This year, I wanna work on making some real, genuine true friends. That was a goal from last year that I never really achieved. I miss that feeling of being around people who truly understand you and don't judge. It'd be a huge bonus if they liked to read as well. I read books everyday. different kinds--celebrity memoirs; mental health; classics; african american romance; interracial romance; cozy mysteries; queer romance and women's fiction to name a few. But romance has to be my favorite.

I also wanna try different restaurants and activities around town. I'm actually going to my first concert in a few weeks!
 

Interesting article about dating and language of therapy.

Sucks that some men are putting that they are in therapy on their profile to get more views/clicks not because they are truly growing/learning from the sessions :nono:

TERMS OF ENDEARMENT

How the Language of Therapy Took Over Dating​

In a time when emotional maturity is highly desirable, almost everyone is “doing the work.”

  • Give this article


An illustration of a black heart surrounded by therapy-related terms, such as, “trauma-bond,” “triggered” and “love bombing.”

Credit...Illustrations by Marta Cerdà Alimbau
Dani Blum
By Dani Blum
Feb. 11, 2023

When Lauren Scott was bored, dating became a remedy. It could be draining, droning and repetitive. At wine bars and picnics and miniature golf courses and ice cream parlors, she churned out answers about her cybersecurity classes and her taste in music. Still, it was something to do. Ms. Scott, a 23-year-old graduate student in Tampa, Fla., slogged through roughly 34 first dates last year, sometimes stacking three in a week.
One, in particular, seemed like it could lead somewhere. The guy texted her incessantly. He said he missed her. He claimed that he told his family about her. But, after a night spent making pizza and half-watching a movie on Ms. Scott’s couch, he stopped replying to her text messages.
Ms. Scott vented about this on a phone call with her mother, who offered a diagnosis: The guy, she said, had “love bombed” her daughter.

Ms. Scott laughed. “I was like, how do you even know that word?” she said. Her mother heard the term, a description of narcissistic abuse, on the radio.

Image

Dating comes with its own dictionary, a collection of buzzwords like “breadcrumbing,” “zombie-ing” and, of course, “ghosting.” But in recent years, psychology terms like “love bombing,” “gaslighting” and “trauma bonding” have also wedged their way into the lexicon. Hinge, a popular dating app, still lets users post sunglass-clad selfies and proclaim their love for espresso martinis. But now they can also respond to prompts like “Therapy recently taught me___,” “A boundary of mine is___” and “My therapist would say I___.”
Becca Love, a 40-year-old clothing designer and dance teacher in Montreal who uses the pronouns they and them, often asks dating app matches, What does connection look like to you? Around the third date, they initiate discussions about their prospective partner’s “attachment style,” a tidy summation of childhood trauma.

This terminology isn’t unusual. Therapy-related words and phrases have trickled into workplaces, surfaced at schools and galvanized people online. But the proliferation of these terms among daters represents a distinct shift. “In the ’50s, or even the ’80s, it would be hard to imagine that saying ‘I see my therapist regularly’ would have status,” said Eli Finkel, a psychology professor at Northwestern University and the author of “The All-or-Nothing Marriage.” But now, he said, taking care of one’s mental health carries social currency in some spheres.
Even before dating app matches meet in person, “You’re asking, ‘What’s your job, where are you from, what’s your love language?’” said Ianthe Humphries, a 24-year-old marketer in New York. But some skeptics think that the more people deploy these terms, the less they may actually mean. And therapeutic lingo may be just another tool daters use to try to distinguish themselves to prospective matches.

“This is part of the competitive advantage,” said Paul Eastwick, a psychology professor at the University of California, Davis, who researches romantic relationships. “Instead of being like, ‘I’m 5-11, and I can bench press some large amount,’ it’s like, ‘I have grappled with the challenges of my childhood, and I’ve thought deeply about my issues,’” he said.

Image

‘Selling mental health’​

For the last 12 years, Helen Fisher, a biological anthropologist, a senior research fellow at the Kinsey Institute and chief science adviser for Match.com, has led a study researching the behavior and attitudes of single people in the United States. The study, Singles in America, which is conducted by Match, surveys approximately 5,000 Americans (not Match members) every year. In 2022, Dr. Fisher was stunned by one finding. She asked participants to rank what they were looking for in a prospective partner, expecting the usual answers: sexual attractiveness, trustworthiness, humor and similar interests. This time, however, another characteristic made the top five list. Respondents wanted matches with emotional maturity, the ability to process and grapple with one’s feelings.
“I’m a baby boomer,” Dr. Fisher said. “In the ’60s and ’70s, this is not what we were trying to sell. We were trying to sell intelligence and being fun and being creative and being career oriented. Now they’re selling mental health.”
Selling has always been a part of courtship. People broadcast their assets — looks, humor, charm — in a de facto competition, one that was heightened, or at least clarified, by the arrival of dating apps. In the 2010s, when they began to take off, users flattened their interests to appeal to as many matches as possible, said Jess Carbino, a former sociologist for Tinder and Bumble. Many opted for generic, inoffensive tidbits, she said, calling them the “‘I love SoulCycle, brunch and my aunt’s dog’ profiles.”
In recent years, though, the signaling has switched. A growing number of people now broadcast intimate, specific details, including proclamations about their mental health, Dr. Carbino said. It’s a technique used both to signal your values and to weed people out, she said — if therapy is essential to you, for example, you might not want to date someone who’s never been.

