Why can't dude just want her to help out with the bills and saving extra money for the future?
All he said is that she's stayed home long enough and wants her to help him with the finances now that the kids are older. He's stressed. He sounds like a good man to me, but even the best of men can get stressed out in a bad economy.
Also, as a MAN he knows he has the "breadwinner" name to live up to, but in all seriousness, many women can't stay home like they did in the past and live "comfortably". It's difficult.
OP, I don't think he wants to leave you, but you need to figure out how to make the school thing work. Your 15 year old is old enough to look out for the other kids or maybe you need to change the younger kids schools around. I don't have a clue really, but somehow everything will work itself out.
You must not have read too far. You might wanna continue.
I hope he comes back home tonight.
You're right. Imma go back and delete my post. If I was the OP, I'd take Lady P's advice.
And let this thread serve as a reminder for those who don't have any marriage issues to be grateful for that and this be a reminder for you.
I cosign this post 1,000% Say you understand he just did that in a moment of anger and doesn't mean it whatever BS excuse he gives, you understand it all. Meanwhile, keep your eyes laser focused on the bank account, on his FB, on all of his behavior. Document, document, document. AND find a local divorce atty.
One question (I hate to bring it up, but...) do your kids have passports? If they do, you need to lock them up where he cannot find them TONIGHT. He may take the kids and flee to Jamaica.
Let this also serve as a reminder to have a SECRET STASH somewhere "just in case" you need it.
Last time I mentioned this in another thread, folks were talking about "if I'm married I shouldn't have to "hide" money from my HUSBAND cause what's mine is his" and all this other nonsense.
NOW YOU KNOW WHY YOU NEED IT.
Girl, I was like ain't no way in hell she coulda read this whole thing!
I think due to a rash of children abductions (mostly by middle eastern men), neither parent can take a child out of the country without written/notarized permission from the other parent. If the spouse is dead, then a death certificate needs to be presented, but she live in Canada so the laws might be different.
Yeah OP, hide the passports even though I don't believe he'll be taking the kids anywhere. That motorcycle is a sign of a man going through a midlife crisis and wanting his freedom. He will NOT be fighting for custody of those kids. Trust.
Let this also serve as a reminder to have a SECRET STASH somewhere "just in case" you need it.
Last time I mentioned this in another thread, folks were talking about "if I'm married I shouldn't have to "hide" money from my HUSBAND cause what's mine is his" and all this other nonsense.
NOW YOU KNOW WHY YOU NEED IT.
((hugs)) to you OP - this is a very difficult situation but you can make it a little easier by being prepared.
I don't do the 'ports like datjerseygirl but I do have me a glass a wine every now & then.This thread made me grab the whole dayum bottle!!
My dh is not a cheating dog, but I have my issues with him & that's a whole nother thread though. But the ladies of LHCF, my mama & sister have helped me get my ish together. I haven't finalized whether divorce is on the table or not yet, but I do have a PLAN A, PLAN B & PLAN C. So, no matter WTF happens - I got me & the kids covered.
I like to call the plans the " EXIST to EXIST & EXIST TO EXIT plans." Which simply means, you put on your game face & go to war. Strategize this ish. Be TWO steps ahead of your DH at all times. I know we all women's up in here, but you gotta try to t think like he's thinking right now & you can do it better than he can because you know him so well. And for everything you think he might do, could do, would do, have a plan waiting for his arse. Right now you are existing to create a better existence for youself & possibly just doing what is neccessary(exisiting) until you can strategically get out of the situation.
Find out who the BEST lawyers are in your area. Go consult with them. You got the time- that way when/if he goes to a lawyer, no one you've consulted with can take his case because it would be a conflict of interest.
Find out ASAP what the laws are & decide based on that whether or not it's time to get a job. If DH is pressuring you to get one, play the good little wife & pretend to look hard. Even go to an interview or two if it'll keep the peace.
Become a private eye & file all your information in a private place where you know he won't look. I keep mine in the drawer with my tampons & maxi pads- that nicca won't go nowhere near that stuff because most men can't stand that stuff.
LIMIT who you tell this to besides us. No matter how much you trust people- folks talk and you don't want him to have a clue about your strategizing right now.
I know it's hard, soooo very hard to leave a marriage. But, you got to look out for you & those kids. If you decide to stay with him, that's YOUR choice, but do yourself a favor and plan for the worst. so that way , if shyt hits the fan - you got an umbrella. If it doesn't... oh well- it's better to be prepared than to be arse out.
