Ateya: Rubberbands on wet hair????

[glamazon386]

Totally agree to the bolded.

You know, there are 4 things that I teach my children (and they are only 4 years old) are the foundations of a successful life:

1) Do not lie
2) Do not steal
3) Treat people the way that you want to be treated
4) If people ask for your opinion, see #1 but remember #3
5) Do not think that people are dumber than you are.

I think #5 applies in this situation. If we know (or think that we know) that what Ateeya does to her her is bad practice, what makes us think that other people don't know this as well??!! And if they do not know, they will learn as we did.

This is all that I am going to say in this post.

But you know what, you'd be surprised how many people out there do bad stuff to their hair and are none the wiser. They just don't know any better.

You'd be surprised how many women I see walking around on a daily basis with their hair snatched back with a rubberband. And I'm talking about those thick tan rubberbands that you see on newspapers. Not even those black hair rubberbands. You would think people would know better but I guess not.

My mom always used ponytail holders so that's what I always used. But even my mom raised the eyebrow at me for some of my methods and mine aren't that unorthodox because I keep it simple. She sees my hair is growing so she doesn't really comment anymore. And her hair has gotten much longer since I've been taking care of it for her since last summer. Now if I could get her to stop going to the Dominicans when she doesn't have time to deal with it and doesn't want to bother me we'd be alright.

 

[loolalooh]

Lawd have mercy! Are you guys going to critique every little thing that woman does?!

To answer the question, yes I have and my hair is still past APL, healthy, and has not broken off because of it. I don't practice every LHCF rule, I do what works for me and Ateya has said the same.

A big THANK YOU on that one!!

 

[soulie]

Perhaps I'm missing the point of a lot of the YTs. If the point of the videos isn't to instruct and share knowledge, then why are they being posted? If I made a video of me brushing my teeth and I post it, is it because I think I have a technique worth sharing that might be useful to someone else, or is it that I am an exhibitionist who just wants to know people are watching me "floss"? So in the instant case, is Ateyaa attempting to inform or instruct or is she an exhibitionist? If the former is the case, then it is appropriate to discuss her techniques and what about those techniques is potentially damaging. In the latter case, let the voyeurs subscribe and ogle. 'Tis all.

 

[msa]

I swear people put ateya's name in their thread titles just to get more responses.

 

[TrendySocialite]

I watched the video and wasn't impressed. I usually don't have a problem with Ateyya's methods and have adopted quite a few of them.

When she first started putting in the ponytail I had to look at the date the video was created because I did that method in 1993 and 1994. But to each her own...

I was just disappointed that in the day of drawstring ponytails and such that she still chose to wrap track hair around her hair.

At the end of the day, I love Ateyya (our names rhyme). I think she is beautiful and generally helpful. Everyone in this forum doesn't do every healthy hair practice and their hair still thrives. It's funny the shock and awe people seem to have over gel, rubber bands and such. IMO if you use other healthy hair care practices (DC regularly, moving location of ponytails, washing or co-washing regularly to prevent prodcut building and to counteract the drying effects of gel) the damage gel and rubber bands cause would be minimized.

It is important for each person to determine which hair care practices (healthy or not) that works for their hair. Then to heck with the nay-sayers! Unless they are going to come to your house and do your hair or pay for it to be done, forget their criticism.

Besides ladies...it's just hair.

 

[glamazon386]

How does that sound like "I am gonna use rubberbands"?

Girl IDK. People are just tripping. I think I might wear a phony pony today myself. And I'm gonna gel back wet hair and look good doing it.

I just don't see why people keep getting their panties in a bunch over her or anything in life that really doesn't even apply to them. Is Ateeya keeping y'all from sleeping at night? NO. Is she paying your bills? NO. So close out of her YT channel and KIM. It's really not that serious. If you're a member here and her methods are so bad, you wouldn't be caught dead following them anyway so what is the point of watching?

And don't y'all realize YT posters get paid $ for every time their videos are viewed? You're putting money in HER pocket whether you like her or not. Look at how many views this one video has in comparison to her other ones. It's like 25,000. She's probably laughing at all you bashers.

 

[TCatt86]

If it works for her then what's the problem, I use gel for my puffs and ponytails and I do it on wet hair. The only thing that was weird was when she gelled the track in, never seen that done before. I really wonder why every little thing Ateeya does is so scrutinized. Would I do that stuff to my hair, but I think she values style over anything else.

 

[glamazon386]

I watched the video and wasn't impressed. I usually don't have a problem with Ateyya's methods and have adopted quite a few of them.

When she first started putting in the ponytail I had to look at the date the video was created because I did that method in 1993 and 1994. But to each her own...

I was just disappointed that in the day of drawstring ponytails and such that she still chose to wrap track hair around her hair.

