Crackers Crumbs: How You Go On Vacation Without Your Wife? >:(

See this is why I have questions about the married life. I can't go somewhere without my husband or ppl might be on my case? I can't be away from the man for a few weeks even with my mom? For the rest of his life? I need a more flexible situation than that.

I'm probably going to be taking a trip without DH this year and I know a lot of people are gonna give me the side eye for that but I really don't care.
 
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lol people are missing the point. Your 1 year anniversary is coming up and you're gone for THREE WEEKS without me? Yeah...no. No one is saying to not take vacations without your spouse. :rolleyes:

Their marriage sounds real juicy....i bet she was a mail order bride with her 1st husband. Does she even speak English....well she might by now.
 
lol people are missing the point. Your 1 year anniversary is coming up and you're gone for THREE WEEKS without me? Yeah...no. No one is saying to not take vacations without your spouse. :rolleyes:

Their marriage sounds real juicy....i bet she was a mail order bride with her 1st husband. Does she even speak English....well she might by now.
Her English is only slightly accented. I think she works to hide it.

I'm going to have to figure out a way to get him to tell me more about the first husband. He doesn't drink otherwise it would be easy to squeeze the info out of him.
 
YES. WHY YES HE DID ENJOY DOING WPS!!!!!!!

Her first husband went out like Sonny Bono and hit tree while skiing. I know that the friend has life insurance that he likely made her a beneficiary of but I don't know if she has her own policy on him.

See, you are giving me a whole new line of questioning.
I like how she thinks.

This dude had a hard time finding a woman to date him while trying to shower them with money and gifts. He has never said this to me but I don't think his wife is his type and I certainly know that a ready made family was not his first choice. He told me a long time ago that all he required was a woman who didn't find him completely repulsive he could build a relationship on that.

I put all of this out there to say, this dude doesn't have the game to cheat. I have discussed the possibility of him using escorts and the consensus is while he would not have been above a sugar daddy or mail order bride set up, his ego couldn't take outright paying an escort.
Gosh, this is my dream sugar daddy. I would've happily done him the favor to take all his money and gifts. Oh well...
 
Girl.... If I were single I'd totally help him out by letting him pay my bills. Not even that ugly.
Listen, I let him pay for a whole lot of things for me when I was single. All it took was to say I wished I could get xyz and the next time I saw him he had an extra xyz laying around that he would happily hand over. He compulsively shopped on Amazon daily. So if Amazon had it I could have it.

He would have been open to do more if I would have offered more but on top of all his other faults, he's a republican.

ETA: Just in case it ain't clear, there was zero sex going on here. As far as dude was concerned if you are a woman and didn't yell at him that's all it took for him to play Santa Claus.
 
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Listen, I let him pay for a whole lot of things for me when I was single. All it took was to say I wished I could get xyz and the next time I saw him he had an extra xyz laying around that he would happily hand over. He compulsively shopped on Amazon daily. So if Amazon had it I could have it.

He would have been open to do more if I would have offered more but on top of all his other faults, he's a republican.
I draw the line at republican, but if i was single and got a sugar daddy, a real one, not some gifts only/salt daddy, I would bear it til my debts were paid off :look: I'd avoid talking about politics, because I might get arrested if some Trump supporter tries it.
 
I just googled to be sure. And yep, folks are vacationing there regularly now.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/14/travel/chernobyl-tourism/index.html

Smh. They have hotels in the exclusion zone and mofos are actually patronizing them.
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Chernobyl, site of nuclear disaster, now a tourist zone
Anita Isalska, for CNN • Updated 26th April 2016
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(CNN) — Three decades after the nuclear disaster there, the name Chernobyl still inspires dread. When an explosion tore through Reactor 4 of the Chernobyl power plant on April 26, 1986, it was the worst nuclear accident the world had ever seen.Clouds of highly radioactive particles were released into the air during an attempted routine shutdown of the power plant north of Kiev in the former Soviet Union (now Ukraine).

