Would You Deceive Other Women Seeking Longer Hair for Money?

[B_Phlyy]

I voted yes. I think that most people know that one product or line cannot do so many super amazing things. I read in a magazine once about a hairstylist who hardly ever uses the products that the model is supposed to be promoting and the company has no problem with it.

Furthermore, this is no different than when some women who wear weaves and refuse to divulge that it's not their hair. Nothing against weaves, just keeping it real.

 

[Faith]

If you were asked to be a paid hair model/representative for a well-known company your hair hates or a brand new company you are not familiar with, would you sign on the dotted line and pretend all of your hair growth and success was because of their products?

If it's a new product I'm not sure about...MAYBE
If its a product my hair hates...NO

But honestly, you know what? Just because I say yay or nay to a product doesn't mean others would agree. I could say yay to Aphogee and others hate it...would that be my fault? Or I can say nay to it and others love it...again..am I responsible?
It's a fine line. I do know I can't support what I KNOW was not good for me...I assume it won't be good for others...period..lol

I.E. no way would you see me advertising for Aphogee protein treatment... You would all see me giving eyes signals telling you all to keep the he!! away from it. Kind of like this >>>

 

[Tee]

If it's a new product I'm not sure about...MAYBE
If its a product my hair hates...NO

But honestly, you know what? Just because I say yay or nay to a product doesn't mean others would agree. I could say yay to Aphogee and others hate it...would that be my fault? Or I can say nay to it and others love it...again..am I responsible?
It's a fine line. I do know I can't support what I KNOW was not good for me...I assume it won't be good for others...period..lol

I.E. no way would you see me advertising for Aphogee protein treatment... You would all see me giving eyes signals telling you all to keep the he!! away from it. Kind of like this >>>

Too darn funny!

 

[PaperClip]

You would all see me giving eyes signals telling you all to keep the he!! away from it. Kind of like this >>>

But then nobody would buy the product and then the company would go out of business because of a decline/loss of sales and then, depending on your contractural arrangement, you'd have to return your compensation to the company as part of a bankruptcy agremeent....

What a wicked chain of events!

 

[Faith]

ITA. And a lot of good points made. I would feel like a BIG liar if I claimed all the products in my fotki grew my hair and worked wonders. That is why on most of them you see...."Have not used" I dont know what some of them do!

I am just reading the question as asked.
Would You Deceive Other Women Seeking Longer Hair for Money?

My answer is NO regardless of the money. It didnt ask if I was a model, actress, etc. Just if I would deceive ladies for money. NO NO NO

WORD! Would I deceive women seeking long hair for money? NO! I can get my money some other way. I voted I 'm not sure but it's a qualified answer..lol. NO I would not endorse the product if I KNOW the product and MAYBE if I don't know the product.

 

[Faith]

But then nobody would buy the product and then the company would go out of business because of a decline/loss of sales and then, depending on your contractural arrangement, you'd have to return your compensation to the company as part of a bankruptcy agremeent....

What a wicked chain of events!

Then the onus is on THEM to make a better product Not my problem...lol.

 

[Faith]

Not everyone. But alot of them. People who's products actually work as advertised don't have to lie. I find some products that do actually deliver on their promises.

But lets say it works for 1 person out of the whole how many billion people on earth. They can honestly say it did what they said it would...lol. It may not deliver for you but may for others...it's really a fine line. I guess all we can do is make a decision base don how we feel at the moment. I think the companies can claim whatver and chances are it will work for many but in this example (if we would endorse it)...it would have to be an individual decision.

 

[PaperClip]

Then the onus is on THEM to make a better product Not my problem...lol.

But you contributed to the "onus" by lending your name, your likeness, your credibility to a product...apparently WITHOUT doing your homework to determine the quality of the product.... so basically (metaphorically speaking) you would have "whored" yourself out and didn't even get a chance to enjoy it....

Ooh! Can I say that here?

 

[Faith]

But you contributed to the "onus" by lending your name, your likeness, your credibility to a product...apparently WITHOUT doing your homework to determine the quality of the product.... so basically (metaphorically speaking) you would have "whored" yourself out and didn't even get a chance to enjoy it....

