LovelyPiratess
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Another example of listening to what a man has to say....if he says he doesn't want a relationship, don't stay hoping he changes his mind. I've seen this scenario played out wayy too many times.
^^^I agree in a sense because I have been there before asking why not me...but here is the thing. It never helped.
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Its true what they say, one man's trash is another man's treasure. Just because it was a problem for him doesn't mean it will be a problem for others.
You have to decide for yourself what you want to change in yourself and not for a man. You have to want to change yourself because you personally know its a problem.
The worst thing is that she still didn't get the truth --- unless he reads his blog.
I think she would have found all the answers she really needed with just a little quiet time and introspection. I'm serious about that, too. Sometimes, we have to think about what we really want, and we have to evaluate if the steps we're taking right now are actually leading us in the direction of our goals, or if we're headed down a dead end street, ignoring the signs.
I think the best type of closure is the one where you can go and find someone who will accept you, flaws and all.
Agreed 100%I think he did. He did owe her truthfulness. If he spent that much time with her such that it was clear that there was something romantic between them, then I feel that it's at the least common courtesy to give a simple, truthful reason why things aren't working out.
I feel like women have been forced to figure out how to maneuver around a lack of honesty in dating. Like, a "you have to outfox the fox" type of mentality. I feel that women definitely should be smart, but still, I don't think it's too much to ask for a man to act like an adult, own his choice, and say why he made it. And not on a blog, for goodness sake! That's just cowardly, imo.
Completly agree with this.My heart cries for jenn. In her defense, perhaps some of u are misconstruing her question for weakness, but in actuality I know very few women who ask the main source for closure instead seek out words from their gfs or random strangers on blogs. Her actions takes gall. Just playing devils advocate. At the end nobody wants to feel undesirable or unfit to be ones gf and had things ended on her terms she, would have the satisfaction of knowing she held control in this situation. I love the gal pal rebuttle its him not you, but its truly a flaw in both parties. there's is something in you or him that doesn't mesh...and whatever this factor is him or you are not able or willing to see past it.
I really like this thread because usually I WANT to be Jenn but I have too much pride to give in. There have been guys that I really liked and when things didn't work out I was baffled and hurt and did feel like "what's wrong with me?" And the urge does come to confront them and find out what happened but this thread shows that what you'd get is likely to be really hollow. It isn't really going to help. Dude is a coward... even after they are done he is still beating around the bush instead of just telling her "you're judgmental and that rubs me the wrong way." It makes me upset that women are often going to go into relationships trying to be desirable and please their partner and the guy has the luxury of being like "yeah I don't like this about you bye" and runs off and never owns up to using her in the meantime.... and the girl is hurt at the end. Meanwhile we have other women side eying each other, telling each other if you can't hang on to a man at any cost then something is really wrong with you.
Damn it all to hell *gif of dude storming off camera and throwing a shirt back into the room*
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cynicaloptimist81 says:
May 9, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Slim (and all other men) need to admit that the reason they dish out statements like “I don’t want a relationship right now” to women is because they know full well that if they said “I don’t want a relationship with you…ever”, they’d no longer be able to have s.ex with her (in most cases)…which is ultimately what they want to do…have s.ex with her when he wants to…the ability to chill with her is just an added bonus.
It’s not about not hurting her feelings. It’s about being able to get what you want out of her without feeling like a complete jerk…since you kinda told her the truth.
Lame. Lame. Lame.
The “Jenn’s” of the world are wrong, yes…and so are YOU.
I broke off contact with my dude for 5 years. We got back in touch and had a similar talk. I didn't get an apology (he's like that) but I did get to vent and get alot of things off my chest.Been there, done that. Don't think closure is overrated though...
A few years ago, I was a "Jenn" too. I thought what I had would lead to a relationship even though he said he wasn't ready. I still think he's my perfect match but as with all good things they must come to an end. He started dealing with someone else (in which I was very hurt) and I didnt talk to him for a year. We ended up speaking a year later and we picked up right where we left off yet. He was still dating her off and on, but when we started talking they were off. He apologized with how everything went down, told me his regret story, and left everything up to me. All I wanted was my apology. I got it and decided to end things that time myself. I don't have any unanswered questions. Im satisfied, content, and I won't be "Jenn" again because I've learned my lesson....at least I hope so.
I like this guyDr. J says:
May 9, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Men give themselves all types of reasons to not be at fault for some things. I’ll be the one to keep it real. Women have endorphins and oxytocins. Once you start having relations, they can’t help but catch feelings unless they got a chemical inbalance. And isn’t that odd, that you would have relations with someone and your body’s reaction to letting someone inside of you releases hormones of affection. After all what can come of a little s*x other than a kid or a life threatening injury?
