Celina! I missed what you said about having a horse... wow, that is so cool, for real!
Hey, uh, so are you a member of any groups where you could meet other horse enthusiasts?
No. I guess I should look into it.
Is being single THAT bad?
Why yes the H E L L it is!
People always say that "I'm single by choice" but if that's the case everyone is single by choice. It's always that one psycho man with no teethfus in his mouth that you could probably get to date you. But that's just desperate and that's not cute.
Yes single is that bad. Especially when you've spent time working on yourself to you get to the point where you care comfortable with yourself, and you still don't have any prospects. Yes being single is that bad because eventually you get tired of hugging pillows at night, kissing yourself, and playing with your Mr. B.O.B. Yes it is that bad because sometimes you just wanna share personal intimate details with someone who is not a girl or your father.
Being single is fine for awhile. I have no problem with it, but it gets boring, lonely, and very predictable after awhile. I hate it. Death to being single.
**This rant COULD possibly come from being that time of the month, being 2am and still up and cranky, and realizing that I'm getting to the point where I'm tired of being single. But nevertheless being single is not as people make it cracked up to be. I don't care how much makeup you put on it, a pig is still a pig.**
I'll consider. I haven't felt good about myself in years and I know why but I feel that if I could find that one special person that actually likes me and wants to spend the rest of his life with me I would feel better. Then, again I feel bad when someone actually does like me thinking that I'm not worth liking and that they'll be disappointed.
Oh well, I'll hold off on relationships for now.
Fascinating thread! I'm in a different position from most of you - I'm older than most of y'all, and I'm in the process of getting a divorce - and looking forward in my life, I'm eager to be single, and seriously, seriously, seriously doubt that I'll ever get married again.
For me - esp. since the urge to be a mother is fading - I don't forsee any man being worth the expectation of intimate interdependence.
Don't get me wrong - I learned a LOT about myself within my marriage, stuff I would have not learned had I stayed single. Knowing these things about myself, however, makes me pretty certain that I would never be fully happy as a wife, and maybe not even as a girlfriend.
Kiya! What???? OMG.. this is a shocker!
^^^^^Kiya? I didnt know you were divorcing .
Thank you for sharing this. I think some people eventually come to this realization, and it seems like it is usually men. It is interesting to see that some women can also start to feel this way.
He's a great guy. I'm an awesome woman. It's just thT the areas that we fail in (innate to us) are areas that are critically important to the other within a relationship. It's a very mutually amicable process, and I am thankful to have experienced the last ten years with him. But by the gods, I'm SOOOO looking forward to being alone.
Well, then I'm happy for you...but what do you think about the reading you did with Lisa?
He's a great guy. I'm an awesome woman. It's just thT the areas that we fail in (innate to us) are areas that are critically important to the other within a relationship. It's a very mutually amicable process, and I am thankful to have experienced the last ten years with him. But by the gods, I'm SOOOO looking forward to being alone, again.
It's funny, because I've been told that my 'emotional logic' is often more classically masculine than feminine - I very often 'think like a man'. So, yeah - it's interesting, because you so rarely hear any negatives about the life-long bachelor compared to the 'stuff' a life-long bachelorette hears, despite the fact that I think marriage often changes a womans life and priorities more than it changes the mans. *shrug* I acknowledge it's largely socialization, but it's a fascinating dichotomy to me.
Fascinating thread! I'm in a different position from most of you - I'm older than most of y'all, and I'm in the process of getting a divorce - and looking forward in my life, I'm eager to be single, and seriously, seriously, seriously doubt that I'll ever get married again.
For me - esp. since the urge to be a mother is fading - I don't forsee any man being worth the expectation of intimate interdependence.
Don't get me wrong - I learned a LOT about myself within my marriage, stuff I would have not learned had I stayed single. Knowing these things about myself, however, makes me pretty certain that I would never be fully happy as a wife, and maybe not even as a girlfriend.
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Are you truly happy and single and truly don't mind being alone?[/QUOTE}
Hm...let me see....
I:
Date 3 guys. I consider 1 my SO.
Own my own place. Which I redecorate every 5 years.
Have a fantastic group of friends.
Shop every weekend. Recently did a 8am to 11pm shopping trip.
Hold titles to 2 relatives homes.
Have a great portfolio. Which enabled me to retire more than 15 years early.
Travel at the drop of a hat.
Need I go on?
Happy-yes.
Single-yes
Lonely-Don't have the time to be!
Fascinating thread! I'm in a different position from most of you - I'm older than most of y'all, and I'm in the process of getting a divorce - and looking forward in my life, I'm eager to be single, and seriously, seriously, seriously doubt that I'll ever get married again.
