Heat Training Support Thread

When you used the apex did you use the temp you usually use to straigthen.i think this might be the frying effect ppl talk about when usin g grease to straighten.i personally got hair that loosened in my bangs and nape too much when i used 400 while flat ironing my hair with a ton of apex and CON argan oil. in it. my hair sizzled as well which it doesnt do when i use low temps.this is part of what happened in my mishap in dec. That is why i said if you are going to press with oil you need to lower the temperature if you want to keep your curl. Your hair will get just as straight.

After time has past my hair curls better but its not 100% the same.my hair is actually curlier after the nunaat reconstructor becuase i did a bkt recently and the loose parts got straight and now i cant even find them when i tried.the rest of my hair wasnt affected but the parts that loosend are the parts that were loose to begin with.

Sorry for taking so long to respond.

When I use apex on my hair I flat iron at 320 to 340F. One pass does the trick. I each section with apex then I pass and no sizzle.
 
LaFemmeNaturelle, my hair came out awesome! I had a pleasant experience and I'm so happy that I found a new beautician. I really like the way she did my hair. After drying at 90% she used one of those heat up brushes and blowed the rest dry using a handheld dryer, then she flat ironed it.

How was hair loss with that brush...I am too scary to try that brush. Do you think it helped to get your hair straight (like a Doobie?)? What is your hair type? TIA.

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How was hair loss with that brush...I am too scary to try that brush. Do you think it helped to get your hair straight (like a Doobie?)? What is your hair type? TIA.

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I'm type 4b. I didn't notice much hair loss but my back was turned. I think her technique made a huge difference in how my hair came out plus it hasn't reverted as bad as it usually does. I thought about buying one of those brushes but I don't want to suffer breakage from doing it myself. I'm going to leave that part up to her.

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Here are pics pics of my hair. They aren't "hair" pics but a picture from Good Friday & Easter Sunday:

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Wow, I think I'm going to have to start trying this. My hair is driving me crazy with the knots. I've primarily been using twists to grow out my hair, but now that I'm approaching my goal hair length, it is a) getting way more difficult to detangle and I'm seeing way too many little broken ends and b) takes way to long to style straight. But primarily I want to start beefing up my hemline and so I need to get past the breakage.
 
I just washed my hair after keeping it straight for 10 days. I'm going to wear it curly for the rest of the week. I love love the texture of my hair!
 
I just want to mention that once I became a natural my hair didn't seem to take/ hold on to much moisture with out using heat (like Napp said).

Anyway that was mid 2009-2010. So I had been using heat throughout my transition (and would only stop using heat periodically/the longest stretch was about 3 months at the end of 2009). My transition started around spring 2008.

I didn't understand how much I needed to care then either. Anyhow I didn't do too much damage. I've been doing most of my trimming to even up my natural layers and rid myself of thin looking ends/lead hairs (something like Me-T mentioned- and similiar to what *i think* longhairdontcare done to her hair).

And i recently realized that (1) I shouldn't have tried to change flat iron regimen (made a homemade moisturizer which is great for my natural hair but can only use small amounts when straightening)a few weeks ago.. but i digress

(2) I had slowly been reducing the temp. flat iron to 250-275(poofy hair/but my hair is very fine). Well i'm back at 300-325 and don't yet know if i'm going to lay low on the heat(starting to workout again) for a bit or what.
 
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so i got some satin creme press to use tomorrow..let ya'll know how that goes. as far as these non-heat days-ugh. i'll be glad when my hair does whatever it's gonna do, cause i can't get it to cooperate. i just put a tam on and go. i use some kinky braid hair to drape my 5-head a little (lol). i'll take a pic of that for ya'll too.

i'm this close to pressing every week. but i tell myself that my hair needs the extra dc'ing. i've started doing so twice a week during "moisture week", mixing hot 6 oil with my humectress (both real & gvp).

so um... anybody think i should really rep the thermalaxers on yt? i know people go in on yt'ers pretty hard, but i still feel like somebody out there might benefit.
 

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Just blew my hair dry. Definitely did not have great results like last time. Last time I used Hawaiian Silky 14n1 as my leave in and my hair was so so soft and I did not have much breakage. This time I used Redken Anti-Snap (the product I always use before I flat iron) and my hair broke alot and was super dry by the time I got finished blow drying. I had to put some coconut oil in my hair to soften it up a bit. I'm going to flat iron tomorrow with grease again but I am never using that Redken before blowdrying again. Matter fact, I just put it in my little spritz and I will not re-purchase. The HS14n1 may be a staple leave-in for blowdrying and flat ironing. We'll see.
 
