How do you feel about members creating their own sites and charging?

I don't care if not one person agrees with me. I'm not tryna sway your thoughts. I can agree to disagree. Like earlier stated, I just wanted to see others perspectives on this topic and some members have posted some well thought out posts that i really appreciate (like the poster who said The publishers of textbooks didn't create the their topic of discussion), and their perspectives are very different from mine...and that's fine.

Obviously you do care :grin:. Your "thanks" indicate that.

Now lemme ask you this....how many women on this site ask for the ingredient list to some artisinal product line (usually BW owned) and then go out and try to make it themselves? A few have even tried to sell what they made. What of those who write books? If you're gonna put "copycat" sites on blast, what of the lard merchants who clearly developed their prods off other folks' work?

If anybody has a right to complain in my book, it's Wanakee. How many people have bitten off her over the years?
 
I made my own version of Boundless Tresses but I'm not out there trying to sell it like I thought it up on my own. I'm just a cheapo who would rather spend $5 on the ingredients and make it myself than to pay someone else $14 + shipping to sell me the same exact thing.
 
I don't see anything wrong with asking for donations. I have given to a few blogs that I frequent every day and can find a wealth of information.

.....especially since some people ignore newbies here (don't look at me) or tell them to use the search option instead of answering their questions, then I can see where someone can get frustrated and want to pay that fee.

At the end of the day its up to each individual to pay or not to pay......
If that Aint the Truth i dont know what is... I didnt pay 6.50 just to search... I could have done that for free.. I paid to POSt and ASk questions... If you're not going to answer the question, the dont tell me to do a search.... Ughhhh.. I really HATE that w/ a passion!!!!
 
Obviously you do care :grin:. Your "thanks" indicate that.

Now lemme ask you this....how many women on this site ask for the ingredient list to some artisinal product line (usually BW owned) and then go out and try to make it themselves? A few have even tried to sell what they made. What of those who write books? If you're gonna put "copycat" sites on blast, what of the lard merchants who clearly developed their prods off other folks' work?

If anybody has a right to complain in my book, it's Wanakee. How many people have bitten off her over the years?

.......... You a thread killer fareal
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:lachen:I kid I kid:lachen:

...You got a hairsite you wanna publicize in my thread? :look:

But seriously....

For the last time, I'm not going to say either of people's perspectives is wrong or right. Your perspective is based on how you see the world.

In my perspective, the people who are making products and selling them are designing their product because it's not an exact replica of a previous oil or whatever. They have researched and tweaked it to make it better. Much like what others do in inventions such as the computer and etc. So it is "their creation." But others just copy and paste some info from stickies on LHCF, but them in a nice HTML format, and present them as their own. If that was done at a university, it would be called plagiarism. What's different in this instance?
 
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I've said it once and i'll say it again "respect the hustle and go get your hustle on as well". They aren't forcing you to purchase anything so in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter.
 
If that Aint the Truth i dont know what is... I didnt pay 6.50 just to search... I could have done that for free.. I paid to POSt and ASk questions... If you're not going to answer the question, the dont tell me to do a search.... Ughhhh.. I really HATE that w/ a passion!!!!

SN: I keep checking out your booty in this siggy pic. :lachen::lachen: I feel so homo now. lol. No homo. lol :lachen:
 
As far as telling newbies to do a search....sometimes I do answer their questions but when I was a hair care newbie I searched for my questions to see if it has already been answered long before I showed up. If not, THEN i would post and ask my question. There is a wealth of knowledge and we should not have to recite what co-washing is 329867986 times a day because a newb is too lazy to type in 2 words and click Search.
 
I think it's smart....people are willing to pay for it so it's fine for them to be able to do so. However, I prefer cheaper alternatives with a wider range of people to get well rounded opinions from than personal websites that charge.
 
I want to thank you for asking this question because I've been a little afraid to ask it :look:. I started paying for a hair site (which will remain nameless because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings or start no mess) about three months ago and I don't think it is worth the money to pay for this particular site.....but all of the info that is on their is just para-phrased from other articles, books, blogs, etc. I don't feel it's right to "copy and paste info" from other sources and charge members to use it. Plus, the content isn't updated enough to keep me interested let alone pay for it with my hard earned money. There are also other hair boards that are NOT charging that are very informative and are updated with enough info that includes lots of pics, videos, DIY tutorials and so much more. But to answer the question, No. I don't feel it is right to charge for info that came from other sources that you could have googled to find out FOR FREE instead of paying for the same info on a hair site. If this was the case I could've made my own blog a looong time ago and charged some money too. This is the only site that I am going to continue to pay for and I will be donating to the ones that are free :yep:
 
It's prolly stepping on some toes, but I don't like it. We all were given a wealth of information on hair, health, wealth, and more. They include some GREAT tips to get you to your goal, but do you think it's right to basically paraphrase that info and make a profit off of it?

