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What surprising info did you realize once going natural?
Myths about Natural or Growing Natural Hair
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gabrielle2 said: but people are simply disspelling the myth that...you CANT get a man wearing nappy hair/twas/afros..etc.
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OK, but are they saying that you CANT? Or that the Majority still like long hair?
That's what I mean by sharing the whole story.
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I may not be understanding correctly. But it sounds like you are saying "natural hair" does not grow long...is that correct?
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No, I'm sorry, I meant to say long/straight hair. Usually due to shrinkage a foot hair turns into 1/2 a foot.
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gabrielle2 said: but people are simply disspelling the myth that...you CANT get a man wearing nappy hair/twas/afros..etc.
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OK, but are they saying that you CANT? Or that the Majority still like long hair?
That's what I mean by sharing the whole story.
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I may not be understanding correctly. But it sounds like you are saying "natural hair" does not grow long...is that correct?
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No, I'm sorry, I meant to say long/straight hair. Usually due to shrinkage a foot hair turns into 1/2 a foot.
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patience said:
Sillygurl-
I don't think she was trying to be mean either. However, when someone details THEIR experience and someone comments that they aren't being completely honest, it DOES come off the wrong way.
That being said, Can we recapture the positivity of this thread?
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yeah really... I thought this thread was about the positives of natural hair
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Sillygurl-
I don't think she was trying to be mean either. However, when someone details THEIR experience and someone comments that they aren't being completely honest, it DOES come off the wrong way.
That being said, Can we recapture the positivity of this thread?
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yeah really... I thought this thread was about the positives of natural hair
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sillygurl18 said:
People calling people liars and Anti-Natural.
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Sillygurl. ??
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People calling people liars and Anti-Natural.
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Sillygurl. ??
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What surprising info did you realize once going natural?
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Country gal
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JenJen2721 said:
The truth is that natural hair is beautiful and it's a beautiful thing seeing women that can do some many things with natural hair. I thought that's what this thread was all about. Right?
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That was my intention for starting the thread. I wanted to address the myths that I have heard about natural hair.
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The truth is that natural hair is beautiful and it's a beautiful thing seeing women that can do some many things with natural hair. I thought that's what this thread was all about. Right?
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That was my intention for starting the thread. I wanted to address the myths that I have heard about natural hair.
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it was going soooooooooooooo good. i guess it REALLY is a TRUTH and not a MYTH..all good things must come to an end.
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Gabrielle, that is kinda sad, but unfortunately there are people on the board rather than state thier sentiment they twist people's post I feel in an attempt to start trouble. Should we keep our opninion of a subject quiet because some people take things differently. OUt of all the disagreements and closed threads should'nt we have learned by now to respect others opinion.
It does'nt have to end, if people don't understand what you've said ASK, like a couple of people here have done, Pookeylou, for example said, "is this what your saying" rather than just going off on tangent. But I do understand that everyone is not gonna be respectful, some people enjoy mess and gettin threads closed.
Not that is sad. But this is the internet.
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it was going soooooooooooooo good. i guess it REALLY is a TRUTH and not a MYTH..all good things must come to an end.
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Gabrielle, that is kinda sad, but unfortunately there are people on the board rather than state thier sentiment they twist people's post I feel in an attempt to start trouble. Should we keep our opninion of a subject quiet because some people take things differently. OUt of all the disagreements and closed threads should'nt we have learned by now to respect others opinion.
It does'nt have to end, if people don't understand what you've said ASK, like a couple of people here have done, Pookeylou, for example said, "is this what your saying" rather than just going off on tangent. But I do understand that everyone is not gonna be respectful, some people enjoy mess and gettin threads closed.
Not that is sad. But this is the internet.
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What surprising info did you realize once going natural?
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Assuming that this question is for naturals...
I realized...
that some people really are content in their ignorance because they choose to not know what exactly they are putting in their bodies and on their heads.
that some people truly do have self hate issues.
that everyone has an opinion about something but that it's up to me to determine whether or not their opinion of me is important ENOUGH for me to allow it into my personal realm.
that how I think and feel about myself will ALWAYS be more important than what anyone else feels or thinks about me.
that everyone does not like nor accept natural hair and that's okay...that's their issue, not mine.
that I'm stronger than I even knew I was...
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What surprising info did you realize once going natural?
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Assuming that this question is for naturals...
I realized...
that some people really are content in their ignorance because they choose to not know what exactly they are putting in their bodies and on their heads.
that some people truly do have self hate issues.
that everyone has an opinion about something but that it's up to me to determine whether or not their opinion of me is important ENOUGH for me to allow it into my personal realm.
that how I think and feel about myself will ALWAYS be more important than what anyone else feels or thinks about me.
that everyone does not like nor accept natural hair and that's okay...that's their issue, not mine.
that I'm stronger than I even knew I was...