For me - esp. since the urge to be a mother is fading - I don't forsee any man being worth the expectation of intimate interdependence.
Don't get me wrong - I learned a LOT about myself within my marriage, stuff I would have not learned had I stayed single. Knowing these things about myself, however, makes me pretty certain that I would never be fully happy as a wife, and maybe not even as a girlfriend.
Fascinating thread! I'm in a different position from most of you - I'm older than most of y'all, and I'm in the process of getting a divorce - and looking forward in my life, I'm eager to be single, and seriously, seriously, seriously doubt that I'll ever get married again.
For me - esp. since the urge to be a mother is fading - I don't forsee any man being worth the expectation of intimate interdependence.
Don't get me wrong - I learned a LOT about myself within my marriage, stuff I would have not learned had I stayed single. Knowing these things about myself, however, makes me pretty certain that I would never be fully happy as a wife, and maybe not even as a girlfriend.
When you really think about it, it seems like it would make more sense for a woman to embrace life-long bachelorette-hood , especially now that we can actually have careers and take care of ourselves. We'd only have to cook for ourselves, and clean up after ourselves, and go on a bunch of (free) dates without a commitment. Men will give up the goods with little convincing. We don't have to put our own goals on hold to support theirs. Hmmm... Men better wake up and recognize.
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Are you truly happy and single and truly don't mind being alone?[/QUOTE}
Hm...let me see....
I:
Date 3 guys. I consider 1 my SO.
Own my own place. Which I redecorate every 5 years.
Have a fantastic group of friends.
Shop every weekend. Recently did a 8am to 11pm shopping trip.
Hold titles to 2 relatives homes.
Have a great portfolio. Which enabled me to retire more than 15 years early.
Travel at the drop of a hat.
Need I go on?
Happy-yes.
Single-yes
Lonely-Don't have the time to be!
The only thing that sucks about being single for me is not making love on a regular basis...yeah, that's about it.
You took the words right out of my head.
I am NOT wife/gf material, too bad it took me so long to fully realize this, even though I had this feeling when I was younger.
I am a mother and finally feel that I am through wanting more so all that is done.
The only sad thing is that people tend to pity me when I say that I am truely not looking for that "special someone" and content living my life alone. It seems to be taboo not to want the conventional two-some.
I am looking forward to living my life, semi-drama free, with me, myself and I (and my children of course)!
ETA:
Oh yeah, the sex thing.
On the goodside, men are sluts and rarely say no, on the badside, men are sluts and rarely say no.
This might be a problem.
Hej Hej
Nina-Def … your post is a breath of fresh air. Women should be able to make what ever decisions they want, without having to hear the following:
1. What’s wrong with you. Were you hurt that bad?
2. You will miss out?
3. This isn’t the life GOD … GAAWWDDDDD intended for you. Maybe you need to pray honey.
4. Are you a lesbian?
5. … etc
As long as the decision you make for yourself was made consciously, well thought out and feels right for you, then IT’S RIGHT FOR YOU. People will have to respect that and realize that not everyone has a right to speak in your life.
I do not enjoy being a traditional wife. I do not enjoy being a “regular” girlfriend either. I do not want to be obligated to see you daily or even just a few times a week. I am happy with twice a month or twice a year or once every other year … lol … slightly kidding!
I love my freedom, especially after what happened in No-way! Why would I want to give up my freedom… AGAIN! I can have sex when I want, and if I want to go 3 weeks, 3 months without it, I can, because I don’t have some oversexed, needy man bugging me. I don’t have to answer to anyone.
You hear quite a few women saying, “If I knew then what I knew now, I would not have gotten married.” They SAYYY … marriage is good for men and bad for women. However, for the woman that genuinely want to get married and not just because society and her parents expects it, it takes a great deal of common sense, intuition THAT YOU ACTUALLY LISTEN TO , taking your time to get to know him especially before having sex with him and a good background/criminal check… etc to choose the right Life Partner/Spouse.
I better stop … don’t get me started!
I won't go into too many details, but I agree with all of you ladies 100% and If I get divorced, I highly doubt I would ever marry again. I was just having lunch with of my girlfriends yesterday & she was talking about her life as a single mother. She said it's not half as bad as people make it out to be. She said if a woman with kids can get her finances in order, she can be pretty happy as a single mom & despite popular belief, men & especially intercourse is not that hard to come by. She lives her life as she sees fit & wouldn't have it any other way. I respect that.
All I can really do is repeat what's been stated: if I knew now what I didn't know then, I'd probably still have my maiden name.
