Staying for the lifestyle? Yay or Nah?

Would you leave a husband and great lifestyle if you found out he is cheating?

  • Yes! I have too much self respect. Buh Bye!

    Votes: 14 53.8%
  • No! Love conquers all. We will get through this together.

    Votes: 3 11.5%
  • Stay for the lifestyle and getting a boyfriend on the side!

    Votes: 9 34.6%

  • Total voters
    26

CurlyMoo

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I was watching the Amy's Baking Company episode on Nightmare Kitchens and started looking for more information and found an article on Gordon Ramsey by a woman who divorced her cheating husband and regretted it because her lifestyle changed so drastically.
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Tana Ramsay's right: It's not worth ending a marriage over a husband's infidelity

It's a view that will enrage many women. But a betrayed wife who bitterly regrets kicking out her husband says Tana would be wrong to ditch her celebrity chef hubby Gordon Ramsay

By Rachel Royce
Updated: 11:44 EST, 1 December 2008

There are some moments in life when the foggy confusion of everyday existence seems to clear and for a fleeting moment you can glimpse your thoughts in bright perspective.

My latest moment came as I was wandering around the polished aisles of Waitrose in Marlborough this week, covered from head to foot in Afghan desert dust.

I had just stepped off a plane from Kandahar, having spent the week in the war zone as part of my job as a reporter for ITV.

I had fearlessly (or actually somewhat fearfully) survived bullets, improvised explosive devices, bumpy rides in the back of Snatch Land Rovers, ice cold showers, Army rations and the Taliban - only to arrive back in Britain and realise there was no one at home to cook my supper, still less to soothe my tattered nerves.

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Rachel Royce (L) says she knows from experience that Tana Ramsay (R)
is correct to stick by her husband, celebrity chef Gordon, despite claims he has been philandering

I am divorced. And sometimes that cruel reality sneaks up when I least expect it, just as it did in the supermarket this week.

'Do you want cash back?' the friendly cashier demanded.

No, I thought, I just want my old life back. I have been divorced for over two years, though I separated from my husband, Rod Liddle, four-and-a-half years ago.

As regular readers of this paper may recall, I had discovered he was having an affair with his office receptionist at the Spectator magazine. At the time, I was absolutely livid. I kicked him out of our home and our marriage never recovered. But now? Now, I just feel a fool for having allowed the affair to destroy my life.

Why didn't I just turn a blind eye to his infidelity? If the extent of his unfaithfulness was a fumble with the office tart, who was the real victim? Was it me, who got to keep the otherwise enviable perks as the wife of a successful man; or was it the mistress, who was treated like the proverbial piece of meat and would doubtless be binned the moment she passed her thrill-by date?
I was too proud, and it cost me

Looking back, I should have been better prepared for the decision I would have to make. There had been a previous encounter, you see. Rod and I had been together for 12 years and he'd already had one affair with a blonde bombshell from his office at the BBC.

He spent most of the week with her in London, pretending to me that early starts meant he couldn't come home to Wiltshire except for flying visits at weekends. When I found out about that affair, I decided to forgive him - after all, he wrote me amazing love letters, promised it wouldn't happen again and even proposed to me on one knee during a thunderstorm in Malaysia.

We went ahead with our lavish wedding.

Then, to my deepest humiliation, it happened again. He began another affair, this time with a stick-thin 22-year-old just as we were getting married. I was left alone on our honeymoon with the children while he flew home to see the new mistress.

I suspected what was going on, of course, and it hurt. A lot. But why, in the months that followed, did I have to press for the truth?

Why did I go to the bother of hiring and firing useless detective agencies to track his movements? Why did I put myself through the stress of sneaking out of bed in the night to check his text messages? Why did I have to rifle through his pockets and find the restaurant receipts and empty Viagra packets that confirmed everything I dreaded?
Why, oh why, couldn't I have just let sleeping dogs lie and let him get on with his tawdry after-work rendezvous in hotel rooms, so long as we still had some semblance of a marriage?

I have been torturing myself with these questions this week because Gordon Ramsay's alleged affair with a woman with the morals of an Amsterdam alley cat has brought my own situation into sharp relief.
Gordon's wife, Tana, is far too sensible to kill the goose that lays the golden egg. She probably knows if her husband has had an affair - or indeed a string of them - and yet she is standing by her man, posing in a traditional show of unity with Gordon outside their £3million Victorian pile by Wandsworth Common and almost managing a smile.