If you believe in God - tap into the strength only he give you right now & ask him for understanding,wisdom & discernment for this situation. God will give it to you. I tell you no lie & it might sound crazy as all get out but I asked God to help me see my dh for who he really is rather than what I create him to be in my mind and I started having all these dreams showing me the dayum truth along with passwords to email accounts, voicemails & stuff that I couldn't have guessed no matter how hard I tried.
I wish you all the best & all sickness ain't death, what don't kill you make you stronger & you will make it past this.
((hugs)) again & know we are here for you.
She is a SAHM I doubt that she can afford the best lawyers - the onus is on OP to educate herself on the process and rely on legal aid lawyers if necessary. Also I'm not sure why people are telling her to snoop around and try to catch him cheating and so forth... Alimony and child support are calculated based on income. He can't give what he doesn't have. So I don't see how whether she can prove he cheating will help her financially. If I were you OP I would:
1. Consider divorce (and everything that it means) consult a legal aid clinic for advice.
2. Find out exactly how much child support I would be entitled to.
3. Look into temporary government assistance (sigh).
3. Ponder living arrangements - can I afford mortgage or rents payments.
4. Speak to my family ask for their help and support.
5. Seriously consider finding a job or better still getting a student loan and going back to university full-time - this will buy you time (four years at least).
That's why it's called being strategic, even if she can't afford to hire the best lawyers it doesn't hurt to consult with them because that way her DH can't use them even if he wanted to. This is a situation where it doesn't hurt to cover all the bases. Most of the time a consult is free. Consult with them, so IF the dh decides to use one of divorce gurus, he will be greeted with the "I'm sorry Mr.SO& SO, I'm unable to take your case due to a previous consult with Mrs.So & SO" He will know then that this is not a game & he's not just going to get one up on her.
Also certain attorney's can make or break your divorce settlement. One worth his salt will be able to tell her how to cover her bases, what she needs to do & not do in order to protect herself & her children & to be able to get all of this info for FREE?? Priceless. How do I know this? Because I went to a top notch lawyer & got better advice than I did from the legal clinic. With the legal clinics, it's all customary stuff - the basics, the better lawyers give you the advantage & that's what their supposed to do. Not to insult her husband, but if he is willing to even consider putting her in such a compromising position, she needs to be uncompromising in having her plan of attack well organized & put together & still do it all with a smile on her face... be civil of course.
I wouldn't tell my family yet either- you don't want family in this type of marital business until your thinking is clear. Once the plan is clear to OP then I would suggest including family because sometimes family will have you even more confused than you already are. I would go to family more along the lines this is what happened & this is what I'm going to do, can you help? Versus going to family like "this is what happened, what should I do?" See the difference???
What if she decides to stay with him and gets the family in this mess? Their opinion of him would be shot to hell. Wives can often forgive & forget while moms,dads, & siblings don't. I can't tell you what to do OP because this is your life and this is all just my opinion which I thought I was entitled to.
I'm sorry I'm getting to this post kind of late, but please take the advice given to you on this forum. Unfortunately you are not the first wife that this has happened to...there is a formula that these women are sharing with you - with good reason. For the benefit of you and your experiences over the coming months, please take the advice.Hey all...
He's back. He came back and cooked, all the while ingnoring me. I have just sat here in the basement browsing the forum and figuring what the hell I'm going to do with a cheating husband. I wonder what he's thinking? He'll never tell me the truth though. Or maybe he would if I pushed him enough, thinking it wouldn't matter b/c I don't have any means to get up out of this situation? Psshhh...I'm just really staying out of his way. I don't want a blow up. The kids are eating and playing...bedtime soon for them. I am STARVING but, not eating anything...I can't let this blow over...I need answers! Yes, okay I have to work, that is fine, but everything else he has dealt me is unacceptable.
Settle down no need for the snarky tone, we are all on the same team - you are try to help - I'm trying to help. Above all what I'm trying to do is help OP by offering practical information based on my understanding of how things work in Canada. What works in the US doesn't necessarily work where OP lives in Toronto, Canada. At the end of the day all it is is advice its up to her to take it or leave it, so don't "see the difference???" me. Let's put egos aside and focus on helping OP.
