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Ogoma said:
^^^ if people actively stop supporting them, there would be no $ to be king to. But, they are banking on lots of talk and inaction. Time will tell if they are right.
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I wish we could have more solidarity in the black community... I really hope our message gets heard no matter what the end result in all of this.
 
Wow, so they just gonna appropriate everything until there's nothing left, huh? Even the hair on our heads.
 
I'm glad that out of the traitors (yup, that is what I'm calling them) I was only subbed (notice past tense) to one.

I will not bother with giving them any more clicks by trying to get the scoop. I've got all the info I need. My mind is made up and they are BLACK BALLED to me!!
 
Mz.MoMo5235 said:
I'm glad that out of the traitors (yup, that is what I'm calling them) I was only subbed (notice past tense) to one.

I will not bother with giving them any more clicks by trying to get the scoop. I've got all the info I need. My mind is made up and they are BLACK BALLED to me!!
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Me too. I unsubbed from CharyJay a while back and just unsubbed to Quest for the Perfect Curl.
 
rawsilk

That....was....AMAZING!!! you said everything I could not find the words to say. I am so empowered right now. My future was bright but now it is GLEAMING!!
 
I was never subscribed to anyone. I have perused CN and KT and maybe a few others but never felt home (sorry but I thought they were dry). Their advice also did not work for me. Once I found LHCF I was done. I guess it was mostly because I had no interest in styles but mainly growth. I will consider supporting those who deserve my support now.
 
I thought I'd responded to this thread, but now I can't find it. But if it's there somewhere, I take it back. Rawsilk has convinced me it DOES matter.

I will graciously cede White Women a tiny island off the coast of the Natural Hair Movement as they learn to stop with all the heat use. But the actual main continent of Natural Hair Movement should indeed belong to us. We have earned it.
 
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ezina said:
^I feel so betrayed by some of those bloggers you mentioned that are apparently backed by Naturally Curly...and breathed a huge sigh of relief reading the list of those not backed by Naturally Curly. The latter group represents my hair better, anyway.

I just hope, in light of this situation, that the Naturally Curly backed bloggers will grow some sense and jump ship. But the dollar is king so who knows.
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NaturallyATLPCH said:
Me too. I unsubbed from CharyJay a while back and just unsubbed to Quest for the Perfect Curl.
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Y'all have every right to unsubscribe from these vloggers, but just realize that a lot of Type 4 vloggers are involved with NaturallyCurly.com and I don't think they are all "sell-outs." They get involved for free products, brand promotion, and to just to help other Type 4s.

My whole thing is, y'all would be mad if NaturallyCurly.com did not include blacks/women with type 4 hair, but you're also mad at the women who get the deals and partnerships. Let those women live.

Evelyn from the Internets works for NC.com in Austin and Jouelzy is always flying down there to Texas, so she is either involved with NC.com or trying to be, even as much as she gripes about texture discrimination.

Blakizbeautyful (Jennell Stewart) keeps it all the way real about her hair journey and she is a NC.com vlogger. Mahogany Curls started out on NC and LexiwiththeCurls has worked with them as well. Before some of the black blogs were established, these ladies partnered with NC.com. I don't care for the continued characterization of NaturallyCurly's founders as some sort of racists. I don't get that from them, at all. They were pioneers in the curly hair thing and were smart enough to snatch up some black blogs early on in order to expand their reach. I don't see anything wrong with that...

Texture Media (Naturally Curly) is a MEDIA company. Of course they promote their own bloggers and vloggers.
 
Solitude said:
Y'all have every right to unsubscribe from these vloggers, but just realize that a lot of Type 4 vloggers are involved with NaturallyCurly.com and I don't think they are all "sell-outs." They get involved for free products, brand promotion, and to just to help other Type 4s.

My whole thing is, y'all would be mad if NaturallyCurly.com did not include blacks/women with type 4 hair, but you're also mad at the women who get the deals and partnerships. Let those women live.

Evelyn from the Internets works for NC.com in Austin and Jouelzy is always flying down there to Texas, so she is either involved with NC.com or trying to be, even as much as she gripes about texture discrimination.

Blakizbeautyful (Jennell Stewart) keeps it all the way real about her hair journey and she is a NC.com vlogger. Mahogany Curls started out on NC and LexiwiththeCurls has worked with them as well. Before some of the black blogs were established, these ladies partnered with NC.com. I don't care for the continued characterization of NaturallyCurly's founders as some sort of racists. I don't get that from them, at all. They were pioneers in the curly hair thing and were smart enough to snatch up some black blogs early on in order to expand their reach. I don't see anything wrong with that...

Texture Media (Naturally Curly) is a MEDIA company. Of course they promote their own bloggers and vloggers.
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I don't know enough about the politics or recent history of the natural hair care industry community to vouch for the NC founders, but I do know that site was around before the natural hair popularity exploded. I got my first sense of community and advice from that site.

I long since left them to be here. I've been here almost 15 years with no progress:lol::sad::spinning:. I kid:look:

I tried Nappturality and they were a bit too extreme for me, but to each their own. I'm sure they had their reasons.

