Relaxed Hair Thread
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sunnieb
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@danysedai I never skipped a beat with my relaxers while pregnant.
No issues and my babies are fine. My doctor told me it wasn't a problem.
No issues and my babies are fine. My doctor told me it wasn't a problem.
danysedai
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I don't know if someone posted this youtuber, I like her hair and her bangs. Hers and Dolce's closet' bangs are the best I've seen on relaxed hair. She has a blog too.
And Dolce's closet regimen and bangs how to:
http://dolcescloset.blogspot.ca/2012/10/by-request-my-hair-my-regimen.html
http://dolcescloset.blogspot.ca/2014/10/by-request-how-i-cut-my-bangs.html
And Dolce's closet regimen and bangs how to:
http://dolcescloset.blogspot.ca/2012/10/by-request-my-hair-my-regimen.html
http://dolcescloset.blogspot.ca/2014/10/by-request-how-i-cut-my-bangs.html
danysedai
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I rinse the relaxer well, do the Affirm reconstructor, wait 5 minutes then neutralize.(as per Affirm relaxer instructions)
11228
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Thank you. I thought that is how its done but I wanted one of you knowledgable people to chime in
danysedai
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I found this on my copy of the Science of Black Hair
"The most critical point in the relaxing process occurs at the point after the relaxer is rinsed and just before the hair's ph is brought down via neutralization. It is at this point that the cutitle layers are most permeable and receptive to treatments. The purpose of the mid relaxer protein step is to neutralize the hair and deposit protein deep within the ravished cuticle while the hair is in the state that will allow for maximum penetration.
One common misconception about the relaxing process is that a shampoo is required to begin relaxer neutralization, and that relaxed hair continues to process until it is shampooed with a neutralizing shampoo. Relaxer neutralization, however, is simply a shift in the hair's ph from a high alkaline state back to the hair's naturally acidic state. Each product applied to the hair after a relaxer is rinsed out contributes to the gradual decreease in ph, and has a neutralizing effect on the hair fiber.
The initial warm water rinsing of the relaxer cream has a neutral ph of 7. This water alone helps to bring down the ph of freshly relaxed hair from a high 11 to 13 ph range to a lower, alkaline range of 8 to 11. This lower ph range is still higher than he hair's normal acidic ph of 5 but relaxer chemical reactions cannot continue full force at these lower ph levels. Conditioners are formulated at normalizing (acidic) phs of 3 to 5, which further neutralize the hair after the rinse and bring the hair's alkaline level under control."
Notice that she is not saying not to use a neutralizing shampoo, just that water and the mid step conditioner begin to lower the ph level. "if the hair's ph is not properly reduced or neutralized, the relaxer will continue to work on the bonds within the hair strand". She says to leave the neutralizing shampoo for a while undisturbed for 3 to 5 minutes in order to give it time to penetrate and change the ph.
Hope this helps
11228
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I found this on my copy of the Science of Black Hair
"The most critical point in the relaxing process occurs at the point after the relaxer is rinsed and just before the hair's ph is brought down via neutralization. It is at this point that the cutitle layers are most permeable and receptive to treatments. The purpose of the mid relaxer protein step is to neutralize the hair and deposit protein deep within the ravished cuticle while the hair is in the state that will allow for maximum penetration.
One common misconception about the relaxing process is that a shampoo is required to begin relaxer neutralization, and that relaxed hair continues to process until it is shampooed with a neutralizing shampoo. Relaxer neutralization, however, is simply a shift in the hair's ph from a high alkaline state back to the hair's naturally acidic state. Each product applied to the hair after a relaxer is rinsed out contributes to the gradual decreease in ph, and has a neutralizing effect on the hair fiber.
The initial warm water rinsing of the relaxer cream has a neutral ph of 7. This water alone helps to bring down the ph of freshly relaxed hair from a high 11 to 13 ph range to a lower, alkaline range of 8 to 11. This lower ph range is still higher than he hair's normal acidic ph of 5 but relaxer chemical reactions cannot continue full force at these lower ph levels. Conditioners are formulated at normalizing (acidic) phs of 3 to 5, which further neutralize the hair after the rinse and bring the hair's alkaline level under control."
Notice that she is not saying not to use a neutralizing shampoo, just that water and the mid step conditioner begin to lower the ph level. "if the hair's ph is not properly reduced or neutralized, the relaxer will continue to work on the bonds within the hair strand". She says to leave the neutralizing shampoo for a while undisturbed for 3 to 5 minutes in order to give it time to penetrate and change the ph.
Hope this helps
Thank you. That makes so much sense.
I have been eying this book, but the price is
danysedai
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It's SO worth it, you won't regret it. Besides, you'll be supporting a forum memberThank you. That makes so much sense.
I have been eying this book, but the price is
I got the ebook version.Seriously, there's so much information there, I go back to it from time to time.
Aggie
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I found this on my copy of the Science of Black Hair
"The most critical point in the relaxing process occurs at the point after the relaxer is rinsed and just before the hair's ph is brought down via neutralization. It is at this point that the cutitle layers are most permeable and receptive to treatments. The purpose of the mid relaxer protein step is to neutralize the hair and deposit protein deep within the ravished cuticle while the hair is in the state that will allow for maximum penetration.