Honey, I don't want you to get upset or angry with me. But what your husband is telling you... and your description of his behavior... it sounds like he might have one foot out the door. In a divorce, a man with a stay at home wife and minor children will have to pay SERIOUS child support and spousal support. If he can get you working, he will cut his financial obligations to you and the kids by a significant amount. If I were you, before laying a finger on that resume, I'd start snooping on 1. his email 2. his voicemail 3. his facebook if he has one. When a man starts shoving his wife out the door, many times it's because he wants a divorce... and men never leave until they have a replacement.
eta: going on nights would mess up his playtime with a mistress. If he really just wanted the extra income, he'd be happy to accommodate you with changing shifts. Think about it. I'm not saying for sure that he is, but I'm saying YOU NEED TO BE SURE HE ISN'T before you even think about taking a job.
*lights up a newport one hunnit n pours me some covah-see-ay or howeva da hell u spellit*
well well well....there some stinch in da air. lemme git dis hea straight. so da mu'phucka done tole u afta how many..*counts on fingas*..1-2-3.....afta 4 chirren datchu need to git a job?
he starts hangin out wif da pink boys n done went out n bought a motorcycle. yeah, he phuckin. sho is. see, not only is someone on his penis, but someone is in his ear too. meanin someone tellin him dis shyt and then he comes home and put it on you. dat go git a job came from one of his buddies. and see, he wants u to git a job so he can have some ho funds. da ho gotta eat n shyt, so da more he puts into yalls household, da less he has to splurge on his new ho.
it's phucked up, but it's true. he ain't dat bright to think well...lemme tell her to git a job cuz dat'll be less money i gotta pay in spousal support. u women give these dogs way too much credit. but i will give him a lil credit. he's givin u a heads up. da writin is on da wall. he feels trapped financially, which is why he tellin u to go find a job.
*puff n plucks ash...takes a sip*
but then again, by me bein olda, there is a WHOOOOOLE lot more to this story than what ur tellin. like, if ur home all day, and when he gits home, is dinner cooked..lil dumb shyt like that...is da house clean? are u keepin urself up? das prolly why he was lookin atchu all stoopit n shyt. neva know whats goin thru his mind chile. just neva know. he prolly tired of comin home to da same ole bu'shyt. i ain't sayin dats da case shuga...im just sayin. there are always three sides to a story, urs, his and da truth.
well, u done dealth with it this long, now u need to devise plan. eitha have a plan or plan to fail. since u in da house all dayum day, idle time is da devil time. start gettin YOU togetha cuz see, when da shyt hits da fan, u gotta be prepared. i wouldn't leave him now cuz you'll be givin him what he wants lololol i know its sad, but true.
you already know in ur heart dat he out der, so no sense in tryna fix dat cuz whats done is done. get a job and start bankin some money. straightup. don't tell him how much u make, etc. nunna his dayum bidness. get a job n start gettin ur shyt t'getha cuz now u gotta focus on u and dem chirren. but one thing i won't do is leave my home. phuck dat. he want out, den he gotta go. simple as that.
*puffs n sips some mo*
i would reverse da psych on him. i would git a job, have everything in place, wouldn't bother him too much bout sex, or how was his day, etc. in other words, i would kill his monkey azzz with kindness. throw him a curve ball. u gotta psych these bamas out when u play dis game of whose gonna get phucked first. don't show emotion to let him know datchu know he out der cuz all its gonna do is make matters worse. right now, he sees dat ur weak cuz u ain't got a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. gain ur position n get back on ur feet and let dat be da reason chile.
avoid arguments and do whatchu gotta do. bein a housewife and all dat is nice, but if u ain't financially got it goin on (like baller wives n shyt), then it ain't cute. imma need u to step ur game up. can't be no broke azzzz housewife. dayum dat.
And let this thread serve as a reminder for those who don't have any marriage issues to be grateful for that and this be a reminder for you.
And for those who aren't in relationships and have great high ideals as to how things should go down, I pray you are never placed in a situation such as this, because sometimes life just goes a certain way - the days accumulate and one day you wake up, get dressed and look around thinking WTF.
Nobody plans anything like this is all.
Hmmm. People are already posting as if it is conclusively proven that OP's husband is cheating and planning to leave. OP I would advise you to get the facts first before acting on any of this advice.
Let this also serve as a reminder to have a SECRET STASH somewhere "just in case" you need it.
Last time I mentioned this in another thread, folks were talking about "if I'm married I shouldn't have to "hide" money from my HUSBAND cause what's mine is his" and all this other nonsense.
NOW YOU KNOW WHY YOU NEED IT.
Don't do anything on an empty stomach.... eat and breathe.