My Husband told me to "Get a Job"!!!

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She could go back to college on his dime to get a higher degree. Answering phones can be done by anyone with a HS diploma and doesn't pay well. Depending on her talents, she could come away with something very lucrative.

eta: but ITA, secretary jobs are WAY better than CNA jobs

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He only makes about $50,000 Canadian (approximate assumption based on $26/hour). I say only because income tax in Canada is sky high. That kind of money is not enough to send anyone to school in Canada, OP would have to get a student loan. And as for child support + alimony I doubt that what he will be ordered to pay will be enough to take care of 4 children. OP will probably have to work or most definitely apply for some kind of government assistance. Also please, understand that the advice you are being by most people on LHCF is based on the assumption that you are in the US - a lot of the legal advice may not apply here (I'm in Canada too).

OP here is a links to information on child support in Ontario.

http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/pi/fcy-fea/sup-pen/index.html

http://canada.justice.gc.ca/eng/pi/fcy-fea/lib-bib/legis/fcsg-lfpae/tbl1_4/on_b.pdf

Good luck.

thank you thank you thank you..... i'm so glad you put up this info...

this may be late (i haven't read to the end of the thread yet) but OP, please RESEARCH your area... from what i've read so far, Canada is no-fault, so legally, it doesn't matter if he's cheating or not... if you're not happy and you think he doesn't love you, that should be reason enough to go....

i also read something re: alimony in canada... i'm not sure if it's vetted, but, if it's true, it basically said that if the receiving party is making no moves to make money, any alimony granted is lower than it would be otherwise...

OP, i believe everyone has your best interest at heart... however, don't ride on what you read here.. do your own research before you end up penniless and on the street...
 
okay...i said i wouldn't come back till tonight, but I couldn't stay away. I asked him why does he want to go to the movies when he said he didn't even want to be with me and he got annoyed. He told me either I say yes or no and not to ask any questions about it. Then he decides to go for a bike ride. He said he'll be back in 5 min (yeah, right).

He is just as confused as I am. He has 1 foot in the relationship and 1 foot out. I have to basically subject myself to his moods and whims in order to keep this family together...I don't know...I'm going to take one posters advice and get ready to go to the movies with him, perhaps he may open up more during the drive there...we'll see...
 
I hope you two get a chance to go to the movies Shiny. He sounds really confused. You did mention that he said he was depressed. He may need some help to cope with that. Not too many men mention that they are depressed unless it is real.

It's very hard to get men to go to doctors in the first place, but perhaps you can find a way to ask him if he needs to make a doctor's appt to describe his problems with his primary physician.
 
I asked him why does he want to go to the movies when he said he didn't even want to be with me and he got annoyed. He told me either I say yes or no and not to ask any questions about it.

I'm glad you asked him why. It's not a mean or rude question while his answer was very rude and dismissive. He's not your father and giving you a "because I say so" type answer is disrespectful.

Ask him to lock the door before you leave. See if he still has his house key.
 
I'm glad you asked him why. It's not a mean or rude question while his answer was very rude and dismissive. He's not your father and giving you a "because I say so" type answer is disrespectful.

Ask him to lock the door before you leave. See if he still has his house key.

From what shiny has shared, he is OFTEN rude, dismissive and disrespectful. ITA she should check (subtly) to see if he has his key when they leave.
 
YES x 1,000! This man read you the riot act about how much he doesn't want you, to the point that he doesn't even want to come home after work. NOW he wants to go on a date, like it's all good? Beware. Beware, because odds are good that he wants you out for a specific reason... one that is not in your best interest.

When I read he invited her to a movie, the first thing I thought about was Rae Carruth. He invited his baby's mother to the movie to get her out of the house and we all know how that turned out. Now, I aint saying that OP's hubby will do that, but I hope she has her mom or friend at the house while they are gone to keep an eye on things.
 
Okay, I guess I'm a little slow. What would it mean if he doesn't have his key?

