Waistlength and Beyond – Names + Regimens!

[FlowerHair]

Flowerhair, girl I thought I was the only one who used regular lotion on their hair!! My grandmother used to use baby lotion on my hair when I was little, and that has carried on throughout my life. My hair was always moisturized, and soft when I used it. I have been so nervous about ever mentioning it on the forum. Thank you for helping me to have the courage to out myself with that method of hair care {{hugs}}

Haha, don't be scared
I'm sure the ingredients in body lotion is more or less the same as in leave in conditioners etc. As long as the hair is moisturized and not too greasy, that's all that matters
What better place to put "leftover" lotion from your hands than your hair

 

[wyldcurlz]

i'm concerned about damage to my hairline...i'm actually concerned about receding/disappearing hairline. i've seen so many women, who wear their hair in protective styles - eventually find their hairline thinning. however, the WL women iin here don't seem to have that problem.

could wrapping or tying tightly with a silk scarf (so smooth hairline) cause that kind of damage?

what's the best way to prevent thinning at the hairline? (i've posted about this in the form too...i got freaked out after seeing a girl with nice hair, who wears weaves as a protective style occasionally - with a very THIN hairline. then seeing those pix of angela bassett's hairline....)

also - because of FlowerHair and Cichelle - i think i'm going to stop tying with a silk scarf at night....on top of that, my silk scarf always falls off anyway...but i'm scared that it could do something damaging to my hairline...help!

 

[FlowerHair]

i'm concerned about damage to my hairline...i'm actually concerned about receding/disappearing hairline. i've seen so many women, who wear their hair in protective styles - eventually find their hairline thinning. however, the WL women iin here don't seem to have that problem.

could wrapping or tying tightly with a silk scarf (so smooth hairline) cause that kind of damage?

what's the best way to prevent thinning at the hairline? (i've posted about this in the form too...i got freaked out after seeing a girl with nice hair, who wears weaves as a protective style occasionally - with a very THIN hairline. then seeing those pix of angela bassett's hairline....)

also - because of FlowerHair and Cichelle - i think i'm going to stop tying with a silk scarf at night....on top of that, my silk scarf always falls off anyway...but i'm scared that it could do something damaging to my hairline...help!

I wish I had an answer for that, because I'm also a little bit worried about my hairline from time to time...
I hope someone can help us with an answer

 

[GoldenBreeze]

i'm concerned about damage to my hairline...i'm actually concerned about receding/disappearing hairline. i've seen so many women, who wear their hair in protective styles - eventually find their hairline thinning. however, the WL women iin here don't seem to have that problem.

could wrapping or tying tightly with a silk scarf (so smooth hairline) cause that kind of damage?

what's the best way to prevent thinning at the hairline? (i've posted about this in the form too...i got freaked out after seeing a girl with nice hair, who wears weaves as a protective style occasionally - with a very THIN hairline. then seeing those pix of angela bassett's hairline....)

also - because of FlowerHair and Cichelle - i think i'm going to stop tying with a silk scarf at night....on top of that, my silk scarf always falls off anyway...but i'm scared that it could do something damaging to my hairline...help!

IDK, I think the answer is different for everyone. However, silk scarves are not created equal. I found that georgette silk is the best for me, because it has a bit of texture so it stays on. If the silk is slippery, then it is not good for using as a scarf. The slippery silks are great for pillow cases if you choose to use them instead of scarves.

I wear protective styles, buns, twists, and braids (buns mostly), but I don't use any added hair and I don't pull or put extra stress on my edges. Pinning my buns seems to be better than using ponytail holders, because it causes less stress on the edges. I use hairpins, either the regular ones, or Amish hairpins. Some ladies use the good day pins. Massaging my hairline with a little castor oil at night before putting on my scarf also helps.

I don't know if any of those things will be helpful to you. A rule of thumb is if a style is tight or uncomfortable to the scalp around your hairline, then it has the potential to thin your edges. It's quite possible that Angela Bassett felt some discomfort around the edges with the style(s) that caused her edge problem, but just ignored it or thought it was normal.

ETA: When I want to use a ponytail as the start for my buns, I either braid my hair or use a knee high stocking to tie it into a ponytail. The knee high idea came from Chicoro, and I will always be greatful to her for that.

