CarLiTa is the non-planning thing something you can deal with on a long term basis? I remember one of the things you liked about you last relationship was the detailed Excel based planning.
I'm dealing with something similar and wondering if it would drive me crazy when married.
SweetNic_JA, girl, I don't know yet... So many of the guys I am meeting seem to revel in not planning anything... they call it "being spontaneous" and they take on that label with pride, like
"me: man. spontaneous." And I'm feeling like oh yeah?
Ugh.
My ex and I and all our planning... well, it took a lot for us to get there
He used to call me a regulator... I'd refuse to do lots of things because I thought they were all "too soon."
Basically, I just wasn't jumping through hoops, because that's just not my style (not even games or rules or whatever, I just don't do that...), and maybe that confused him because he's been more or less conditioned to experience that from women he's dated.
I think it's the same situation with this guy. Roommate and I were just talking about him. She knows him better than I do. I was telling her I was a little turned off by my conversation with him today... that I can't really GET AT what he's thinking. Does he:
a) think that his life is so great that I or anyone would want to go with HIS activities once he proposes them?
b) think that because we are dating, my schedule is automatically open to spend time with him?
c) NOT UNDERSTAND that I've got friendships that I cherish, people I want to spend time with, including myself??
To all of these:
The oddest thing in all this is that he doesn't deliver these words with a self-important air. But the stuff that comes out of his mouth has me like: "Um?
come again?"
Roommate suggested that this could be because he has dated YT
look
girls in the past... He's African, btw. Roommate is also African. She says she sees it with her male cousins, how these girls are jumping through hoops, and that's what he's come to associate with "interest." This guy has spoken very fondly of this past relationships (I think that's a good thing. I'm side-eying anyone who talks about how batsh!t crazy his exes were
)... but even in his descriptions it sounds like these women were overly... available. Like, he'd have all these whims (part of his awesome life
), and they'd be on-board, ticket in hand for all these travels
Yeah, as fun as this all sounds, I don't roll like that. I've got a life-- and it doesn't mean that I'm jet-setting every weekend, but... I've got a life, I've got friends, personal commitments, etc., and I more or less try to uphold them (when I don't flake out
)
Roommate thinks he probably thinks I'm playing hard-to-get
... but these aren't games. But she said he sounded smitten the last time she spoke to him about me, which was at the end of our last date this weekend. So, I'm confused.
I don't get why he's harping so much about my desire to know details... I think he thinks it translates into being a wet blanket who doesn't have fun
. I'm only asking for some logistics... INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT logistics given the stage of our "courtship"
rolleyes
cause, like, where am 'gon' sleep if we go on a trip together?
cause, you can't touch me, bro. and what will it mean if I go with you?
This is all non-consequential if we are just friends and we have other company with us (roommate has gone on trips with him before, as part of a group). I can do that too, but like, I don't know you enough to open my schedule up like that. In fact, I have no inclination to!
Ok, so this was more a vent/journal entry
Is this something I can live with long-term? At his stage, girl, I don't know. I know that as soon as I decide that he's pretentious, I will be done with him and will stop accepting dates. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt
and wait longer.
I'm not looking for a rigid planner... and I don't mind handling caring more about the logistical stuff. But I need someone who will engage in conversation with me, who will partake in the planning with me, even if I am carrying the heavy weight, and who will not scoff at the planning. **All of this conditional on whether we are already in a relationship. Not before.
***In addition, I will not plan EVERYTHING. I need someone who will be romantic enough to surprise me sometimes, and that requires planning. I'm not creative nor romantic, and I want a man who is