That someone else does! Like a moving company who will come clear all his stuff out, so he can drop her off and bounce on his motorcycle. Or like an appraiser, come to assess the house (to start making divorce settlement planning).
 
That he has given it to someone else to have access to their house.

*slaps forehead* Very smart. I hope she has her people at the house watching those kids and keeping an eye on things. I would even go so far as saying that she should meet him at the movie theatre but that would probably piss him off. I just don't put nothing past people, DH or no DH. You just never know.
 
That someone else does! Like a moving company who will come clear all his stuff out, so he can drop her off and bounce on his motorcycle. Or like an appraiser, come to assess the house (to start making divorce settlement planning).

Point taken. You all are really giving her some fantastic advice up in this thread.
 
okay, y'all startin' to sound a bit crazy now. LOL! :lachen:

Drug dealers? Movers clearing out the house? Murder??

Somebody's been watching too many episodes of Snapped! :lachen: :giggle:

Can't the woman just go out and have a "harmless" movie with her husband with no ulterior motives? Not by LHCF standards. :nono: :rofl:
 
okay, y'all startin' to sound a bit crazy now. LOL! :lachen:

Drug dealers? Movers clearing out the house? Murder??

Somebody's been watching too many episodes of Snapped! :lachen: :giggle:

Can't the woman just go out and have a "harmless" movie with her husband with no ulterior motives? Not by LHCF standards. :nono: :rofl:


Yes she can, but she came on a public forum and asked for advice. It's to be expected that she will be getting a wide array of advice/ideas. If the advice so far aint bothering her, then I don't think anybody else should let it bother them.
 
okay, y'all startin' to sound a bit crazy now. LOL! :lachen:

Drug dealers? Movers clearing out the house? Murder??

Somebody's been watching too many episodes of Snapped! :lachen: :giggle:

Can't the woman just go out and have a "harmless" movie with her husband with no ulterior motives? Not by LHCF standards. :nono: :rofl:

I was trying to figure out what the "key" comment meant :lol:

ETA: I agree we should let them go in peace, handle their business, and stop the speculations :)
 
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Jada, I hope I'm wrong and you can laugh all you want to at me. Heck, I'm not proud, I'll laugh with you.

I've seen what some men do to women they think they can control, it doesn't hurt to be aware. No, I don't think he'll hurt her, but possibly put the house on the market w/o her knowledge? Moving out valuables? Pulling all their financial documents? Bugging the computer/phone?

He's the one that's been taking his cell phone to the bathroom with him, shaving himself (and no, I don't believe the motorcycle BS), playing like he's single and talking down to the OP.

I hope I am wrong and that Shiny & her husband have a good enjoyable evening out.
 
okay...i said i wouldn't come back till tonight, but I couldn't stay away. I asked him why does he want to go to the movies when he said he didn't even want to be with me and he got annoyed. He told me either I say yes or no and not to ask any questions about it. Then he decides to go for a bike ride. He said he'll be back in 5 min (yeah, right).

He is just as confused as I am. He has 1 foot in the relationship and 1 foot out. I have to basically subject myself to his moods and whims in order to keep this family together...I don't know...I'm going to take one posters advice and get ready to go to the movies with him, perhaps he may open up more during the drive there...we'll see...

This is what I was thinking the man is just confused. Seems like he is trying to open up. If he wanted to leave that bad he would have been gone already. This is just a serious wake up call that you guys need to work on your marriage if you plan on making it any further. I really hope you all try to find a licensed counselor to help you get back on track.
 
First off – shineyblack – I can appreciate that some of what I’ve said may have come off unsympathetic – that was not my intention. I am in no way condoning your husbands behavior, I’m only trying to explain how he could come to feel the way he feels. It’s a shame that he’s checked out on your marriage, but whatever you do, please ensure he has a relationship with your children that is healthy. Do not let whatever is going on between the two of you emotionally harm your children. I speak as someone who has been at the centre of this particular battle.