Ooh! Can I say that here?

That's why I said above that I would NOT do it unless it was something I could stand behind. If I didn't know it then MAYBE..(knowing how I am..being a recovering PJ and all I would probably try it first). But I still think they carry the larger responsibility of making a quality product. Even if I say yay or nay...the product should speak for itself to every consumer who purchases it

 

[Bublnbrnsuga]

Don't yall remember the episode of GoodTimes when Florida was offered to a commercial for Vita-bright (I think) that was actually liquor? Poor Michael drunk some of it and got tipsy!! Florida had her doubts about promoting that product beforehand, but when Michael got drunk, she decided against the $$$. See, lessons can be learned from tv

 

[Southernbella.]

I agree with this. I don't see how some folks can feel that being on the relaxer box.... is any different than swanging your hair in a commercial and saying: "This product worked for me! I took these vitamins for 6 months and now I have ankle-length hair!" Yeah, they are on two opposite ends of the spectrum.....

..... but UNLESS you actually used that relaxer to straighten your hair for the picture, both of those acts involve some form of deception. And you either are FOR deception in advertising, or AGAINST deception in advertising. It's black or white, to me.... no grey area!

I was one who said this (I know you weren't calling anyone out specifcally), and I would absolutely want them to use the relaxer on my hair first. I don't think relaxer companies usually advertise that their product makes your hair long, so I wouldn't have a problem with this. If the relaxer straightened my hair, then it would be all good.

 

[MizaniMami]

But you contributed to the "onus" by lending your name, your likeness, your credibility to a product...apparently WITHOUT doing your homework to determine the quality of the product.... so basically (metaphorically speaking) you would have "whored" yourself out and didn't even get a chance to enjoy it....

Ooh! Can I say that here?

Yep! I agree with what you are saying but I still stick to my answer.

Call me "whored out' or whatever, but like another poster says EVERYTHING is marketing is about stretching the truth.

I still say "show me the money" and I know alot of the other ladies given the opp. UPFRONT and PERSONAL would say the same thing. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

[MizaniMami]

I was one who said this (I know you weren't calling anyone out specifcally), and I would absolutely want them to use the relaxer on my hair first. I don't think relaxer companies usually advertise that their product makes your hair long, so I wouldn't have a problem with this. If the relaxer straightened my hair, then it would be all good.

When showing TV ads it is actually against the law to NOT use the product to get the results that they show (on the commercials). Now that does not mean that they can't use it in conjunction with anything else or even mix it with other stuff.

Marketing, it's a beast!

 

[Priss Pot]

I seriously doubt if Kelly Rowland is using Dark & Lovely.

But anyway, I don't think I could really do it. I mean, I understand both sides, because when you look at magazine ads...they're just models. They're modeling clothing ads, perfume ads, car ads. Their modeling agencies set those gigs up for them. Remember the season of ANTM with Nik, Nicole, Bree, etc. when they were taking pictures on that new Ford car? I believe it was the new Ford Fusion, I'm not sure. You think they have to actually own one in order to "model" with it? Those were just ads. So, I guess I sorta understand it from that point of view, but in the end I might have to say no...if it's something that I absolutely WOULD NOT wear, eat, etc. Modeling clothes that look good, good smelling perfume, a nice looking car...that's fine. But you wouldn't dare see me as being a spokesperson for something like Blue Magic or Luster's Pink...or for J.Lo's "Glow"

 

[Tee]

Don't yall remember the episode of GoodTimes when Florida was offered to a commercial for Vita-bright (I think) that was actually liquor? Poor Michael drunk some of it and got tipsy!! Florida had her doubts about promoting that product beforehand, but when Michael got drunk, she decided against the $$$. See, lessons can be learned from tv

Yes, I sure do remember this episode. That was a good one.

 

[Tee]

I seriously doubt if Kelly Rowland is using Dark & Lovely.