At the end of the day, I love Ateyya (our names rhyme). I think she is beautiful and generally helpful. Everyone in this forum doesn't do every healthy hair practice and their hair still thrives. It's funny the shock and awe people seem to have over gel, rubber bands and such. IMO if you use other healthy hair care practices (DC regularly, moving location of ponytails, washing or co-washing regularly to prevent prodcut building and to counteract the drying effects of gel) the damage gel and rubber bands cause would be minimized.

It is important for each person to determine which hair care practices (healthy or not) that works for their hair. Then to heck with the nay-sayers! Unless they are going to come to your house and do your hair or pay for it to be done, forget their criticism.

Besides ladies...it's just hair.

Some people don't like drawstrings. Maybe she's one of them? I for one don't like them. IMO, Most of them look premanufactured and super shiny on your head. And they never stay right on my head. If it's not up there secure or it moves the whole thing looks lopsided and heaven forbid it falls off. And it's rare that you see drawstrings in human hair and when you do they're expensive especially if they're long.

I think wrapping and pinning the track looks more natural and that's how I do mine. Plus you have more options or can reuse hair you have leftover for something else. But to each his own. But I agree with your post. We all have to do what's best for us.

 

[*Frisky*]

First off, why was the video 23 mins? The actual style turned out nice in the end. I'd wear it. I probably wouldn't wear a straight bang with a crinkly ponytail but it looked nice on her.

As far as methods go, I've never seen anybody GEL a track in. I guess it's better than gluing it. I wouldn't have left my hair out in the middle or flat ironed it. Protective style to me means no heat or unnecessary stuff done to my hair. But I understand why she did it when she was initially going for the straight look. I would have just made a little bun out of my hair.

But outside of those things, I don't see what the big deal is. The way she did the actual ponytail is the same way I do mine, and the same way they were done on my relaxed hair back in the day and I never had any problems. I haven't used brown protein gel since I was a teenager though. I had switched over to the clear kind and now I use Fantasia IC or EcoStyler (which is a protein gel that ppl use here on the board so wth?!?). But I do my ponytails the same way. I pull back wet hair with a ponytail holder (She did not use a rubberband people. She even showed it in the camera.) and then pin the ponytail on. I'm not bald headed as a result. I wear buns and phony ponies all the time.

I guess some people just HAVE to find something to nitpick about. And I think it has something to do with having an issue with Ateeya period. Outside of her gelling that track in the front for the swoop how is her video any different from this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFtYp7v7aRY

But I'm sure we'd all agree with prettydimples' methods. IMO, her methods would be LHCF approved and she's a licensed stylist so that gives her more credibility.

This is exactly what I think..her confidence is a problem for some people. I think she is a very sweet person and her attitude about life is refreshing and is a positive thing. I never really have followed her hair advice because I know what's works for my hair but there are alot of females that comment saying how their hair is doing better since finding her videos. I think her setback has alot of people saying "I told you so" but it can happen to anybody. One day she will figure out the right way to keep her hair thriving but until then, she may still experience bumps in the road but that is for her to figure out on her own. All the negativety and rude comments probably are not gonna help that process.

 

[TrendySocialite]

Some people don't like drawstrings. Maybe she's one of them? I for one don't like them. IMO, Most of them look premanufactured and super shiny on your head. And they never stay right on my head. If it's not up there secure or it moves the whole thing looks lopsided and heaven forbid it falls off. And it's rare that you see drawstrings in human hair and when you do they're expensive especially if they're long.

I think wrapping and pinning the track looks more natural and that's how I do mine. Plus you have more options or can reuse hair you have leftover for something else. But to each his own. But I agree with your post. We all have to do what's best for us.

I hear what you're saying. I've never had a problem with my drawstrings not looking natural or anything. But then again, people know it's not my hair so why fake the funk...LOL I mean I go from wiggin' it one day to wearing my own hair the next and a phony pony the next. As long as I like it and it looks good on me, then I'm cool and don't care if people think it looks natural or not. But I guess I can see the benefits of adding track hair. And the fact that she flat ironed wet and wavy hair (although I understand why she used it) just was a lot of extra work IMO. Drawstrings are super easy and mine are tight (I wrap the drawstring around the base of ponytail and pin it underneath).

 

[Priss Pot]

Whoa, so YTers get paid for making videos?

Hmmm.......

 

[TrendySocialite]

This is exactly what I think..her confidence is a problem for some people. I think she is a very sweet person and her attitude about life is refreshing and is a positive thing. I never really have followed her hair advice because I know what's works for my hair but there are alot of females that comment saying how their hair is doing better since finding her videos. I think her setback has alot of people saying "I told you so" but it can happen to anybody. One day she will figure out the right way to keep her hair thriving but until then, she may still experience bumps in the road but that is for her to figure out on her own. All the negativety and rude comments probably are not gonna help that process.

That's what people seem to forget...

