God led the servant to Rebekah. Rebekah wasn't searching for a man. This is what I have to remind myself.
 
My mom told me the other day that she had a dream about me meeting a nice young man. She said she began praying for me and the Lord directed her thoughts to her dream. So I have been in a state of Thanksgiving. I don't know when he is coming or how, I just know he is coming. So in the mean time, I am just focused on school, work and deepening my relationship with Christ.
 
I hope it works out for you Foxee!!!! Keep us updated!!!

Thanks! We went out on Friday and it was nothing short of amazing! Still, I'm not going to obsess over it (you know how we ladies can be!). I will continue to pray for discernment. I got to keep my eyes open and not get so caught up in my feelings that I miss all the important details. Only time will tell . . . .
 
Thanks! We went out on Friday and it was nothing short of amazing! Still, I'm not going to obsess over it (you know how we ladies can be!). I will continue to pray for discernment. I got to keep my eyes open and not get so caught up in my feelings that I miss all the important details. Only time will tell . . . .

I'm glad things went well. Just keep praying and listening to the Lord. If it is in His will then things will progress in a positive light. *keeping my fingers crossed and my prayers with you*
 
My mom told me the other day that she had a dream about me meeting a nice young man. She said she began praying for me and the Lord directed her thoughts to her dream. So I have been in a state of Thanksgiving. I don't know when he is coming or how, I just know he is coming. So in the mean time, I am just focused on school, work and deepening my relationship with Christ.

That's awesome :)
 
I went on a date last night. It was my first time out with a man in over a year. It wasn't one of those 20 questions date so I don't know too much more about him then I did when I met him. Still not sure if he is a believer, but he seems to be good peoples if he ends up not. He was very well behaved-opened doors for me, walked me to my car, escorted me around. We hugged at the end and I called him when I got home (had to drive 1hour) to let him know I made it safe. I'm not getting hopes or expectations up. Just praying for wisdom/discernment and guarding my heart and emotions (he's everything I would want physically in a man).
 
Sigh.... I'm finally open to the idea of dating and a couple decent guys have tried to talk to me... too bad I don't like them. I forgot how difficult this whole dating process can be. Through it all, I'm keeping God first and I will wait for the person He has prepared for me.
 
I'm so tired. I can't take another person explaining to me that who I am is the reason no one wants me. In that case I will just get used to being alone and get that second cat. Yes I am older. Yes I am socially shy and akward-you've been trying to change that about me all my life. It hasn't worked yet. I'm sorry I have career goals and I am not looking for someone to take care of me. I am sorry that is a turn off for the me who are interested in "me". That is part of who I am. Forgive me for not dating men a few years younger than my father-I forgot a 30 something woman has to take what she gets. I guess I'll just stay single because no one wants me anyway and I am too picky for the few old men who would give me the time of day. Vent over.
 
I'm learning how to observe people and not rush into relationships. These two men of God are teaching me what I want/dont want. So I pray I learn what I need to.
 
So confused! I wish I had a crystal ball so I could look into my future and see who I marry, but I guess that would take the fun out of it, right?
 
So confused! I wish I had a crystal ball so I could look into my future and see who I marry, but I guess that would take the fun out of it, right?

Uh yeah!! LoL!!

Only God has the "crystal" ball. Being Alpha & Omega is quite a feat. If I could just have a tad bit of that for me or even some one close to me would be great.

Keep praying my sista!!
 
Uh yeah!! LoL!!

Only God has the "crystal" ball. Being Alpha & Omega is quite a feat. If I could just have a tad bit of that for me or even some one close to me would be great.

Keep praying my sista!!

Thanks sis! I'll definitely stay in prayer. Can't wait for my breakthrough!
 
This week I'm trying to wrap my head not around the promise of God to bring desire to fulfillment (or even my own ability to bring things about in my life), but rather on Jesus' words that we will have to die to our lives in order to live in Him. It's so easy to focus on what we hope God will give us or what we hope to achieve. But I have been challeneged with the question of whether I can accept that walking faithfully with the Lord could ultimately mean that I may not find that man that "gets it." That there will be more suitors who have to be passed on that other women will think are great catches. That where finding a "good man" may not be difficult, that finding a godly one might? Am I willing to keep letting them go? Will I still be able to worship Him 15 years from now as a single? 30? Such a sacrifice may not be required, but that's what it is--a sacrifice of obedience. And if as single women we can be faithful in that sacrifice, we have fellowship with Christ.


These are my thoughts exactly. I was reading a wonderful book, Sacred Singleness [by Leslie Ludy], and the author made a wonderful point about giving up the desire for a partner as a sacrifice and to fully focus on Christ. Sometimes like Abraham, we get our sacrifice back and other times like Paul we lose it all. But, Paul said he would rather us to be unmarried than married so we can be in single-hearted devotion to the Lord. He's my inspiration because he didn't care if he was single. He was so in love with the Lord.