Today, the number of tourists seeking to head deep into Chernobyl's Exclusion Zone, a 30-kilometer radius of contaminated land around the power plant, supports several tour firms. Even though recent instability in eastern Ukraine has pushed the country off most travelers' radars, Chernobyl still looms large in the global consciousness.Fears regularly circulating about the fallout zone, last year it was contamination via forest fires, seem to stoke just as much fascination, drawing a steady stream of tourists. There are even hotels inside the Exclusion Zone. Visits are governed by security checks and by strictly guided tours. Visitors travel to the site, a two-hour drive north of Ukrainian capital Kiev, by tour bus. Once there, they sign a disclaimer warning against touching any objects or vegetation, or even sitting on the ground. Leaving the site is also highly regulated. Body scanners test for high levels of radiation. If the scanner alarm sounds, guards sweep the individual for radioactive dust before they're allowed to leave.

Frozen in time
The payoff is access to a city frozen in time. The empty city of Pripyat, evacuated after the accident, is a snapshot of Eastern Europe before the fall of the Iron Curtain. The zone's post-apocalyptic atmosphere exerts a strong pull.
Rusting boats list in the River Pripyat. A Ferris wheel stands motionless among steadily encroaching trees. Traces of life in the former USSR are scattered everywhere, from children's school books to Soviet propaganda posters. The Chernobyl accident is ranked level 7, the highest on the International Nuclear Event Scale. The severity of its widespread environmental and human cost has only been equaled by 2011's disaster at Fukushima in Japan. Contaminated rain and wind depositing radioactive dust were recorded as far afield as Sweden and Wales. Research continues to examine the complex effects of increased exposure to radiation on ecosystems.

Chernobyl church still active
Memories of the human toll remain vivid, though precise numbers are disputed. Official records give a death toll less than 50, many of them firefighters sent to tackle the blaze at the power plant. But birth defects and thyroid cancer in Ukraine, as well as neighboring Belarus and parts of Russia, have been attributed to the accident. Some studies link as many as 1,800 childhood cases of thyroid cancer to the Chernobyl accident. The effects of the disaster on mental health in Ukraine and beyond are also coming to light. Stigmatization of local people and relocation of communities is blamed for widespread depression and social problems. But visitors who expect to find a charred, uninhabited wasteland are surprised when they enter the Exclusion Zone.
Far from being empty, power plant workers still commute into the zone. A place of worship, the turquoise and white St. Elijah Church continues to welcome devotees. Approximately 200 people still live inside the Exclusion Zone, despite government orders to leave.

Ghost town a "scattered snapshot" of old USSR
Peaceful meadows inside the zone suggest nothing out of the ordinary.
But tour guides hover Geiger counters over rusted debris littering the grass. Background radiation around the Exclusion Zone can be up to 10 times the normal level. Slow-growing vegetation, especially prone to absorbing radioactive particles, tests even higher. The most intriguing part of the Exclusion Zone is the ghost town of Pripyat.
Founded 2 kilometers from the power plant in 1970, the city soon swelled to nearly 50,000. Its entire population was evacuated after the disaster. Now abandoned and overgrown, Pripyat still resembles a shattered snapshot of the typical Soviet city it once was. Visitors crunch through broken glass and sidestep bushes sprouting through corners of apartment blocks. Textbooks are strewn in empty classrooms and a chipped swimming pool lies empty beneath rotting wooden beams.
Traces of the former USSR are everywhere. Vivid Soviet murals dance on walls. Faded gas masks in children's sizes lie in their dozens, a reminder of an era when fear of attack hung thick in the air. "It is the preservation of Communist artifacts and atmosphere that people find so fascinating as well as the sad story behind it," says Dominik Orfanus. Orfanus is a former tour guide of the fallout zone and now CEO of CHERNOBYLwel.come, a company arranging excursions to Chernobyl since 2008.