Some have labelled her a doormat, a 'mousewife' who is allowing her apparently errant husband to walk all over her. Me? I say the girl's got brains and more cojones than a Spanish butcher's slab. Why would she want to break up her marriage for the sake of some slapper from south Wales?

Think about it: she is married to one of the sexiest men in Britain, he earns millions of pounds a year, they could probably hire a Caribbean island for their family holidays if they wanted to and they have four beautiful children together.

I was left with more worries than I thought possible

It's not just the money, it's the lifestyle that goes with it. Gordon is feted wherever he goes and no swanky party in Britain would be complete without him. The Ramsays were at newsreader Kirsty Young's 40th birthday party at a posh hotel in Somerset the very morning the story of his affair broke - the staff obligingly scuttled around hiding the Sunday papers.

If Tana were to dump Gordon, she would be tolerated at those parties for precisely a year afterwards - then the invitations would dry up.

Gordon would soon be back on the party circuit with wife number two in tow, everyone would marvel about how beautiful and glamorous the new, much younger wife was, and Tana would be left sipping lukewarm Chardonnay at home alone and wondering where her lifestyle had vanished to.

I know all this, because it happened to me. As Rod's partner I used to be invited to glamorous parties with newsreaders, politicians, comedians, chat-show hosts, newspaper owners, authors, lords and ladies and women who'd once slept with Prince Andrew.
 
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These days, a big night out is a karaoke evening at the Old Bell pub in Warminster. And friends - those mutual friends that we used to see on a regular basis for dinner parties, music nights and holidays - do you suppose they visit me in my three-bedroom draughty terrace house? Or do you think they prefer to go to Rod's nine-bedroom Wiltshire mansion with cottages, grounds and room for 20 Mercedes on the drive?

No competition there then. Still, I don't blame them. He always was a much better cook than me; I'd choose his Moroccan lamb with couscous over my spag bol any time.

The truth is, I gave up my husband through pride and distress, yet I am left with far more anxiety, loneliness and financial worries than I ever dreamt were possible.
Yes, I got a divorce settlement. But forget all that talk about ex-wives walking away from the divorce courts with the lion's share of their husbands' fortune. There are always a few women who are rich enough in their own right to hire the top-notch lawyers who can secure a bumper payout. But most ex-wives struggle to make ends meet.

I am living on a fraction of what Rod and his mistress (now much younger wife) live on. I am constantly worried about bills, I can no longer afford fancy holidays, and I've even taken in a lodger to help make ends meet. She works shifts and when she is up at 5am, I am woken by creaking floorboards above my head.

To top it all, after returning from Afghanistan this week, I learned I was being made redundant by ITV, another sad statistic of our credit crunch economy.

Throughout all this angst, I continue to look after two little boys by myself. Yes, they are a joy and I love them to bits - but how much more enjoyable was their childhood when an enthusiastic daddy took them to football matches and watched them with pride instead of a mother who never liked football anyway and would much rather be having a lie-in while hubby took care of the boy things in life.

I'm no good at keepy-uppys, I don't know how to play computer games, I can't jam a quick Pink Floyd riff on my son's guitar, however much he might plead me to. And, oh, the guilt - the heavy weight of shame I feel every time I read another newspaper article saying my darling sons are more likely to end up involved in drugs and crime because they have a single mummy rather than a smug married one to take care of them.

It may be taboo to admit it, but how I wish I'd taken a leaf out of the books of those other married women who have swallowed their pride and stood by their philandering husbands and seen their marriages survive.

Going against feminist idealism

Victoria Beckham didn't miss a beat when the papers claimed David had an affair with the aptly named Rebecca Loos - she stuck out her pointy little chin, clung winningly on to his arm and categorically denied that her husband would ever do anything so low.

She fooled no one, of course - least of all herself. But what dividends her strategy has paid! A multi-million-pound contract in Los Angeles for David, a new career in fashion for Posh, and still they are Brand Beckham.

Victoria was not the first to stand by her man, of course - there have been countless examples of women turning a blind eye to their philandering husbands over the centuries. Indeed, it's only relatively recently that anyone has thought it mattered if husbands had affairs at all.

Tudor and Georgian London were simply dripping with prostitutes who gladly took on the physical exertions of the bedroom, while the wives busied themselves with the far more refined pleasures that 'marrying well' afforded them.

It was perhaps only with Queen Victoria and her devoted love of Albert that the notion that husbands and wives must commit themselves to each other exclusively and for ever caught on.


Marina Johnson, who stayed with her husband, London Mayor Boris Johnson, despite his errant ways

I don't dispute that there may be many millions of couples who willingly and happily remain faithful to one another until their dying days. It is entirely right that we celebrate their achievement and encourage our own children to strive for that kind of enduring relationship.