People forget it's called a journey for a reason. Doesn't mean every style, every practice, every regimen is going to work. It's trial and error and JOURNEY...

 

[Vshanell]

First off, why was the video 23 mins? The actual style turned out nice in the end. I'd wear it. I probably wouldn't wear a straight bang with a crinkly ponytail but it looked nice on her.

As far as methods go, I've never seen anybody GEL a track in. I guess it's better than gluing it. I wouldn't have left my hair out in the middle or flat ironed it. Protective style to me means no heat or unnecessary stuff done to my hair. But I understand why she did it when she was initially going for the straight look. I would have just made a little bun out of my hair.

But outside of those things, I don't see what the big deal is. The way she did the actual ponytail is the same way I do mine, and the same way they were done on my relaxed hair back in the day and I never had any problems. I haven't used brown protein gel since I was a teenager though. I had switched over to the clear kind and now I use Fantasia IC or EcoStyler (which is a protein gel that ppl use here on the board so wth?!?). But I do my ponytails the same way. I pull back wet hair with a ponytail holder (She did not use a rubberband people. She even showed it in the camera.) and then pin the ponytail on. I'm not bald headed as a result. I wear buns and phony ponies all the time.

I guess some people just HAVE to find something to nitpick about. And I think it has something to do with having an issue with Ateeya period. Outside of her gelling that track in the front for the swoop how is her video any different from this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFtYp7v7aRY

But I'm sure we'd all agree with prettydimples' methods. IMO, her methods would be LHCF approved and she's a licensed stylist so that gives her more credibility.

I know, lol. I didn't even think youtube let you upload anything over 10 minutes. It's funny because I tried to watch it yesterday and got halfway through then forgot all about it and went to something else. I finished the last half today....or rather I fast forwarded to the last part, lol.

 

[glamazon386]

I hear what you're saying. I've never had a problem with my drawstrings not looking natural or anything. But then again, people know it's not my hair so why fake the funk...LOL I mean I go from wiggin' it one day to wearing my own hair the next and a phony pony the next. As long as I like it and it looks good on me, then I'm cool and don't care if people think it looks natural or not. But I guess I can see the benefits of adding track hair. And the fact that she flat ironed wet and wavy hair (although I understand why she used it) just was a lot of extra work IMO. Drawstrings are super easy and mine are tight (I wrap the drawstring around the base of ponytail and pin it underneath).

I can spot drawstrings and those premanufactured buns a mile away. I hate seeing bad looking ones. And I see more bad ones than good ones on the day to day. And they usually just look like somebody plopped a piece on top their head. And people rarely match the texture to their own. WTF is that about??! If your'e going to wear fake hair at least try to fool somebody instead of looking ridiculous. ITA, flat ironing the wavy ponytail was a bit much. I would have just bought straight hair and kept that wavy for something else. Maybe she bought the wrong thing initially?

 

[taz007]

But you know what, you'd be surprised how many people out there do bad stuff to their hair and are none the wiser. They just don't know any better.

You'd be surprised how many women I see walking around on a daily basis with their hair snatched back with a rubberband. And I'm talking about those thick tan rubberbands that you see on newspapers. Not even those black hair rubberbands. You would think people would know better but I guess not.

My mom always used ponytail holders so that's what I always used. But even my mom raised the eyebrow at me for some of my methods and mine aren't that unorthodox because I keep it simple. She sees my hair is growing so she doesn't really comment anymore. And her hair has gotten much longer since I've been taking care of it for her since last summer. Now if I could get her to stop going to the Dominicans when she doesn't have time to deal with it and doesn't want to bother me we'd be alright.

I agree with you however:

Keep reading my post (where you left off the bold) it states "if they do not know, they will learn" ...

 

[Vshanell]

Whoa, so YTers get paid for making videos?

Hmmm.......

I didn't know that either. I think they get a lot of free products to make reviews on too. Must be nice but i just can't fool with youtube.

 

[*Frisky*]

I know, lol. I didn't even think youtube let you upload anything over 10 minutes. It's funny because I tried to watch it yesterday and got halfway through then forgot all about it and went to something else. I finished the last half today....or rather I fast forwarded to the last part, lol.

I think once you become a partner or whatever that term is on Youtube, you are allowed to make longer videos.

 

[glamazon386]

Whoa, so YTers get paid for making videos?

Hmmm.......

Yep that's how SouljaBoy got his start. He was discovered on YT. I think they get paid like .20 per view.

 

[Lucky's Mom]

Good lord. I spent the 23 minutes looking at the vid. I like how she made the bangs....

Um. I guess I can see why her hair is a mess. Gel City.

 

[Priss Pot]

I didn't know that either. I think they get a lot of free products to make reviews on too. Must be nice but i just can't fool with youtube.

I just looked it up online, and you have to have thousands of subscribers in order to "partner."