Referencing therapy can also convey status in a more literal sense, Capri Campeau, a 23-year-old actor and content creator in Los Angeles, explained. It can serve as proof that you have financial means to receive care at a time when providers are in demand and that you can clear out the space and time, said Mx. Campeau, who uses both they and them and she and her pronouns.
Being transparent about therapy also imbues you with a certain cultural cachet, said Carolina Bandinelli, an associate professor at the University of Warwick in England who studies romance and digital culture. It suggests that you’ve done “the work.” In other words, you’re enlightened, the best version of yourself. “It’s part of this discourse of self-optimization,” Dr. Bandinelli said.
And for heterosexual men, in particular, the lingo of psychoanalysis has an added benefit: It can help dispute stereotypes about men avoiding their emotions, Dr. Bandinelli said.
“It seems to be a cheat code men are using,” said Jared Freid, 37, a comedian and podcast host in New York City, who’s combed through thousands of questions and stories from listeners in his 10 years of hosting podcasts about dating. “Men are writing ‘I go to therapy’ on dating apps only because it gets them more women,” he said. “It’s not because they love their therapist.”

Image

Nonprofessionals can get it wrong​

Videos and infographics about dating clog Kailah Chavis’s TikTok and Instagram feeds: instructions on how to avoid a love bomber, spot a narcissist or assert boundaries with romantic partners. “I’m always hearing about your ‘inner child,’ ‘healing your inner child,’” said Ms. Chavis, a 24-year-old in Los Angeles.

To Ms. Chavis, people repeat the language they learn from social media, where people, especially women, swap tips on how to recognize the signs of potential manipulation. Sometimes, these come from actual therapists; often, the advice is given by anyone with a front-facing camera.
Dr. Jessi Gold, a psychiatrist at Washington University in St. Louis and a member of the American Psychiatric Association’s Council on Communications, isn’t surprised that psychological language has trickled into everyday conversation. “In some ways, it’s always been the case that people are using the terms in ways that a clinician wouldn’t,” she said. Speaking about mental illness, in general, can help destigmatize conditions like anxiety and depression, she said, and good can come from being vulnerable with a new partner.
There are, however, clear downsides to learning a therapy term via TikTok video or meme, namely that nonprofessionals can get it wrong. The term “trauma bonded,” in particular, is tossed around to signify connecting with someone over shared struggles; the clinical definition of the term refers to a specific pattern of abuse.
This language can also provide a convenient excuse to write someone off. “I find a lot of the times, it gives people leverage,” said Edward Nyamenkum, a 29-year-old art director in Montreal. “It makes people feel OK when they ghost someone, like, ‘They’re obviously toxic,’ without giving them a chance.”
And when people misuse these words, deploying a weighty term like “gaslighting” to describe more banal, everyday turmoils that come with dating, those who actually experience abuse have less of a voice, Dr. Bandinelli said. This “explosion of diagnostic language,” as she called it, provides blanket, simple language for what are often complex and specific conundrums that come with modern dating.
“There’s this sense that using jargon that’s pseudoscientific somehow makes our argument stronger,” Dr. Bandinelli said. If someone acts like a jerk, she said, that may be just be one person’s opinion. “But if you’re ‘gaslighting me’ or ‘love bombing me,’ that makes it objective,” she said.

Mx. Campeau, the 23-year-old actor, saw the language of therapy surge while they were dating and has tried to temper the urge to overuse it in their relationship. When Mx. Campeau leaves a mound of dishes in the sink, for example, a behavior that they said reminded their girlfriend of a particularly messy ex, they avoid using words like “triggered.” Instead, they discuss why the dishes can make their girlfriend think about her ex.
“It’s been really helpful for us to try to use language to connect with each other,” Mx. Campeau said, “instead of just using words to judge.”
 
I just found out 3 marriages, one where I attended the wedding have now ended in divorce. With social media and the current toxic dating climate I wonder if our best days of healthy relationships are behind us.

There’s a guy chatting me up on eharmony who said he’s been on there for 9 years. He said he’s mainly been having 6 month relationships here and there. Some of these men are just on these apps to hang out and waste people’s time. Like sir that app is too expensive to just be chatting and chilling.
 
Last edited:
Is it common for people to ghost when they are starting to catch feelings? Like everything going well, they proclaim they’ve never felt a certain certain way with someone then almost immediately afterwards hocus pocus they disappear lol. I know there can be a million reasons but just want to know if this one is common. People need to know and confess their attachment styles before dating.
 
How about married men leave single women alone. They act more single than single men. And what is that on his finger lol?


What an imbecile. The last thing on earth I would take advice from. Can’t even speak simple English.

