My man said something so hurtful

he fxied his mouth to say some ish like this--i dont think its his first time

i think this is a clearrrrrr and coherent red flaggggggggggg for you to move on--he is just not into you

struggling actor azzz--he betta go the *** on with his nasty azzzzzzz attitude......
 
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*hugs* to you OP. you're taking this all very well, and from the way your posts sound, you've already made the decision to move on. and you will be a stronger woman for it. i went through a very similar situation not too long ago, and it took a boneheaded comment from my guy for me to realize that i need to stop giving my all to someone who could care less about me. as other posters have said, now is the time to focus on YOU. pamper yourself! have fun with your friends! go out and be YOU! and before you know it, someone will sweep you off your feet who is actually worthy of your presence. :yep:
 
5 years after his divorce. I was his first girlfriend after their split. He'd dealt with many a woman sexually and otherwise but was not in a relationship with any of them.

Okay... at least you weren't a rebound. I was thinking that could be a part of his behavior.

Basically, it just sounds like what everyone else has already said.

I wish you the best with your decision. :yep:
 
Hey Ladies,

I'm known to be a bit of a DRAMA QUEEN:rolleyes:

So I just want to make sure I am not overreacting here. My man is a struggling actor. He is on the grind a LOT trying to make it happen and the weekends are usually our time together. I mean we see each other a bit during the week and we talk everyday but usually on Friday,Saturday and Sunday we are together. So, this friday I called him up because it was a bit late as far as the time we usually get together. He informed me that he had work to do and couldnt see me tonight. I admit I got angry and we started to argue then I said "how can you be okay with not seeing me the whole week?"

His answer: "If I got work to do, I could go a whole year without seeing you and I'd be fine."

Honestly, I don't think he was trying to be vengeful. You did ask him a question that I can see him thinking as far-reaching. The way you worded the question, it's like you're expecting him to say he can't function without seeing you.

No successful, driven person is going to be swayed b/c they have to postpone visiting a significant other. It doesn't mean he doesn't like you. For example, some people would turn down a lucrative offer to stay near an SO; others wouldn't think of such. I didn't read other details, but his statement is more a reflection of his personality, not his feelings for you.
 
MissAnn, the key here is "and I'd be fine."

I wouldn't move for my SO either (for work reasons), but I would soften the blow with "I will really miss you and wish we didn't have to be apart, but I have work I have to do here."

This dude is daring her to rise to his bait--"and I'd be fine." Not cool.
 
Honestly, I don't think he was trying to be vengeful. You did ask him a question that I can see him thinking as far-reaching. The way you worded the question, it's like you're expecting him to say he can't function without seeing you.

No successful, driven person is going to be swayed b/c they have to postpone visiting a significant other. It doesn't mean he doesn't like you. For example, some people would turn down a lucrative offer to stay near an SO; others wouldn't think of such. I didn't read other details, but his statement is more a reflection of his personality, not his feelings for you.

Interesting theory missann. I must say i don't want anyone who can't function without seeing me that's hitting on obsession. What I would have liked to hear after that question is something as simple as, "Believe me, I want to see you too baby, I've been missing you this week, but you know I just gotta get this work in...."

Something of that nature. That is still saying I'm going to get my work in but not belittling me or making it seem that he could care LESS about me. I am a busy busy bee when it comes to my career, so on that level we matched. I wasnt trying to take up all of his time because I was busy grinding away as well. But, I would NEVER say to someone I loved that "If I had work to do, I could go a YEAR without seeing you and be fine." That's just crazy.
 
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MissAnn, the key here is "and I'd be fine."

I wouldn't move for my SO either (for work reasons), but I would soften the blow with "I will really miss you and wish we didn't have to be apart, but I have work I have to do here."

This dude is daring her to rise to his bait--"and I'd be fine." Not cool.

Right:yep:
 
MissAnn, the key here is "and I'd be fine."

I wouldn't move for my SO either (for work reasons), but I would soften the blow with "I will really miss you and wish we didn't have to be apart, but I have work I have to do here."

This dude is daring her to rise to his bait--"and I'd be fine." Not cool.

I understand that part. He was probably more direct than she'd like.

I'm just saying she did ask "how can you be OK....?"

His "I'd be fine" reply is simply an honest answer i.e., "yes I'd be OK" vs something like "no, I'd be pitiful and downtrodden....".

If someone asked me that, I'd probably say "um, yes, I'd be OK...what else would I be?" :look:
 
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I highly value spending quality time with my SO. If he said something like that to me, I would let him know that it really upset me and would ask him if he meant it. If he had the nerve to say he did then I would be gone!

That was an extremely hurtful comment! :nono: Even if he actually thought that, he should never have said it.
 
After 3 and a half years, he has no time for you on the weekdays? People usually know after a year if things are meant to be. At this point you need to decide if what you have now is worth making a lifetime committment. If not, you need to make a swift exit. Don't waste ur time.
 