I don't know where or even when I'm going to meet my husband. But, the Lord has let me know, it wont be any of my doing anyways. He already has it mapped out, I just have to keep my eyes on him. Rebekah was going about her own business and just decided to help someone out and she got her a husband. But, the thing about it, was God led the servant to Rebekah. Rebekah wasn't searching for a man. This is what I have to remind myself.

Sarophina nicola.kirwan These are thought provoking replies and I understand where you're coming from, but how does one reconcile hope and faith for a mate with these thoughts? Consistent faith in God's sovereignty and willingness to fulfill my desires in various areas of my life is something I struggle with; so when I get tempted to forsake my desire for a mate out of weariness I know that is sin (for me). So many times in scripture we are commanded to ask and believe without doubting, to expect our God given desires to be met... Personally I have felt the need to stir up my faith about God's sovereignty and absolute power and goodness.

The idea of sacrificing our desires is interesting - Paul did not say we need to strive to be like him in the area of singleness but having a heart that puts loving God above all else is the truly the mark of the high calling and Sarophina, your post moves me to simplify my heart's cry around that calling :)

As far as accepting that in order to go to greater heights in God I may have to accept that there will never be a man who fully matches me, I've considered this in the past but now believe it's not my place to presume this, as I believe God wants us to take life one day at a time and not to worry about tomorrow or get into a place where we're reasoning away His sovereignty through our natural minds - that's why we're told not to lean on our own understanding as the natural mind is not sufficient to understand spiritual things.
 
@Raspberry: I think this is something that everyone kinda has to sort through themselves, and the last thing I would want to do is to discourage another woman in her hope for a mate. So what I write, I write only as reflective of where I am today and not necessarily where I'll be tomorrow, or where I think other people should be.

That said, with the quote you mentioned, where my head is today about God's promises is that a promise is a specific spoken word that God is going to do something particular; and we can have faith that He will do it because He has said that it will be. There are lots of things that God specifically promises believers that we know for a fact will come to pass--like a resurrected body. But there are other things that He hasn't specifically promised, but we take to Him as our good Father, asking that He would grant us this thing if He is willing. Jesus never told anyone "no" when they asked Him for something, but we also know lots of people with handicaps, illnesses, etc. who have not received their requests from the Lord. He has allowed them to remain as they are even though they pray. Essentially, He's allowed them to be subject to the fallenness of this world.

With respect to singleness, I think that many Christian women, myself included, are simply experiencing the fallenness of this world. Once, a missionary to an obscure Eastern European country came to speak at my church, and he pointed out that in the midst of this great spiritual revival and spreading of the Gospel, many of the young women remained single. And he said this was the case because more of them had embraced the Gospel than men and so there weren't suitable mates for them. He characterized their singleness as a result of obedience and faithfulness to Christ. And thus they were not discouraged by their situation, but took comfort in the fact that their burden was the result of walking faithfully with God.

I know that there are a lot of women in our society, black women in particular, who feel like it's ultra-difficult to meet a good man or be pursued by a good man, godly or not. Honestly, this has not been my issue. My problem has been continually having to break off burgeoning relationships with "good black men" because they are not godly. For that reason, to keep myself from either compromising my faith by entertaining these relationships or becoming bitter and confused as to why things have not manifested for me, I meditate on sacrificial obedience to Christ; that's what my singleness is right now, as were I to choose to do things my own way (by not holding to Christ's standards), I think my state in life would be otherwise. I can't know that for certain of course, but it's true as far as I can tell. So I have to continually take myself back to Jesus' words that whoever wishes to follow Him must first deny herself and take up her cross. [not to imply that I do this successfully, btw. I rarely manage to have the right attitude.] However, singleness may mean something entirely different for another woman.

I don't presume to know what will happen in the future, though I really don't expect that I will end up permanently single. But thinking about the possibility that I could end up that way for me isn't about giving up the desire for marriage so much as it's about subordinating it to my call to live faithfully and joyfully regardless of what state I am in. I know that the Lord has heard my prayers, know that He knows me, and know that if He desires that something come to pass, it will be. But I can't mentally and emotionally handle the constant looking and wondering that pouring energy into the husband question produces in me. And the quoted passage was my way of handling it.
 
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Oh, and also, I do think that we can be overly spiritual about things sometimes in addressing what may be a practical problem. @Bunny77 has continually advocated for a more proactive approach to things, recognizing that in our current society, there a specific forces that have to be fought against, and if we just go with the flow, we'll just end up wherever the culture dumps us. John Townsend and Henry Cloud in How to Get a Date Worth Keeping also take a very practical approach that people my find intense, but I think it works well.