You also need to stop feeling sorry for yourself! I’m glad you’ve acknowledged some of what he’s said, but that doesn’t mean you should continue to internalise it. It’s good that you’re planning to do something. I actually think if you can live with your mother you should, until you can get yourself together….. save some money, go to school, fulfil your dreams. Whatever happens, I did say a prayer for you before posting and I’

I actually think leaving him with the kids may not be such a bad idea. Those of you saying if the husband was abusive to her, then he will abuse the kids….well, again, I have to disagree. You can be a lousy wife or husband and be a good parent. The two are not mutually exclusive.

ambergirl – I’m not trying to make this about me, so I’ll just end this particular diversion by saying, no, I am not excusing OP’s husband. He’s an a$$ just as my father was an a$$ to my mother. I know how a man should treat a woman which I why I’ve never been with a man who has abused me and if he did, he’d be in hospital facing reconstructive surgery.

Once again – I’m going to disagree with the consensus – why do women always think they have to fleece their husbands for all they can get? This maliciousness is totally unnecessary. God will deal with those who do evil on earth, it is not for you to mete out punishment by taking him for all he has, especially when he’s a good father. The man has an obligation to his kids, not to someone who has the ability to work. Child support is one thing, spousal support….in perpetuity? Nah son.

In any case, it sound like shineyblack’s husband is trying to reach out to her. I say she takes the olive branch and works from there. Like someone said – it’s surprising that the women who are advocating divorce are themselves married. Also even more worrying is the amount of time some of you ( who from all appearances appear to be happily married), have invested in how you will take your husbands for all you can get should he dare to cross you. I hope I never go into a marriage looking for the exit clause…..or ways to penalise him for breaching a contract…..cause that’s what it sounds like – a financial transaction, not a marriage

As for some of the other advice….wow, just wow..:nono:



I appreciate your levelheadness and you make good points but at the end of the day there is just no excuse for his behavior. I don't care how resentful he is, there is never an excuse to abuse your wife. Ever. If he is so done with their situation, then he needs to talk to her about an exit plan.

I also find your parents situation intersting, but not everyone would feel the same as your mom about that situation. My experience is a little different, but very early in my dating life I was with a guy who tried to mold and shape me into being the person he wanted me to be. I hated it and eventually we broke up. A few years after that I ran into him and he saw that I was doing well for myself and he had the audacity to say I probably wouldn't be where I was had it not been for him. Please! If anything I would have been in an even better place in my life if I had not wasted one iota of time on his sorry arse!

Now we don't know the truth about what's going on in this marriage because we're only hearing one side of the story. But what concerns me about your posts is I hear you excusing pretty abysmal behavior and not to get too personal, I wonder if that's because you grew up in a situation where your dad was openly resentful of your mother. I'm sorry you had to live through that, and I'm glad your mom has made the best of it, but I wonder if your perception of what's acceptable behavior in a relationship is skewed because of your childhood experiences.
 
Maybe I am one of the few, but I can totally understand where your husband is coming from. You and your husband grew up together by getting married so young, however it may appear to him that you haven't grown as much as he has, and that is definitely a cause of concern. Getting a license, getting even a small part time job to contribute to the house, getting a little gig so that you could buy him something nice every once in a while, keeping yourself and your body right, are things that you should have taken the initiative to do. Bearing and raising kids is very important, however your husband has contributed just as much. He has single handedly taken care of you and the kids for the past 15 years. I dont see him as this bad guy, he could have handled it wayyyyyy better, but I can understand him being fed up. It happens to the best of us. Matter a fact, he seems rather chill considering he said he would keep taking care of you all after he moved out, cause most men would chuck the deuces and you would be stuck like chuck.
I may be in the minority, but I don't think you should go to your moms house. Once you go there, you will be dependent on your mom just like you are your husband. that would be living your life in a semi circle going from one end to the next. Discuss with your husband what you would like to do with yourself and take ACTION! After 15 years together, and no ill will, this man probably does love you. That's worth at least trying to fight for.