Normally he is a good man. I mean, he has a good heart and is an honest man. In the past we have argued a LOT. After our last breakup we got back together and agreed to change the things the other had problems with in the relationship. My problems with him were: Not emotional enough, he had a hard time showing his feelings. He says he just doesnt like the lovey dovey stuff. For example, he didnt grab my hand in public much or kiss in public. He says he has a problem with public affection. As well, he would just act as if he didnt really care about me. Like, I could be there or not be there and it wouldnt bother him. When I am angry with him over something, he just doesnt seem to care at all.
So as far as I can tell
1. he said a hurtful statement to you in the midst of an argument and at a time when he is stressed, maybe struggling with money/fears of failure
2. you feel he is cold and unemotional because he does not kiss and hold hands in public.
Unless there is more going on and only you know the real answer to that it sounds like a storm in a teacup.
People are different. Some men (and women) are not into public displays of affection. If he isn't let him be, as long as in private he shows you he really cares and is into you. Don't force him to adopt habits just to please you especially if those habits are ultimately meaningless. So what if some couples don't do PDA? Does that make them less in love, less worthy than those who do?
Again, couples argue, sometimes they say hurtful stuff. It may mean little or it may mean they need to communicate more to bring out in the open what is obviously simmering beneath the surface. Again this is not enough to end a 3 year relationship unless there is more to it.

If the man is stressed and tired the last thing he needs is his woman on the phone nagging him to call/visit etc. Maybe he doesn't want to. Just because what he wants is different from what you want, why should your way be the right one? Why must he fall in with man-made rules of what a "loving" relationship should be - "must hold hands in starbucks/the mall, must see each other daily/every weekend/must speak on the phone daily, etc. I say let him be. Let him be free. If you love him, he knows you're there for him. You get on with your life and support him as he should support you. If he needs time alone, GIVE IT TO HIM. If he loves you, he will appreciate how understanding and accepting you are and HE WILL BE THERE always. Now if that stuff (PDA, etc) is really vital to your peace of mind and he is just not that kind of guy then move along.. But to dump him for what I feel are trivial issues may not be the best move. Some men are not good at displaying emotion. There are women out there who are perfectly happy with such men, who understand and accept them. Equally there are those who would not be happy. If it's not your cup of tea then moving on might be best. 3 years (in fact, 1 year) is usually long enough for a woman to see all the facets of her mans character - if she is looking hard and well. Was he so different at the beginning or did you just "not see"? Maybe you thought you could change him..People are who they are and reveal themsleves to us, it's down to us to decide if we are going to honestly look at them ..or bury our heads in the sand.
Also it may be worth talking to a close male friend about this. No matter how experienced a woman is, men know and understand each other best. Good luck.
 
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Spritex - I agree that sometimes women need to work more with their partners when it comes to expectations for how they show love to each other. However, based on what Sunnrayy is telling us, it is likely that she will continue to be very disappointed in how her man shows love to her. I can't see telling a woman to go the extra mile and gloss over her own hurt to placate a man she's not married to for an unseen reward. Unless being with him is seen as a prize in itself...
 
Raspberry;
I certainly don't expect her to put up with an intolerable situation. I think my view was - these are not neccessarily deal-breakers. It depends on the relationship as a whole. If he is loving, kind, decent respectful etc, surely the fact that he does not kiss her in public is an area for compromise?
I think this current situation might be the final straw in a failing relationship. When it's over even trivial stuff gets you down! If thats the case then she knows what to do.
 
FYI LADIES: He actually called me tonight before I left for the party and said. "Hey I was just thinking about you strongly and wanted to say hi" and that was it. I guess he expected me to do my normal and say:"That's it? That's what you called for?" and then I normally have to pull out an apology. I just said "ok." He said, "Ok." and I said "Goodbye."

I think you need to get clear,on what you want or do not want as the phone convo
indicates you are not sure...

If you are truly moving on ....then you must do the same thing with his phone calls as you did with
his arrogant texting abt HIS EVENT.....do not accept or respond ....

if he really went too far as you texted..let that good bye on the phone be a true goodbye...get closure if you need it!
BUT with a good friend talking it through..support with chuch sisters etc
etc

but do not process it through
with him

{..and I know you miss him of course..how you can you not?}

But answering his calls
speaking to him
responding without setting boundaries
listening to him
etc

is only going make it unclear that what he did was unnaceptable
...it's not enough to play co-passive aggressive and give the
aloof treatment on the phone..it is sending mixed messages to both of you
that you are...........

still accessible to him
still willing to communicate
still his woman because you have
not followed through yet on breaking with him
ergo still willing to participate in his insensitivity

Personally,in my book,especially after plus T..H..R.E.E Y.E.A.R.S
he'd be dust...

but do what's in your heart and prayers
(((((((hugs))))))
 
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If a man tells you something like what you shared with us, believe him. You deserve a man that longs for you. Daily. Good luck!
 
All I can say is, I'm so sorry to hear that this happened Sunrayray. As far as I'm concerned you're dealing with a man who is already married: to his work. The fact that he could find it in himself to seek counseling to open up his emotional warehouse so as to advance his career, yet had the audacity to refuse marriage counseling when his dumb butt had a wife, demonstrates that he's married to the game. :nono: I hope you're continuing to recover from his nonsense.
 
