oh ok my bad!
I apologize to you too, Loved one.
oh ok my bad!
So people in other religions are not judgemental?..ok Im going to need people to stop using that excuse because it is really weak.
LOL yeah that's a lie. humans see with their eyes. that's why we need the Holy Spirit to help us see the way God does.
also, the devil has no problem with you spreading lies. it's when you spread the truth that the claws come out. when you are his, he doesn't mess with you, but when you become God's he comes at you.
LoveisYouHow so Poo? Can we have Christianity without Jesus Christ? or do you mean the perversion of Christianity?
I think that's why it's so important to have a personal relationship with Christ.
Smiley82I'm not understanding how feeling that many Christians are hypocrites translates to not following Christ...
Thank you. I love and appreciate you.
I wish you were around when my children were teens... they said I was mean. ... And....
I was....
I just wasn't having it with the devil trying to take over and rule my babies. Not the fruit of my womb... I stood my ground against the enemy.
Naji, my point is that 'we' as Christians have to take a stand and stand there steadfast.
The world has absolutely NO problem standing for what they believe in;
The devil and his worshipers have abolutely NO problem firing up their spears and arrows and firey darts and defending their causes and kicking the 'embers' and 'ashes' in God's face.
Yet when a 'Christian' takes a stand...no matter how nice, or no matter how gentle and non-judgmental, it's still taken as such and the love so sincerely extended is overlooked.
LoveisYou
Yes, a person can have Christianity without Jesus Christ. Several people are doing it today. They participate or associate with the Christian religion but do not have Jesus Christ or his teachings in their hearts and souls. And I guess you can say it's the perversion of Christianity.
@LoveisYou
Yes, a person can have Christianity without Jesus Christ. Several people are doing it today. They participate or associate with the Christian religion but do not have Jesus Christ or his teachings in their hearts and souls. And I guess you can say it's the perversion of Christianity.
Matthew 7:21-23 [Jesus said,] “Not every one that said to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of My Father which is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? And in Your name have cast out devils? And in Your name done many wonderful works?’ And then will I profess to them, ‘I never knew you: depart from Me, you that work iniquity.’”
I completely agree. And as the scripture above states, and its a scary scripture for sure, not all that do things in the Name of Jesus or talk about being a Christ follower, will enter the kingdom of heaven.
So what makes a difference between the wheat and the chaff? Those who do the will of the Father and those who don't.
It is a lifestyle of that (from the inside out) displays love, joy, peace, faithfulness, LONG suffering, gentleness, kindness...and not just those things that are displayed before people.
It is a life of seeking to please God (not man).
It is a life of constant prayer (how else you gonna talk to your Father and build a relationship?).
It is a life of repentance from sin (those of omission and commission).
It is a life of faith in God ability to save you, restore you, and reward you for diligently seeking him.
It is a life of joy about the love of Jesus Christ that you can not help but TELL OTHERS about it.
It is a life that gives GLORY to God (public and private, but your private worship is a reflection of your level of commitment to Christ).
It is a life that change in yourself is inevitable (you can get hit by a Mack truck and not be changed. How much more of an impact will Jesus have on you? Jesus packs more punch an a thousand Mack trucks for sure).
It is a life that trust God to work all things to good for those that are called and diligently seek him.
It is a life that seeks and desires LIFE from the Word of God.
These and more (but I'll stop here) is the markers of a true Jesus Christ followers. Its a lifestyle. Its an everyday relationship. Its not seeking to correct others (though that comes with the territory), it seeks to bring glory to God.
Smiley82
It doesn't translate to that. People who do not follow Christ, whether they are hypocrites or not, just simply don't want to follow Christ or are not willing to give up their love for sin or sinful lifestyle to follow Christ.
The sad thing is, there are people who claim to be following Christ yet they live sinful lifestyles. That does not go hand in hand. That's hypocrisy, especially when you portray yourself one way and live another way secretly. There are people who condone sin and talk about how Christians are just sinners saved by grace and they excuse their sins over and over without true repentance and remorse. That is what Christianity has turned into with some people and churches (not all).
'Believers' True -- Believers in Christ who are sold out to Jesus. Perfect ... NO, sold out, indeed. No matter what level or stage of growth they are in Jesus, they are 'after God's heart' and desire to please Him, and to get it right no matter how many times they may fall.
And Christians DO indeed fall.
Many have the 'bruises' and scars, even breaks with casts and slings, to prove it. I know that I do and I bruise quite frequently and easily.
Yet, 'we' get up, even when we don't feel like it, we get up; no matter what error or sin, we've been in. 'We' get up. For Jesus is the 'Lifter' of those who love Him. ('The Lifter of our head' -- Psalm 3)
This right here is truth. We seek to please the Father but even the scripture says a JUST man even falls seven times and gets back up. What makes him just? He got back up.
The Greater One lives on the inside of us.
He who is able to keep us from 'falling' will continue to do so until the day of Jesus Christ...
Note: I omitted the scripture references [locations] on purpose. My Bible Study teachers would do this to make us 'look' for it and not just take his / her word for it. The lesson was to 'search' God and not man.
It made me 'study' all the more and to become one who hungers and thirsts for righteousness.
I still search each day ...