Exactly at the bold! Those same married men are creating profiles on dating websites, moving with no wedding ring and/or moving thru life like they are single and approaching us. We ain’t seeking out that trash!
 
What an imbecile. The last thing on earth I would take advice from. Can’t even speak simple English.

Exactly at the bold! Those same married men are creating profiles on dating websites, moving with no wedding ring and/or moving thru life like they are single and approaching us. We ain’t seeking out that trash!

Unfortunately some women don't mind.

While I don't care for this approach, I now explicitly ask men, "are you single", "Do you have any children / how many children do you have?" at the beginning of my conversations now. It kinda kills the vibe. But, I prefer that than engaging with someone with a whole baby on the way.

Bonus: Just the other day, I was in McDonalds and was approached by a man with 4 happy meals in his hand. No sir. Even if you are single, I think it's best you focus on your brood.
 
Just saw the 3 date rule play out. A guy just ended the dating stage tonight saying let’s just be friends. He named a few reasons but his final reason ended up being he “wants some” and he has needs. He was talking about a 4th date in the car but once I turned down his invitation to head back to his place for sex he changed up. I’m relieved because I was already losing interest so he did me a favor and I am grateful. Then after we talked in the car for a while he changed his mind saying he thinks he wants a 4th date and then he proceeds to ask me to be his girlfriend lol (he felt that an immediate title would get him sex quicker). I declined. Bye sir, stay toxic.
 
It's hard dating out here but I'm still hopeful. I've been kinda single since the pandemic mainly bc Im never outside . WFH is a gift and a curse bc I honestly don't want to be bothered most days. And I'm in such a peaceful and content place. It would be shame if someone messes that up. Mourning the recent loss of my grandma hasn't helped. I wish I had the same discernment that I have now in my 20's I would more than likely be married by now. But we live and we learn. Not sure if I'll start dating this year because of everything mentioned on page 1004 its tough out here.
 
decided to focus on myself for the unforseeable future. I'm not dating until I get my life together (I still have school for another year and a half; working on prereqs to get into accelerated nursing program). Hoping to land a great job with awesome benefits once school is done.

I changed my hair, yall! I'm now loc'd and loving it! haircare is so simple now since my loctician does everything for me. I'll be 2 months loc'd on april 25th!

I'm into makeup somewhat. I love a good lipgloss. I like the Nyx butter gloss but I wanna try the fenty lipgloss.
 
Girl just...
:meditate:
...and woosah
the bull :censored: away

Lol it was a post about a 106 year old black lady who recently got married but turns out the article was fake and her image was AI generated so I deleted it.

But yeah I need to woosah for personal reasons so your message still applies, thank you lol
 
This thread has been quiet lately. Either y’all are in happy and healthy relationships or we have collectively agreed that men suck and are a waste of keystrokes. I’m with the latter.

Eta: Imagine someone telling you I don’t see anything long term leading to something serious and mentioning things they don’t like about you and then 2 hours later sending a song saying I’m thinking of you and still wanting to go on a date. Things were fine until I mentioned the other day that I need more in form of consistent contact and he took it personally. He believes 1-2 phone calls a week is too demanding lol. He wouldn’t admit it but I think he was offended because he took me expressing my needs from him as criticism. I turned down the date and told him I don’t feel emotionally safe to continue dating. He’s about to feel my absence real bad and I will make sure of it. He doesn’t have a lot of dating experience so he’s in the spoiled and taking me for granted phase. Good luck buddy!
 
Last edited:
This thread has been quiet lately. Either y’all are in happy and healthy relationships or we have collectively agreed that men suck and are a waste of keystrokes. I’m with the latter.
:lachen:

Literally reactivated my profile earlier tonight. The last two men I met online were nice enough; we just didn't work out. The last relationship ended in February, so it's time to get back out there. I'm optimistic.
 
I have been single 15 yrs and my hope of dating and being loved properly is realistic optimistic. The more I reflect I allowed myself to adopt beliefs that are hyper limiting which has added to my yrs.
 
This thread has been quiet lately. Either y’all are in happy and healthy relationships or we have collectively agreed that men suck and are a waste of keystrokes. I’m with the latter.

Eta: Imagine someone telling you I don’t see anything long term leading to something serious and mentioning things they don’t like about you and then 2 hours later sending a song saying I’m thinking of you and still wanting to go on a date. Things were fine until I mentioned the other day that I need more in form of consistent contact and he took it personally. He believes 1-2 phone calls a week is too demanding lol. He wouldn’t admit it but I think he was offended because he took me expressing my needs from him as criticism. I turned down the date and told him I don’t feel emotionally safe to continue dating. He’s about to feel my absence real bad and I will make sure of it. He doesn’t have a lot of dating experience so he’s in the spoiled and taking me for granted phase. Good luck buddy!
I don’t think men suck, but I have better use of my body, time, energy, and resources. I have said this before and I’ll say it again, I love being celibate. It’s liberating. I enjoy my peace and my space. I feel much safer too.
 
Back
Top