I'm having a Rose Nylund moment. What does LOA means?
Hi makeupgirl....
ummm, now it's my turn:
Who's Rose Nylund? I'm serious who is she?
I'm having a Rose Nylund moment. What does LOA means?
I was up early this morning watching t.v. and some minister named Popoff came on.
It seems to me that his ministry is based upon LOA. I heard no salvific story of anything, just getting miracle water and having him write a letter of prophecy to contributors to his ministry.
In other words, it was a prayer in exchange for money - a lot of money! There were people who had been praying for answers to their mortgages etc. (I know some might be plants and fake)
but this is attractive to the hurting.
In a large sense, I believe they were putting their sights on material needs and somehow imagining them to be fulfilled...via Popoff. Of course, everything comes from G-d.
But if we divert our trust in Him, it might be through evil. I'm not saying that holy water, prayer cloths etc. are wrong, they are biblical.
But I suspect that ministries like that are basically focused on a type of LOA with the "christian" stamp of approval on it. Essentially, it seems to be name-it-claim-it, which is LOA in many regards.
Shimmie
Lol rose nylund was one of the characters on golden girls played by betty white.
She was kind of dense in the head at times.
As you can see, there's lots of clarity ...my faith is fine...
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But I was so disgusted. And the way they look into the camara, guilting people to send them 1700.00. Ok, so your mortgage is in trouble and G-d has told Popoff to tell you to send him 1700 bucks so that he can hear from G-d that you'll be blessed with 10,000 bucks via Popoff's holy letter? Um, dood, trust in Jesus anyway...pray for a change anyway...but if you have 1700 bucks and are in foreclosure danger, you might wanna contact the bank, make 1/2 the payment, apply for mortgage relief, buy groceries, medicine, pay other bills...rather than a faith witness to pay Popoff and HOPE that G-d honors your stupidity. How wretched are those who prey on the poor, sick and hurting! Does anyone consider that they are just one dime in a stack of hundreds of thousands sending in 1700.00?
This is where I think people get into trouble mostly...they fret and become vulnerable to thieves. I'm not calling Popoff a thief, I'm questioning him and anyone else who demands a large sum of money for G-d's blessing to ensue. Secondly, they fall into the prosperity gospel where LOA is quite active. G-d does give us riches...but some He keeps poor and sick for His own reason. There is much blessing in suffering and who knows how much G-d uses their faith and pain to magnify His own for the benefit of folks we will never know? We don't know. We are to trust and WORK for our needs, believing Him...but if it's "no", then it's "no." Where's there's an impasse or lack, when we have honestly given it all or are absolutely incapable, TRUST...there is G-d in the gap anyway, always.
G-d has certainly worked miracles in my life and I know there are some who are appalled, surprised, shocked and downright jealous...but He honored my prayers. We're to trust in Him but use our common sense. We've lost our ability to use our common sense thereby allowing people to abuse us. We now believe in mumbo-jumbo such that it wasn't our own hard work that helped us achieve things? Sure, you sow well, you reap well but this goes beyond that principle (prosperity gospel that's now secular).
My eyes were opened to this before I converted to the Church. Sometimes, you'd listen to those convincing ministers and want to believe. They use psychology and "magic" to reel people in. How many of them are left cold and hungrier than when they came? Those are fakes to make you believe. And Popoff uses BLACK people for those erplexed Look at the hordes of Latinos, Blacks of all nationalities, Hmong/Laotian and Russians in those audiences. But anyhoo, draw your house, make a playset, plan and work but if it crosses into the realm of you willing such, you've gone to far.
As you can see, there's lots of clarity ...my faith is fine...
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But I was so disgusted. And the way they look into the camara, guilting people to send them 1700.00. Ok, so your mortgage is in trouble and G-d has told Popoff to tell you to send him 1700 bucks so that he can hear from G-d that you'll be blessed with 10,000 bucks via Popoff's holy letter? Um, dood, trust in Jesus anyway...pray for a change anyway...but if you have 1700 bucks and are in foreclosure danger, you might wanna contact the bank, make 1/2 the payment, apply for mortgage relief, buy groceries, medicine, pay other bills...rather than a faith witness to pay Popoff and HOPE that G-d honors your stupidity. How wretched are those who prey on the poor, sick and hurting! Does anyone consider that they are just one dime in a stack of hundreds of thousands sending in 1700.00?
This is where I think people get into trouble mostly...they fret and become vulnerable to thieves. I'm not calling Popoff a thief, I'm questioning him and anyone else who demands a large sum of money for G-d's blessing to ensue. Secondly, they fall into the prosperity gospel where LOA is quite active. G-d does give us riches...but some He keeps poor and sick for His own reason. There is much blessing in suffering and who knows how much G-d uses their faith and pain to magnify His own for the benefit of folks we will never know? We don't know. We are to trust and WORK for our needs, believing Him...but if it's "no", then it's "no." Where's there's an impasse or lack, when we have honestly given it all or are absolutely incapable, TRUST...there is G-d in the gap anyway, always.
G-d has certainly worked miracles in my life and I know there are some who are appalled, surprised, shocked and downright jealous...but He honored my prayers. We're to trust in Him but use our common sense. We've lost our ability to use our common sense thereby allowing people to abuse us. We now believe in mumbo-jumbo such that it wasn't our own hard work that helped us achieve things? Sure, you sow well, you reap well but this goes beyond that principle (prosperity gospel that's now secular).
