Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natural!!!

[Poohbear]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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rowandaP said:
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To help u guys out, here is an example of what "I" thought was NICE natural hair of a girl who did the big chop; she is not on LHCF:

http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/dreamypisces/


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That is pretty.. Very Nice.

Still, the styles include, fake braids and a fake puff *sigh*

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Didnt u post a thread about getting toykolan braids??? Why do u sigh???

 

[Irresistible]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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rowandaP said:
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patience said:
Not to be cruel, but from reading your posts in this thread Poohbear, I seriously don't think that you are ready to go natural. I just don't. Going natural requires a mental transition as well as a physical transition. From reading various posts that you've made and threads that you've started on this board, you aren't ready yet. JMO...

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If it's sot "natuarl" why does it take so much Mental Enegery/preparation? I don't understand.

[/ QUOTE ] For the same reason Poohbear was stating ....not liking natural hair(although she was talkingg about a certain type).....after years of thinking relaxed straight hair is the only acceptable hair, its also learning to LOVE your own hair.....if you hate what grows out of your head or dont learn how to deal with it...you wont stay natural

 

[Poohbear]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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ayeshia said:
I agree Bobbie. And truthfully I did feel offended just a bit when she was refering to the BC albums. Because I did a BC and I hope that she wasnt referring to my album

Not saying that she was but since I big chopped I would immediately assume that maybe I was one of the albums that she was talking about. But anyway I dont take things to seriously anyway and I try not to get offensive. Its her opinion like she said and I cant expect everyone to like my hair

Yes it would be best for her to stick to longhaired natural albums since she seems to get inspired by those

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I apologize Ayeshia for offending u in anyway. Thank you for expressing your feelings and for understanding.

 

[patience]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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rowandaP said:
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patience said:
Not to be cruel, but from reading your posts in this thread Poohbear, I seriously don't think that you are ready to go natural. I just don't. Going natural requires a mental transition as well as a physical transition. From reading various posts that you've made and threads that you've started on this board, you aren't ready yet. JMO...

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If it's sot "natuarl" why does it take so much Mental Enegery/preparation? I don't understand.

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I say that going natural requires a mental transition as well because of the things that are likely to happen once one becomes natural. I know plenty of folks, myself included, who pretty much caught everything but a degree of support when we decided to go natural. For some of us, the only support system that we had was a website. I've been told everything from "you were soo much prettier before you cut off all of your hair" to "that's such a shame that you went and did THAT to yourself". I'm saying all that to say that going natural requires a "tough" skin in a sense. I know that people make comments everyday and I for one, am quick to snap one off on folks just like they did on me, however some folks aren't and they take alot of comments personally. Basically, I think you have be mentally prepared as well. Deciding to go natural and then constantly being told, subtlely (sp) and not so subtlely(sp) that you are now "not good enough" isn't the easiest thing to handle and does require a degree of mental preparedness, IMO.

 

[Poohbear]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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rowandaP said:
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patience said:
Not to be cruel, but from reading your posts in this thread Poohbear, I seriously don't think that you are ready to go natural. I just don't. Going natural requires a mental transition as well as a physical transition. From reading various posts that you've made and threads that you've started on this board, you aren't ready yet. JMO...

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If it's not "natural" why does it take so much Mental Enegery/preparation? I don't understand.

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I agree.

I don't think it's that serious with the mental and physical preparation. I'm not obsessed with my hair or anything but I do like making and having it look nice. I was just venting about being discouraged but I was not depressed, down in the pits, or about to kill myself!

 

[Irresistible]

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rowandaP said:
Gabrielle, she did not name any names, why did you feel assaulted ???

Plus how many people on this board and others BC then get fake hair??

And that makes sense, How?

[/ QUOTE ] To keep this in the context of the thread Poohbear was not talking about not liking those that wear fake hair after the BC...and those responding or felt offended might not wear fake hair either and if they do, they still have that same hair underneath and that might be the hair she said she did not like....this doesnt change the implications

 

[rowandaP]

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ms_kenesha said:OT: But do you have something against fake hair?


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I suppose, I guess it's mainly not understanding how people can take such a serious stance about going back to "Natural" roots, Perming being perceived at being "addicted to creamy crack" then they get dead peoples hair or hair made from Asian people and slap it on thier head.

I guess I just don't understand the whole thang.

It's like we want our Blackness but with the help of Asians.

