'marrying Down' Costs Educated Women $25k A Year

No shade to you OP but I get tired of these articles telling us how we aren't getting married, our men are incarcerated at a higher rate, not educated...bla bla bla.
but it's true

I encourage you single ladies to date and marry outside of our race. because we all know black men have a low educational attainment rate. if you don't find an educated black man why not keep it moving? you making 80K and he's making 40k blue collar. just like they say you all have competition and make you compete with the white and latina women make them compete for you all with white and Asian men who wants something in life and has an education.
 
Women get mad at me for saying it but mothers have very little dominion in this area. Boys are going to take their mating cues from their father and if he's not around they will take cues from other boys and men. I'm working on a project to help set my cousin set up with a chain of barbershops and when I tell you when I've been in the back room working on the books, the conversations these dudes have when they think no women are around would give ya'll conniptions. These are not bottom barrel dudes neither.

Yep. It isn't just single losers in these Facebook groups or on the Coli saying awful things about women...elevating other women over black women.

I know I have seen and heard too much.
 
The sad thing is it's not that many black men to choose from.

We live in a black society where black women coddle their black boys.

These men are sorry, not as ambitious, and fly by the seat of their pants instead of making a true path to success and fighting hard to get that success.

As a result I find it hard finding many men with a higher income or education than me and even when they do they have Kang behavior and think they're king of the jungle when they really ain't doing spit and could obtain even higher. They act complacent with the bare minimum of success.
DATE OTHER RACES OF MEN! Frequent their handouts. Broaden your horizons. Date online. Hang out with friends of other races. DONT LIMIT YOURSELF TO ONLY BLACK MEN.
 
I don't think you can honestly call marrying a good man who makes less money than you 'marrying down'
Less no. but when you are in 2 different worlds. he's ok with the weed smoking crowd. he doesn't do it but several he knows does and as he says everybody does it. you not so. you want nice things and went to school to ensure you get them. live on the north side. buy from whole foods and trader joes. he doesn't know what this is and still eat fat backs and has a gold tooth and rims. and usually several kids and the same number of baby mamas.


no.
 
I won't even go into the convo about the level of detail and thought they had about the desire to be with a little person (woman) without front teeth. And these are white-collar, degreed, both married and divorced men in their 30s, 40s, and 50s. I'm not saying these are bad guys, because they're not. I think my primary takeaway is that I think what men discuss without women around versus when we are around is very different than the reverse (what women talk about when men aren't around vs. what we talk about when they are).

Yes, I would agree that women should look at all their options, not really because there's something wrong with black men per se, because I see base, sketchy behavior in all men of all nationalities and ethnicity. But, you're widening the pool by starting with all straight men as your pool, instead of all straight black men. Even with that, you might likely still end up with a black man but you've been able to have more practice, better exposure and coverage.
 
Please point out where the article says that having a higher level of education should be the sole criteria for choosing a mate.

ETA: I didn't see the comment from @LiftedUp. ITA.

I'm starting to believe that some women just don't WANT to get it. That's that Tyler Perry foolishness.

Edited for typo
yeah like the lawyer who married the auto mechanic.

WTH? That's not steady income. That's not guaranteed income. There's no retirement plan in that income. There is no insurance in that income. No benefits not short term or long term benefits.

I noticed that.
that black women have to marry down in some of his movies. WTH? White women don't have to marry down. neither do Asian or latinos.

no BLACK MEN need to COME UP.

THATS the problem.
 
I think some of us are just conditioned to make excuses for black men. But for anybody who thinks this is not an issue, they should peruse male dominated sites, cause they talk about this issue all the time. Shoot, talk to your male family members or friends - most of them will tell you they don't want their woman to make more money than them.
that's usually the man who wants something.

the lazy zza men WANT to sit under another person so they can watch tv all day.
 
Isn't that the truth? Some women are quick to make excuses for BM and willing to settle for less, but give some men some $$$--including professional football and basketball players--and then see if they're
as receptive to being the breadwinner for BW.
TRUTH!!! Kobe Bryant was all in Brandy's face begging her to go to his prom with him when he was a high school nobody. got some money and married a latina girl. not some on the move latina but a video chic! yes one of the greatest players in the history of the game married some noneducated video chic!!!!

and so goes the story for many others.
think tiger woods and his 'nanny'. yes a chic with no education who bathes and play with children for a living!!!

they are NOT loyal to you all like you all are loyal to them.
when will YOU WISE UP??
 
I don't think marrying someone who makes less is a bad thing at all esp if they can potentially make more than you over a specified period of time, you want to be married, or you want to be married and have kids. I understand a woman's motives. It's just important to have a plan.
they are not talking you make 90k and they make 80k. they are talking they make 40k and blue collar. you are 80k and white collar. different worlds. different levels of ambition. usually different respects towards money.
 
