Homosexuality and Old Testament v. New Testament Law?

That has always been my question. Was there an actual day of the week established, or can any day of rest in honor of the Lord out of the 7 be designated as a Sabbath? I believe you answered that for me.
Nope, no set day for church service. Some folks in Acts gathered daily. Keeping the sabbath holy does not mean go to church on Saturday. We out of tradition attend church service on Sunday because Jesus rose on Sunday morning. It has nothing to do with the O.T. sabbath. Many churches have worship service several days a week.
 
Nope, no set day for church service. Some folks in Acts gathered daily. Keeping the sabbath holy does not mean go to church on Saturday. We out of tradition attend church service on Sunday because Jesus rose on Sunday morning. It has nothing to do with the O.T. sabbath. Many churches have worship service several days a week.

Honestly, I am not about the semantics. I am about Christ's example. There is nothing wrong with going to church multiple times a week. However, Christ recognized the 7th day as Sabbath, went to synagogue on Sabbath and kept the Sabbath holy.

I understand you tradition, but I don't not put it above the Bible. Today people have claimed that the Sabbath is changed to Sunday, and thus that there is no need to keep God's Sabbath holy. For that reason, they attend church on Sunday as a replacement for the Sabbath. This is the crux of the discussion. It is not Biblical.

The O.T. and N.T. debate is one that will go on until the second coming, but I believe the Bible is clear on what was nailed to the cross and what continues today and forever.

Take care.
 
It says the 7th day is the Sabbath. Do you disagree that the 7th day happens to fall on Saturday?

One of the sabbaths falls on a Saturday. He established MANY sabbaths. Where does it say IN THE BIBLE that we are to have church services on Saturday in order to keep the sabbath holy. I just want the verse. What does the Lord say IN THE BIBLE that we are to do to keep the sabbath holy. Is having worship service on Saturday one of the requirements to keep the sabbath holy stated in the Word of God? I'm not trying to be funny or anything. It may say it, I don't know but I do not recall the scripture that says that we are to go to church on a specific day in accordance to keeping the sabbath holy.
 
All of the Ten Commandments are repeated/shown in the New Testament and Jesus followed them and taught them. That's the explicit instruction in the New Testament. However, because Jesus is our sacrificial Lamb, we now need no other.

Matthew 5:17-19 (King James Version) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

See what Jesus told this man about his own salvation:

Matthew 19:16-21
And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.


What you just stated my brother 2 weeks ago was telling me the same thing! This is so true. We just had a discusson on what you just said! God is so Good thank you for bringing this statement to light!
 
Honestly, I am not about the semantics. I am about Christ's example. There is nothing wrong with going to church multiple times a week. However, Christ recognized the 7th day as Sabbath, went to synagogue on Sabbath and kept the Sabbath holy.

I understand you tradition, but I don't not put it above the Bible. Today people have claimed that the Sabbath is changed to Sunday, and thus that there is no need to keep God's Sabbath holy. For that reason, they attend church on Sunday as a replacement for the Sabbath. This is the crux of the discussion. It is not Biblical.

The O.T. and N.T. debate is one that will go on until the second coming, but I believe the Bible is clear on what was nailed to the cross and what continues today and forever.

Take care.
It's not about semantics it's about biblical facts. Jesus went to the synagoue on Saturday and preached because it was the tradition of the Jews, not a commandment of God to worship on Saturday. It would not have made sense for Him to go on a day when they weren't there. Jesus waited until Lazarus had been dead for three days before He raised him from the dead because it was a belief of the Jews that it took three days for the soul to leave the body. THEY believed that, the Lord never said that. If He had raised Him right away some would have said the he wasn't really dead.
We are not required to carry on the traditions of the Jews. Not going to church on Saturday does not defile the sabbath because the Lord never said go to church on Saturday the sabbath.
 
It's not about semantics it's about biblical facts. Jesus went to the synagoue on Saturday and preached because it was the tradition of the Jews, not a commandment of God to worship on Saturday. It would not have made sense for Him to go on a day when they weren't there. Jesus waited until Lazarus had been dead for three days before He raised him from the dead because it was a belief of the Jews that it took three days for the soul to leave the body. THEY believed that, the Lord never said that. If He had raised Him right away some would have said the he wasn't really dead.
We are not required to carry on the traditions of the Jews. Not going to church on Saturday does not defile the sabbath because the Lord never said go to church on Saturday the sabbath.