I'm not at the point in my life that I can make finding a mate an intentional priority that I go out of my way for. (and intentionality is what I think it will take for a lot of Christian women, since most men that we meet during the normal course of life will likely not be suitable.) But, Lord willing, I will be at that place in a few years, and when it is the right time, if there are no prospects on the horizon, I will not spiritualize it, but rather go at it practically with the approach of solving a problem. I'd probably start telling every happily married woman I know to be on the lookout for me, I'd do the online thing, I'd be sure I was meeting eligible Christian men throughout the week. If I didn't know where, I'd figure it out somehow. Were I at that point, getting married would sort of be like a puzzle I had to solve. There aren't ever guarantees, but I don't know that "waiting" per se is the goal. Patience may be a better word.

So, what I wrote was just for where I am in my life right now, and I'd encourage women who do feel it is time for them to get married but aren't having much luck to check out Candace Water's Getting Serious About Getting Married. Debbie Maken also has an interesting story and pov. And also, there's that Cloud & Townsend book which I thought was really helpful for shifting mental gears about relationships from passive to active.

Again, there aren't ever guarantees in life, but perhaps we are tempted to resort to "releasing it to the Lord" before we have exhausted all our efforts and options.
 
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Helllo Ladies!!!:hiya2: i'll be subscribing to this thread....but I just wanted to post that I got baptized last weekend and I feel :yay: inside.....I broke up with the ex on my birthday 2 mths prior and this past wknd i deleted alot of phone numbers...Things are the same but then nothing is the same.....

Been to alot of weddings this summer and alot more people are getting engaged but I'm happy knowing that I on the right path and I have many more blessings on its way. Please stay encouraged ladies and lets continue to support each other on this journey

Many of us will be tempted and go through trials while dating but lets keep each other in prayer and let God have his will and his way!!

My theme quote while single/dating will be from Maya Angelou (i think its her quote)- "A womans heart should be so hidden in Christ, that a man will have to seek HIM first, in order to find her."
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Hey Ladies!!

How are you all doing?

Me I'm just chilling. There was no second date and seeing that he just had back surgery there won't be one for quite a while. I was going to tell him we could be friends. Unfortunately he is not a believer from what I can gather from our conversations.

One of my sistah in Christ got engaged and I couldn't be happier for her. I remember telling her to be patient he is finding the right time and that time was yesterday. The ring is beautiful. They are a lovely example of Christian Love and they have been a blessing to me.

Another sistah in Christ is getting married in October but I have serious reservations about this union. I am in serious prayer and fasting in how the Lord would have me address the situation. The wedding is less than a month away and in Jamaica. All of it has transpired in 3months and I'm praying that the Lord would clarify things for me.

On another note....Question- What do you think about having a man over your house or to his house for a date?
 
I'm doing well! I've stopped listening to well meaning people in my life filing my head with nonsense. Last week was the first weekend in a month that I stayed home. Otherwise I'm sticking to my personal challenge of going out every weekend. I also make sure I'm presentable every time I leave the house - no bumming it! :)

I still have a crush on my friend that I went out with about a month ago. He's out of the country on business but hopefully we'll get to see each other again soon.
 
Hey Ladies!!

How are you all doing?

Me I'm just chilling. There was no second date and seeing that he just had back surgery there won't be one for quite a while. I was going to tell him we could be friends. Unfortunately he is not a believer from what I can gather from our conversations.

One of my sistah in Christ got engaged and I couldn't be happier for her. I remember telling her to be patient he is finding the right time and that time was yesterday. The ring is beautiful. They are a lovely example of Christian Love and they have been a blessing to me.

Another sistah in Christ is getting married in October but I have serious reservations about this union. I am in serious prayer and fasting in how the Lord would have me address the situation. The wedding is less than a month away and in Jamaica. All of it has transpired in 3months and I'm praying that the Lord would clarify things for me.

On another note....Question- What do you think about having a man over your house or to his house for a date?

Before I was saved i would yes a house date is fine...now that i'm saved and wiser from my experiences I say no cause I know me- I am way too new to this path for me to test the waters....unless its like a group date and he doesnt try to help you clean up and its just ya'll two alone type of thing I would see where his mind and his spirit is at first......i pray that God gives you the answer my dear....right now i'm waiting to be courted and God knows this so it'll happen for me in due time
 
I think I was being flirted with today while out at IHOP.I def wouldn't have been able to talk to the young man since he wasn't my cup of tea but he surely gave me his attention.I think that I have now gotten real good in being me..Im feeling myself in a great way and my attitude is what it is..I only like the dudes that are witty and can think on their feet..are smooth and go after what they want in a professional way..maybe one day a guy will not see me as a beast but just a little fatty challenge..
 