I always find it funny when these threads come up. I guess it depends on what you call marrying down. Same or More education doesn't necessarily mean your partner will make less than you. Don't be afraid of a hard working blue collar man who can literally build you a home...

but by 40 be broke down body wise or on his way, worried as to how he's going to make money, with no retirement and little hopes for keeping a job because his body cant withstand the intense cold or intense heat, or his back is now aching or joints hurting or whatever. a neighbor explained that to me just last year. he's worried because what he has knowledge of doing, is manual labor and after doing it so long, it's worn down his body. he's now more tired, and things are happening and making him sick. but what else can he do? he's been doing this for the last 15 years. now that's something to bare!

on the other hand an educated man doesn't have these worries. oh his job can take a toll also but it's copable and he STILL has a job at the end of the day. 401k and can even work from the hospital if he gets sick because technology allows it for white collar workers who are working their minds and not their bodies.
 
they are not talking you make 90k and they make 80k. they are talking they make 40k and blue collar. you are 80k and white collar. different worlds. different levels of ambition. usually different respects towards money.

This is true. I was thinking of the everyday woman. Sometimes a woman's career plans stall per the reasons I cited in that post :lol:
 
Education does not always translate into higher earning power. Example, dude is assistant professor making $90K in his early 30s (got his Ph.D. a decade ago). In his 40s, after tenure, he might start grazing $200K. Woman started making $180K at 25 upon graduating from law school. She'll easily be making $200K by 28. Should she turn this dude down even though he makes half of her income?

I went to this panel about work life balance once. This woman who is a senior attorney at a law firm said she had her kid, wanted to spend time with him, but HAD to go back to work because it would not have been financially possible. She also said that her DH was a Biglaw attorney. I sat there scratching my head...That couple likely pulls in close to $500K combined. I don't care how much debt you have: that woman is not winning in *my* eyes.
If I as a woman I can't decide to chill while my DH goes out and provides for me and my family, then something is wrong.

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no she should date him. the issue is being in different worlds. both are well educated. making good money. he also has potential and will eventually get their. at almost 6 figures, he's making what many women want and want their men to make. I think this is a good example of taking the advice literally. yeah he makes less than her but it doesn't matter here.

as for the 2 attorneys who are educated but still in major debt and not winning, you dam right they aren't. this is not about the educated this is about 2 people out living their means which can happen to anyone at any level of the economic heap. making almost a half of a million dollars and having to work from pay check to pay check is plain stupid.
 
DATE OTHER RACES OF MEN! Frequent their handouts. Broaden your horizons. Date online. Hang out with friends of other races. DONT LIMIT YOURSELF TO ONLY BLACK MEN.
Here's the thing about dating other races of men. Everybody just can't do it. Not because of bw being too much or too little of anything, but because some women have either a mental or physical block that prevents them from crossing that particular line and that has to be respected.
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I have noticed that there's an element of bw who will go into IR dating with the expectation that they are going to find a ready made woke non black partner. Unless you are dealing with a non black man who has dated black women exclusively who have already broken him in like the comfortable pair of shoes you want him to be, wokeness is an uphill battle. That **** is going to take yearS. These chicks usually hop back to the black side and go full hotep preaching how polygyny ain't all that bad. I be looking at my facebook feed like o_O:confused: "but last week wasn't you sayin...."
 
They're in a long term relationship. But they're older(50's) so marriage and children isn't on their radar.

I think she stays because like I said, he's a very nice guy and she loves him. But he has reached his peak earning potential and that frustrates her because it limits what they can do. Even if they ever do break up, men her age in the same income bracket are only interested in younger women.
she need to increase her age range. up.
 
This reminds me of that thread about the lady that made over $200K as a doctor while her man made $40K with no drive or something close to that amount and how she paid all the bills. A lot of hoteps were like but maybe she truly loves him or what about love...what about it? o_O
straight crazy!
 
Here's the thing about dating other races of men. Everybody just can't do it. Not because of bw being too much or too little of anything, but because some women have either a mental or physical block that prevents them from crossing that particular line and that has to be respected.
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I have noticed that there's an element of bw who will go into IR dating with the expectation that they are going to find a ready made woke non black partner. Unless you are dealing with a non black man who has dated black women exclusively who have already broken him in like the comfortable pair of shoes you want him to be, wokeness is an uphill battle. That **** is going to take yearS. These chicks usually hop back to the black side and go full hotep preaching how polygyny ain't all that bad. I be looking at my facebook feed like o_O:confused: "but last week wasn't you sayin...."
I understand that but you need to have the mentality that you will kiss frogs before you find that good one. same as before. you just have a bigger pool and not as limited. also you don't have to have 1000000 men who want black women.

just one.
that wants you.
 
For women who are the breadwinners, they take maternity leave and go back to work in 6 - 12 weeks depending on company policy.
They pump and/or freeze the milk for use throughout the day/week while their husband/nanny stays home with the kids. If need be, pump and Fedex the breast milk.
I have friends with stay at home husbands (educated guys) and kids. One husband went back to work a couple of years ago.