So you do not believe that the fact that the Jews went to the synagogue as part of their Sabbath observance had anything to do with the God given Ten Commandments?
 
So you do not believe that the fact that the Jews went to the synagogue as part of their Sabbath observance had anything to do with the God given Ten Commandments?
Where is the scripture that says that He required them to attend service on Saturdays to keep the sabbath holy? Where do it say that? What they chose to do and what He told them to do are to different things. Where does it say that He said that that is part of keeping the sabbath holy?
 
What do sabbath keepers take these verses to mean:

Col. 2:16,17

Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day--
things which are a {mere} shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.


Rm 14:5-6
One person regards one day above another, another regards every day {alike.} Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.
He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.
 
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One of the sabbaths falls on a Saturday. He established MANY sabbaths. Where does it say IN THE BIBLE that we are to have church services on Saturday in order to keep the sabbath holy. I just want the verse. What does the Lord say IN THE BIBLE that we are to do to keep the sabbath holy. Is having worship service on Saturday one of the requirements to keep the sabbath holy stated in the Word of God? I'm not trying to be funny or anything. It may say it, I don't know but I do not recall the scripture that says that we are to go to church on a specific day in accordance to keeping the sabbath holy.

The Ten Commandments state that the 7th day Sabbath is the Sabbath of the Lord our God. There were also ceremonial Sabbaths that are now unnecessary, see Colossians 2. Those kinds of Sabbaths were to be done away with. Those sabbaths pointed to when Christ was to come the first time. When the Jews came together on those sabbaths, animals were sacrificed. Their blood represented Christ. Now that the Christ had come, there was no need for those sabbaths. The sacrificial/ceremonial law is now not need because of Christ's death on the cross.

Ok, I understand what you are trying to say here. Maybe I am not at all being clear. Keeping the Sabbath holy does not mean that you or I cannot go to church and worship God on any other day of the week. But is the fact that Christ did so and the fact that we are to follow His example as part of Sabbath observance - Godly centered activity - not enough? It is His example that we should follow. Luke 4:16, Luke 4:31, Acts 18:4

Remember also that church doesn't necessarily mean going to a building etc, but where 2 or 3 people are gathered in His name, He is there. However, again, no other day can be kept holy and put in place of the 7th day Sabbath.
 
What do sabbath keepers take these verses to mean:

Col. 2:16,17

Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day--
things which are a {mere} shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.


Rm 14:5-6
One person regards one day above another, another regards every day {alike.} Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.
He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.


I just answered that above...but here is a very in depth discussion.

http://www.colossians-2-16.com/CeremonialLaw.pdf
 
What you just stated my brother 2 weeks ago was telling me the same thing! This is so true. We just had a discusson on what you just said! God is so Good thank you for bringing this statement to light!

You're welcome! It's a really good discussion. It took me awhile to understand and I am still learning...
 
Regarding how long Christians have worshipped on Sunday, please refer to the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Day
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_in_Christianity

Constanstine decreed Sunday as the day of worship in 321 A.D.
St. Ignatius (30-107 A.D.) advocated Sunday worship long before Constantine.

"We have seen how former adherents of the ancient customs have since attained to a new hope; so that they have given up keeping the sabbath, and now order their lives by the Lord's Day instead (the day when life first dawned for us, thanks to Him and His death.)"

– Ignatius, To the Magnesians, chapter 9 (trans. Maxwell Staniforth)
 
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The Ten Commandments state that the 7th day Sabbath is the Sabbath of the Lord our God. There were also ceremonial Sabbaths that are now unnecessary, see Colossians 2. Those kinds of Sabbaths were to be done away with. Those sabbaths pointed to when Christ was to come the first time. When the Jews came together on those sabbaths, animals were sacrificed. Their blood represented Christ. Now that the Christ had come, there was no need for those sabbaths. The sacrificial/ceremonial law is now not need because of Christ's death on the cross.