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I can't believe no one has really said this yet. From the OP's first post, I do not see the hubby as a villain. Could he have gone about things differently and acted on things more soon ? YES. This man makes $26/hr and supports 4 kids and a wife and a mortgage. I can't even fathom how stressful that is in itself. He also let out his frustrations about OP being dependent on him, and she doesn't drive. Those don't seem to be unreasonable complaints at all. I'm all for SAHM, but it's not like her DH is making 6 figures. It would be a great help if the OP got a job to help relieve some of the financial burden, also it would be a benefit to herself and her family if she learned how to drive. IDK, I really don't think the hubby in this case is sooo awful like how he's put out to be. Also, how much alimony do you think she'll get off of $26/hr. She'd still need to get a decent paying job to take care of herself and 4 kids.
 
Hey everyone..I had a good chuckle reading these last few posts, lol. My kids were all in the house just watching tv. My neighbours (Policeman) were home and know we went to the movies and knew the my eldest DD would be in charge. We went and saw Takers (man he shoulda chose a different movies cause I was in heaven watching that movies full of fine *** men, lol). When we got home we talked in the driveway which resulted in me having a near nervous breakdown to the point where he was hushing me I was bawling and just acting a fool in front of this man - even as I was doing it I was pissed at myself. I am literally weak from that episode. He said he is "torn" and that this relationship is "boring" I don't know WTF else to do. I am about ready to just give up. He asked me to go to the movies so he could get out of the house. Damn I don't what else to say, but right about now I'm LIVID and I'm about to move **** to the basement. F him.
 
what?

*goes to get glasses so I can see if I saw that right*

he said the relationship is "boring"?

boring?

BORING?

you are better than me because he would have had some hot grits poured on him with the quickness!
 
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OP, one movie will not change 15 yrs. Of course he is "torn". That's just like when you still feel upset because he wronged you and didnt apologized. Just because youve guys had one chat and a movie, it wont be an immediate fairy tale.

Like I said before, work on you, get counseling for the both of you, and move on from there. After you become self-secure, then you can decided what you want to do.
 
Yes she can, but she came on a public forum and asked for advice. It's to be expected that she will be getting a wide array of advice/ideas. If the advice so far aint bothering her, then I don't think anybody else should let it bother them.

I'm sorry, but I can't tell if you're getting smart or not, but the advice isn't "bothering" me.

It's now to the point where peeps are saying all types of mess that doesn't even sound rationale. I'm not saying it WON'T happen, but I doubt it's gonna happen in THIS instance. All dude wanted to do was take his wife to the movies as a gesture of what? I don't know, but NEITHER DOES ANYONE ELSE ON HERE EITHER.

Sometimes peeps take things too far on here and I don't doubt that some men can be trifling, but now folks are talking murder, setups, planting evidence, stealing stuff out the house, etc. Like come on now?!! Get a grip!

I'm out this thread, but I will say the 90% of everything posted to help the OP is valid and excellent advice, but the last few pages are a bit on the bizarre side whether folks wanna cop to it or not.
 
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what?

*goes to get glasses so I can see if I saw that right*

he said the relationship is "boring"?

boring?

BORING?

you are better than me because he would have had some hot grits poured on him with the quickness!

So you gonna assault someone because they said your relationship is boring???
 
I'm sorry, but I can't tell if you're getting smart or not, but the advice isn't "bothering" me.

It's now to the point where peeps are saying all types of mess that doesn't even sound rationale. I'm not saying it WON'T happen, but I doubt it's gonna happen in THIS instance. All dude wanted to do was take his wife to the movies as a gesture of what? I don't know, but NEITHER DOES ANYONE ELSE ON HERE EITHER.

Sometimes peeps take things too far on here and I don't doubt that some men can be trifling, but now folks are talking murder, setups, planting evidence, stealing stuff out the house, etc. Like come on now?!! Get a grip!

I'm out this thread, but I will say the 90% of everything posted to help the OP is valid and excellent advice, but the last few pages are a bit on the bizarre side whether folks wanna cop to it or not.

Yet nobody asked..."who will be watching the kids" LMAO

Only on LHCF.....
 
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