 

[skegeesmb]

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deeplyrooted said:
Mmmm . . . sorry if my pics may have swayed you in the wrong direction, PoohBear, but either way, I hope you follow the path that you feel will work for you. Don't feel pressured to big chop if you don't want to. That was my route, and nearly 2 years later, I'm happy with it.

As long as you're happy, your LHCF sisters will be happy for/with you.

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Your hair looks cute deeplyrooted. I especially like the signature picture. You look very content.

 

[rowandaP]

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Poohbear said:
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rowandaP said:
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To help u guys out, here is an example of what "I" thought was NICE natural hair of a girl who did the big chop; she is not on LHCF:

http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/dreamypisces/


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That is pretty.. Very Nice.

Still, the styles include, fake braids and a fake puff *sigh*

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Didnt u post a thread about getting toykolan braids??? Why do u sigh???

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You must have me confused... Time for you to take a Coffee Break girlie... LOL

 

[Poohbear]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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Irresistible said:
For the same reason Poohbear was stating ....not liking natural hair(although she was talkingg about a certain type).....after years of thinking relaxed straight hair is the only acceptable hair, its also learning to LOVE your own hair.....if you hate what grows out of your head or dont learn how to deal with it...you wont stay natural

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I also want to say I feel like I will like whatever comes out of my head...no matter how nappy it may be since texture CHANGES as u get older!

But you're right Irresistible, if I am unable to deal with it even if I do like it or not, I probably wont stay natural.
(What the hell did I just say?)

 

[Irresistible]

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ayeshia said:
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rowandaP said:
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To help u guys out, here is an example of what "I" thought was NICE natural hair of a girl who did the big chop; she is not on LHCF:

http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/dreamypisces/


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That is pretty.. Very Nice.

Still, the styles include, fake braids and a fake puff *sigh*

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Okay yall thats my girl and I talk to her...and actually that fake puff is the same length as her regular puff....she used it as a protective style/for humidity so she wouldnt have to keep manipulating her hair from her regular puff so um yeah lay off

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i dont get the point anyway...these ARE protective styles!!! now if that person NEVER wears their natural hair...then there might be a question of them not liking their natural hair....but then thats not the subject of the thread. it was about someone else saying they didnt like OTHERS natural hair. and imo if someone doesnt like thier natural hair..the relaxer is always availiable....why would they go get fake hair favoring their own natural texture if they didnt like it??? i mean im supposing thats what is being implied...correct me if im wrong

 

[Irresistible]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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Poohbear said:
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rowandaP said:
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To help u guys out, here is an example of what "I" thought was NICE natural hair of a girl who did the big chop; she is not on LHCF:

http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/dreamypisces/


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That is pretty.. Very Nice.

Still, the styles include, fake braids and a fake puff *sigh*

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Didnt u post a thread about getting toykolan braids??? Why do u sigh???

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[Karonica]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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rowandaP said:
I suppose, I guess it's mainly not understanding how people can take such a serious stance about going back to "Natural" roots, Perming being perceived at being "addicted to creamy crack" then they get dead peoples hair or hair made from Asian people and slap it on thier head.

I guess I just don't understand the whole thang.

It's like we want our Blackness but with the help of Asians.

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I see where you're coming from, but everyone likes a change now and then, and sometimes, it's beneficial. Less manipulation with our own hair. But I would hope a person who wears weaves does not put down people who choose to relax their hair.

 

[Ayeshia]

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rowandaP said:
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ms_kenesha said:OT: But do you have something against fake hair?


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I suppose, I guess it's mainly not understanding how people can take such a serious stance about going back to "Natural" roots, Perming being perceived at being "addicted to creamy crack" then they get dead peoples hair or hair made from Asian people and slap it on thier head.

I guess I just don't understand the whole thang.

It's like we want our Blackness but with the help of Asians.

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sorry but this didnt make any sense to me...Getting fake hair is not altering your natural hair so Its hard for me to understand your analogy

and asians/blacks/indians sell their hair as well its not just some body from the morgue.

 

[Poohbear]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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rowandaP said:
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Poohbear said:
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rowandaP said:
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To help u guys out, here is an example of what "I" thought was NICE natural hair of a girl who did the big chop; she is not on LHCF:

http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/dreamypisces/


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That is pretty.. Very Nice.

Still, the styles include, fake braids and a fake puff *sigh*

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Didnt u post a thread about getting toykolan braids??? Why do u sigh???

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You must have me confused... Time for you to take a Coffee Break girlie... LOL

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Oops I just noticed rowandaP...

These quote thingys can be confusing... I thought ms_kenesha said what u had said! Sorry ms_kenesha!