I wouldn't mind starting videos, but I dunno. My issue would be upkeep and finding the time to do it on a regular basis.

 

[glamazon386]

I agree with you however:

Keep reading my post (where you left off the bold) it states "if they do not know, they will learn" ...

I read your whole post hun. And some people NEVER learn. These weren't only young women I saw. Some people have broken off damaged hair their whole life. They never learn. And many use wigs and weaves to cover it up and they're really just putting a band aid on the problem instead of fixing it.

 

[TrendySocialite]

I can spot drawstrings and those premanufactured buns a mile away. I hate seeing bad looking ones. And I see more bad ones than good ones on the day to day. And they usually just look like somebody plopped a piece on top their head. And people rarely match the texture to their own. WTF is that about??! At least try to fool somebody.

It's a matter of personal preference. For me, I don't care for someone who has uber short hair trying to rock a bun, especially a donut bun.

I do try to match texture and color with my hair. And just like anything, they have a shelf life.

But since I don't wear my hair for anyone else, I don't worry about fooling someone. I get compliments on my hairstyles, wigs and phony ponies...but even if I didn't, it's for me, not for them. At the end of the day I walk out of the house pleased with how I look and that's what matters.

For those who rock overly shiny ponies and buns that don't match their texture, that's on them. Like my friend says, do you boo! I have plenty to worry with trying to keep my hair moisturized healthy and ready to transition to natural...

 

[loved]

If she used a Goody band, they make a product called, "No Damage Elastic Bands." That's what I typically pick up from WalMart when I need another pack of rubber bands for my hair.

I liked the video and the end result. I've always wanted to know how to add a bang with a track, and I like that she showed how to do something quick without glue. I like that she is willing to show things that she acknowledges may or may not work and that she shows the good and the bad. I keep a bag of hair so I may be adding that hairstyle to my arsenal, but doing it my own way.

I didn't know that gel was a LHCF no-no, but I probably would not have paid attention. My hair thrived in the past when I wore a style that used a lot of gel (labeled non alcohol).

 

[Bachelorette]

Im watching and she specifically says "Im using something like a rubberband but of course it's not", so i dont know how that statement spurned such a title

also most of the gobs of gel is being placed on the weave more than her hair

 

[Freespirit02]

Lawd have mercy! Are you guys going to critique every little thing that woman does?!

To answer the question, yes I have and my hair is still past APL, healthy, and has not broken off because of it. I don't practice every LHCF rule, I do what works for me and Ateya has said the same.

I wasn't really saying it was good or bad.. I was just saying that I have never tried it before. I wanted advice before i tried it.

 

[glamazon386]

It's a matter of personal preference. For me, I don't care for someone who has uber short hair trying to rock a bun, especially a donut bun.

I do try to match texture and color with my hair. And just like anything, they have a shelf life.

But since I don't wear my hair for anyone else, I don't worry about fooling someone. I get compliments on my hairstyles, wigs and phony ponies...but even if I didn't, it's for me, not for them. At the end of the day I walk out of the house pleased with how I look and that's what matters.

For those who rock overly shiny ponies and buns that don't match their texture, that's on them. Like my friend says, do you boo! I have plenty to worry with trying to keep my hair moisturized healthy and ready to transition to natural...

I would have to agree. If you have a good weave, wig, phony pony the average person with an untrained eye isn't going to be able to tell anyway. I am the weave/wig/phony pony queen and have been wearing all of those things since I was a teenager so you don't have to tell me.

I'm sure you're fine. But it's the bad ones that give them a bad rap altogether. I just hate to see people with hair that looks a HAM whether it's real or fake, but that's just me. People should take pride in their appearance and look presentable regardless. And you're right it's about personal preferences. I personally don't like for anything on me to be very obvious looking. That goes for hair, nails, makeup, clothes, etc. I prefer natural reserved looks, clothing, accessories, etc. Some people like to be out there and ostentatious. To each his own.

 

[taz007]

I read your whole post hun. And some people NEVER learn. These weren't only young women I saw. Some people have broken off damaged hair their whole life. They never learn. And many use wigs and weaves to cover it up and they're really just putting a band aid on the problem instead of fixing it.

Then they would not be successful, would they?

 

[Freespirit02]

Her exact quote was "something like a rubberband, but it's not". I think she was trying to describe the goody elastic bands, which are fine for your hair.

Actually she said she was going to use an actual rubberband..but she couldn't find one, so she used that one instead.

 

[glamazon386]

Then they would not be successful, would they?

Not at all. How can they be successful if they never learned what they were doing wrong? You said "And if they do not know, they will learn as we did." All I'm saying is, some people never do. Can you really fault people who don't know any better? Things that are common sense to us, may not be to the next person. I learned that the hard way.

 

[Seven7]

LHCF never fails to amuse me.