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In an effort to keep the peace I think she was just saying that it maybe should have been written(for example)
Myth: Natural hair is hard to manage
Truth: While for some people it may be hard to manage at first, it does get easier when you know how to take care of natural hair.
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YES, Proof positive that EVERYONE does not take things the wrong way.
Thank you girl. That was exactly what I said in my post... When we omit something from a statement it can be construed as dishonest..
*whew*.. That proves my point.
Thanx Sillygurl.
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In an effort to keep the peace I think she was just saying that it maybe should have been written(for example)
Myth: Natural hair is hard to manage
Truth: While for some people it may be hard to manage at first, it does get easier when you know how to take care of natural hair.
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Thank you girl. That was exactly what I said in my post... When we omit something from a statement it can be construed as dishonest..
*whew*.. That proves my point.
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Country gal
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So the wavy hair I am seeing at my roots is not my true natural hair.
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I think some hair looks that way at first, but when I grows out it becomes curly
sassygirl125
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Pebbles, Jr!
I was surprised that my hair was so easy to manage once I stopped using the same products and techniques that I used on my relaxed hair.
I said this before, but I was suprised that I had so many style options. Being able to create them is a different story.
But at least I have picture proof that it can be done.
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Pebbles, Jr!
I was surprised that my hair was so easy to manage once I stopped using the same products and techniques that I used on my relaxed hair.
I said this before, but I was suprised that I had so many style options. Being able to create them is a different story.
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For me my relaxed hair was much more of a hassle than my natural hair. I was relaxed for many more years than I was natural but now I'm just thankful that I had the courage to over-look a lot of ignorant comments and be true to myself.I think people who still relax their hair with great results should keep doing whats working for them.Relaxing just was'nt "ME" anymore. But whatever we choose to do with our hair, we should'nt have to listen to a bunch of "STATIC" in our ears! But as long as there are "myths" about AA hair, sadly we will!
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What surprising info did you realize once going natural?
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Pebbles, Jr!
I was surprised that my hair was so easy to manage once I stopped using the same products and techniques that I used on my relaxed hair.
I said this before, but I was suprised that I had so many style options. Being able to create them is a different story.
But at least I have picture proof that it can be done.
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So so true!!!!
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sillygurl18 said:
What surprising info did you realize once going natural?
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Pebbles, Jr!
I was surprised that my hair was so easy to manage once I stopped using the same products and techniques that I used on my relaxed hair.
I said this before, but I was suprised that I had so many style options. Being able to create them is a different story.
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So so true!!!!
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I realized that I didn't need a perm b/c my hair is beautiful the way it comes out of my head.
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I realized that I didn't need a perm b/c my hair is beautiful the way it comes out of my head.
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pookeylou said:
Why...someone please tell me why...
Why is it that when a natural thread is started...and the naturals defend THEIR experience...it turns into drama and we need eduction on how we word things?
If there is a format for wording a natural question so that others will not be offended...will someone please forward it to me so that I can state things properly and cover ALL scenarios?
It is disheartening that a thread like this...that was going so well and so uplifting and encourageing and helping us naturals not to feel ALONE... has to be chastised because we used the word MYTH.
It really hurts.
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Pookeylou, I'm sorry. And again that was not the intent. I guess we should'nt post in Natural theards, then and vice versa.
I do sense the honesty in your posts.
I think this happens because those who choose not to straighten thier hair anymore, put through a sense that they are better, and that may not be the intent at all, but that's how it comes across by some, not all.
It's kinda like quittin smoking and calling non smokers stinky addicted fools.
Or losing weight and callin fat people, gross.
Because it is also a misconception that people straighten to be non-black or hate thier natural hair. But you are right, I won't post or read in Natural threads anymore. Cause it is redundant. It all boils down to choice. None is better than the other.
I just don't see Relaxed threads that compare "myths" or carry as much controversy.
My only intent in posting was just what I said. I really do'nt want those considering to stop straigtening to have false hope that it's all a bed of roses.
Peace ladies.
Now the mature people will understand that If I stop posting it's cause I'm being mature and don't want to further breed any problem. While others will view it as I posted to start something then leave.
I mean what is one supposed to do. Why can't we just state or opinion, without people feelin bad.?
pookeylou said:
Why...someone please tell me why...
Why is it that when a natural thread is started...and the naturals defend THEIR experience...it turns into drama and we need eduction on how we word things?