Before I was saved i would yes a house date is fine...now that i'm saved and wiser from my experiences I say no cause I know me- I am way too new to this path for me to test the waters....unless its like a group date and he doesnt try to help you clean up and its just ya'll two alone type of thing I would see where his mind and his spirit is at first......i pray that God gives you the answer my dear....right now i'm waiting to be courted and God knows this so it'll happen for me in due time

Thank you StephLuv. I was asking because I live by myself. Most of my friends live in the city. I definitely don't want to test the waters but dating is expensive (driving, eating, doing something constructive). I enjoy watching movies and have an extensive DVD library. I've been asked to go by a man's house (who lived with his parents) to watch movies and chill. I didn't do it for many reasons mainly I wasn't trying to meet his parents. I just find it all confusing because I'm not a dater and this whole Christian dating/courting thing seems very confusing.

I too am waiting on the Lord to send me the man he has for me.
 
Hey Ladies.

So I am done with the adventures in dating. I've learned some really important things from the experience. I think part of the reason I tried the dating thing is because a lot of my friends are either engaged, in courtships, or dating and I'm the oldest with no prospects on the horizon.

1. I found that I want a Jesus Freak. Someone who is more than a professing Christian, but a man who lives and breathes the Scriptures. If Jesus is not central to your life then there is no way you can lead me.

2. I have some issues I need to let the Father heal me of. Some of these issues were keeping me from even dabbling in the dating scene (I was on a "I hate all men" kick for a year). Some of the issues I never really confessed and prayed for healing from. But if I want to get married I definitely need to work some things out.

3. It will happen in God's time and no other way. I wasn't actively pursuing men but I was making myself more available. I haven't heard a loud NO! about internet dating but with the few experiences I've had I don't think its the way for me. And it's easy to push your own agenda even when you try not to. That heart is so wicked it will fool yourself. I can't let age dictate when I should marry.

4. Accountability is so important. If I wasn't staying accountable to people (letting them know about dates, or men I've encountered) it would have been so easy for me to fall into sin (inappropriate convo, loose boundaries, etc) merely out of loneliness. Having good solid believers who love you and have your best interest at heart has been a God send indeed.

5. Jesus has to be my husband before any man can be. Funny thing is the adventures in dating actually had me seeking the Lord more and praying for decisions about things. I felt I needed to be grounded in the Word and with Jesus to keep a right perspective and not get caught up with the infatuation of being in a relationship and marriage.

Right now I'm trying to find contentment again in Jesus alone. It's hard to do this when so many outside influences (family, friends, myself, biology, media) are stressing marriage. I know who I serve so at the end of the day I know He has my best interests at heart and my happiness and satisfaction is in Him and Him alone.
 
Hey Ladies.

So I am done with the adventures in dating. I've learned some really important things from the experience. I think part of the reason I tried the dating thing is because a lot of my friends are either engaged, in courtships, or dating and I'm the oldest with no prospects on the horizon.

1. I found that I want a Jesus Freak. Someone who is more than a professing Christian, but a man who lives and breathes the Scriptures. If Jesus is not central to your life then there is no way you can lead me.

2. I have some issues I need to let the Father heal me of. Some of these issues were keeping me from even dabbling in the dating scene (I was on a "I hate all men" kick for a year). Some of the issues I never really confessed and prayed for healing from. But if I want to get married I definitely need to work some things out.

3. It will happen in God's time and no other way. I wasn't actively pursuing men but I was making myself more available. I haven't heard a loud NO! about internet dating but with the few experiences I've had I don't think its the way for me. And it's easy to push your own agenda even when you try not to. That heart is so wicked it will fool yourself. I can't let age dictate when I should marry.

4. Accountability is so important. If I wasn't staying accountable to people (letting them know about dates, or men I've encountered) it would have been so easy for me to fall into sin (inappropriate convo, loose boundaries, etc) merely out of loneliness. Having good solid believers who love you and have your best interest at heart has been a God send indeed.
5. Jesus has to be my husband before any man can be. Funny thing is the adventures in dating actually had me seeking the Lord more and praying for decisions about things. I felt I needed to be grounded in the Word and with Jesus to keep a right perspective and not get caught up with the infatuation of being in a relationship and marriage.

Right now I'm trying to find contentment again in Jesus alone. It's hard to do this when so many outside influences (family, friends, myself, biology, media) are stressing marriage. I know who I serve so at the end of the day I know He has my best interests at heart and my happiness and satisfaction is in Him and Him alone.

I am guilty of this one... I was really enjoying meeting different guys, but Christian dating/courting is very confusing. I am starting to feel like a guy who understands that I am really want to wait to have sex is going to be almost impossible. The men I am meeting feel as if it is very important to find out if you are sexually compatible before marriage. But anywho...... have a blessed day!
 
On another note....Question- What do you think about having a man over your house or to his house for a date?[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't do it! I don't believe in putting myself in any compromising situations. When I am courted, we will always be around others, unless we are in the public. The Spirit is willing to obey God's word, but my flesh is weak. I don't think I want to ever put myself in a situation that could lead to sin.
 
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