But what about those marriages that fail to live up to that romantic ideal; that stumble at the fence of human experience; that are burdened by disappointments and compromise? Is it better that they are broken up? Or is a more flexible solution preferable? On reflection, I've come to admire the example set by Jane Clark, wife of the late Tory MP and notorious philanderer Alan Clark. Jane put up with a string of affairs, including the famous fling with the Harkess mother and daughters. (She knew it was pointless trying to make Alan change his ways. And, in the scale of human happiness, her anger at his sexual indiscretions was outweighed by the lifestyle, freedoms and status she was afforded as his wife.)

More recently still, Marina Johnson, wife of London Mayor Boris, made her errant husband sleep on the sofa for . . . ooh, roughly one night after news of his affair with a work colleague broke before it was back to 'business as usual'.
And then there's the marvellous Pauline Prescott, determined not to allow her discovery of John's extramarital activities to interfere with the delivery of a new bathroom suite. Marvellous.

Why go to all that trouble of procuring, netting and landing a fine catch to have someone else run off with the goods?

Oh, I know my view will horrify most British women (though in many continental countries it would be regarded as the norm). Certainly, it goes against every fibre of feminist idealism. If I were to tell it to my wide-eyed and innocent younger self, I, too, would be shocked and appalled.

And, of course, it's true that there are some men whose behaviour is so abhorrent that it is not only right but essential that their wives should leave them and seek a better life elsewhere. But the fact is, most unfaithful men make at least some attempt to keep their affair secret from their wife - indeed, often they continue loving them as before, perhaps more so.

Was Rod one of those men? I'll never know. What I do know is that when I tell my friends I regret kicking him out, they are shocked.

They chide me and remind me of what I have gained. I no longer have to put up with a husband who lies to me, who shouts at me when I question his absences. They tell me: 'At least you don't have to wonder who he is with every night.'

But that's just it: I don't have to wonder because I know where he is - he is with her and not me. And the sad truth is, in my own experience, a philandering husband is better than no husband at all.

Why does no one tell you this? Answer: because just as in Jane Austen's day, women still hanker after marrying some Mr Darcy who will sweep them off their feet for an eternity of mutual adoration.

Well, sometimes, here in the real world, the ending doesn't work out as we hoped.

We never did find out what happened to Elizabeth Bennet after the wedding, but you can bet my redundancy pay cheque she wouldn't have ditched her fine gowns and stately home if she'd caught Darcy fondling the kitchen maid.
 
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Gordon Ramsay: The benefits of staying in a marriage

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Gordon Ramsay with Tana after news broke of his alleged seven-year secret affair with Sarah Symonds

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Marina Johnson, who stayed with her husband, London Mayor Boris Johnson, despite his errant ways
 
Wow. I'm surprised someone admitted that.
Everyone places a premium on something and "the lifestyle" is hers. If I could put my heart in an expensive purse maybe. My health and peace of mind are priceless.
 
I'm going to preface what I'm going to say with I don't believe all men cheat and to my knowledge I've never been cheated on.

BF/GF - I wouldn't stay.

Married - Depends on how many people outside of the marriage know. If only me, him and side chick know, the marriage is salvageable. But if I was in Paula Patton's shoes and the whole world saw my husband digging his hand up some chicks a--, we can't fix that. Even if it was on a lower scale where maybe it's not the whole world, but my friends and family know - it can't be fixed. I have a very small margin of public humiliation that I can live with.
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I know me and while I could put up with quite a bit to live comfortably, I'm also petty. If I am hurt and embarrassed, dude is going to catch all kinds of hell so the relationship would probably fall apart on it's own.
 
I sort of understand her. I know of a French woman who lives like that. She's been married for ages, but her husband lives with his mistress since many years. The wife lives her life with lovers and friends, lazy lunches and shopping. She's not giving up the sahw lifestyle anytime soon.
 
A guy I know chose one woman over another in part because of the lifestyle he had with her but he really loved the other girlfriend. The one he married just "fit" better. You never REALLY know what you would do until faced with losing the bags, travel, cars, clout and all other perks associated with being Mrs. Pimp. I hope I have the courage to put me first.....
 
Welp, I'm a Virgo and I can understand what she's saying. I will say that women I know IRL have said that divorcing felt great at the time, but as the years went by, they regretted giving up their "life". I remember thinking, but he cheated on you! You're supposed to pack up and leave. Well, now I know that it's not that easy.