 

[Irresistible]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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patience said:
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rowandaP said:
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patience said:
Not to be cruel, but from reading your posts in this thread Poohbear, I seriously don't think that you are ready to go natural. I just don't. Going natural requires a mental transition as well as a physical transition. From reading various posts that you've made and threads that you've started on this board, you aren't ready yet. JMO...

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If it's sot "natuarl" why does it take so much Mental Enegery/preparation? I don't understand.

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I say that going natural requires a mental transition as well because of the things that are likely to happen once one becomes natural. I know plenty of folks, myself included, who pretty much caught everything but a degree of support when we decided to go natural. For some of us, the only support system that we had was a website. I've been told everything from "you were soo much prettier before you cut off all of your hair" to "that's such a shame that you went and did THAT to yourself". I'm saying all that to say that going natural requires a "tough" skin in a sense. I know that people make comments everyday and I for one, am quick to snap one off on folks just like they did on me, however some folks aren't and they take alot of comments personally. Basically, I think you have be mentally prepared as well. Deciding to go natural and then constantly being told, subtlely (sp) and not so subtlely(sp) that you are now "not good enough" isn't the easiest thing to handle and does require a degree of mental preparedness, IMO.

[/ QUOTE ] yup, exactly

 

[pebbles]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

Poohbear, whenever you're ready for me to stick a fork in this thread, let me know. I'm having a hard time understanding how and when this thread took such a sharp left turn.

And for the record, you don't owe anyone any explanations about your likes and dislikes. You are not obligated to feel a certain way just because others feel you should, so like what you like, and dislike what you don't like to your hearts content.

 

[Irresistible]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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Poohbear said:
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rowandaP said:
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patience said:
Not to be cruel, but from reading your posts in this thread Poohbear, I seriously don't think that you are ready to go natural. I just don't. Going natural requires a mental transition as well as a physical transition. From reading various posts that you've made and threads that you've started on this board, you aren't ready yet. JMO...

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If it's not "natural" why does it take so much Mental Enegery/preparation? I don't understand.

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I agree.

I don't think it's that serious with the mental and physical preparation. I'm not obsessed with my hair or anything but I do like making and having it look nice. I was just venting about being discouraged but I was not depressed, down in the pits, or about to kill myself!

[/ QUOTE ]its people that are natural and have been natural telling you that it just might take some mental preperation.....its because they know and have been there and through it

 

[nita4]

Poohbear, I am also am transitioning. I have tried before, but I didn't have the patience or knowledge to continue. This time though, I'm ready. I choose to embrace my natural hair for what it is and not for what I want it to be. I have 4a, thin/fine densley packed hair from what I can remember. I choose to work with that regardless. I have been researching albums, styles, shampoo techniques, products and anything else that can help me in my transition. The short styles actually inspire me the most because most of them have grown their hair out to great lengths and its all so pretty. Be inspired and get your mind ready first, the hair will follow.

 

[ms_kenesha]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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Poohbear said:
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rowandaP said:
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Poohbear said:
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rowandaP said:
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To help u guys out, here is an example of what "I" thought was NICE natural hair of a girl who did the big chop; she is not on LHCF:

http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/dreamypisces/


[/ QUOTE ]

That is pretty.. Very Nice.

Still, the styles include, fake braids and a fake puff *sigh*

[/ QUOTE ]

Didnt u post a thread about getting toykolan braids??? Why do u sigh???

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You must have me confused... Time for you to take a Coffee Break girlie... LOL

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Oops I just noticed rowandaP...

These quote thingys can be confusing... I thought ms_kenesha said what u had said! Sorry ms_kenesha!

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No Prob.

 

[Poohbear]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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rowandaP said:
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ms_kenesha said:OT: But do you have something against fake hair?


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I suppose, I guess it's mainly not understanding how people can take such a serious stance about going back to "Natural" roots, Perming being perceived at being "addicted to creamy crack" then they get dead peoples hair or hair made from Asian people and slap it on thier head.

I guess I just don't understand the whole thang.

It's like we want our Blackness but with the help of Asians.

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That first paragraph was kinda harsh.

But you somewhat have a point with that last sentence...
But I think people use fake hair to achieve a certain look, not to help achieve their blackness. In all reality, there's no such thing as blackness...we're all a mixture of different races, cultures, and whatever else u wanna call it!

 

[rowandaP]

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But I would hope a person who wears weaves does not put down people who choose to relax their hair.