But anyway, I don't think I could really do it. I mean, I understand both sides, because when you look at magazine ads...they're just models. They're modeling clothing ads, perfume ads, car ads. Their modeling agencies set those gigs up for them. Remember the season of ANTM with Nik, Nicole, Bree, etc. when they were taking pictures on that new Ford car? I believe it was the new Ford Fusion, I'm not sure. You think they have to actually own one in order to "model" with it? Those were just ads. So, I guess I sorta understand it from that point of view, but in the end I might have to say no...if it's something that I absolutely WOULD NOT wear, eat, etc. Modeling clothes that look good, good smelling perfume, a nice looking car...that's fine. But you wouldn't dare see me as being a spokesperson for something like Blue Magic or Luster's Pink...or for J.Lo's "Glow"

I laughed for real.
*I can't stand Glow either. ewhh*

 

[Wishin4BSL]

Well...I voted to do the commercial. As long as I don't actually have to say that I used the product, then I'm okay with it. Plus, I'm a broke college student trying to go to college for 8 more years for my Ph.D...i NEED the money! I don't even have my BS yet!

 

[firecracker]

I'm still new, too and I am not popular! But I'm real and I'm sincere and this wins over popularity ANY DAY!

Keep ya head up!

Ya think?

 

[KiniKakes]

I was one who said this (I know you weren't calling anyone out specifcally), and I would absolutely want them to use the relaxer on my hair first. I don't think relaxer companies usually advertise that their product makes your hair long, so I wouldn't have a problem with this. If the relaxer straightened my hair, then it would be all good.

Oh ok, kewl!!!

 

[PaperClip]

Ya think?

It's what I'll always know for sure, regardless of the underlying meaning of this response, which was not obvious to me.

 

[EbonyEyes]

I could not in good conscience do such a thing. When I'm in eternity, I do not want to be asked the question "Why did you deceive women for money, money that you couldn't take with you?"

I could try to rationalize it and say that I'm not engaging in deception, but my heart will not accept my mind's explanation.

 

[senimoni]

Come on the board and lie for some commissions - NO
Television or print ad - Show me the money

 

[Lucie]

This is totally OT but Bubln, your hair looks amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[LadyChe]

Sorry y'all.

But I'm trying to eat. Show me the cash.

1) I hope we are not simple enough to assume that the fellas in the Levitra commercials all have trouble "getting it up". They are actors or models - whose job it is to promote a product in return for compensation. I mean, come on people. Accutane and Dr. NipnTuck are much more responsible for the beautiful skin in Hollywood than Loreal or Nutrogena EVAH were.
2) Consumer law - "let the buyer beware". It is the consumer's responsibility to be aware of what they are buying into.
3) For me - this is a case of having to pick your battles. Booty poppin on a handstand in a video = bad role model. Doing the "swang toss" in a commercial for a product that may or may not work for everyone = paid off student loans.
4) Quiet as it's kept, a whole lotta folks on LHCF keep this board a secret for some less than noble reasons. If you aren't reppin' LHCF with your "swang toss", how is that better than being paid to represent what isn't really in your regimen?

 

[JustKiya]

Very interesting....

I would be willing to be a spokesperson for a product that I don't use, and have no interest in using - as long as my 'spokeswoman' speech didn't include me saying 'I used it and got GREAT results'.

I would be willing to smile pretty and model for an ad campaign for something that I don't use, as long as it isn't required that I say 'I used this, and it gave me THIS hair'.

There is a huge difference between modeling/acting and ENDORSING. Endorsing something that my hair hates, or that I personally would not use - no - because that requires me LYING about what I'm using - making an actual statement that I know is NOT true.
Being in an ad campaign for something that my hair hates or I would not use - yes. Just because it doesn't work for ME, doesn't mean it won't work for hundreds - thousands of other women. How many threads are there on LHCF about products that some women LOVE, and other women HATE? Just because it doesn't work for ME, doesn't mean that it doesn't work AT ALL, or is a worthless product.

Of course, I am also in the camp who doesn't think that Brandy, Queen Latifah, Halle Berry OR Eva Pigford use Covergirl to get the skin they have in the ads - *LOL* if anything, they use PHOTOSHOP to get that gorgeous skin. Nor do I think Beyonce and Kelly Rowland use Dark & Lovely in their hair - I suspect it's mostly weave. Does that make me think they are liars? No - they are paid models, advertising for a product. Does it make me think that if I go right out and buy some covergirl, I'mma have Eva's skin? No - nothing you see in a commercial works THAT well alone - NOTHING.