Maybe I'm just bitter. lol Broke college student tsk tsk. I need to make some money too lol. But it just doesn't seem that's the way to do it.
I think that there is enough free information available for everyone. The only way paying would make sense to me is if a service is being offered. For example paying for a one on one personal consultation, having live support from the individual or getting discounts on products. There has to be a value that goes above and beyond what is currently accessible to the general public. Now don't get me wrong I did check out Marcheriamour's page again just to see if you still had to pay to join the other day, LOL! I was a little peeved becuase I loved watching her videos etc. lol But overall I think the AA community needs to get our hands on this Billion dollar industry that we pay into.
 
I want to thank you for asking this question because I've been a little afraid to ask it :look:. I started paying for a hair site (which will remain nameless because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings or start no mess) about three months ago and I don't think it is worth the money to pay for this particular site.....but all of the info that is on their is just para-phrased from other articles, books, blogs, etc. I don't feel it's right to "copy and paste info" from other sources and charge members to use it. Plus, the content isn't updated enough to keep me interested let alone pay for it with my hard earned money. There are also other hair boards that are NOT charging that are very informative and are updated with enough info that includes lots of pics, videos, DIY tutorials and so much more. But to answer the question, No. I don't feel it is right to charge for info that came from other sources that you could have googled to find out FOR FREE instead of paying for the same info on a hair site. If this was the case I could've made my own blog a looong time ago and charged some money too. This is the only site that I am going to continue to pay for and I will be donating to the ones that are free :yep:

Yeah that's why I will always donate to LHCF. I really appreciate what they're doing for the African American community. Many of us are just clueless when it comes to haircare, and this site gives us everything we need for FREE.99 .If you wanna pay $6.50 that's just for extras.
 
Technically, isn't the information here free? You pay to be able to participate in the community. The information itself is available to any lurker or google searcher.
 
That was my point! I'd much rather see "us" make money off our hair care than "them". I especially find it annoying when "they" pretend to know so much about our needs. I understand them being in business so long and all, but they will NEVER quite understand what it means to be AA, so put away the fakeness and "Hey Homegirls", my real friends don't even call me "homegirl"!
 
I think this is a double edge sword. Blacks lament the fact hat there are not a enough black owned businesses and then have issues when someone takes a leap of faith to try one. If you don't want to pay for info that you can find for free don't do it! The yearly $6.50 fee for this site is peanuts and I have a head full of healthy hair. I'm clear that someone else pay not have peanuts to spare and I want to ensure that women of color have a resource regarding hair care. I just donated to K.I.S.S because I want to see women who have the will to start something supported by their own.
 
If people got women giving up $100 a year for this same info then they're good. Wouldn't be me.

It's one thing to charge but that's just ridiculous.
 
JMO...I joined this site because...

A. The info given and the search feature is just great.
B. I love all the different forums.
C. I love opinions I don't always want just the good or bad, I want reality.


and to me this is what makes LHCF. I pay my $6.50/yr just for that...now on the flipside if it got too catty, threads stopped making sense, or somehow LHCF just burst into flames I would go somewhere else and if I had to pay $10.00/mo, then so be it as I am not a hair guru. I don't have the niche for hair thats why I pay for the help. When it comes to my health, hair and really just me period I am willing to invest in someone else for their experience, mentoring and education especially if you are where I want to be...you invest in schools, stocks/financial, work, etc...to me my haircare is no different.

Looking at my PJ stash...Hell if the haircare companies is making money off of ya'll recommendations...cause grant it I base most of my purchases off of what ya'll experiences are and ya'lls unofficial marketing ya'll be doing on here...sheez I would imagine more of ya'll would be making websites/forums than making threads...IMO

...and to sum it all up I am paying for the convenience of having all the haircare information I need in one place. I do research all day at work I don't have time to be all across the web looking for hair info as good black haircare info is pretty scarce anywho...
 