Anyhoo, I agree that the natural hair care community belongs to US. It's not just about being curly, it's about be kinky, nappy, and the cultural consequences of that self-acceptance. It was deeper than deciding not to blow out your curls. And it's nice when you don't have to go into a long explanation about it. You just know.

And they-Becky, Sue and dem-don't 'just' know. They're clueless.
 
Don't feel obligated to subscribe to anyone that doesn't represent your interest. No one is trying to punish all bloggers, just those that have actively shown they would not represent our interests.

This is how they keep us compliant and down, by playing on our sense of fairness when they never have and never will have any intention of doing the same.

Since they want white women in the movement, they should go and find them for support. Wish them all the luck with that because when we are not there, trust and believe the white interlopers would lose interest.
 
Are Nikki Walton's missionary hair expeditions to Africa being paid for by her white sponsors? Ebony is not required to fund her travels. Furthermore, Ebony and Essence have featured natual hair in their magazines for years. Like LHCF, these publications have features that celebrate hair that is relaxed and non relaxed. I really believe that women in Africa have the lead on us regarding kinky hair care. They were never forcibly displaced by slave owners to desist in hair care practices. These women had hair care techniques passed on to them by mothers and grandmothers. I think CN is chasing fame and fortune. Her mission is not to attain cultural cohesiveness.
 
MzRhonda said:
I don't get where yt folks feel their "natural" hair plight is the same as ours and I don't understand black folks who understand and feel that it is.

I don't think I had ever heard yt folks refer to their hair as "natural" until our natural hair plight took off. :nono:
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This. I was in the Dollar Store over the weekend and overheard one of the employees compliment a WG on her stick thin, bleached blonde hair. The WG responded by saying she's decided to "Go Natural" and is really excited about her new hair journey as she thanked the employee for the compliment. That was the first i'd ever heard of them using the term "going natural". I rolled my eyes and kept it moving. This little girl was so clueless as most of those that use the term and have no idea what it really means.
 
There were black women with looser curls than Sarah's featured on CN and just like those women, who didn't have a problem with texture or breakage or even too-early relaxing, Sarah went on a hair journey of self-acceptance. It's not always about the hair itself, but one's own conception of her hair. Self-acceptance is important too, and plenty of mixed black women with looser curl patterns have had to navigate their hair journeys in less tangible, but no less important ways than someone like me with thick, stubborn 4C hair. I understand those who might be upset with this for more political/historical reasons, but natural hair journeys are individual journeys, and as long as we stick together and continue to build ourselves up, while creating a positive and enriching environment for present and future black women, it won't matter what others are doing.
 
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Solitude said:
Y'all have every right to unsubscribe from these vloggers, but just realize that a lot of Type 4 vloggers are involved with NaturallyCurly.com and I don't think they are all "sell-outs." They get involved for free products, brand promotion, and to just to help other Type 4s.

My whole thing is, y'all would be mad if NaturallyCurly.com did not include blacks/women with type 4 hair, but you're also mad at the women who get the deals and partnerships. Let those women live.

Evelyn from the Internets works for NC.com in Austin and Jouelzy is always flying down there to Texas, so she is either involved with NC.com or trying to be, even as much as she gripes about texture discrimination.

Blakizbeautyful (Jennell Stewart) keeps it all the way real about her hair journey and she is a NC.com vlogger. Mahogany Curls started out on NC and LexiwiththeCurls has worked with them as well. Before some of the black blogs were established, these ladies partnered with NC.com. I don't care for the continued characterization of NaturallyCurly's founders as some sort of racists. I don't get that from them, at all. They were pioneers in the curly hair thing and were smart enough to snatch up some black blogs early on in order to expand their reach. I don't see anything wrong with that...

Texture Media (Naturally Curly) is a MEDIA company. Of course they promote their own bloggers and vloggers.
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Unfortunately we do not have many black companies with the manpower, finances and connections to extend deals and partnerships to the black natural hair bloggers. Being that this is the case I can understand why some natural hair bloggers might partner with a company like Texture Media to expand their viewership. But is it too much to ask that these things stay exclusively black? It seems like Texture Media and others like them want to mold the blogs and vlogs to represent their own interests (ie white folks interests) rather than those of the black women on whom the empire has been built.

Sent from my galaxy s4 using LHCF
 
aquajoyice said:
This. I was in the Dollar Store over the weekend and overheard one of the employees compliment a WG on her stick thin, bleached blonde hair. The WG responded by saying she's decided to "Go Natural" and is really excited about her new hair journey as she thanked the employee for the compliment. That was the first i'd ever heard of them using the term "going natural". I rolled my eyes and kept it moving. This little girl was so clueless as most of those that use the term and have no idea what it really means.
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It's Chef all over again.
NSFW: http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/154102/flippity-floppity-floop

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zora said:
And call it intuition, but I never liked CN. I never got what all the hoopla was about.
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Me either!!! I was on the site for like 2 days when I found BHM and then found LHCF. I stayed on BHM through most of my learning curve and then put my big girl chonies on and came here (meaning I finally paid to post. I was always a lurker while I was learning and posting on BHM)

But on CN I couldnt find what I was looking for I guess. Mind you I have a loose curl pattern so you would think I would fit in where ever. But I didnt have the sense of community or unity there I guess is what I'm saying.