*** that.
 
Some of y'all living in fairy tale land. He can say he wants to start a business or has these big dreams all day. But most don't have a plan the first. Andwithout a plan he is just A loser like Lawrence from that show Insecure. Fallacies and Lies. Smoke and Dust.
when I used to hear that played out chit, I would automatically cancel him out.
 
Here's the thing about dating other races of men. Everybody just can't do it. Not because of bw being too much or too little of anything, but because some women have either a mental or physical block that prevents them from crossing that particular line and that has to be respected.
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I have noticed that there's an element of bw who will go into IR dating with the expectation that they are going to find a ready made woke non black partner. Unless you are dealing with a non black man who has dated black women exclusively who have already broken him in like the comfortable pair of shoes you want him to be, wokeness is an uphill battle. That **** is going to take yearS. These chicks usually hop back to the black side and go full hotep preaching how polygyny ain't all that bad. I be looking at my facebook feed like o_O:confused: "but last week wasn't you sayin...."
I don't know now anything about polygyny but I do know what you mean by a mental block...I can't wrap my mind around it.
 
but by 40 be broke down body wise or on his way, worried as to how he's going to make money, with no retirement and little hopes for keeping a job because his body cant withstand the intense cold or intense heat, or his back is now aching or joints hurting or whatever. a neighbor explained that to me just last year. he's worried because what he has knowledge of doing, is manual labor and after doing it so long, it's worn down his body. he's now more tired, and things are happening and making him sick. but what else can he do? he's been doing this for the last 15 years. now that's something to bare!

on the other hand an educated man doesn't have these worries. oh his job can take a toll also but it's copable and he STILL has a job at the end of the day. 401k and can even work from the hospital if he gets sick because technology allows it for white collar workers who are working their minds and not their bodies.


By 40 broke down body? Where are you getting this from? Your 1 neighbor ? Anything can happen to anyone at any given moment. This is where insurance comes to play. What makes you think a blue collar man is not educated and doesn't have a 401k? Most "blue" collar workers I know have businesses and have done very well.

My is Point is date whom you want to date but these type of articles make black women think that if he doesn't have these check list type of things they will not find happiness or end up broke. I'm not saying fix up a man or date someone with 2-5 kids etc.. Date/marry someone who has the same goals as yourself and means to get there.
 
I don't know now anything about polygyny but I do know what you mean by a mental block...I can't wrap my mind around it.
That's not by accident. Girls are tethered to a shorter cultural leash than boys. I've been hearing first and second hand black men freely saying they would f a white girl but not marry one since I was a kid, but I had never heard a black woman utter such a thing growing up. My brain breaks even trying to imagine my mothers friends saying anything like that and these were not women who shied away from talking about sex when the gin got to flowing.
 
I don't know now anything about polygyny but I do know what you mean by a mental block...I can't wrap my mind around it.

There was a thread here or subset of one that transitioned into black women signing up for polyamory because there aren't enough "good black men" to go around. Lots of hotep dudes talk that mess too. They are assuming most bw are sharing men and should just do so openly. My cousin says this ALL the time....hes not nearly as good as he thinks he is.

Women are called selfIsh or short sighted for not buying into it. :rolleyes:
 
That's not by accident. Girls are tethered to a shorter cultural leash than boys. I've been hearing first and second hand black men freely saying they would f a white girl but not marry one since I was a kid, but I had never heard a black woman utter such a thing growing up. My brain breaks even trying to imagine my mothers friends saying anything like that and these were not women who shied away from talking about sex when the gin got to flowing.
That has less to do with a cultural leash and more to do with pop culture portrayals of the whites women and white men's sexuality. Why would black women cira 70-80 talk about sexing white men when the stereotype is that EVERYONE what's to sec black men because they are the sexiest, have the biggest dacks, can sex the longest, etc. Even white men perpetuate this stereotype about themselves: little penis, no stroke, and scared a big black buck is coming to take their woman.

Same with white women...their sexual PR has long been very positive so I can see why men of all races try to see if the true.
 
There was a thread here or subset of one that transitioned into black women signing up for polyamory because there aren't enough "good black men" to go around. Lots of hotep dudes talk that mess too. They are assuming most bw are sharing men and should just do so openly. My cousin says this ALL the time....hes not nearly as good as he thinks he is.

Women are called selfIsh or short sighted for not buying into it. :rolleyes:
Oh heck no...
 
That's not by accident. Girls are tethered to a shorter cultural leash than boys. I've been hearing first and second hand black men freely saying they would f a white girl but not marry one since I was a kid, but I had never heard a black woman utter such a thing growing up. My brain breaks even trying to imagine my mothers friends saying anything like that and these were not women who shied away from talking about sex when the gin got to flowing.
??? This was my general rule. Is that unusual? :look:
 
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