Ok, I understand what you are trying to say here. Maybe I am not at all being clear. Keeping the Sabbath holy does not mean that you or I cannot go to church and worship God on any other day of the week. But is the fact that Christ did so and the fact that we are to follow His example as part of Sabbath observance - Godly centered activity - not enough? It is His example that we should follow. Luke 4:16, Luke 4:31, Acts 18:4

Remember also that church doesn't necessarily mean going to a building etc, but where 2 or 3 people are gathered in His name, He is there. However, again, no other day can be kept holy and put in place of the 7th day Sabbath.
I know what He did, how He did it and why He did it. What I'm asking you is where is the scripture where Jesus or the Father or anybody in fact in the Holy Bible says that going to church on the sabbath the seventh day from the 10 commandments is a way to keep the sabbath holy. Some examples that Jesus set that I have not done: raise people from the dead, nope never done that, turned water into wine, nope sure wish I could, restore blinded eyes, nope ain't done that either. I do follow His example of loving my enemy, doing unto others as I would have Jesus do unto me and loving God above all others. He went to the synagogue of the Jews and preached the gospel on the sabbath to the Jews. Is that what you do on Saturdays since we are to follow His example right?
I just want the scripture that says keeping the sabbath holy and attending service on Saturday mean the same thing?
 
Do sabbath keepers believe keeping any other day then Saturday takes them out of right standing with God?
 
Regarding how long Christians have worshipped on Sunday, please refer to the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Day
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_in_Christianity

Constanstine decreed Sunday as the day of worship in 321 A.D.
St. Ignatius (30-107 A.D.) advocated Sunday worship long before Constantine.

"We have seen how former adherents of the ancient customs have since attained to a new hope; so that they have given up keeping the sabbath, and now order their lives by the Lord's Day instead (the day when life first dawned for us, thanks to Him and His death.)"

– Ignatius, To the Magnesians, chapter 9 (trans. Maxwell Staniforth)

But it was not made "mandatory" for Christians unless the latter occasion. That's is when it is claim that the Sabbath was officially changed, but no man can do so. Only God can.
 
I know what He did, how He did it and why He did it. What I'm asking you is where is the scripture where Jesus or the Father or anybody in fact in the Holy Bible says that going to church on the sabbath the seventh day from the 10 commandments is a way to keep the sabbath holy. Some examples that Jesus set that I have not done: raise people from the dead, nope never done that, turned water into wine, nope sure wish I could, restore blinded eyes, nope ain't done that either. I do follow His example of loving my enemy, doing unto others as I would have Jesus do unto me and loving God above all others. He went to the synagogue of the Jews and preached the gospel on the sabbath to the Jews. Is that what you do on Saturdays since we are to follow His example right?
I just want the scripture that says keeping the sabbath holy and attending service on Saturday mean the same thing?

If Jesus' example is not enough, I can give you nothing else.

Why would keeping the Sabbath holy and attending service on Saturday mean the same thing? The latter, the assembly of ourselves, is only part of the former, given in Christ's example.
 
Do sabbath keepers believe keeping any other day then Saturday takes them out of right standing with God?

We believe that we cannot keep any other day holy. If we choose not to keep the 7th-Day Sabbath holy, then we have broken the 4th commandment as that is what it requires.
 
If Jesus' example is not enough, I can give you nothing else.

Why would keeping the Sabbath holy and attending service on Saturday mean the same thing? The latter, the assembly of ourselves, is only part of the former, given in Christ's example.

You can give me nothing else because there is nothing else to give.There is NO scripture, there is no where in the Holy bible that says that we are to attend service on Saturday's in accordance to keeping the sabbath holy. The is no where in the Holy bible where God the Father, Jesus, the Holy Ghost, the Apostles or anyone else says or even implies that attending church on Saturday is in accordance to keeping the sabbath holy. Jesus never said nor anyone else say that He was attending the synogogue in appliance to keeping the sabbath holy. If you want to say that we should attend Saturday service because Jesus did it then fine BUT to say that it is a requirement to keep the sabbath holy....nope.
 
You can give me nothing else because there is nothing else to give.There is NO scripture, there is no where in the Holy bible that says that we are to attend service on Saturday's in accordance to keeping the sabbath holy. The is no where in the Holy bible where God the Father, Jesus, the Holy Ghost, the Apostles or anyone else says or even implies that attending church on Saturday is in accordance to keeping the sabbath holy. Jesus never said nor anyone else say that He was attending the synogogue in appliance to keeping the sabbath holy. If you want to say that we should attend Saturday service because Jesus did it then fine BUT to say that it is a requirement to keep the sabbath holy....nope.