Now, ya'll gonna have me actually LISTENING to commercials to see if those women claim that they use the product themselves to get the results they have.

 

[punchinella]

Halle Berry does all of those Revlon commercials and ads and she even says that she uses it, but whenever you see pics of her out on the street she usually does not even have on makeup. But because it's Halle people will buy it. Is she acting/modeling or lying?

BB King did a Kentucky Fried Chicken commercial and he's a vegeterian.

 

[MizaniMami]

Sorry y'all.

But I'm trying to eat. Show me the cash.

1) I hope we are not simple enough to assume that the fellas in the Levitra commercials all have trouble "getting it up". They are actors or models - whose job it is to promote a product in return for compensation. I mean, come on people. Accutane and Dr. NipnTuck are much more responsible for the beautiful skin in Hollywood than Loreal or Nutrogena EVAH were.
2) Consumer law - "let the buyer beware". It is the consumer's responsibility to be aware of what they are buying into.
3) For me - this is a case of having to pick your battles. Booty poppin on a handstand in a video = bad role model. Doing the "swang toss" in a commercial for a product that may or may not work for everyone = paid off student loans.
4) Quiet as it's kept, a whole lotta folks on LHCF keep this board a secret for some less than noble reasons. If you aren't reppin' LHCF with your "swang toss", how is that better than being paid to represent what isn't really in your regimen?

I love it!

 

[ekomba]

If you were asked to be a paid hair model/representative for a well-known company your hair hates or a brand new company you are not familiar with, would you sign on the dotted line and pretend all of your hair growth and success was because of their products?

lol i dont drink soda but if Pepsi or Mountain dew offered me a good chunk lol i dont know if i would decline hahaha but i wouldnt do a commercial for cigarettes or that stupid Doctor Miracles (lol i could sue them cause their commercial irks me the wrong way). i wouldnt do a relaxer commercial (many times on the box i can spot weaves ) i mean if it s not controversial with my morals i wouldnt mind doing it after all its a commercial they hired u for the job. i view it as acting the same way when u see all those commercials for diet pills they always selecting people with buff bodies and fake doctors hahha they all actors none of them are real doctors. so commercials are more like a revenue. I mean if Beverly Johnson could get away with being a model/representative for Verifen complex aftet Wanakee left , and she s only rocking wigs and weaves and promoted the products sheesh ahaha even B did a commercial for Loreal colours when it was a weave she had on. i m so used to it i view it as a check many people do it as an acting job. but it s true u have to have moral reasons but as long as it does not involve nudity and nobody gets killed lol SHOW ME THE MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY (of course if we talking commercial if Pantene ask me to promote their products and i use Praital lol for that commercial dinero i ll make the switch ahhaha bills got to get paid lol

 

[ekomba]

Hypothetically speaking, what if there was a member here who was paid by a company to advertise their products that SUCKED, had an album displaying their growth and contributing it to those sucky products? Many of the women here would JUMP to purchase those products only to be disappointed and feel dupped if the member's hair 'secret' was uncovered.

true Bublnbrnsuga lol if Pantene was to pay me for instance cause they met me in the street and propositioned me right there and it was okay but not the regular product i use i would not display it lets say to my fotki or advise it to my friends. i just do the commercial as a work for hire and basta the same way i did videos before or was cast as an extra but it would be deceit now if i would go and tell people all over the place outside of the contract that i used this and my hair flourished. the same way u see Halle Berry rocking revlon or queen latifah with Maybeline who tells me she does not use Chanel nail polish or Mac sometimes it s just a job to me it becomes deceit if u start telling people in your entourage and tell everyone that product did this

 

[Lucia]

Yeah, I thought most people knew that.

But if I hated the company, I wouldn't model for them.

Like the Garnis-Fructier long and strong models who 3/4 of them are wearing some serious extensions...
ITA if it's a company I don't like or products my hair hates,(ahem...Pantene) no way...If my hair looks so slammin that they're interested, someone else will be too. If the products are regular and thy're paying $$$$ then OK.