 

[naturaline]

Great thread!

My regimen is pretty simple. It has varied over the years, but not in the basics. I wash my hair 2-3 times a week, air dry it and then put it in a bun or other updo. My products are shampoo (usually shampoo bars), conditioner, and occasionally I will use coconut oil sparingly. I can replace the conditioner if I do a heavy oiling pre-shampoo. But I rarely do that anymore.

I've discovered that banding works well for me to keep tangles away. When I band, I simply wash, band the hair in four sections and then let it air dry. If I am in a hurry, I will sit under a bonnet dryer for about an hour to speed up the drying. When I take the bands out, I brush my hair and put it up in an updo. It doesn't make my hair straight, but it's the closest I get since I don't use any other form of heat.

I don't deep condition, either for protein or moisture. I use henna. I don't trim and wont unless there is damage that cannot be remedied any other way.

Hmm, I think that's all.

I have a very simple regimen as well

I'm texlaxed and I process my hair every 10 - 16 weeks. I only leave the relaxer on my hair for 5 minutes with very little smoothing. I'm not a big fan of straight hair that's my texture on me. I like volume and natural-looking hair.

My staples are Lekair cholesterol, and CON shampoo.

I cowash approx 5 times a week, even in the winter. I'm hardcore . I wash every week - week and a half.

I have discovered that all I need are oils and maybe a lil hair grease. I the mimosa grease from Carol's Daughter. My oils are Olive, castor, grapeseed and glycerin.

Exercising and having a good diet and vitamin reggie are equally important.

WOW iv been watchin your hair since i join LHCF (LOVE the thickness!) its grown NUFF!! propa happy 4ya! xxx

 

[Saffirejuiliet]

This is one of my favorite threads. It is so inspirational. Thanks Flowerhair and everyone for contributing.

 

[Lucia]

I wish I had an answer for that, because I'm also a little bit worried about my hairline from time to time...
I hope someone can help us with an answer

I use a satiny sleep bonnet and a stretchy satin headband along the hairline after smoothing it and moisturizing.
You could try ayurvedic scalp massage with you fav oil, or scalp massage under warm runing water, to thicken up hair and speed up hairgrowth
Hth

 

[Lucia]

Haha, don't be scared
I'm sure the ingredients in body lotion is more or less the same as in leave in conditioners etc. As long as the hair is moisturized and not too greasy, that's all that matters
What better place to put "leftover" lotion from your hands than your hair

Lotion works great esp when traveling and you can't pack a lot of diff products conditioner and a good moiturizing lotion does it all.

 

[BroadstreetBully]

BUMP

 

[Starr1]

Bumpity bump bump!

 

[Melissa-jane]

thanks for the information about relaxers i used silk elements and my hair felt great straight after relaxing but now has splits, i am going to stretch and then start using phyto. i have it already but i am not ready to relax yet.

I love this thread! I feel your pain! I had wonderful progress for the first two years....then, the last two....I have had setbacks and cannot get past BSL.

My setbacks have been protein overload, and switching relaxers. I henna regularly and I just don't think my hair can take protein on top of henna because henna already strengthens the hair to some degree. I have experienced a lot of breakage from that. Also, I've gotten lazy and stopped baggying (which did wonders). I have cut my hair so much over the past year trying to get it evened up (because of breakage on the ends)...

ALSO....ever since I switched from Phyto to Silk Elements Lye....my hair has not done as well. I think I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and go back to Phyto and pay the $60 bucks a pop.

I am so inspired by this THREAD! Thanks ladies! Your hair is beautiful.

 

[Melissa-jane]

i need to stop searching and destroying as it is hampering my progress, its goo to see you can reach waist length with out being scissor happy.

I'm so sorry for taking so long to answer this, betty-boo. Please forgive me, but I've been a bit under the weather with lupus lately. Also, I'm not WL only BSL

My regimen:

-CO-wash and DC 2 to 3 times a week
-Detangle only in shower with condition and wide tooth comb
-Air dry with leave-in and Avocado or other butter
-Wear in some type of bun or braid almost everyday
-Moisturize, braid, and sleep in a silk scarf each night
-Flatiron a couple of times a year (maybe)
-Hard protein treatment every 8 to 12 weeks, as needed
-Trim rarely, because I'm a little bit OCD with the scissors.
(I'm not concerned about uneven ends as long as they are not split or knotted.)

