FelaShrine
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Cute thread.
I don't think women should play games with men or 'stroke their ego' to be manipulative
I don't think women should play games with men or 'stroke their ego' to be manipulative
So basically both boys and girls do well with praise and recognition. And I think it's really powerful when it comes from both parents. How many boys would beam if they got genuine recognition and praise from their fathers? Same with daughters and mothers.
To me it just boils down to openly appreciating each other
I have always said and will continue to say that the father is determinant of who the daughter pics in life as a partner and the mother does the same for a son. My dad and grandfather taught me what I needed to choose in a man.
Here's another that just happened. So DH had been planning to attend a real important meeting. We've been going over the key points to discuss and I offered my suggestions and expectations. So he calls me on the way back from his meeting all excited. So I ask him how did the meeting go. He says it went great and proceeds to tell me the details. Which revealed that he really did not go about it how I would have gone about it as we previously discussed which I feel would have yielded better results but he still got results non the less. So instead of hammering on all that, I say to him "wow honey that's awesome! Sounds like you handled that meeting like a boss, I'm so proud of you". He's all feeling big and mighty and asks me if I need him to grab anything for me while he's out. Lol
I wish more men taught their sons how to be good men though.
This is a great thread. I have been "independent" for a long time. As I'm reading, especially Lucie's comments, I am realizing why I'm probably still single. I have not shown a man that I needed or valued him.
Lucie.....When I get in a relationship, I will be PMing you......You have mad skills!
This is my issue as well. I always thought it had to do with my home life, my mother was independent (by force) and it just carried over to me.
My "ugly" friend I mentioned, practices stroking the male ego. She says she doesn't want to forget on how to do it. Plus it's good practice for whenever she meets a quality guy, she will already KNOW how to do these things.
Now that I'm 36, I find that I want nothing more than to be in my womanly role. So I'm taking notes in this thread and in the "Loving" thread.
Do you think they don't know a game is afoot or do they know and don't care because their ego needs are being met?
Thanks for this thread. I have been a nut crusher for so long. Despite this my DH loves me. I would like to be a kinder, more loving person. Only because i think he deserves better and i notice our relatioonship flourishes when i am a nicer person. I like this thread
I like the thread and do think men respond to it.
But I wonder to what degree men respond it is because this is the way we praise and recognize them from birth? And why not do it with our girls?
I am still on the first page of this thread and I'm struggling already. I feel myself getting upset (I can't think of a better word) which is causing me concern.
Evsbaby's post describes me pretty well.
When I'm nice, DH gets confused and doesn't know how to respond. Poor baby.
I'll keep reading.
This is a great thread. I have been "independent" for a long time. As I'm reading, especially Lucie's comments, I am realizing why I'm probably still single. I have not shown a man that I needed or valued him.
I don't think women should play games with men or 'stroke their ego' to be manipulative-I think for a deserving man it should just be a habit and we should want to. They give back 1000% because they feel respected and appreciated in a positive way and want to do more. I don't think they notice unless you haven't been doing those things all along. If you just come out of the bag doing it, they would think you weren't being sincere perhaps or if you weren't consistently doing these things.
Men are much more insecure than women and it's like positive feedback promotes more positive results. That's why nagging gets the opposite result
Zaynab
I've noticed there are a number of women that do this unknowingly. They conflate niceness with insecurity creating a manipulative nature. I think most women do this, however, some more often and more intensely than others. There's also a theme to the relationships too. These women are often easily disposable to men. Good at attracting quantity over quality or unable to hold on to quality for very long. They attract men like bees to honey, and run through them just as much. For women in this category, their children often have multiple diff fathers, seem to be prone to abusive relationships or have been married/divorced or in 50-11 long term relatioships. Unfortunately, the end result is most often sad than not. I can think of a couple folks with mothers like this, they were married a bunch of times but when they were finally old for some reason they were single or alone. It's crazy and sorta unexpected to everyone else, esp with them having life track records of man after man. Liz Taylor is a good celeb example of this.
There is a fine line to balance with ego stroking. Some women do it too much and eventually read as fake/disingenuous/shallow and others don't do it enough which equates *****.
This is one of the few things I am not good at.
You know, my mom is such a dynamo when it comes to stuff like this. And no, it really depends on the man whether or not it works. Like she had a man helping her out in the grocery store choosing a better brand of butter . He was smiling and waving goodbye to her when I walked back to our cart. I had left her for 5 minutes and here she got this man talking to her randomly in the dairy aisle.
Anyway, what I love the most about her is that she's incredibly warm and she actually is genuinely interested in you and your opinion. Not just with men, but women too. She has so many random friends everywhere. She's a people person and I get that from her. I think you have to LIKE people and see the good in them versus trying to get an end result out of them.
Is your mom Aquarius cos that sounds like mine random "friends" all over the damn place. She;s one of those rare happy nurses.
I agree with bolded however yea..
I need to learn how to do this..I am very self sufficient and get irritated by women that act helpless. My only issue is I feel uncomfortable getting help from men cause I end up feeling like I owe them something for helping me.
You know, my mom is such a dynamo when it comes to stuff like this. And no, it really depends on the man whether or not it works. Like she had a man helping her out in the grocery store choosing a better brand of butter . He was smiling and waving goodbye to her when I walked back to our cart. I had left her for 5 minutes and here she got this man talking to her randomly in the dairy aisle.
Anyway, what I love the most about her is that she's incredibly warm and she actually is genuinely interested in you and your opinion. Not just with men, but women too. She has so many random friends everywhere. She's a people person and I get that from her. I think you have to LIKE people and see the good in them versus trying to get an end result out of them.
I need to learn how to do this..I am very self sufficient and get irritated by women that act helpless. My only issue is I feel uncomfortable getting help from men cause I end up feeling like I owe them something for helping me.
Yes! My dh is typically impervious to ego stroking but this does it every time. He embarrassed me so bad one night at an event but I kept smiling because I knew it made him feel good. (Long story short, he was on the microphone, pointed me out, and said he just wanted it to be known that I'm his wife so don't try anything).
I've come to accept that I'm arm candy sometimes so I play my position and ALWAYS look good when I'm with him.
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