The Scriptures are there and were provided - those that included Christ's example of doing the same. Now personally, I choose to take Christ's example and follow it. If for you that is not enough, that is of course, your choice of belief. If you believe that Christ's presence every Sabbath in the synagogue had nothing to do with His keeping of the Sabbath holy and thus there is no requirement, then again, that is is your choice. But the Bible does say to forsake not the assembling of ourselves and because Christ did such every Sabbath, I believe that the Bible is clear. But we can agree to disagree.

I realize that you got the idea from my response to you, that I meant the you cannot worship God on Sunday. What I said was the required Sunday worship came about through Constantine and Catholicism working together. You claimed that this was done because Christ rose on the first day of the week. I disagreed with the origins, not the reason that you do so today.
 
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The Scriptures are there and were provided - those that included Christ's example of doing the same. Now personally, I choose to take Christ's example and follow it. If for you that is not enough, that is of course, your choice of belief. If you believe that Christ's presence every Sabbath in the synagogue had nothing to do with His keeping of the Sabbath holy and thus there is no requirement, then again, that is is your choice. But the Bible does say to forsake not the assembling of ourselves and because Christ did such every Sabbath, I believe that the Bible is clear. But we can agree to disagree.

I realize that you got the idea from my response to you, that I meant the you cannot worship God on Sunday. What I said was the required Sunday worship came about through Constantine and Catholicism working together. You claimed that this was done because Christ rose on the first day of the week. I disagreed with the origins, not the reason that you do so today.
What I'm saying is that going to church on Saturday or any other day doesn't keep the sabbath holy. Jesus went on Saturday because it was the tradition of the Jews, TRADITION not law from God to worship on Saturday which I by the way have no problem with. If they went on Wednesday then He would have preached on Wednesday's.
Where does it show the Apostles who followed Jesus' example right attended service on Saturdays? Where in their instruction does it say that we are to worship on Saturday. The bible is a very exact detailed book. Where in those details does it say Saturday worship service is required to keep the sabbath holy or required period? The ten commandents are broken down thoroughly. When the Lord gives instruction on the sabbath where does He say that they must attend the synagogue on that day to keep it holy? Attending church service and keeping the sabbath holy are to completely different things.
 
What I'm saying is that going to church on Saturday or any other day doesn't keep the sabbath holy. Jesus went on Saturday because it was the tradition of the Jews, TRADITION not law from God to worship on Saturday which I by the way have no problem with. If they went on Wednesday then He would have preached on Wednesday's.
Where does it show the Apostles who followed Jesus' example right attended service on Saturdays? Where in their instruction does it say that we are to worship on Saturday. The bible is a very exact detailed book. Where in those details does it say Saturday worship service is required to keep the sabbath holy or required period? The ten commandents are broken down thoroughly. When the Lord gives instruction on the sabbath where does He say that they must attend the synagogue on that day to keep it holy? Attending church service and keeping the sabbath holy are to completely different things.

Well, I guess we have totally different views on the matter. It seems that we also have a different view of what what "church" or maybe the words "worship service" mean. I do though believe that worship is part of keeping the Sabbath holy. The 10 Commandments does not go into much detail but personally, I do believe Christ gives us the example of how to live our lives. Further, the Bible calls the 7th-Day Sabbath, a day of holy convocation. A convocation means that people come together for a particular reason. It is discussed in Leviticus 23 where the Lord again distinguishes between the 7th Day Sabbath and the ceremonial Sabbaths. Again however, we will likely differ there based on beliefs in the Old and New Testament.

Anyway, I do have to run, but will check in later. Thanks you very much for the discussion. Even though we may not agree, it helps to solidify our faith in the Lord and reliance on the Word. Take Care and God Bless!
 
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Well, I guess we have totally different views on the matter. It seems that we also have a different view of what what "church" or maybe the words "worship service" mean. I do though believe that worship is part of keeping the Sabbath holy. The 10 Commandments does not go into much detail but personally, I do believe Christ gives us the example of how to live our lives. Further, the Bible calls the 7th-Day Sabbath, a day of holy convocation. A convocation means that people come together for a particular reason. It is discussed in Leviticus 23 where the Lord again distinguishes between the 7th Day Sabbath and the ceremonial Sabbaths. Again, we will likely differ there based on beliefs in the Old and New Testament.