The extras:
-Love henna, but I'm hair lazy right now so I'm not using it.
-Try to eat a balanced diet for general and hair health
-Drink a lot of water
-Take a multi vit daily for general health, and hair health
-Take MSM daily for joint pain, but my hair likes it too
-Take biotin 3 - 4 times a week.

I don't think hair growth vits are necessary. I just take them to help counteract the effects that medications have on my hair growth.

 

[Melissa-jane]

Hiya!

I relax twice a year with Phyto Index 2
Trim twice a year
Shampoo with shampoo bars, ACV rinse and moist. condish, Giovanni direct leave in once a week. Seal with coconut oil, grapeseed oil, olive oil, cocoa butter mix. Airdry 99% of time in braids. If not airdrying I rollerset.
AO GPB lite protein q 2 weeks
Shakaki rinse/CO wash mid week
Massage scalp with Nyle oil nightly
Moisturize entire length and ends with Hair One olive oil, seal with oil mix and rebraid nightly.
I don't use direct heat on my hair

This regimen is similar to mine but lately i have had breakage around my temples due to hormonal changes and i like to wear bangs to hide the damage and take the pressure off my edges. This means I have to use direct heat to get my bangs looking nice but I can manage not to use direct heat on 90% of my hair. This works for me as my hair is very thick and the hairs are fine toward the back and sensitive to heat and chemicals. I have stretched for four months before but I am going to try to do six months so that i always mange to relax just befor my birthday in May and Christmas. Other times of the year I don't care. My hair grows fast and I am happy to hear that other women find this also.

This has been a wonderful thread for me thank you flower hair, this is such a blessing.

 

[Mrs.Green]

Love this thread!!

 

[GoldenBreeze]

i need to stop searching and destroying as it is hampering my progress, its goo to see you can reach waist length with out being scissor happy.

I don't think S&D is a bad thing, as long as it isn't taken to the extreme. If at the end of the year your hair is the same length it was at the beginning (and that wasn't what you intended), then you've been doing a wee bit too much S&D.

I'm natural, and am not a big heat user so it isn't necessary for me to do much trimming. It's just as well, because I really do go nuts when I get the shears in my hands.

 

[Caramel Hottie UK]

woooh, I got to the end of the thread! I've been reading since I woke up. Thank you for this thread, i am bookmarking it. I have learnt so much

xxx

 

[Coco*Colada]

I am waistlength I am a newbie just got on a here less than a month ago

 

[FlowerHair]

I am waistlength I am a newbie just got on a here less than a month ago

Welcome to the board
What's your regimen?

 

[Coco*Colada]

thank you!!

✯I wash twice a week with the Fekkai Shea Butter Line
✯Co-wash on days i work out DC once a week sometimes 2 with Ojon Restorative Hair Treatment
✯Try to keep heat to a minimum of once a week
✯Trim 2-3 times a year it depends
✯Moisturize with coconut oil and cantu shea butter on ends
✯I airdry most of the time so I don't have to blowdry so long before straightening

 

[favorc]

I basically make my on conditioners. I like to use avacado and olive oil and deep condish with that once a week. I dont use any heat(blow dryer). I love using olive oil on my hair and using a essential oils on my scalp. I like to use peppermint, rosemarry, lavendar and emu oil. Sorry so short ladies but am at work and I don't have a comp at my house right now. but I can tell you that doing less to my hair has helped sooo much.

 

[Kiki82]

great thread ladies!!!!

 

[schipperchow1]

Congrats to all the waist length & beyond ladies! Hopefully, you can add my name to this list by the end of the summer

 

[Blessed24]

Thanks to FlowerHair for starting this thread and to all the WL Ladies, you are all a true inspiration. Great info for healthy hair of any length. WL is a journey of Love, Hope and Patience! Continued Success!

 

[mariofmagdal]

Apparently i've got to research "banding." i don't know where i've been but i know nothing about this and i've now heard Pokahontas and Cichelle (among others, but those are the 2 i remember) mention that they're doing it. what does it do? what it is about? i'm off to do a search. i'll be back if (when) i have specific questions.

I finally gave banding a try for the first time. I was looking for a way to show some length. I had my ponytail under a baseball cap, however, my SHRINKAGE IS A BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!