This my point. I really disagree with a lot of the dudes here today. That’s cool though. For starters you know that women are wired in a way to grow feelings for the man they sleeping with on a regular basis. Men don’t peep it because we sleeping with multiple women, but a woman might only be sleeping with you, or you’re her #1 and those other guys is just to pass the time. Another thing i’m seeing here a lot today is about she never said nothing… don’t give me that BS, people have non-verbal communication too. And you know it, if not then you are reducing yourself to caveman status. Pick your position. Most dudes know that the chick is developing feelings, or they have overwhelming evidence to suggest that she is and they just be n*ggas and don’t do nothing about it. Later they’ll raise a “she’s passive” card. Nah son, keep it trilla.
If NOT, if you are like, nah she wasn’t giving me no signs whatsoever then you should have concluded that something was wrong with her. If you thinking to yourself, “This chick going to let me hit for 7 months and she don’t want nothing” something usually wrong with the chick. That really only works for breezies and women who say they focused on their career and all that means is high class lose women. Don’t try me on this paragraph either because I can go on for days about women who have s*x-only relationships and something wrong with them.
Oh and shenanigans on this story, wasn’t only a physical relationship. Why this chick feel like she can even talk to you this way? You said quality time but only in the bedroom, you didn’t say all we did was have s*x. Y’all probably had small talk here and there or spent what would have been the equivalent of playing WWF for hours with each other. You guys probably had deep conversations about something and that made her start liking the way you think because it obviously couldn’t be because she was like, “I want you to be my boyfriend because you come over here and blow my back out and then leave without even the decency to take off your Jordan 9s.”
I like this guy
I do too. Slim either is a douche or either he's just extremely stupid not to see his part in this. There are plenty of people I know will let me get over because of their feelings for me but I have enough character not to take advantage of someone just because "I can".I like that post too. I like that he didn't suck up to the OP (Slim) He told the truth.
Dr. J says:
May 9, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Men give themselves all types of reasons to not be at fault for some things. I’ll be the one to keep it real. Women have endorphins and oxytocins. Once you start having relations, they can’t help but catch feelings unless they got a chemical inbalance. And isn’t that odd, that you would have relations with someone and your body’s reaction to letting someone inside of you releases hormones of affection. After all what can come of a little s*x other than a kid or a life threatening injury?
This my point. I really disagree with a lot of the dudes here today. That’s cool though. For starters you know that women are wired in a way to grow feelings for the man they sleeping with on a regular basis. Men don’t peep it because we sleeping with multiple women, but a woman might only be sleeping with you, or you’re her #1 and those other guys is just to pass the time. Another thing i’m seeing here a lot today is about she never said nothing… don’t give me that BS, people have non-verbal communication too. And you know it, if not then you are reducing yourself to caveman status. Pick your position. Most dudes know that the chick is developing feelings, or they have overwhelming evidence to suggest that she is and they just be n*ggas and don’t do nothing about it. Later they’ll raise a “she’s passive” card. Nah son, keep it trilla.
If NOT, if you are like, nah she wasn’t giving me no signs whatsoever then you should have concluded that something was wrong with her. If you thinking to yourself, “This chick going to let me hit for 7 months and she don’t want nothing” something usually wrong with the chick. That really only works for breezies and women who say they focused on their career and all that means is high class lose women. Don’t try me on this paragraph either because I can go on for days about women who have s*x-only relationships and something wrong with them.
Oh and shenanigans on this story, wasn’t only a physical relationship. Why this chick feel like she can even talk to you this way? You said quality time but only in the bedroom, you didn’t say all we did was have s*x. Y’all probably had small talk here and there or spent what would have been the equivalent of playing WWF for hours with each other. You guys probably had deep conversations about something and that made her start liking the way you think because it obviously couldn’t be because she was like, “I want you to be my boyfriend because you come over here and blow my back out and then leave without even the decency to take off your Jordan 9s.”
I do too. Slim either is a douche or either he's just extremely stupid not to see his part in this. There are plenty of people I know will let me get over because of their feelings for me but I have enough character not to take advantage of someone just because "I can".
Yeah...Slim is a douche. I know a couple douche bags just like him too.
I like this guy
Just to play devil's advocate: Ladies, when you stop talking to a man, do you give him a reason why? I've read many times where the ladiies here will just stop answer a man's phone calls because of XYZ.
These situations can be avoided if women stop having sexual relations with men who are not making a commitment to them. The modern view of sexuality has really hurt women when it comes to relationships and dating. Most of us are not equipped to have casual sex. We need to value ourselves enough to walk away even when it’s not convenient if the guy we are dating will not step up to the plate. We sell ourselves short and SETTLE by allowing men to classify us as f-buddies. When a man wants to downgrade you to that of a screw buddy that should tell you right then and there he isn’t worth your time and doesn’t value you as the gem. Basically you are a cum dumpster to satisfy his sexual urges without any of the commitment or responsibility. We can talk all day about this issue but each woman needs to determine her own value and conduct herself accordingly.