I'm upset and thinking about leaving for good. He seems to be able to take me or leave me. It doesnt seem that he would loose one night of sleep if I left. This just doesnt seem healthy to me.
are you sure he feels this way?... because if so it seems you have your answer right here
 
Thanks for your response KayKay. He just seems to take me for granted and at this point I feel so hurt and since he is fine with being without me for a year. Then he SHOULD BE WITHOUT ME FOR A YEAR and I need to move on to someone else.
The "someone else" should be YOU. Focus on you. Take some time to learn, grow, and improve, and love yourself so that you can attract a better partner.
 
if i were in your situation....i would leave quietly without him even knowing that i have left.
there is Men out here who are looking for a Good Woman and will value You and Your Time Together.
i'm the type of person who does not have the time or patience for foolishness. and i hate when dumb, dumbs talk out the side of they necks.

to me it just seems a little Cold Hearted for him to say something like that.

adding.....damn girl i just read your answers to other post. is he still unaffectionate and unemotional towards you?
if you were to leave i agree with this suggestion... no talks or arguements or trying to explain why
 
Sorry to hear this, girl. No, I do not think you are being a drama queen at all. You have to decide what you are willing to deal with and what you are not. A man is going to treat us the way we allow him to. If he really feels like he can just take you for granted and say, "if I had to work for a whole year and not see you I could do it and survive" then maybe you need to bounce on his *** and see how well he does.

Listen, we have all been in love and only you know if you are really ready to step away from your relationship. I'm sure that there are a lot of good things about your relationship or else you would not have stayed for 3.5 y ears. Weigh your pros and cons and see how you feel about the list. Keep in mind, if and when he does make it in that industry, things are not going to change as far as his having to work a lot and you not being able to see him a lot. You have to decide if you can live with that, and then if you do decide to stay be aware of what you signed up for and don't give him a hard time about it.

Good Luck to you, sistah.
 
Move on. Why are you still with this person? What plans are you guys making for your future after being together for 3 1/2 years? Is marriage your goal? If so what plans is his making to merge your life with his? If marriage is your goal and he hasn't brought it up then it is time for you to move on. No man in his right mind would make such a hurtful statement to the woman he loves. He clearly doesn’t value you. Move on. Don't waste your time with an individual who sees you as disposable.
 
So as far as I can tell
1. he said a hurtful statement to you in the midst of an argument and at a time when he is stressed, maybe struggling with money/fears of failure
2. you feel he is cold and unemotional because he does not kiss and hold hands in public.
Unless there is more going on and only you know the real answer to that it sounds like a storm in a teacup.
People are different. Some men (and women) are not into public displays of affection. If he isn't let him be, as long as in private he shows you he really cares and is into you. Don't force him to adopt habits just to please you especially if those habits are ultimately meaningless. So what if some couples don't do PDA? Does that make them less in love, less worthy than those who do?
Again, couples argue, sometimes they say hurtful stuff. It may mean little or it may mean they need to communicate more to bring out in the open what is obviously simmering beneath the surface. Again this is not enough to end a 3 year relationship unless there is more to it.

If the man is stressed and tired the last thing he needs is his woman on the phone nagging him to call/visit etc. Maybe he doesn't want to. Just because what he wants is different from what you want, why should your way be the right one? Why must he fall in with man-made rules of what a "loving" relationship should be - "must hold hands in starbucks/the mall, must see each other daily/every weekend/must speak on the phone daily, etc. I say let him be. Let him be free. If you love him, he knows you're there for him. You get on with your life and support him as he should support you. If he needs time alone, GIVE IT TO HIM. If he loves you, he will appreciate how understanding and accepting you are and HE WILL BE THERE always. Now if that stuff (PDA, etc) is really vital to your peace of mind and he is just not that kind of guy then move along.. But to dump him for what I feel are trivial issues may not be the best move. Some men are not good at displaying emotion. There are women out there who are perfectly happy with such men, who understand and accept them. Equally there are those who would not be happy. If it's not your cup of tea then moving on might be best. 3 years (in fact, 1 year) is usually long enough for a woman to see all the facets of her mans character - if she is looking hard and well. Was he so different at the beginning or did you just "not see"? Maybe you thought you could change him..People are who they are and reveal themsleves to us, it's down to us to decide if we are going to honestly look at them ..or bury our heads in the sand.
Also it may be worth talking to a close male friend about this. No matter how experienced a woman is, men know and understand each other best. Good luck.

No...If the OP is an affectionate person, why should she give that up? Maybe she should find someone who doesn't mind holding her hand or kissing her in public. I believe that his behavior paired with the mean comment he made to her points to the fact that maybe...just maybe he isn't that into her.
 
No, when we got back together he changed all of that. He holds my hand in public now and kisses. The whole PDA thing. He had changed so much and things were going great. We were so happy and then this fight happened and he said this cruel thing. :wallbash:

He changed his behavior, but HE didn't change. If he had, then those words would have never passed his lips.

It's a harsh reality, but he said what he felt. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, leave, and never look back.
 
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