If there is a format for wording a natural question so that others will not be offended...will someone please forward it to me so that I can state things properly and cover ALL scenarios?
It is disheartening that a thread like this...that was going so well and so uplifting and encourageing and helping us naturals not to feel ALONE... has to be chastised because we used the word MYTH.
It really hurts.
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Pookeylou, I'm sorry. And again that was not the intent. I guess we should'nt post in Natural theards, then and vice versa.
I do sense the honesty in your posts.
I think this happens because those who choose not to straighten thier hair anymore, put through a sense that they are better, and that may not be the intent at all, but that's how it comes across by some, not all.
It's kinda like quittin smoking and calling non smokers stinky addicted fools.
Because it is also a misconception that people straighten to be non-black or hate thier natural hair. But you are right, I won't post or read in Natural threads anymore. Cause it is redundant. It all boils down to choice. None is better than the other.
I just don't see Relaxed threads that compare "myths" or carry as much controversy.
My only intent in posting was just what I said. I really do'nt want those considering to stop straigtening to have false hope that it's all a bed of roses.
Peace ladies.
Now the mature people will understand that If I stop posting it's cause I'm being mature and don't want to further breed any problem. While others will view it as I posted to start something then leave.
I mean what is one supposed to do. Why can't we just state or opinion, without people feelin bad.?
Country gal
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Actually Relaxed threads have discussed the myths pertaining to AAs have long, relaxed hair. I started the thread being a relaxed person so I could learn about Natural hair. Nothing worthwhile is ever easy. It will take time and patience. This thread wasn't started as a natural vs. relaxed thread. I wanted the ladies to recount some of the negative stuff they have heard about going natural and turn it into something positive.
Mindy-
It's how something is said as well as what is said. You know that as well as I do. No one is asking you to stop posting. However, I do have to agree with Pookeylou in that some "natural" threads do seem to end up with a negative stance even though it began as positive.
Also, when folks are detailing their experiences and we hear statements such as "be fully honest" it DOES sound as if you are calling people liars or are implying such whether you meant to do so or not.
It's how something is said as well as what is said. You know that as well as I do. No one is asking you to stop posting. However, I do have to agree with Pookeylou in that some "natural" threads do seem to end up with a negative stance even though it began as positive.
Also, when folks are detailing their experiences and we hear statements such as "be fully honest" it DOES sound as if you are calling people liars or are implying such whether you meant to do so or not.
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I just don't see Relaxed threads that compare "myths" or carry as much controversy.
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I just don't see Relaxed threads that compare "myths" or carry as much controversy.
[/ QUOTE ] That is probably because their are no relaxed "myths" in which black people put down people who choose to wear their hair in it's unrelaxed state. (not saying that you did that, but people do) Also, it's not controversial to (most) black people to wear a relaxer, but it is to wear your natural hair. sad, but true
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sbaker said:
Actually Relaxed threads have discussed the myths pertaining to AAs have long, relaxed hair. I started the thread being a relaxed person so I could learn about Natural hair. Nothing worthwhile is ever easy. It will take time and patience. This thread wasn't started as a natural vs. relaxed thread. I wanted the ladies to recount some of the negative stuff they have heard about going natural and turn it into something positive.
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Your right.
And as I was reading I saw some post that offered false hope, by omitting facts, and I did'nt want you or anyone to see half a story. Sharing an experience is not dispelling a myth. It's that persons experience. Relaxed people have heard myths about Natural Growing Hair. Did you want just Naturals to post or everyone?
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Actually Relaxed threads have discussed the myths pertaining to AAs have long, relaxed hair. I started the thread being a relaxed person so I could learn about Natural hair. Nothing worthwhile is ever easy. It will take time and patience. This thread wasn't started as a natural vs. relaxed thread. I wanted the ladies to recount some of the negative stuff they have heard about going natural and turn it into something positive.
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And as I was reading I saw some post that offered false hope, by omitting facts, and I did'nt want you or anyone to see half a story. Sharing an experience is not dispelling a myth. It's that persons experience. Relaxed people have heard myths about Natural Growing Hair. Did you want just Naturals to post or everyone?
When I decided to go natural in college, everyone in my entourage felt the need to school me on how my hair would never grow, even my family- I blocked them out of my head and grew my natural hair to shoulder length in 2 years (my hair had never been that long before), then I decided to relax again one day and everyone felt the need to tell me that my hair will never grow again and that I just didn't have the face to carry a relax head of hair- Black people will put you down in everything that you do, you just gotta dust your shoulders off and ignore them.