I won't go into too many details, but I agree with all of you ladies 100% and If I get divorced, I highly doubt I would ever marry again. I was just having lunch with of my girlfriends yesterday & she was talking about her life as a single mother. She said it's not half as bad as people make it out to be. She said if a woman with kids can get her finances in order, she can be pretty happy as a single mom & despite popular belief, men & especially intercourse is not that hard to come by. She lives her life as she sees fit & wouldn't have it any other way. I respect that.
All I can really do is repeat what's been stated: if I knew now what I didn't know then, I'd probably still have my maiden name.
Thank you, we are far and few between!!!!!
BB, I hear ya (I wished I would've listen a little more closely to you yeeaarrrsss back)!
I've also gotten the "Oh, it must be soo hard to be a single mother, I could never do it, are you going to apply for assistence money from the state, blah, blah, blah.
Let me be the first one to point it out; men are EXPENSIVE! I must have a nack for seeking out men who live beyond their means. I can be pretty high maintenece myself but only when I can afford it, and I am doing my darnest to be able to afford it.
One of the fathers helps out, one doesn't, t'is all good because I can do it on my own.
The pros of being single mother:
-What I say goes in my house, no one is overriding my parenting.
- Noone is coming home from work, late and "exhausted" in a bad mood talking about all the drama and huge desicionmaking, throwing his feet on the table next to the pile of unfolded laundry (again), wondering what's for dinner.
- Noone is late picking up the son from preschool becuase he can't time-manage.
- Noone is serving up large plates of meat, potatoes and cream sause when it's his turn to make dinner (I don't like potatoes and I can't eat cream sauses 4 times a week and i MUST have fresh vegetables with almost every meal).
- No one is expecting a standing ovation everytime they do laundry (and shrink my clothes).
- Noone is asking me for more closet space.
- The bathrooms are always clean.
- Noone is commenting on me leaving hairpins or nail files here and there.
- I no longer have to indure long a** dinners with arrogant, stuckup, stiff, boring "friends".
- My money actually goes further.....
Cons:
- My son misses his father every morning (the MAIN CON).
- The sex was the best I have ever had!!!!!!!!!!!!
- There are no more date nights, holding hands, going to posh restaurants and bars, feeling loved and protected.
- The best sex I ever could imagine.
Disclaimer:
I have 3 sons, 2 are teenagers, they cook, clean, pick up the youngest from preschool once a week and pull their weight as much as possible. That makes being a single mother a lot easier.
I love my freedom.
And I am, finally, happy.
I am NOT looking nor wanting a new man!
My mother was pestering me today; you'll be 45 soon, you have 3 kids, do you think you will meet someone soon?
I told her that the next time I get married it will be to Magnum, Tom Selleck.
If it's not him, I'm good.
She replyed; Oh he's too old.
Yup. There ya go!
Thank you, we are far and few between!!!!!
BB, I hear ya (I wished I would've listen a little more closely to you yeeaarrrsss back)!
I've also gotten the "Oh, it must be soo hard to be a single mother, I could never do it, are you going to apply for assistence money from the state, blah, blah, blah.
Let me be the first one to point it out; men are EXPENSIVE! I must have a nack for seeking out men who live beyond their means. I can be pretty high maintenece myself but only when I can afford it, and I am doing my darnest to be able to afford it.
One of the fathers helps out, one doesn't, t'is all good because I can do it on my own.
The pros of being single mother:
-What I say goes in my house, no one is overriding my parenting.
- Noone is coming home from work, late and "exhausted" in a bad mood talking about all the drama and huge desicionmaking, throwing his feet on the table next to the pile of unfolded laundry (again), wondering what's for dinner.
- Noone is late picking up the son from preschool becuase he can't time-manage.
- Noone is serving up large plates of meat, potatoes and cream sause when it's his turn to make dinner (I don't like potatoes and I can't eat cream sauses 4 times a week and i MUST have fresh vegetables with almost every meal).
- No one is expecting a standing ovation everytime they do laundry (and shrink my clothes).
- Noone is asking me for more closet space.
- The bathrooms are always clean.
- Noone is commenting on me leaving hairpins or nail files here and there.
- I no longer have to indure long a** dinners with arrogant, stuckup, stiff, boring "friends".
- My money actually goes further.....
Cons:
- My son misses his father every morning (the MAIN CON).
- The sex was the best I have ever had!!!!!!!!!!!!
- There are no more date nights, holding hands, going to posh restaurants and bars, feeling loved and protected.
- The best sex I ever could imagine.
Disclaimer:
I have 3 sons, 2 are teenagers, they cook, clean, pick up the youngest from preschool once a week and pull their weight as much as possible. That makes being a single mother a lot easier.