Anyway, I do have to run, but will check in later. Thanks you very much for the discussion. Even though we may not agree, it helps to solidify our faith in the Lord and reliance on the Word. Take Care and God Bless!
The holy convovation is to a sabbath in the seventh month in Lev.23. That's also not the only days He says for them to have holy convocations. There are more than 10 commandments. In the book of Leviticus the Lord explains how to obey each commandment INCLUDING keeping the sabbath holy and He does not mention having church services (per my description or yours) on that day is required to keep it holy unless I missed that part.
The bible says that Jesus went to the synogogue on the sabbath as was His CUSTOM/habit/tradition. Not that He went to the synogogue on the sabbath because He was required by the law to do so on Saturday.
I believe that we are to keep the sabbath holy not that it can only be done on Saturdays but everyday. I believe that we are to live by Jesus' example but not copy ALL of His works and actions. That's ot what that means, if it did I would have to get baptized in the Jordan river etc.
 
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The holy convovation is to a sabbath in the seventh month in Lev.23. That's also not the only days He says for them to have holy convocations. There are more than 10 commandments. In the book of Leviticus the Lord explains how to obey each commandment INCLUDING keeping the sabbath holy and He does not mention having church services (per my description or yours) on that day is required to keep it holy unless I missed that part.
The bible says that Jesus went to the synogogue on the sabbath as was His CUSTOM/habit/tradition. Not that He went to the synogogue on the sabbath because He was required by the law to do so on Saturday.
I believe that we are to keep the sabbath holy not that it can only be done on Saturdays but everyday. I believe that we are to live by Jesus' example but not copy ALL of His works and actions. That's ot what that means, if it did I would have to get baptized in the Jordan river etc.

Lev. 23 sets out holy convocation the 7th Day Sabbath (first) as well as for ceremonial sabbaths (second). Church services/convocation are not necessarily different in my belief - it's assembly. I have met for church in someone's home, or in the park etc., on Sabbath with fellow believers. It is the same thing as Jesus going to the synagogue. Being physically in a synagogue is not the only way to fulfill holy convocation, so maybe that why in one of the verses - not all- that it points out that it was His custom.

Yea, we will have to disagree. In my belief, keeping the Sabbath holy means that 7th Day Sabbath which it specifically set out in the Ten Commandments. Some things are more specific than others in the Bible. It's certainly not unreasonable to do, while still following Him everyday. But that's me though...

Just curious? Do you choose any day of the week to keep holy in general or do have you chosen specific day? For example, where I live, the Lutherans keep sundays instead of the Sabbath. But similarly, they do no work etc. I shop at their grocery, and they close on Sunday.
 
Here is a guy that I like on youtube describing what laws were nailed to the cross(meaning which laws were fulfilled and we no longer had to live under them) He does a great job of explaining and cross referencing the OT and NT laws. Just click the link Part 1 Part 2

Now, as far as my own opinion on it. Jesus said himself that he didn't come to make the Laws go away. What he did was to fulfill the laws. A lot of the old laws included sacraficial practices and ceromonies that were used for the purpose of purification before God. Now that we have the blood of Jesus to wash us clean, we no longer need ceremonies and stuff to purify us. Now the 10 Commandments are the Laws that God gave us and because we are to keep those in our heart for ever, and our mind is to become like the mind of Christ, then we will keep those laws forever.
 
Here is a guy that I like on youtube describing what laws were nailed to the cross(meaning which laws were fulfilled and we no longer had to live under them) He does a great job of explaining and cross referencing the OT and NT laws. Just click the link Part 1 Part 2

Now, as far as my own opinion on it. Jesus said himself that he didn't come to make the Laws go away. What he did was to fulfill the laws. A lot of the old laws included sacraficial practices and ceromonies that were used for the purpose of purification before God. Now that we have the blood of Jesus to wash us clean, we no longer need ceremonies and stuff to purify us. Now the 10 Commandments are the Laws that God gave us and because we are to keep those in our heart for ever, and our mind is to become like the mind of Christ, then we will keep those laws forever.


Wow...excellent videos. The ark of the covenant aspect is something that really am not versed well enough in. Thank you for sharing.