Photographer favorite
Such is the allure of Chernobyl to photographers that in 2012 a specific line of tours (chernobylphoto.com) was launched to meet the demand. "The untouched scenery, wilderness, the contrast of the past and now, make Chernobyl really interesting for photographers," says Orfanus. Pripyat's amusement park is its most photographed area. The park's official opening had been planned for May 1, 1986, but the city was evacuated just days before. Bumper cars, their yellow paint peeling, are at a standstill on cracked concrete. The rusty funfair wheel has become almost iconic. Barely used, the wheel has become a symbol of a once lively city silenced by disaster. Though told the evacuation was temporary, Pripyat's citizens never returned. In the months afterward, some people returned to loot the site. Chairs were torn out of a cinema and anything of value was hurried away. The passing decades have seen nature encroaching into these once peopled spaces. Drifters still turn up in Pripyat -- their calling cards are occasional beer bottles and cigarette stubs around the city.

Haunting graffiti, glimmers of meaning
More haunting is the graffiti that now punctuates the atmosphere in this quiet place. Silhouettes of dancing figures are daubed on the walls of Pripyat's buildings, perhaps an attempt to bring human life back. In the months following the accident, a sarcophagus was built to cover Reactor 4 and contain the radioactive material. Its other three reactors were still operational, but the last one shut down in 2000. Efforts to contain the spread of radioactive particles continue to the present day. A New Safe Confinement barrier is being built to replace the sarcophagus. The final phase of construction is nearly underway, though reports suggest further funding needs to be secured. The NSC is designed to contain radioactive waste and prevent further environmental contamination. But curiously, increasing numbers of visitors to the area describe Chernobyl as a wildlife haven.

At first sight, Chernobyl's untended greenery gives the impression of a place reclaimed by nature. Shrubs burst through the floors and plants strangle window frames. Much was made of a brown bear sighting in the fallout zone at the end of 2014.
Could nature be thriving in Chernobyl? "There are severely depressed populations of most species in the contaminated areas," says Anders Pape Moller who has been researching Chernobyl since 1991. Moller, a senior scientist at French national research organization CNRS, has observed that while cleaner areas within the zone aren't impacted to the same degree, reduction in wildlife in contaminated areas is noticeable. "You can hear it in spring because there are fewer birds singing. Like Rachel Carson's 'Silent Spring,'" he adds, referring to the classic 1962 environmental science book.

The effects of the Chernobyl nuclear accident on wildlife -- including higher rates of tumors and albinism in the local bird population -- continue to be recorded. But the idea that natural forces can repair the damage wrought by humankind is powerful. Many tourists to Chernobyl's quiet meadows are seeking a glimmer of meaning. With statistics relating to Chernobyl hotly debated and the incident's long-term effects still being measured, answers are hard to come by. This ambivalence seems sure to continue holding Chernobyl's visitors in thrall.
Photos of abandoned Soviet spaces and facilities cast an eerie beauty
Abandoned palaces in Poland make for haunting images
 
Don't think that, there are always those that will act as if you don't have a marriage the way they're used to seeing it, you're doing it wrong, the most important thing is to find someone who not only loves you but is compatible with your personality, if you have that life is a lot easier. :)

Thanks. :bighug:I'm not jaded at all. My parents were married from before I was born until the day Dad died, and they had a lot of love, complete with a lot of alone time. :) When I say "marrying type", I mean it in a stereotypical way :look::drunk:
 
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I enjoy traveling with my husband and without my husband. I enjoy spending time with him. I enjoy spending time on my own doing things.
3 WEEKS apart at one time by choice is crazy as hell to me, and I don't need to be under my husband all the time at all.

Thinking this is cuckoo does not mean a woman feels the need to be up under her man all the time. :rolleyes:
I've been married 10 years and I can stand about 1-2 weeks away from my husband at most. And I'm also one that doesn't have to be up under him all the time. We don't even sleep in the same bedroom some nights...(cause of the kid--long story)....but we get it in plenty. Anyhoo. I agree that this is cuckoo....Being a newlywed and being away from your wife 3 weeks is bad.....spending all that time with mommy is bad....spending almost a MONTH away from your new wife other than work is bad.....going to Chernobyl....???? mess.
 
Hummm. I would totally take a vacay without my husband. Maybe not 3 weeks but at least 2, heck yeah. And if the kid's not mine? Not coming with me. Shoot if the kid is mine, not coming with me lol. I don't see anything wrong with that. And if he thinks his kid is coming on our honeymoon...annulment.
 
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