My DH and Son thought it was cute, cause I am always bunned of course. I think I will have to try it with more bands next time. I have about 8 bubble balls down my back, it still fell well below bra-strap with the shrinkage.

Sorry no pics, I took my hair down, forgot about a pic.

 

[dlewis]

I'm not waist yet but I'm close to it. My regimen is very simple. Wash with diluted poo once a week. Bun for 3 days with conditioner on the last 4-6" of hair. Sealing hair with vasleine or oil (this also helps the hair lay down better). Take down and condition wash and redo bun with conditioner and bun for 3 more days. Detangling once a week.

 

[FlowerHair]

^^^^ Thank you DLewis

I love a simple regimen

 

[STLCoverGirl]

My Regimen
3B/C Natural WSL
I don't have a set schedule as to when I wash, dc, shampoo, etc...I do what I feel my hair needs at the moment. My regimen is very simple(these are just products I really like, lol), I don't stress about a schedule. I wear my hair down frequently or up in a "sloppy bun". I dust as needed, but I typically go to a salon once per year for a "good" trim.

Curly Regimen
CW-every 1-3 days w/ either
HE LTR
HE None Of Your Frizziness
Aussie Moist
Suave
Say Yes to Carrots Pampering Hair Mud Conditioner(New Fave)
VS SO Sexy Nourishing Conditioner
NTM Daily Deep Conditioner

Shampoo-I shampoo about once a month on average
CON(green and white bottle/old formula)
Suave Clarifying
NTM Cream Lather Shampoo

Deep Conditioners
Say Yes To Carrots Mask
Queen Helene Cholesterol
Banana Brulee
Pantene R&N Deep Conditioning Mask

Leave-Ins
Giovonni Direct
Lacio Lacio
HE LTR Leave-in

Protein Treatments
Aphogee Two-Minute
Ultra Sheen Duotex

Styling Products for curly styles
BTZ Noodlehead
Hairveda Whipped Cream
Vatika Frosting
*I use the Whipped Cream and Vatika Frosting now almost exclusively for my twist outs and wash-n-go's.*
CD Hair Milk
Salon Selectives Loosely Defined Curls(Discontinued, but I stocked up)
Spectrum Organic Coconut Oil
Aveda Brilliant Styling Creme
IC Hair Polisher Gel
Paul Mitchel Foaming Pomade
Sebastian Wet

Straight Hair Regimen-I straighten whenever I feel the need. When I straighten, I typically wrap my hair each night. I can only wear my hair straight for about 4 -5 days, because my hair starts looking limp and dull. I do a braidout or twistout for a week or two and then wash. I use the same shampoos and conditioners when I decided to straighten.

Styling Products for straight styles-I have started using a leave-in, heat protectant and a serum when straightening. Oil of any kind tends to weigh my hair down and I use it sparingly and mostly on my ends.

Spectrum Organic Virgin Coconut Oil
Paul Mitchel Super Skinny Serum
Jane Carter Nourish and Shine
Aveda Brilliant Gloss
IC Hair Polisher Serum

Heat Protection

Biosilk
CHI Silk Infusion
Nexxus Heat Protexx

Straightening Routine

I rarley rollerset anymore, it hurts my arms since my hair has grown. I use a blowdryer w/ comb attachment and dry in sections. Once my hair has been blowdried, I flat iron my hair with my Sedu(love this iron and highly recommend it). I flat iron in small sections, using a boar bristle brush and iron. I "chase the brush w/ the iron", this method works great for me and I never have to go over a section more than twice.

 

[FlowerHair]

^^^Thank you STLCoverGirl That was a very thorough and helpful post.
Your hair is gorgeous!

 

[ellehair]

Just finished reading thru 39 pages at work!! you ladies are all so inspirational.. thanks for sharing@!!!

 

[Ozma]

I'm not waist yet but I'm close to it. My regimen is very simple. Wash with diluted poo once a week. Bun for 3 days with conditioner on the last 4-6" of hair. Sealing hair with vasleine or oil (this also helps the hair lay down better). Take down and condition wash and redo bun with conditioner and bun for 3 more days. Detangling once a week.

DLewis,

That's a great, simple regimen. It looks like you've had a growth spurt lately.