I love my freedom.
And I am, finally, happy.
I am NOT looking nor wanting a new man!
My mother was pestering me today; you'll be 45 soon, you have 3 kids, do you think you will meet someone soon?
I told her that the next time I get married it will be to Magnum, Tom Selleck.
If it's not him, I'm good.
She replyed; Oh he's too old.
Yup. There ya go!
I laughed out loud at your post, but you are so right! I appreciate your honesty & candor. I also envy your liberation. **le sigh*** I'm proud of you & all the sisters like you. I'm not 100% resolute in my decision, but I think I'm going to be just like you when I grow up.
Beyond the desire to wed, I think if most women just reached the point where they don't HAVE to have a man nor do they go around trying to figure out the latest formula to obtain one, we would be much happier as a whole.
It's okay to not desire to be married, but it's NOT okay to desire to be married so badly that the mere thought of just being married controls one's existence. The hair stands up on my neck everytime I hear a woman say, " i would be happy if I just had a man." NEWSFLASH:If you ain't happy without a man, sooner or later you aren't going to be happy with one because men no matter how good they are, don't always have the ability to maintain our happiness because that comes from within or at least it should.
Asuperwoman, I think it's a whole lot easier to have such a perspective when you have been married and can compare the two and decide that you prefer singleness.
While I agree that one should not spend her waking existence thinking about how much she wants to be married, I also think it's quite unfair for married women (or once married women) to use their experiences to indirectly question the desire of those who've never been married or even had a relationship to be involved in one.
What if someone is happier having a man? Is there anything wrong with that? Just as some people prefer being single, others might be happier with a man. One's happiness shouldn't depend on being in a relationship, but I think it's perfectly fine for a person to say that he or she is much happier when with a partner than without.
It was the most frustrating thing when I was a few years younger to express my desire to marry and have a family, only to hear women who already had those things all but tell me it was overrated (well, not the kids) and that they would do things differently if they had the chance.
Well that's the point. They had the chance. I had not. I would like to see for myself what I prefer.
Hey, maybe five years from now I'll be back and say that I prefer singleness as well. But at least my choice will be made on actually having been through both.
I know everyone, including those women who shared their thoughts with me in the past, meant well and wanted to protect me from unrealistic expectations. They also wanted me to love myself and appreciate the very full and rich life that I had as a single woman.
That's fine.
But it can be very disheartening to have a natural desire for a relationship/marriage and a yearning for long-term companionship dismissed or treated as if it's going to be taken to an extreme if a woman ends up in such a relationship.
Before I got married, I was much like many other single women: I desired marriage so badly. Like many women, I was also raised to believe that I HAD to get married. Something in my life would be missing despite my many accomplishments if I did not wed.
I agree with this. I think I'm much more likely to have a healthy marriage now than I would have if I had married 7-10 years ago. I don't think I needed to get to age 33 to reach that point though... I feel marriage is a bit overdue at this point.It's not my intentions to dismiss the feelings of single women on this board or irl (my apologies if anyone was offended) my intentions were only to showcase the importance of being complete in singleness, doing so makes it so much easier to be married. Identity issues in singleness from my experience get the magnifying glass in marriage.
Lastly, this is just how I feel about things right now. I'm sure there are happily married women who will sing the praises of marriage, I'm just not one of them right now. It could just be a phase or it could be permanent, we'll see. It's easier to choose something when you've been given ALL the pros & con's. A blind choice, IMO is the worst kind.
I think this might be the difference here... see, I wasn't raised that way. Maybe it's a Northern thing... I mean, everyone assumed I would be married, but the main message I got was, "Go to school, travel, get a career, do you and then the man thing will fall into place." I know a lot of other women who had the same experience -- so from that perspective, being told to continue to focus on singleness and stifling any conversation about marriage creates a problem at the opposite end of the spectrum.
I agree with this. I think I'm much more likely to have a healthy marriage now than I would have if I had married 7-10 years ago. I don't think I needed to get to age 33 to reach that point though... I feel marriage is a bit overdue at this point.
And I definitely respect and appreciate this opinion.
WWNH said:Trust your intuition. When friends, family, and advisors counsel you to do something against your intuition, trust your intuition. Only YOU can see your goals clearly. It is that uncluttered view of your goals that creates your intuition in the first place, so why ignore your most potent motivational and directive force? Your intuition is correct, accurate, and judgmentally sound to lead you to victory, if you envision strongly enough the thrills and rewards which will follow the attainment of your dream.
(http://wwnh.wordpress.com/whats-coming/)