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I just don't see Relaxed threads that compare "myths" or carry as much controversy.
[/ QUOTE ] That is probably because their are no relaxed "myths" in which black people put down people who choose to wear their hair in it's unrelaxed state. (not saying that you did that, but people do) Also, it's not controversial to (most) black people to wear a relaxer, but it is to wear your natural hair. sad, but true
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I agree...
...The majority of black women in the United States of America wear their hair relaxed, what myths are there when it comes to black women and relaxed hair? Relaxed hair is the norm for us. Why is that?
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I just don't see Relaxed threads that compare "myths" or carry as much controversy.
[/ QUOTE ] That is probably because their are no relaxed "myths" in which black people put down people who choose to wear their hair in it's unrelaxed state. (not saying that you did that, but people do) Also, it's not controversial to (most) black people to wear a relaxer, but it is to wear your natural hair. sad, but true
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I agree...
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patience said:
Mindy-
It's how something is said as well as what is said. You know that as well as I do. No one is asking you to stop posting. However, I do have to agree with Pookeylou in that some "natural" threads do seem to end up with a negative stance even though it began as positive.
Also, when folks are detailing their experiences and we hear statements such as "be fully honest" it DOES sound as if you are calling people liars or are implying such whether you meant to do so or not.
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No I think it relates more to how It's Taken, not how it's said. And when you leave out facts, that can be construed as dishonest.. That's what I said, that's what I meant. And for you to use the word Liar is totally wrong on your part. Totally Wrong.
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Mindy-
It's how something is said as well as what is said. You know that as well as I do. No one is asking you to stop posting. However, I do have to agree with Pookeylou in that some "natural" threads do seem to end up with a negative stance even though it began as positive.
Also, when folks are detailing their experiences and we hear statements such as "be fully honest" it DOES sound as if you are calling people liars or are implying such whether you meant to do so or not.
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No I think it relates more to how It's Taken, not how it's said. And when you leave out facts, that can be construed as dishonest.. That's what I said, that's what I meant. And for you to use the word Liar is totally wrong on your part. Totally Wrong.
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pookeylou said:
Why...someone please tell me why...
Why is it that when a natural thread is started...and the naturals defend THEIR experience...it turns into drama and we need eduction on how we word things?
If there is a format for wording a natural question so that others will not be offended...will someone please forward it to me so that I can state things properly and cover ALL scenarios?
It is disheartening that a thread like this...that was going so well and so uplifting and encourageing and helping us naturals not to feel ALONE... has to be chastised because we used the word MYTH.
It really hurts.
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I have to agree. Let's keep this thread on track. It's a great thread for the naturals on this board to help dispel alot of the negative things said about natural hair. One woman's lie is another woman's truth. We all know that, right? If someone who's transitioning or considering transitioning sees some of their fears listed here:
1. They'll know they're not alone, and others have encountered the same things and found much of the "theories" about natural hair to be false.
2. It can give them the courage to try something they might have been a bit apprehensive to try and know that not everything negative said about natural hair is true. It's good to know that there are successful, happy, natural heads out here.
Carry on, ladies!
pookeylou said:
Why...someone please tell me why...
Why is it that when a natural thread is started...and the naturals defend THEIR experience...it turns into drama and we need eduction on how we word things?
If there is a format for wording a natural question so that others will not be offended...will someone please forward it to me so that I can state things properly and cover ALL scenarios?
It is disheartening that a thread like this...that was going so well and so uplifting and encourageing and helping us naturals not to feel ALONE... has to be chastised because we used the word MYTH.
It really hurts.
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I have to agree. Let's keep this thread on track. It's a great thread for the naturals on this board to help dispel alot of the negative things said about natural hair. One woman's lie is another woman's truth. We all know that, right? If someone who's transitioning or considering transitioning sees some of their fears listed here:
1. They'll know they're not alone, and others have encountered the same things and found much of the "theories" about natural hair to be false.
2. It can give them the courage to try something they might have been a bit apprehensive to try and know that not everything negative said about natural hair is true. It's good to know that there are successful, happy, natural heads out here.
Carry on, ladies!
pookeylou
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Mindymouse said:
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pookeylou said:
Why...someone please tell me why...
Why is it that when a natural thread is started...and the naturals defend THEIR experience...it turns into drama and we need eduction on how we word things?
If there is a format for wording a natural question so that others will not be offended...will someone please forward it to me so that I can state things properly and cover ALL scenarios?
It is disheartening that a thread like this...that was going so well and so uplifting and encourageing and helping us naturals not to feel ALONE... has to be chastised because we used the word MYTH.
It really hurts.