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Karonica, that's kinda my thing. Some naturals, let me repeat, SOME naturals, usually the militant ones dogg people who relax now that they've "seen the light" so to speak and they it's ok to be fake as long as your natural fake.

But I do understand about protective styles and wanting a different look. That's fine..

 

[Irresistible]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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rowandaP said:
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ms_kenesha said:OT: But do you have something against fake hair?


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I suppose, I guess it's mainly not understanding how people can take such a serious stance about going back to "Natural" roots, Perming being perceived at being "addicted to creamy crack" then they get dead peoples hair or hair made from Asian people and slap it on thier head.

I guess I just don't understand the whole thang.

It's like we want our Blackness but with the help of Asians.

[/ QUOTE ] relaxer vs a fake puff or braid...is like apples and oranges

 

[patience]

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nita4 said:
Be inspired and get your mind ready first, the hair will follow.

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EXACTLY!!!!

 

[ms_kenesha]

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Irresistible said:
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ayeshia said:
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rowandaP said:
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To help u guys out, here is an example of what "I" thought was NICE natural hair of a girl who did the big chop; she is not on LHCF:

http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/dreamypisces/


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That is pretty.. Very Nice.

Still, the styles include, fake braids and a fake puff *sigh*

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Okay yall thats my girl and I talk to her...and actually that fake puff is the same length as her regular puff....she used it as a protective style/for humidity so she wouldnt have to keep manipulating her hair from her regular puff so um yeah lay off

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i dont get the point anyway...these ARE protective styles!!! now if that person NEVER wears their natural hair...then there might be a question of them not liking their natural hair....but then thats not the subject of the thread. it was about someone else saying they didnt like OTHERS natural hair. and imo if someone doesnt like thier natural hair..the relaxer is always availiable....why would they go get fake hair favoring their own natural texture if they didnt like it??? i mean im supposing thats what is being implied...correct me if im wrong

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Co-signing with Irresistable

 

[Poohbear]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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Irresistible said:
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ayeshia said:
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rowandaP said:
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Poohbear said:To help u guys out, here is an example of what "I" thought was NICE natural hair of a girl who did the big chop; she is not on LHCF:

http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/dreamypisces/


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That is pretty.. Very Nice.

Still, the styles include, fake braids and a fake puff *sigh*

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Okay yall thats my girl and I talk to her...and actually that fake puff is the same length as her regular puff....she used it as a protective style/for humidity so she wouldnt have to keep manipulating her hair from her regular puff so um yeah lay off

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i dont get the point anyway...these ARE protective styles!!! now if that person NEVER wears their natural hair...then there might be a question of them not liking their natural hair....but then thats not the subject of the thread. it was about someone else saying they didnt like OTHERS natural hair. and imo if someone doesnt like thier natural hair..the relaxer is always availiable....why would they go get fake hair favoring their own natural texture if they didnt like it??? i mean im supposing thats what is being implied...correct me if im wrong

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I agree Irresistible... her fake hair could be use as a protective style. Also Im glad u said something Ayeshia. But when I first saw your friend's album, I thought it was real anyway. It still looks nice as a fake puff.

 

[Irresistible]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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Poohbear said:
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Irresistible said:
For the same reason Poohbear was stating ....not liking natural hair(although she was talkingg about a certain type).....after years of thinking relaxed straight hair is the only acceptable hair, its also learning to LOVE your own hair.....if you hate what grows out of your head or dont learn how to deal with it...you wont stay natural

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I also want to say I feel like I will like whatever comes out of my head...no matter how nappy it may be since texture CHANGES as u get older!

But you're right Irresistible, if I am unable to deal with it even if I do like it or not, I probably wont stay natural.
(What the hell did I just say?)

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stop that! every body really is making valid points to you girl

 

[rowandaP]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

Thats OK

Damn, I need a coffee break too.

They got me on Switchboard and these calls are workin my neves.

I uh accidently

cut 3 ppl off.

This [** potty mouth **] was screaming to the top of her lungs, sayin" I want my disability check" Hell, I want lunch..

 

[patience]

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rowandaP said:
I uh accidently

cut 3 ppl off.

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oOOPS!

 

[Ayeshia]

Re: Getting Discouraged ALREADY about going Natura

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rowandaP said:
Thats OK

Damn, I need a coffee break too.

They got me on Switchboard and these calls are workin my neves.

I uh accidently

cut 3 ppl off.

This [** potty mouth **] was screaming to the top of her lungs, sayin" I want my disability check" Hell, I want lunch..

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dont get fired now