Just blew my hair dry. Definitely did not have great results like last time. Last time I used Hawaiian Silky 14n1 as my leave in and my hair was so so soft and I did not have much breakage. This time I used Redken Anti-Snap (the product I always use before I flat iron) and my hair broke alot and was super dry by the time I got finished blow drying. I had to put some coconut oil in my hair to soften it up a bit. I'm going to flat iron tomorrow with grease again but I am never using that Redken before blowdrying again. Matter fact, I just put it in my little spritz and I will not re-purchase. The HS14n1 may be a staple leave-in for blowdrying and flat ironing. We'll see.

I haven't seen folks talking about Mizani thermasmooth system. Have you tried that?

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naw girl too rich for my blood lol

Lol, for me too. I just buy steps 3/4 from amazon or scented monkey. I got the 2, 3.5oz bottles for $28. It really does help get it bone straight with less heat (usually the ceramic is at almost 400F, with 3/4 I can get away with 280-320F). And you use a little at a time. And my hair is sooooo soft. It has synthetic ceramides in step 3, and oodles of cones in step 4.

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i have TRUE 4a/b hair and my hair loses a lot of thickness w/ relaxers. i am always concerned about having thicker hair as my hair is very fine/thin - is heat training a better option for that vs relaxers?

also are there any TRUE 4a/b heat training photos? some of my hair (especially in the front) has no curl pattern and if i won't look good i'd like to know.
 
Lol, for me too. I just buy steps 3/4 from amazon or scented monkey. I got the 2, 3.5oz bottles for $28. It really does help get it bone straight with less heat (usually the ceramic is at almost 400F, with 3/4 I can get away with 280-320F). And you use a little at a time. And my hair is sooooo soft. It has synthetic ceramides in step 3, and oodles of cones in step 4.

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Glad it's working for you! Still too much for me lol I don't have a job so I'll stick with my grease. It does me right!

So I just flat ironed my hair. Took a little less than two hours. I decided that I won't blow-dry before flat ironing anymore. I get better and straighter results when I airdry( my mom told ke that would happen and I should have listened since she is the one who used to press my hair). It also did not make my hair any quicker to straighten so basically the blow dryer is a waste of extra heat. I may rollerset next time. Idk but I don't plan to straighten again until the fall/winter since it's getting hot outside and I don't have time to be playing with the weather.
 
i have TRUE 4a/b hair and my hair loses a lot of thickness w/ relaxers. i am always concerned about having thicker hair as my hair is very fine/thin - is heat training a better option for that vs relaxers?

also are there any TRUE 4a/b heat training photos? some of my hair (especially in the front) has no curl pattern and if i won't look good i'd like to know.

I am not sure what you mean by "true" but I am a 4a/b.

Wet Hair heat trained hair
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kmIjoYMgTI&t=2m36s

Natural hair
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLRYf285p2Y&t=1m6s
 
i just realized i cant do the no heat thing.its been only 2 weeks since i last used heat and my hair feels so rough and dry. breakage and tangling everywhere. the heat really makes a difference for me. i straighted my hair with a little bit of razac finishing cream and i got very nice results! lets see how long it lasts
 
i just realized i cant do the no heat thing.its been only 2 weeks since i last used heat and my hair feels so rough and dry. breakage and tangling everywhere. the heat really makes a difference for me. i straighted my hair with a little bit of razac finishing cream and i got very nice results! lets see how long it lasts

I'm a heat-lover too, but I'm going to try no heat just for the summer to give my hair a little break. But then it's back to the heat!
 
I last flat-ironed 2 weeks ago... I wore it straight one week and curly the next week. I plan to flat iron tomorrow for the upcoming week.
 
omg, thank ya'll so much for puttin me on to satin creme press! my hair feels like it did when i was relaxed, and just put on some moisturizer! i had no sizzling when i flat ironed either which is weird. no matter what heat protectant serum or spray i use, the flat iron sizzles.

because some of ya'll said that a "grease" type product requires less heat, i set my iron back to 320. won't do that again. my hair didn't come out as crazy thin as last time, but it's not too sleek either. 3rd-day poof is the best way i can explain it. you know when your hair adjusts to bein straightened? :look:

anyway, i'm stickin to creme press (which that jar will last forever!) and my higher temp. for some reason though, my hair won't do what i tell it. i don't think my hair's rebellion has to do with this heat training. i think it's this awkward length with awkward layers. PIC TIME!:grin:
 

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Today is hair day & I don't feel like it. I'm going to keep it as short & sweet as possible (under 5 hours:-/). I'd like to get my hair done every 2 weeks but that's going to start adding up. Doing it myself has become so time consuming that I dread wash days:(.
 
My hair blowdried a few minutes ago
 

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My flat ironed results tonight
 

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