My eyes were opened to this before I converted to the Church. Sometimes, you'd listen to those convincing ministers and want to believe. They use psychology and "magic" to reel people in. How many of them are left cold and hungrier than when they came? Those are fakes to make you believe. And Popoff uses BLACK people for those erplexed Look at the hordes of Latinos, Blacks of all nationalities, Hmong/Laotian and Russians in those audiences. But anyhoo, draw your house, make a playset, plan and work but if it crosses into the realm of you willing such, you've gone to far.
There is so much crap being added to this forum on a daily basis....
WHAT YOU COMPROMISE TO KEEP.....YOU LOSE!
I just can't right now.....
Why would a Christian need LOA?
Where do your desires actually come from? Is it based on God's will for your life or your own will for your life?
It seems to me, that LOA is a wish whatever you like, you can be, have and experience whatever you can imagine, all your desires come from you.
The bible tells us that the steps of a righteous man are ordered by the Lord.
When we consider our walk here on earth we need to commit or shall I say trust in the Lord in all ways and concerning all things.
Psalms 37:3,4,5,&7
Proverbs 3:6
In ALL your ways acknowledge Him, and He SHALL direct your paths.
There is only one God and in Him we find truth and everlasting life through Christ.
Seek first the Kingdom and His righteousness and all these things will be added to you.
Hi Ms. Shimmie
Rose is a character on Golden Girls. She a little out there and scatterbrain but very sweet.
I have about 10 bible verses on mine which I stand their and read them very day. So, no I don't believe them to be demonic.
I am Christian and hv been been saved along time, not saying I'm perfect by NO MEANS! I was just reading over the comments and I want to say that I once three years ago was introduced to LOA and I got pretty intrigued with it and wanted to know more about it. I bought the secret and watched it and read the book, but I noticed I kept getting an unsettling spirit about it but I kept going. I made vision boards etc. But I NEVER seen any types of manifestation from it.
About 3 weeks ago I had in depth discussion with some ppl about it and realized it was NOT of God!!! I then immediately threw away everything I had in my home that was related to the LOA!!! If u noticed they gv god NO reverence to God they believe u hv the power to manifest things on your own and if that were the case we would not hv the need to go through Jesus and there would be no need to pray and ask God for anything because we wouldn't need him we could manifest it ourselves.
Now we are to hv faith and trust that God can bring our desires according his will to pass in our life. Anything that does not reverence God/Jesus and leaves him out is NOT of him. And if u/it r not with God then it/u r against God.
If u find that u r offend by what I just typed then it's time to do some self inventory and seek God to make sure u r making wise decisions in your beliefs
As I respond, this is not coming against you in disrespect nor disharmony.
I want to make a strong point to 'Be careful with this' perception, as it can be misleading...it 'implies' that Jesus is not the 'only' path into God's kingdom.
In connection, 'you know who' is a 'dismissal' of God's importance. His Name is Jesus, not you know who.
Shared in love...
Why would a Christian need LOA?
Where do your desires actually come from? Is it based on God's will for your life or your own will for your life?
It seems to me, that LOA is a wish whatever you like, you can be, have and experience whatever you can imagine, all your desires come from you.
The bible tells us that the steps of a righteous man are ordered by the Lord.
When we consider our walk here on earth we need to commit or shall I say trust in the Lord in all ways and concerning all things.
Psalms 37:3,4,5,&7
Proverbs 3:6
In ALL your ways acknowledge Him, and He SHALL direct your paths.
There is only one God and in Him we find truth and everlasting life through Christ.
Seek first the Kingdom and His righteousness and all these things will be added to you.
I have a vision board and whatever I'm trying to manifest I back it up with scripture.
For example I wanted to manifest good credit so I put that on my board and I loosed it in heaven and earth by holding on to Deuteronomy 15:1 and the law of debt cancellation (I hope that's the right verse). I want to finish grad school next year so next to a picture of a cap and gown I added proverbs 2:2-11.
The law of attraction isn't something that the world invented. These principles are discussed throughout the bible. You have to have a vision and faith if you want something in your life whether its a house, peace in your household, or to be healed. Jesus said "Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours." (Mark 11:24 NIV)
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The one thing people do not understand about idolatry is that it always ends up being about "me, me, me"...what I think is best...oh, look at how good I am...see how successful/blessed I am... Every time Israel thought she could do what the world does and worship the Father, her husband, He taught her otherwise, multiple times. Just because God ordered a brass serpent to be made and hung to heal people does not mean He wanted it to be an thing of worship.@ellebelle88
I couldn't have said it better myself. I use vision boards, but I don't just put material things on there. I put my favorite quotes from the bible, pictures of my family and quotes from Christian ministers that speak to me.
We all have a unique relationship with God. We are all different and our journey to with him will be different as well. If you don't like something it doesn't make it of the devil. At one point in time people believed chocolate to be a temptation of the devil, and we all know that isn't true.
God created this universe that we live in, that shows that He is not limited. As humans we need to stop trying to box God within the limitations of man. I talk to God everyday and ask him to bless the things that I want for myself wheather that be spiritually, mentally, emotionally or physically. And if I want something that isn't good for me then I ask for guidance and direction to the place I need to be.
I find that having a vision board helps me weed out all the unnecessary things and focus. I believe that through my faith and works I will be blessed.
2 Corinthians 4:18 - While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
You will never convince me reading my favorite bible verses everyday is demonic. I don't have any material items on mine.