A few things: being a golddigger doesn't mean you're necessarily dependent on someone else. I've got a friend who dates nothing but men with money - buying her Gucci watches and shoes, taking her out for dates where afterwards they go stay in the Le Meridien and Beverly Hills Hilton hotel (even though they both live in LA). AND she works - full time, good job, her own place, her own money.
And men CLAIM they don't like golddiggers - cuz they can't be upfront and say they're essentially paying for someone's company. But think about it - if men hated golddiggers so much, then how does Superhead manage to still date men in the industry?? They know what she's about, hell - we ALL do. Men like good company (good could mean good looking, good conversation, smart, educated, or good sex). Women like feel secure (financially, emotionally, spiritually). If both folks go into the situation HONESTLY, I've got no problems with it.
I look at golddiggers like this - if you're up front about what you want and he's upfront about what he wants then what's the problem???
The only thing I don't like about SOME golddiggers is when they corrupt men, so that the next woman they meet they've got all KINDS of baggage.
And men CLAIM they don't like golddiggers - cuz they can't be upfront and say they're essentially paying for someone's company. But think about it - if men hated golddiggers so much, then how does Superhead manage to still date men in the industry?? They know what she's about, hell - we ALL do. Men like good company (good could mean good looking, good conversation, smart, educated, or good sex). Women like feel secure (financially, emotionally, spiritually). If both folks go into the situation HONESTLY, I've got no problems with it.
I look at golddiggers like this - if you're up front about what you want and he's upfront about what he wants then what's the problem???
The only thing I don't like about SOME golddiggers is when they corrupt men, so that the next woman they meet they've got all KINDS of baggage.
). The dowry will be written in to the Nikkah(marriage contract). Muzzies I know get married and divorced like its going out of style. In some sects like the Shias they have temporary marriages...need I say more. I think people would be surprised at the rate of divorce. It is very easy to get divorced, simple as the man saying I divorce you three times. In lots of cases women will request something religious, but a sum of money, a house, or a car is not unheard of especially in the west and other places where people are able to afford it. In poorer places livestock, grains, and the sort are not unheard of. Yes, some people will add all their cultural stipulations to the "law", but there are plenty that will try to be as pure about it as possible. Not sure what other religions/cultures who the dowry practice expect though.
I definitely agree that what you described applies in some cases.
erplexed Truth be told, if a man is gonna' give up cash, at least have something to offer. Some people expect to trade day old, used goodies. I'm amused by anyone, but especially 5.5 and 2.5s investing more time in finding a rich guy than their education and people with nothing, who feel entitled to those with something. Competition is tough, 
By 19 a lot of Western women have had enough sexual partners to negate any significant dowry in many cultures.
. ITA. A lot of men that call women “golddiggers” seem to go out of their way looking for them. I can honestly say that I’m not a gold-digger, but I am often treated like one by men (let me explain). See, men like to be able to provide for women. I am now in a position to provide for myself, but when I was in school, I was fortunate enough to have parents that could afford to provide for me (mom and dad), so I didn’t ever have to go on a date with a guy I couldn’t stand to get a meal (some of my friends had to do this). However, most of the guys I have dated hate the idea of allowing me to pay for things, and want to pay for things. So, if I let them, am I a gold-digger? Some might say yes, I say no! And truthfully, if men were a little more honest, many like “gold-diggers” because they can get away with more. If I don’t depend on your money, then you become “accountable” to me (i.e. sleeping around and disrespectful behavior becomes intolerable). With a gold-digger, if he’s footing the bill (rent, bills, dinners, gifts, etc.) it’s a little harder to complain. And I think many men would prefer things this way (the latter)!
yep: yep I said it). I personally believe that we need to raise our daughters to have a sense of value, one that is seriously lacking, like water in the Sahara! There’s nothing wrong with getting an education and making that money for yourself. I’ve done this. However, we as women should be okay with depending on a man—not necessarily to the point of complete absurdity where we know absolutely nothing about the finances. However, look at our women! We stereotypically get screwed. Kim Porter. The ATL woman with Diddy’s baby. Scary Spice. The list could go on and on. We are always trying to do for ourselves, and I’m all for independence. But please hold a man accountable for being ambitious. He doesn’t have to be Donald Trump or Bill Gates. But he should value you enough to want better for both of you!
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