Judge all you want, but I'm glad someone admitted what a lot of women were thinking.

And heck, one woman told me that she should've stayed married to her husband for the lifestyle and to make him pay for cheating on her. I didn't ask how she would've made him pay, but I get it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah it's not emotionally healthy to do this yada, yada, yada. But, I've seen it done and the women who stayed came out winning from their perspective.

If dh hurt me like that, I could see removing all emotion from our relationship for a while and staying married until he either got over dealing with the new me, divorced me, or died. I might come around eventually. :look: Not my fault he cheated. Deal with it. I ain't goin' no damn where. :lol:
 
Regrets or not, I would not give my philandering ex-hubby and former mistress/current wife the satisfaction of knowing all this.

There ain't that much truth in the world :lol:
 
I'm going to go for the non philandering type from the beginning to offset this kind of problem. She herself knew her husband to be was a cheater before they were married. Men like this do not just "surprise" you with their indiscretions. Sure there are the "surprise" type who you never thought would cheat, but to me it would be better to look for a man who doesn't want to, and hasn't cheated in the past than to step into a landmine with a cheating type like the women whose husbands are mentioned in this article. That way cheating isn't expected. If it happens, it happens because you can't predict everything, but it's still less likely than with a womanizing type guy.

Her thoughts are interesting because everyone can't have a fairytale ending of course...but I'm not so sure if she didn't set herself up for failure by marrying the type of man she did in the first place. Maybe the question should be the choices you make in a mate from the beginning which can lead to perhaps a happier marriage where one doesn't have to ponder turning a blind eye to every yahoo that walks past their husband's wandering eye.

I understand what she's trying to say but I'm just not about that life.
 
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Honestly my take on this is that the author completely gave her identity up to her husband and marriage.
She had no income of her own to support herself and her children.
She made no wealthy contacts or friendships of her own to continue to be invited to the parties.
She was not proactive enough in the circle to maintain the lifestyle.

This makes me think of Katie Holmes now that she is divorced from Tom Cruise and how her PR hurried up and got her the cover of magazines and a make over to keep her relevant in the entertainment industry.
 
I get it. If I was used to living that lifestyle and didn't have the means to keep it up on my own, I could see weighing the pros and cons and making a rational decision about it. *shrug* I can't say for sure what I'd do because you can't really know unless you're in it, but yeah I'd weigh it.
 
I feel bad for her - I completely see what she means BUT the marriage sounded terrible she needs to move on and find a more loving man - she probably is more upset at being alone than anything
 
I would leave on my own terms and make sure I had all of my ducks in a row. I would not be struggling, nor would I be poor, no m'am. Good thing I don't care about invites, hooplah, and all that crap. All I need is a few good friends, and I'm good. I'd be very stealth though to insure me and my kids had financial security. I believe in love, loyalty, trust, and peace of mind. I need those things more than the clout and perks of being married to someone rich and/or famous.
 
I'd stay and stack coins as long as I deemed necessary. I wouldn't stay forever though. Just long enough to have investments so that I could live off the entrance. And if it was a beautiful woman who had a bad past he was having an affair with, get some dirt so I can use it against her when she finds a man she really wants to marry.
 
I sort of understand her. I know of a French woman who lives like that. She's been married for ages, but her husband lives with his mistress since many years. The wife lives her life with lovers and friends, lazy lunches and shopping. She's not giving up the sahw lifestyle anytime soon.

I See that a bit differently. It seems they both have their own thing and he's paying to say he has a wife. I get why she's staying.

I'm too sensitive. I could stay, but it'd kill me. But I'd try to be smart about how I made my exit.
 
I wouldn't stay first the lifestyle being married to a BROKE cheating ninja. Which is what I did. Leave.

Millions? I'd be hesitant. I'd save a few mil on the side, have a stealth secret attorney (and side piece too. Its good for the goose, right?) and roll out eventually. But roll out rich AF.
 
I think some women leave too quickly due to pride and emotions. You can tell these women truly loved their husbands. She would have been better off with a faithful, average Joe.

That's why the best match for any of these wealthy, philandering men is a gold digger. Those women already have an exit plan set up just in case. They never allow themselves to get too emotionally invested in the relationship because they know it isn't worth it. They are too busy reading up on how to secure themselves financially for when he does cheat. A gold digger would have walked away from the marriage with millions in assets and a new set of breasts funded by her ex husband for her new, younger boy toy to enjoy. She'd be on the beach right now drinking a daiquiri while writing a female empowerment book/blog instead of pining away for love lost.

