Women Pastors...

[Blossssom]

I totally disagree.

Now, I don't want people who have been getting along famously to start falling out over this.

We are all entitled to our opinions and if you can't agree, at least agree to disagree.

No fighting

 

[Shayla]

my aunt founded her church...she is the pastor...the church has really grown and is now one of the biggest churches in the city...

everyone has their own beliefs, but i don't see anything wrong with women being a pastor, evangelist, etc as long as they're preaching the right things...

there are plenty of men that are church leaders that are fornicating, messing w/ kids, stealing money, and everything else...so just because the pastor is a man doesn't mean that he's one of "the chosen ones"...just something to think about.



also a question...those of you that are not in favor of women pastors, deacons, etc...do you prefer not to listen to juanita bynum, paula white, joyce meyer, etc?

 

[Shayla]

Women cutting all their hair off and carrying on. This world is in turmoil!

girl you're a trip...lol

 

[dreamgurl]

Uh oh...

I know why you said that sshhh!

 

[Blossssom]

I know why you said that sshhh!

Heehee!

I do agree with part of what Shayla said, though, and I've even said as much to my parents.

With all the "hypocrisy" spewing from the pulpit nowadays with our male pastors (coffer raiding/womanizing), who's to say that God isn't calling women to take over?

I try to stick with "The Book", though

 

[JenJen2721]

I've never heard a woman preach before. What's it like?

My dad is dead set against it too...

It's like being in a classroom with a really good teacher. We always take notes and everything.

 

[Honeyhips]

Blossom give it a rest. Where was I fighting. I could have easily pulled out scripture upon scripture that showed wehre women were pastors and taught in the church, right in the bible. I could have pulled up plenty of articles agreeing with me. I did no such thing, I did not argue, I was not being catty. Which is more than what I can say for your post. This one and the "uh oh" are two that I could consider YOU trying to stir the pot, and cause drama. So don't get on your high horse NOW. The ladies have been arguing in here since day one, there have been plenty of threads started with hidden agendas. So lets not act like people haven't argued before.

Now, I don't want people who have been getting along famously to start falling out over this.

We are all entitled to our opinions and if you can't agree, at least agree to disagree.

No fighting

 

[miracle]

my aunt founded her church...she is the pastor...the church has really grown and is now one of the biggest churches in the city...

everyone has their own beliefs, but i don't see anything wrong with women being a pastor, evangelist, etc as long as they're preaching the right things...

there are plenty of men that are church leaders that are fornicating, messing w/ kids, stealing money, and everything else...so just because the pastor is a man doesn't mean that he's one of "the chosen ones"...just something to think about.



also a question...those of you that are not in favor of women pastors, deacons, etc...do you prefer not to listen to juanita bynum, paula white, joyce meyer, etc?

ITA!!!!!!!

 

[JenJen2721]

also a question...those of you that are not in favor of women pastors, deacons, etc...do you prefer not to listen to juanita bynum, paula white, joyce meyer, etc?

I'm in favor of women pastors, but I just wanted to comment that although I'm not a huge fan of Juanita Bynum, her "No More Sheets" sermon touched women in a way that a man would not have been able to do. Also, Joyce Meyer has a way of "teaching" that speaks to women like no man can also, and she acknowledges that it's her husband that's in charge and gives her his blessing to teach as she does.

 

[miracle]

I'm in favor of women pastors, but I just wanted to comment that although I'm not a huge fan of Juanita Bynum, her "No More Sheets" sermon touched women in a way that a man would not have been able to do. Also, Joyce Meyer has a way of "teaching" that speaks to women like no man can also, and she acknowledges that it's her husband that's in charge and gives her his blessing to teach as she does.

ITA with this, too!!!! "No More Sheets" is awesome!!!

 

[Blossssom]

It's like being in a classroom with a really good teacher. We always take notes and everything.

So it's like a lecture then? That's what I thought.

I've always noticed that the "preaching" of a white minister and that of a black minister are like night and day.

I imagined a woman's preaching would be more like a white man's

Real somber... compared to black ministers! LOL!