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Pookeylou, I'm sorry. And again that was not the intent. I guess we should'nt post in Natural theards, then and vice versa.
I do sense the honesty in your posts.
I think this happens because those who choose not to straighten thier hair anymore, put through a sense that they are better, and that may not be the intent at all, but that's how it comes across by some, not all.
It's kinda like quittin smoking and calling non smokers stinky addicted fools.
Or losing weight and callin fat people, gross.
Because it is also a misconception that people straighten to be non-black or hate thier natural hair. But you are right, I won't post or read in Natural threads anymore. Cause it is redundant. It all boils down to choice. None is better than the other.
I just don't see Relaxed threads that compare "myths" or carry as much controversy.
My only intent in posting was just what I said. I really do'nt want those considering to stop straigtening to have false hope that it's all a bed of roses.
Peace ladies.
Now the mature people will understand that If I stop posting it's cause I'm being mature and don't want to further breed any problem. While others will view it as I posted to start something then leave.
I mean what is one supposed to do. Why can't we just state or opinion, without people feelin bad.?
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Peace to you sis.
I think my reaction comes on the heels of last weeks barrage of positive, thought provoking threads about natural hair getting analyzed to death, chastised, even deleted. Even though the moderators have made it clear that this is a "narurals welcome" house...it never fails that these threads end up with the same eventuality.
I have asked the same question you posed in a later comment:
"Should naturals post in only natural threads and vice versa for relaxed?" and received a booming "NO!"
Even though the mission on this site is to encourage each other to grow our hair long...the culture and language of the two heads often gets misinterpreted. Unfortunately to the detriment of some real wisdom that can be gained by all.
I know how it feels to be misrepresented and misinterpreted. No intention to do that you. I have no problem with people asking the questions. It makes me think. Those questions are what made me decide to go natural in the first place. The problem I see is one-sided censoring. Your comment on "how we word it" is one that I have seen commonly put to naturals. When we speak the truth on natural hair...it is misinterpreted as trying to take away anothers choice or forcing our views.
Absolutely no more angry feelings on my part. This is just my thoughts from my vantage point.
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pookeylou said:
Why...someone please tell me why...
Why is it that when a natural thread is started...and the naturals defend THEIR experience...it turns into drama and we need eduction on how we word things?
If there is a format for wording a natural question so that others will not be offended...will someone please forward it to me so that I can state things properly and cover ALL scenarios?
It is disheartening that a thread like this...that was going so well and so uplifting and encourageing and helping us naturals not to feel ALONE... has to be chastised because we used the word MYTH.
It really hurts.
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Pookeylou, I'm sorry. And again that was not the intent. I guess we should'nt post in Natural theards, then and vice versa.
I do sense the honesty in your posts.
I think this happens because those who choose not to straighten thier hair anymore, put through a sense that they are better, and that may not be the intent at all, but that's how it comes across by some, not all.
It's kinda like quittin smoking and calling non smokers stinky addicted fools.
Because it is also a misconception that people straighten to be non-black or hate thier natural hair. But you are right, I won't post or read in Natural threads anymore. Cause it is redundant. It all boils down to choice. None is better than the other.
I just don't see Relaxed threads that compare "myths" or carry as much controversy.
My only intent in posting was just what I said. I really do'nt want those considering to stop straigtening to have false hope that it's all a bed of roses.
Peace ladies.
Now the mature people will understand that If I stop posting it's cause I'm being mature and don't want to further breed any problem. While others will view it as I posted to start something then leave.
I mean what is one supposed to do. Why can't we just state or opinion, without people feelin bad.?
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Peace to you sis.
I think my reaction comes on the heels of last weeks barrage of positive, thought provoking threads about natural hair getting analyzed to death, chastised, even deleted. Even though the moderators have made it clear that this is a "narurals welcome" house...it never fails that these threads end up with the same eventuality.
I have asked the same question you posed in a later comment:
"Should naturals post in only natural threads and vice versa for relaxed?" and received a booming "NO!"
Even though the mission on this site is to encourage each other to grow our hair long...the culture and language of the two heads often gets misinterpreted. Unfortunately to the detriment of some real wisdom that can be gained by all.
I know how it feels to be misrepresented and misinterpreted. No intention to do that you. I have no problem with people asking the questions. It makes me think. Those questions are what made me decide to go natural in the first place. The problem I see is one-sided censoring. Your comment on "how we word it" is one that I have seen commonly put to naturals. When we speak the truth on natural hair...it is misinterpreted as trying to take away anothers choice or forcing our views.
Absolutely no more angry feelings on my part. This is just my thoughts from my vantage point.
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