WhipEffectz1
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pebbles said:You ain't lying! Even turning on the tv is a big risk! Sheesh! Flesh everywhere!!
pebbles said:You ain't lying! Even turning on the tv is a big risk! Sheesh! Flesh everywhere!!
pebbles said:You ain't lying! Even turning on the tv is a big risk! Sheesh! Flesh everywhere!!
pebbles said:You ain't lying! Even turning on the tv is a big risk! Sheesh! Flesh everywhere!!
LocksOfLuV said:You a fool!
breezy said:How do you feel about that? Are you okay w/ it or do you consider it a form of cheating. Is it something you wouldn't mind him doing every once in a while, or are you completely against it?
Mizani_Mrs said:I wouldn't care. of course i would care if he made a habit out of it and if he misbehaved himself. But u bets believe that when Mizani_Mr goes to bachelor parties, u better believe that i already had 'the talk' about what's acceptable and what's not. Like if a chick is dancing in front of you and and u decide to slap her *** then im not going to throw a fit over that. but he ain't got no business touching or rubbing her 'hot spots' or inserting anyting on his body into any orifice on her body...whether it's his finger or anything else... (ur um, hopefully i'm being clear without being explicit). Same with me...i'll slap a man's *** in a heartbeat but i aint got no earthly business rubbing my hand on his Mangina..
BlkManWithSomeSense said:Thank you Breezy, I appreciate what you said because I'm a lil tired of hearing that about men. Some of us do exercise some discretion. I broaden my mind to not think stereotypically about women.
Personally I think it is a form of cheating. If you're in a commited relationship why on earth would a man be in a place of naked women? His heart, lusts, and sexual enjoyments all should be focused on hs lady. It is not harmless, it's demeaning and disgraceful. I'm not in agreeance to this idea that as long as a man is not having sexual intercourse then everything else is fair game. Whats the point of being in a commited relationship if you're not going to honor the most basic part?...Keyword COMMITMENT.
winterinatl said:this is my beef exactly. Go if you are single. But if we are in deep, why should I EVA think it is okay for you to be in the same room with other naked butts? If it isn't cool for you to do in daylight hours or a work/in the general public, then it shouldn't be able to happen at a strip club.
I think men have women trained to believe that they 'have' to go and that they need to, yada yada yada. Whatever. I like to see naked pretty men too. I like variety too. But I'm not goin to let some stange man rub himself all over me while I'm in a committed relationship.
I think men going to strip clubs MAKES their women feel insecure...not just insecure women complaining.
I also think its pure tripe for a man to say it should make our sex better at home because he comes home horny. Honestly if I knew he was at a club and then hopped in the bed horny and rubbing my butt I would kick him out. I know why he's feeling right; b/c of some chick was in his face an hour ago. Hell no it won't make our sex life better.
breezy said:But I have a question for everyone, would you still find it wrong if it's an experience that a couple enjoy doing together (the woman isn't insecure and isn't going to please anybody, she just genuinely enjoys herself and has a good time when she goes) ?
lauren450 said:I don't feel that I can make a blanket statement and say it's wrong in that situation. I mean, if both parties enjoy it and have no moral objections to it, then it's their business. I just don't feel it's right for my relationship, and neither does my dh.
However, I will always feel it's wrong for a man to go against his wife's wishes, and vice-versa.
Ha haaaaa! Yes she did!! (picture Smokey's mom from Friday saying that)breezy said:OMG I love you! Mangina...no you didn'!
breezy said:I understand where you're coming from. We all have our limits in our relationships.
But I have a question for everyone, would you still find it wrong if it's an experience that a couple enjoy doing together (the woman isn't insecure and isn't going to please anybody, she just genuinely enjoys herself and has a good time when she goes) ?
breezy said:OT: Lauren you still up on the net? I'm "doing laundry"
lauren450 said:This is my "me time". The kid and the hubby are in bed, so I get to surf in peace. I might try to get something done before I go to bed.
RavenIvygurl said:would your men be comfortable with ya'll going to a strip club?
He wouldnt even have to worry about that...I dont like male strip clubs :yuck: for some reasonRavenIvygurl said:would your men be comfortable with ya'll going to a strip club?
Ayeshia said:He wouldnt even have to worry about that...I dont like male strip clubs :yuck: for some reason
UmSumayyah said:I'm lucky that my husband thinks its demeaning.
breezy said:Ok, I'll be a gay perv w/ you then. I go with dh sometimes. It's no big deal. To us it's just like going out to a regular club and having drinks, there are just girls dancing there. To be honest, sometimes I see more at a normal club than I would at a strip club. Besides, it's always fun to go pick up tips
breezy said:Hey, it's always fun to go to the club, see a show, then go home and put on your own....makes for a very fun night indeed!
breezy said:I understand where you're coming from. We all have our limits in our relationships.
But I have a question for everyone, would you still find it wrong if it's an experience that a couple enjoy doing together (the woman isn't insecure and isn't going to please anybody, she just genuinely enjoys herself and has a good time when she goes) ?
BlkManWithSomeSense said:I'm just going to say this as it jumps off my mind.
Everything has suddenly become relative. Commitment,Truth, lies, friendship, deception, derrogative words are no longer defined understandings but now a matter of interpretation.
' It's not cheating if the other mate agrees to what happens'
' It wasnt a lie, it was an omission. You didnt ask the right question'
' I didnt deceive you. You assumed.'
' I promised never to tell my best friend's secrets but she's not my best friend anymore so all bets are off'
It's funny how so much in life today keeps coming back to interpretations. Is it any wonder why so many of us feel few people stand for anything but only to themselves? Is self discipline that hard to maintain? What good is the promise made in a commited relationship if the sacrifices made are few and small.
Lets not romanticize the situation. A nude woman is dancing seductively in front of YOUR man. After her dance on stage, she walks over to YOUR man, smiles and then bends over, sits down on YOUR man's lap and rubs herself on YOUR man and lets YOUR man touch her unmentionables. Then YOUR man takes YOUR money and puts it down HER G string. Then the man YOU love with all of YOUR heart leaves the club, comes home to YOU, tells YOU he loves YOU and then wants to make love to YOU.
Hellllllllllllllllllll Nawwwwwwww
Now to the technicalities. It doesnt matter whether he touches her unmentionables or gets a lap dance or if she's nude or half nude or if he gives her money or not or if thats his money and you have your own or whatever technicalities anyone wants to call out in my example, the principal question is still the same. ... what in the hell is the father of YOUR children, your soulmate, the man you have sworn undying love doing there in the FIRST place? There is a HIGHER level of accountability and representation at the commited level of a relationship. I have heard some women say that men will be men but in THIS case that does not apply. It is NOT harmless for a man to be at the strip club, sippin sizzurp, playing dominos and coming home at 3am in the morning. If he wants that type of lifestyle, why be commited? It's essential that we uphold the esteem and respect held and exhibited for marriages and relationships, no matter how many fall short and we must go beyond the comfort zone of relativities and expect better from our partners.