 

[Blossssom]

Blossom give it a rest. Where was I fighting. I could have easily pulled out scripture upon scripture that showed wehre women were pastors and taught in the church, right in the bible. I could have pulled up plenty of articles agreeing with me. I did no such thing, I did not argue, I was not being catty. Which is more than what I can say for your post. This one and the "uh oh" are two that I could consider YOU trying to stir the pot, and cause drama. So don't get on your high horse NOW. The ladies have been arguing in here since day one, there have been plenty of threads started with hidden agendas. So lets not act like people haven't argued before.

I posted that in general because on other threads, people who were the best of posters turned on each other when they didn't agree.

Your post just happened to be the last post that I read, and I posted the "disclaimer" there.

It wasn't for you personally...

 

[Honeyhips]

I missunderstood. Sorry Blossom!

 

[miracle]

Has anyone besides me noticed that since women have usurped the "authority" of men, that society is in total CHAOS!?

In the game of Chess, each piece has its place. Women have forgotten theirs.

Wow. Just.....wow.

 

[Poohbear]

I totally disagree.

Like ChosenbyGod said... God is not the author of confusion. Women preaching is causing confusion in churches today. Why do you think it's such a big problem??? Please don't tell me how men aren't stepping up to the plate these days, I've heard it all.

 

[Poohbear]

there are plenty of men that are church leaders that are fornicating, messing w/ kids, stealing money, and everything else...so just because the pastor is a man doesn't mean that he's one of "the chosen ones"...just something to think about.

This is true too. But the ladies in favor of only men preaching aren't saying every man can preach. Not all men aren't meant to be pastors/preachers. The man must be called by God... not preach because he wants to or for other motives.

 

[Honeyhips]

Don't put words in my mouth Pooh. How is having a women preaching in church causing confusion? I just disagree w/ how people are interpeting the verses in Timothy. I don't think God intended for those verses to shut women down in the Church.

Like ChosenbyGod said... God is not the author of confusion. Women preaching is causing confusion in churches today. Why do you think it's such a big problem??? Please don't tell me how men aren't stepping up to the plate these days, I've heard it all.

 

[Blossssom]

Like ChosenbyGod said... God is not the author of confusion. Women preaching is causing confusion in churches today. Why do you think it's such a big problem??? Please don't tell me how men aren't stepping up to the plate these days, I've heard it all.

Humpf!

I agree!

 

[Poohbear]

Don't put words in my mouth Pooh. How is having a women preaching in church causing confusion? I just disagree w/ how people are interpeting the verses in Timothy. I don't think God intended for those verses to shut women down in the Church.

Oh okay... but wasn't putting words in your mouth. That was just in case someone else wanted to reply to what I said.

 

[Blossssom]

This is true too. But the ladies in favor of only men preaching aren't saying every man can preach. Not all men aren't meant to be pastors/preachers. The man must be called by God... not preach because he wants to or for other motives.

This is MORE than true!

God, I love you! LOL!

There are a lot of "self-called" ministers out there (ching, ching, ching is usually the #1 motivator). And even if a minister is called by God, that doesn't mean he is Pastor material.

 

[Blossssom]

Oh okay... but wasn't putting words in your mouth. That was just in case someone else wanted to reply to what I said.

What's always weird to me is how people try and TSIWT the Bible. No, the Bible isn't 100% clear, but the scriptures in Timothy are QUITE clear to me.

Women just want the upperhand on men nowadays, and they have lived to regret it. Inside and outside of the church *sniff*

I guess that is why we have so many different denominations. People and their "interpretations". So be it.

I'm waiting for the day when Christians come up with Orthodox and un-Orthodox, like the Jews have.

You'll really be able to distinguish the true Christians from the false then!

 

[Honeyhips]

A woman preaching is NOT the same as having authority over men. It does not mean she has a desire to have the upperhand. The two don't always go together, just like it doesn't make sense that the reason why you need a female preacher is because the men are not doing their jobs.

I'm not interpreting the Timothy and Corinthians scriptures wrong when I say that I don't think they are meant to shut down EVERY woman in the church. Just the ones that had no reverance for God or the church and felt they could dress and act anyway they wanted. He is not addressing the women in ministry who are serving God.

 

[JenJen2721]

So it's like a lecture then? That's what I thought.

