Dating 6 Men At 68: The Woman Behind The Musical ‘curvy Widow’

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At 68, Bobby Goldman has found herself in the unexpected position of recommending adult toys to strangers.
These days, Ms. Goldman is dating six men, five married, one separated. “It’s a nice number,” she said in a cab downtown after the talkback. “They can’t see you very often. It works out to about one date a week.”

She has written the book for the new musical, “Curvy Widow,” based on her experiences in the post-bereavement dating pool, at the Westside Theater. In it, the character of Bobby grapples with being single in her 60s (incognito trips to buy condoms) in today’s landscape (casually-sent graphic photos).

The play’s frank talk about sex during one’s later years invites audience members to share their own laughs and frustrations, as Ms. Goldman explained during a trip to Babeland, a sex-toy shop in Manhattan, last month.

“I thought I was writing a funny little sex show. I had no idea people were going to come to me with tears in their eyes,” she said. To one woman who confessed her fear of sex, Ms. Goldman recounted telling her, “You need a good gynecologist, and you need a vibrator.”

Eyeing one apparatus at the store that looked like a spineless cactus, she said, “It’s going to fall out or do something peculiar.”

Ms. Goldman was married to the playwright and screenwriter James Goldman who won an Oscar for “The Lion in Winter.” His death in 1998flattened Ms. Goldman. Her therapist’s advice? Have sex, as his character recommends in the show.

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After a frustrating year on Match.com — “The type of man who’s on it and of a certain age shouldn’t be on anything,” Ms. Goldman said — she stumbled upon Ashley Madison, the site specializing in extramarital encounters. Her profile, with the handle “Curvy Widow,” netted over a hundred responses on the first night.

A friend at Random House urged her to chronicle her adventures. “They said, ‘What are you doing since Jim is dead?’ and I said, ‘I’m dating a lot of wealthy, successful, married men from a sex site.’ They thought it was funny, and next thing I know I’m writing it,” she said.

During the talkback following that afternoon’s matinee, the audience was largely older and female. “I liked the message that it’s O.K. to be independent,” one woman said.

“I had a construction company; my clients were mostly men,” Ms. Goldman replied. “Since ‘Curvy,’ I’ve developed girlfriends. For the first time, I have girl lunches and girl brunches. It’s been terrific. I love men deeply, but they’re simple folk.”

The female audience members murmured in agreement.

“Women are strategic,” Ms. Goldman went on.“We will stay up, watch them breathe and look for kitchen knives.”

They laughed — hard.

Drew Brody, who wrote the music and lyrics for “Curvy Widow,” recalled in an interview that he had been looking for new collaborators when he heard about Ms. Goldman. “Aaron Lustbader, who’s now the general manager of the show, said to me, ‘I have someone interesting for you to meet,’ which was the understatement of the century,” Mr. Brody said.

Married men, she says, are more compatible with her lifestyle. She doesn’t bother herself with moral implications.

“I care for them, but I’m very pragmatic,” she said later at Nomo Kitchen, as she wolfed down the cacio e pepe. “You’re married; I’m not looking to do anything other than have an enjoyable evening with you. I don’t text you. I don’t call you. That would be wrong.”

These relationships are not just about sex, she clarified. “I was injured nine months ago, and I couldn’t walk. Every single one of them showed up to my house and made sure there was food in the refrigerator. Men want to take care.”

While she does occasionally date single men, widowers are too eager for old patterns.“They don’t want to be alone, and they don’t know how to do laundry. I tell them I don’t know how to do laundry either.”

She sipped a Campari and soda. “I don’t want to give up what I have,” she continued. “A lot of women in their 50s and 60s don’t want to remarry, and part of that is men don’t share. I think I was a great wife because I did everything in the world for him. I lost myself completely.”

Now she does not shrink from being center stage in her own life.

“Men can be very fragile, and they like to be important,” she had said earlier that afternoon. Once, in Peter Luger’s, a restaurant she frequents, the wait staff sent over a bottle of Champagne. “My date looked at me and said, ‘You certainly don’t need me,’ and walked out. If you’re going out with me, you have to enjoy me.”

The waiter at Nomo Kitchen brought a flatbread, the cacio e pepe being too dainty a portion. “I’m at a point where it’s confidence,” she said of having sex now with several partners. “I expect to have a good time, and I usually do.”

And to any and all who might listen, she added, “And stop telling me I can’t have it after 50.”
 
For some reason I'm not clutching my pearls regarding her relationships with married men. Maybe its her age, but it doesn't bother me.
I was going to say the same. I don't know what it is either. Could it be because she is very specific about not wanting to make any changes to her life the way it is? She's been married before and toward the end the articles reads as though that is something she's not really expecting to do again? She's a widow looking for fun every now and then. Still sounds wrong but...I don't know. I can't explain it.
 
I remember watching something on TV several years ago of a man who eventually committed suicide. He caught HIV at the age of 70+. He lived in one of those active retirement enclaves in Florida. The thought of telling his kids and grandkids was too much for him. He wasn't the only one but it seemed that the women learned to deal while the men jumped or shot themselves.
 
Stories like these are reminders why women of a certain age aren't automatically seen as sources of wisdom or given automatic respect until there is reason. It's case by case based on me seeing something about their life worth repeating, respecting or gleaning. People are who they are. Age typically doesn't change character, they just usually stop putting on airs at a certain point and those who knew them best usually knew the truth all along.
 
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This is certainly interesting. That bit about not remarrying again is wisdom. As far as the cheating thing, two parties are actively seeking the same thing. Will she regret it? Maybe. But people live doing 'immoral' things all the time with no regrets so hey.
 
Stories like these are reminders why women of a certain age aren't automatically seen as sources of wisdom or given automatic respect until there is reason. It's case by case based on me seeing something about their life worth repeating, respecting or gleaning. People are who they are. Age typically doesn't change character, they just usually stop putting on airs at a certain point and those who knew them best usually knew the truth all along.

THIS, all day long. I can't believe that they're making a musical from her book.
 
THIS, all day long. I can't believe that they're making a musical from her book.

Well our culture is very backwards today. What was generally considered wrong is now okay and celebrated even, and what was once considered moral is now "uptight" or "rigid" or worse "bigotry." The problem is people think this life is all there is and there's nothing afterwards so they cry YOLO and all that nonsense. Such a huge lie and their souls are in grave danger. Anyway I generally do the opposite of what our culture pushes.
 
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