One common misconception about the relaxing process is that a shampoo is required to begin relaxer neutralization, and that relaxed hair continues to process until it is shampooed with a neutralizing shampoo. Relaxer neutralization, however, is simply a shift in the hair's ph from a high alkaline state back to the hair's naturally acidic state. Each product applied to the hair after a relaxer is rinsed out contributes to the gradual decreease in ph, and has a neutralizing effect on the hair fiber.
The initial warm water rinsing of the relaxer cream has a neutral ph of 7. This water alone helps to bring down the ph of freshly relaxed hair from a high 11 to 13 ph range to a lower, alkaline range of 8 to 11. This lower ph range is still higher than he hair's normal acidic ph of 5 but relaxer chemical reactions cannot continue full force at these lower ph levels. Conditioners are formulated at normalizing (acidic) phs of 3 to 5, which further neutralize the hair after the rinse and bring the hair's alkaline level under control."
Notice that she is not saying not to use a neutralizing shampoo, just that water and the mid step conditioner begin to lower the ph level. "if the hair's ph is not properly reduced or neutralized, the relaxer will continue to work on the bonds within the hair strand". She says to leave the neutralizing shampoo for a while undisturbed for 3 to 5 minutes in order to give it time to penetrate and change the ph.
Hope this helps
I've been practicing this method since 2008 and I have to agree it works so well. Audrey Sivasothy really knows her stuff. There are so many nuggets to learn and practice in this book that can save your hair
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Aggie
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Actually it appear as though you are MBL in these photos. If your hair is wet, it will appear longer so wait until it's dry and take another pic, but only if it's wet now in these pics.
11228
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Aggie
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Yes it is. I believe you have passed BSL and is at MBL
CodeRed
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Girl if your bra was way down there I'd ask you to either do something about getting those girls lifted or get someone to help you with a proper bra fitting
11228
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Girl if your bra was way down there I'd ask you to either do something about getting those girls lifted or get someone to help you with a proper bra fitting
LOL! I've been known to literally drag down my bra when I wear semi backless tops/dresses
sunnieb
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MzSwift
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Finally finished my hair. Relaxed, DC'd, blow dry and flat ironed. No more direct heat until my next relaxer in December. I'm going to learn how to wet wrap like this lady:
She helped me to realize I've been wrapping my hair all wrong (i've never had long hair in my life until I started my HHJ a few years ago). I used to wrap it like Sista w Real Hair does, starting from the front. This lady wraps from the back. I'm going to see how that goes. I'm only going to wrap after my weekly wash and DC. I'll maintain nightly by cross wrapping or Bantu knotting.
She helped me to realize I've been wrapping my hair all wrong (i've never had long hair in my life until I started my HHJ a few years ago). I used to wrap it like Sista w Real Hair does, starting from the front. This lady wraps from the back. I'm going to see how that goes. I'm only going to wrap after my weekly wash and DC. I'll maintain nightly by cross wrapping or Bantu knotting.
I think I will start Saran wrapping my hair like this
just for the straightness. My hair is not liking air drying anymore at all. It ends up looking crunchy no matter what I do to it. I'm sure the summer heat is sucking out what moisture is in it anyway making it even harder to tell which direction to go.
just for the straightness. My hair is not liking air drying anymore at all. It ends up looking crunchy no matter what I do to it. I'm sure the summer heat is sucking out what moisture is in it anyway making it even harder to tell which direction to go.
MzSwift
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@SuchaLady
Yes! That's exactly what led me to wet wrapping. My hair doesn't airdry well. I saw the saran wrap and realized ppl were doing it after a rollerset. My rollersetting skills are non-existent. Lol. I was hoping to see someone do a saran wrap on airdried hair. Dunno if that's possible though.
Yes! That's exactly what led me to wet wrapping. My hair doesn't airdry well. I saw the saran wrap and realized ppl were doing it after a rollerset. My rollersetting skills are non-existent. Lol. I was hoping to see someone do a saran wrap on airdried hair. Dunno if that's possible though.
MzSwift
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Thanks, lady!
Both are good for not using direct heat. I think the second lady might've used too many products so hers had a little less body than I liked. I think my hair is too long to lie that flat
Either way, I'm excited about finding no direct heat options for straight results.
Both are good for not using direct heat. I think the second lady might've used too many products so hers had a little less body than I liked. I think my hair is too long to lie that flat
Either way, I'm excited about finding no direct heat options for straight results.
danysedai
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I got an appointment for Monday with a local hairdresser(she has cut my hair before but we've never done color although I've seen her work). I am finally ready to go lighter in color. My greys are super abundant now and maintaining black hair and greys is a pain and I have to retouch very often due to the grays being very visible. She told me she can do an Olaplex treatment and go lighter. I don't want to go very light this time, maybe a brownish red like this Gina Torres photo.
I'm crossing fingers and toes!!! Will report back. I'm telling myself I'll be ok if I have to cut it to APL (currently BSL and a bit beyond) as I'm tired of my hair right now. In the future I would like to go lighter so the grays are better camouflaged.
Am I crazy?!! lol
I'm crossing fingers and toes!!! Will report back. I'm telling myself I'll be ok if I have to cut it to APL (currently BSL and a bit beyond) as I'm tired of my hair right now. In the future I would like to go lighter so the grays are better camouflaged.
Am I crazy?!! lol
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