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I think this is a double edge sword. Blacks lament the fact hat there are not a enough black owned businesses and then have issues when someone takes a leap of faith to try one. If you don't want to pay for info that you can find for free don't do it! The yearly $6.50 fee for this site is peanuts and I have a head full of healthy hair. I'm clear that someone else pay not have peanuts to spare and I want to ensure that women of color have a resource regarding hair care. I just donated to K.I.S.S because I want to see women who have the will to start something supported by their own.

You got me to thinking, I just may put some money where my mouth has been too.
 
Probably Pinkskates' site. I'm not 100% sure,but i think so.

Chicoro is Robin from growafrohairlong.com???!!!I had no idea!

REALLY???????????? This is going to sound bad but, I think I just gained more respect for growafrohairlong. I had seen that website a long time ago and am an avid practicer of C&G but other than the one video on the website about her hair, you don't really know anything about "Robin." Chicoro on the other hand is very well known. I have stalked her fotki and her post for the longest. I guess she's not trying to pressure people to go to her website and just participates here as she always has and not end up in one of the "-gate" threads. Which is great.

*sneaks over to revist growafrohairlong*

She would definitely have more vistors, I suspect, if people knew that "Robin" and Chicoro were the same person.
 
I pay here because I know it takes time to manage a site and hosting isnt free I dont feel like the owner is doing this for profit

However with the site in question the fact that I can no longer visit said person fotki, see youtube videos all things that were once free! I dunno it kinda bugs me... I feel like that individual is trying to make a profit off of me for advice...not a product. And Im too far along in my journey and know too much about my hair to pay for advice.... esp when you wanna charge more than LHCF.

but honestly im only one person and it only bugs me! im sure plenty of ppl are fine with it and if they like it I love it! Your just not getting my money as others have said B4!


You can still see her fotki and videos.......I believe.
 
I disbelieve Chicoro and Robin are the same person. Chicoro has a book titled Grow Afro Hair Long or something to that effect. But she's very humble with hers. The book is on Amazon

ETA: Had to remove are not... lol .... and the book is called GRO it! sorry
 
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REALLY???????????? This is going to sound bad but, I think I just gained more respect for growafrohairlong. I had seen that website a long time ago and am an avid practicer of C&G but other than the one video on the website about her hair, you don't really know anything about "Robin." Chicoro on the other hand is very well known. I have stalked her fotki and her post for the longest. I guess she's not trying to pressure people to go to her website and just participates here as she always has and not end up in one of the "-gate" threads. Which is great.

*sneaks over to revist growafrohairlong*

She would definitely have more vistors, I suspect, if people knew that "Robin" and Chicoro were the same person.

Actually, that is not her.
She does have a blog though:
http://beautifybitbybit-chicoro.blogspot.com/

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
REALLY???????????? This is going to sound bad but, I think I just gained more respect for growafrohairlong. I had seen that website a long time ago and am an avid practicer of C&G but other than the one video on the website about her hair, you don't really know anything about "Robin." Chicoro on the other hand is very well known. I have stalked her fotki and her post for the longest. I guess she's not trying to pressure people to go to her website and just participates here as she always has and not end up in one of the "-gate" threads. Which is great.

*sneaks over to revist growafrohairlong*

She would definitely have more vistors, I suspect, if people knew that "Robin" and Chicoro were the same person.

I'm positive Robin and Chicoro are not the same person. If you go to robin's site, she says she is relaxed and grew her hair out using braids. Chicoro is natural and grew her hair out by baggying and wearing buns/ponytails (if I recall correctly).

Chicoro's book is called Grow it!. Maybe the previous poster got the two titles mixed up.
 
REALLY???????????? This is going to sound bad but, I think I just gained more respect for growafrohairlong. I had seen that website a long time ago and am an avid practicer of C&G but other than the one video on the website about her hair, you don't really know anything about "Robin." Chicoro on the other hand is very well known. I have stalked her fotki and her post for the longest. I guess she's not trying to pressure people to go to her website and just participates here as she always has and not end up in one of the "-gate" threads. Which is great.

*sneaks over to revist growafrohairlong*

She would definitely have more vistors, I suspect, if people knew that "Robin" and Chicoro were the same person.
nevermind, thinking of another site!

spoke too soon!
 
I'm positive Robin and Chicoro are not the same person. If you go to robin's site, she says she is relaxed and grew her hair out using braids. Chicoro is natural and grew her hair out by baggying and wearing buns/ponytails (if I recall correctly).

Chicoro's book is called Grow it!. Maybe the previous poster got the two titles mixed up.
oh ok , maybe I didnt speak too soon on my edited post

I'm confused

I'm thinking of the site years ago , the grow with braids method?
 
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