I forgot they even existed in all honesty until all this popped off. I also want to add that I'm not mad at these bloggers for making money and having white folk sign the check. I mean white folk sign my checks. But there is a difference between making your money, your hustle, what ever you want to call it and turning your back on the ones who made you. You dont bite the hand that feeds you. White girls were not checking for these chicks until we (not me obviously but we as a whole) gave them clicks, made their videos youtube features, shared them on social medias and what not. We did that! Not Becky. But now Becky wants to be involved and you give her some shine and we have something to say about it you want to cape for her? nah, thats where she messed up. Had she gave the girl shine and got the feedback from her followers that they werent thrilled with this and said "Hey yall, my bad, just sharing different stories. I know this chick dont have OUR natural issues but she could help some of my becky followers" I think there would have been a totally different response. But to cape for her the way she did and then have her "homie" throw their capes on? I dont see how she DIDNT see this coming is all I'm saying.
 
I'm late to the party but I must say I had no idea all this was going on behind the scenes. I refer people to CN all the time because her website is pretty user friendly and generic for people new to being natural. You know how you refer folks to LHCF or NP and they say " Ain't nobody got time for that." SMH.
 
felic1 said:
Are Nikki Walton's missionary hair expeditions to Africa being paid for by her white sponsors? Ebony is not required to fund her travels. Furthermore, Ebony and Essence have featured natual hair in their magazines for years. Like LHCF, these publications have features that celebrate hair that is relaxed and non relaxed. I really believe that women in Africa have the lead on us regarding kinky hair care. They were never forcibly displaced by slave owners to desist in hair care practices. These women had hair care techniques passed on to them by mothers and grandmothers. I think CN is chasing fame and fortune. Her mission is not to attain cultural cohesiveness.
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In Africa they may have not been uprooted physically but mentally many of them were through colonization. White man when hard in Africa like they do any area they put their grubby paws in. They have also been made second class citizens in their own homes and taught for many years that white is right and black is wrong causing self hate there as well.

If you go to certain parts of Africa you will see just as much weaves and relaxed to death hair along with skin lighteners and blue contacts.

One thing I can say for white is they have a pigeon hold on pushing their issues on to others. They have it down pact to a science and I would swear they learn this in the womb!!!
 
curlytwirly06 said:
Girl bye, you are so wrong for posting this, I peed a little.
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Mz.MoMo5235 said:
EXACTLY!!!! WE CANT HAVE NOTHING!!!!! :lachen:

If yall could hear the way I yelled that in my head!!!
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I imagined it George Lopez style. "We can never have NOTHIN'!"

I can't help it. That scene pops up every time someone mentions white people stealing black culture. Because it's so d**n true! They have the rest of the freaking world. What more do they want?!

I'm all for people accepting others and us as human beings coming together but I think us having spaces to where we can express our issues and get support from people who have gone through the same things is critical to us as a people healing after centuries of pain and negativity. Only then can we even try to open ourselves to considering others. And only then can we create a loud enough voice to get us on equal footing (not acceptance. I'm not here for that).

I hope that makes sense.
 
aviddiva77 said:
I imagined it George Lopez style. "We can never have NOTHIN'!"

I can't help it. That scene pops up every time someone mentions white people stealing black culture. Because it's so d**n true! They have the rest of the freaking world. What more do they want?!

I'm all for people accepting others and us as human beings coming together but I think us having spaces to where we can express our issues and get support from people who have gone through the same things is critical to us as a people healing after centuries of pain and negativity. Only then can we even try to open ourselves to considering others. And only then can we create a loud enough voice to get us on equal footing (not acceptance. I'm not here for that).

I hope that makes sense.
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it makes complete sense!!! Its like the Oktoberfest! Yes everyone is invited to partake in some German culture. But You dont see me setting up a tent to do black folk stuff. AND THERE ARE BLACK PEOPLE BORN AND RAISED IN GERMANY!!! But its their culture that we all get to celebrate. But they dont want to celebrate WITH us! They want it for them selves! And why should we hand it over?

They can have their "curly becky" revolution. I dont care! Let them embrace their curls they've blow dried and flat ironed into submission. Do it, have fun, do the damn thing. But leave our space alone and for us.

That's really what the whole thing boils down to. We want our own space where we can be safe, be amongst each other, black women from all over the globe with a common ground and support system. When do we ever get to have that? When have we been able to have this on the scale that it is now because of the awesomeness of the internet?

What I feel it really goes down to is how many times do we come together for positivity and uplifing and how often do they barge in and say "nope, we cant have this?" Why? Because they know how powerful we can be when we have unity and with power comes independence... independence form THEM!
 
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