On another note, he has so much energy! :lachen:
 
Lev. 23 sets out holy convocation the 7th Day Sabbath (first) as well as for ceremonial sabbaths (second). Church services/convocation are not necessarily different in my belief - it's assembly. I have met for church in someone's home, or in the park etc., on Sabbath with fellow believers. It is the same thing as Jesus going to the synagogue. Being physically in a synagogue is not the only way to fulfill holy convocation, so maybe that why in one of the verses - not all- that it points out that it was His custom.

Yea, we will have to disagree. In my belief, keeping the Sabbath holy means that 7th Day Sabbath which it specifically set out in the Ten Commandments. Some things are more specific than others in the Bible. It's certainly not unreasonable to do, while still following Him everyday. But that's me though...

Just curious? Do you choose any day of the week to keep holy in general or do have you chosen specific day? For example, where I live, the Lutherans keep sundays instead of the Sabbath. But similarly, they do no work etc. I shop at their grocery, and they close on Sunday.

Nope no specific set apart day, I do it everyday. I don't do my own will but the will of God so I rest from my own works. I believe everyday is to be kept holy unto God.
Where I live the Jehovah witnesses used to worship strictly on Saturday stating the same reasons you have. Now I notice that more and more halls have switched from Saturday worship to Sunday worship but I have no idea what their reasoning is.
I don't believe that a worship service has to be held in a traditional church building but when I gather with my sisters and we glorify God I don't consider it a church service, it's a fellowship. In the Epistles it shows that some saints did have churches in their home though.
I do believe that we are to remember the sabbath and keep it holy but that we have the commandment and the power through Jesus Christ to keep everyday holy. Jesus did many things on Saturday's the sabbath, performed many miracles but they were not to keep the sabbath holy. He was trying to show them that He was the Lord of the Sabbath and their works/observances of that day were not what was going to save them but that He was because He is the fulfillment of the law. Because He fulfilled the law I can take my rest (sabbath) in His Word. I remember what God has done for me daily not just Saturday. He has put His laws in my heart and causes me to keep ALL of His commandments.
 
Nope no specific set apart day, I do it everyday. I don't do my own will but the will of God so I rest from my own works. I believe everyday is to be kept holy unto God.
Where I live the Jehovah witnesses used to worship strictly on Saturday stating the same reasons you have. Now I notice that more and more halls have switched from Saturday worship to Sunday worship but I have no idea what their reasoning is.
I don't believe that a worship service has to be held in a traditional church building but when I gather with my sisters and we glorify God I don't consider it a church service, it's a fellowship. In the Epistles it shows that some saints did have churches in their home though.
I do believe that we are to remember the sabbath and keep it holy but that we have the commandment and the power through Jesus Christ to keep everyday holy. Jesus did many things on Saturday's the sabbath, performed many miracles but they were not to keep the sabbath holy. He was trying to show them that He was the Lord of the Sabbath and their works/observances of that day were not what was going to save them but that He was because He is the fulfillment of the law. Because He fulfilled the law I can take my rest (sabbath) in His Word. I remember what God has done for me daily not just Saturday. He has put His laws in my heart and causes me to keep ALL of His commandments.

Interesting view. I agree that Jesus is our Savior. Keeping God's Sabbath along with all other Commandments - in my understanding - is evidence that we remember His sacrifice and following Him out of love. Do you have any verses that show that every day has been set aside to be treated holy like the 7th Day Sabbath?

Jehovah Witnesses around me keep Sunday. I didn't know any of them kept Sabbath. There aren't listed among the Sabbath keeping faiths. I'll keep them in mind though...thanks!
 
Interesting view. I agree that Jesus is our Savior. Keeping God's Sabbath along with all other Commandments - in my understanding - is evidence that we remember His sacrifice and following Him out of love. Do you have any verses that show that every day has been set aside to be treated holy like the 7th Day Sabbath?

Jehovah Witnesses around me keep Sunday. I didn't know any of them kept Sabbath. There aren't listed among the Sabbath keeping faiths. I'll keep them in mind though...thanks!
Girl it's too late and my brain is shutting down but I'll post them tomorrow. Tooo much reading and thinking:grin:
Do any JW's post here? Maybe they can explain the some Sat. some Sun. thing?
 
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