No wonder men hate gold diggers.
 
I would leave on my own terms and make sure I had all of my ducks in a row. I would not be struggling, nor would I be poor, no m'am. Good thing I don't care about invites, hooplah, and all that crap. All I need is a few good friends, and I'm good. I'd be very stealth though to insure me and my kids had financial security. I believe in love, loyalty, trust, and peace of mind. I need those things more than the clout and perks of being married to someone rich and/or famous.



That's why the best match for any of these wealthy, philandering men is a gold digger. Those women already have an exit plan set up just in case. They never allow themselves to get too emotionally invested in the relationship because they know it isn't worth it. They are too busy reading up on how to secure themselves financially for when he does cheat. A gold digger would have walked away from the marriage with millions in assets and a new set of breasts funded by her ex husband for her new, younger boy toy to enjoy. She'd be on the beach right now drinking a daiquiri while writing a female empowerment book/blog instead of pining away for love lost.

No wonder men hate gold diggers.

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This pathetic little woman is talking about how she misses parties while taking jabs at mistresses.:rolleyes: I'm not sure if she needs therapy or if she's too shallow for it to matter, but A) she knew he was a cheat and it made no sense to marry him and B) if she didn't come away with anything, she did it all wrong.
 
I think some women leave too quickly due to pride and emotions. You can tell these women truly loved their husbands. She would have been better off with a faithful, average Joe.

That's why the best match for any of these wealthy, philandering men is a gold digger. Those women already have an exit plan set up just in case. They never allow themselves to get too emotionally invested in the relationship because they know it isn't worth it. They are too busy reading up on how to secure themselves financially for when he does cheat. A gold digger would have walked away from the marriage with millions in assets and a new set of breasts funded by her ex husband for her new, younger boy toy to enjoy. She'd be on the beach right now drinking a daiquiri while writing a female empowerment book/blog instead of pining away for love lost.

No wonder men hate gold diggers.

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Your post cracked me up.
I agree, some women are meant for the average Joe and others can handle a wealthy man.
I think she us kicking herself because she is struggling and unhappy.

I really do think when women enter into a marriage or relationship with an extremely wealthy man you have to have a certain king of mental capacity.
Meaning very clever, aware and shrewd.
I'm not saying don't love him but there is so much temptation thrown at these guys because they are wealthy.
You have to be able to deal with that.
 
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This pathetic little woman is talking about how she misses parties while taking jabs at mistresses.:rolleyes: I'm not sure if she needs therapy or if she's too shallow for it to matter, but A) she knew he was a cheat and it made no sense to marry him and B) if she didn't come away with anything, she did it all wrong.

Some women just know how to handle wealthy men. Full stop.
 
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Your post cracked me up.
I agree, some women are meant for the average Joe and others can handle a wealthy man.
I think she us kicking herself because she is struggling and unhappy.

I really do think when women enter into a marriage or relationship with an extremely wealthy man you have to have a certain king of mental capacity.
Meaning very clever, aware and shrewd.
I'm not saying don't love him but there is so much temptation thrown at these guys because they are wealthy.
You have to be able to deal with that.
There are wealthy cheats and wealthy faithful men just as there are broke and average joe cheats and faithful. I think in her case it was glaringly obvious that he cheats. I don't think you have to deal with cheating to deal with a wealthy man. It depends on the kind you choose.:look:
 
I'd leave. My sanity, dignity and happiness are worth so much more. I cannot live with someone who I cannot trust.
 
I would be mean and hateful nothing good would come of that but I would stay if I were a gold digger and my mind was on the money. It wouldn't matter what he did because my only concern would be my needs and I'd play the game until I didn't need his money but I don't see how I could love him. Nope, this wouldn't work for me.

More power to the women who are able to stay.

The one caveat that I do have is if he could help realize a dream, for example Hilary Clinton. If I could take something useful from all that pain to make my self happy I would but I can't say I would stay after I got what wanted from the relationship.
 
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Once I realized he was a cheat I would begin to accrue my own assets and his money for a rainy day. She acted to quickly on her emotions and made a mess of her own life. She knew exactly who she married.
 
I exposed this one guy to his wife after I found out he was married. The only reason I did it is because I knew they had two kids and he was an NYU Professor affording her a pretty nice lifestyle. I figured she wasn't leaving because there was no way she could afford providing for two young kids in Manhattan on her own, so I wasn't worried about being in the middle for ending their marriage. Two years later and I see they are still together, just as I expected. I guess I reasoned this because I wouldn't have left him either if I was being provided a really nice lifestyle.
 
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