I've always noticed that the "preaching" of a white minister and that of a black minister are like night and day.

I imagined a woman's preaching would be more like a white man's

Real somber... compared to black ministers! LOL!

You're funny, Blossom!!! If you ever come to St. Louis, you'll have to stop by...so you can be like, "Wow"!!! That girl is good!!! That's what it's like after listening to my pastor... She doesn't jump up and down and holler and sweat, but she is far from somber.

 

[Blossssom]

You're funny, Blossom!!! If you ever come to St. Louis, you'll have to stop by...so you can be like, "Wow"!!! That girl is good!!! That's what it's like after listening to my pastor... She doesn't jump up and down and holler and sweat, but she is far from somber.

Yea...

Funny because one time my dad had a white minister "preach" at our church, and I couldn't believe the difference.

The white minister just stood there and talked normally. Between me and you (don't tell dad), though, I got more out of his sermon because I wasn't distracted by the "jumping up and down, hollering and sweating"

 

[onepraying]

So it's like a lecture then? That's what I thought.

I've always noticed that the "preaching" of a white minister and that of a black minister are like night and day.

I imagined a woman's preaching would be more like a white man's

Real somber... compared to black ministers! LOL!

Not in the Apostolic church!...

 

[onepraying]

A woman preaching is NOT the same as having authority over men. It does not mean she has a desire to have the upperhand. The two don't always go together, just like it doesn't make sense that the reason why you need a female preacher is because the men are not doing their jobs.

I'm not interpreting the Timothy and Corinthians scriptures wrong when I say that I don't think they are meant to shut down EVERY woman in the church. Just the ones that had no reverance for God or the church and felt they could dress and act anyway they wanted. He is not addressing the women in ministry who are serving God.

Well, let's see....

The man of God is our sheperd; our guide. He is the very mouthpiece of God...agree?

He gets up, declares..."thus saith the Lord" Sets order, rebukes, corrects, reproves....agree?...

This is considered authority......what the Bible clearly says a woman must not do. She can't stand behind the sacred desk and declare these things..it is out of order.

In our local assembly, the ladies teach children's Sunday School, we also teach Bible Studies(sometimes to men) but never behind the sacred desk.

You mentioned in an earlier post that you could pull scripture after scripture of women Pastors and ministers, etc.. Can you take a minute to do that for me?

I have been wanting to study this for a very long time and you ladies have provided me with a slew of info. Thank you soo much

I really like this board!!

Keep posting!

 

[Blossssom]

OnePraying: BEAUTIFUL!

 

[Bublnbrnsuga]

I really think we need to look at what was going on at the time when Paul advised women not to say anything in the church. At THAT time, the women were being disruptive, etc, so it was advised for them to keep their comments/questions to themselves, then ask their husbands questions. God did not forbid a woman to minister. I can't believe that women actually agree with that archaeic teaching.

What's next? You gonna tell me that women should not wear anything that pertains to a man, ie pants? Well, if so, take off your PANTIES, because they are shorter versions of pants,lol. We really need to STUDY the Word,by asking what,why,when, who and how.

Peace!

 

[miracle]

I really think we need to look at what was going on at the time when Paul advised women not to say anything in the church. At THAT time, the women were being disruptive, etc, so it was advised for them to keep their comments/questions to themselves, then ask their husbands questions. God did not forbid a woman to minister. I can't believe that women actually agree with that archaeic teaching.

What's next? You gonna tell me that women should not wear anything that pertains to a man, ie pants? Well, if so, take off your PANTIES, because they are shorter versions of pants,lol. We really need to STUDY the Word,by asking what,why,when, who and how.

Peace!

 

[Honeyhips]

Thank you... That's what I was trying to say.

I really think we need to look at what was going on at the time when Paul advised women not to say anything in the church. At THAT time, the women were being disruptive, etc, so it was advised for them to keep their comments/questions to themselves, then ask their husbands questions. God did not forbid a woman to minister. I can't believe that women actually agree with that archaeic teaching.

What's next? You gonna tell me that women should not wear anything that pertains to a man, ie pants? Well, if so, take off your PANTIES, because they are shorter versions of pants,lol. We really need to STUDY the Word,by asking what,why,when, who and how.

Peace!