@LoveisYou
Yes, a person can have Christianity without Jesus Christ. Several people are doing it today. They participate or associate with the Christian religion but do not have Jesus Christ or his teachings in their hearts and souls. And I guess you can say it's the perversion of Christianity.
Two wolves are within me and they are constantly fighting each other for control. Which one will win out and claim victory on the last day of my life? I hope the good one because I wish to travel through all the places over there in that fifth world. But if I do not realize that I have two wolves inside of me, then I am doomed to miss that fifth world as I will think that I am without fault. To know there is a bad wolf is good.
@health&Hair, I think that people are giving their honest opinion as to why people disdain christians. There are valid, political and social reasons as to why. And I think that G-d uses these mistakes to point out His omniscience, omnipotence and omnipresence.
This right here is truth. We seek to please the Father but even the scripture says a JUST man even falls seven times and gets back up. What makes him just? He got back up. Prov. 24:16
And its soooo funny that I used to date guys that would be like "I'm a Christian" and when I say we shouldnt engage in pre-marital sex because its fornication they say, "Oh I dont see nothing with that. If we adults and we lurveeee each other." Its like...come on dude... Its one thing to do it and know that you are wrong. Its another thing to not acknowldge that what has clearly been stated as wrong is WRONG.
I am like, "Do you have a new translation because my translation dont say that?"
The one that will win, is the one that you feed the most! If you feed the "good" wolf with the Word of God/Bread of Life, he will be strong, ready to conquer anything that the bad wolf is trying to entice him with.
Now mr "bad" wolf, feeds so easy, all you have to do is........do NOTHING. The very nature of our being/flesh desires to live ungodly, engage in things that tantalize the flesh and feels good to us. That's why the Word says we were born in sin and shaped in iniquity, Psalm 51:5.
What is a fifth world? Do you mean Heaven? What are the worlds 1-4? I've never heard of that.
@prettyfaceANB said it wonderfully, it is a DAILY walk, not just a Sunday and (insert your biblestudy day here) thing, but a everyday you wake up, you are putting on Jesus Christ and wearing him every minute of the day. We have clothe ourselves in righetousness.
I am getting such a new revelation on this walk as a believer, and I was just thinking the same thing, so thanks @Qualitee for starting this thread, because there are like @SHImmie said, soooo many threads ripping Christian values to shreds.
We can play on words all we want to, and attempt to justify why we do/think what we do/think (that which goes against the values of our faith), but know, that we each will have to give an account for our actions/lives. There will be a JUDGEMENT day, whether we feel it makes sense to us, whether we feel like it's fair or not, whether we like what we feel or not, whether we like what people have told us about our behavior or not.
Question: When's the last time you heard of a Christian killing a Jew, Muslim, Hindu simply on the fact that they didn't believe what the bible says or turned away from the Christian Faith?
These wolves don't stand a chance with an LHCF sister, because we can spot a 'wig' or a weave from any distance. These very wolves who disguise themselves in sheep's clothing are literally wearing wigs and weaves from the shedded wool of real sheep. They cannot fool anyone who knows Jesus Christ.
So the next time they come up with that "I'm a Christian... 'but' nonsense, pull his wig off or snatch that weave out.
Question: When's the last time you heard of a Christian killing a Jew, Muslim, Hindu simply on the fact that they didn't believe what the bible says or turned away from the Christian Faith?
Shimmie you are on fiya today. He said Stand and having done all to Stand. Stand having your waist girded with truth.They are more like 'little boys' who are looking for girls as toys...
The problem is that it breaks the girl's hearts and their spirits.
My Pastor once shared that unmarried 'Christian men are committing 'spirtual incest' when they have sex with a Christian woman; for they are commiting a sin against their Christian sisters.
There will always be a 'pack of wolves' who enter into the Church to seek the innocent blood of virgins to devour.
These wolves don't stand a chance with an LHCF sister, because we can spot a 'wig' or a weave from any distance. These very wolves who disguise themselves in sheep's clothing are literally wearing wigs and weaves from the shedded wool of real sheep. They cannot fool anyone who knows Jesus Christ.
So the next time they come up with that "I'm a Christian... 'but' nonsense, pull his wig off or snatch that weave out.
Awwwwwwww, I've had too much 'coffee' today. And decaf, nind you -- French Vanilla. My posts have been all over the place in this thread, covering any corner of this subject that I can reach. I'm just pouring out my heart.
I do apologize for offending anyone. I do.
I am a Rose without thorns. :Rose:
I respectfully disagree, Pooh... In the book of Acts, the followers of Christ were called Christians at Antioch.
This still rings true today, despite popular opinion about what a Christian is. That's the beauty of God's Word..it never changes. God creates. The devil perverts.
Wearing an I love Jesus T-shirt won't get me to heaven. Posting in a Christian forum won't get me to heaven. Good works won't do it.
Only knowing Jesus will. I believe that is the goal of many here, despite our differing opinions. I believe we'll all be surprised when we see Truth face to face.
Shimmie you are on fiya today. He said Stand and having done all to Stand. Stand having your waist girded with truth.
I am blessed by the ministry that God has put in you.
How so Poo? Can we have Christianity without Jesus Christ? or do you mean the perversion of Christianity?
I think that's why it's so important to have a personal relationship with Christ.
Laela,I respectfully disagree, Pooh... In the book of Acts, the followers of Christ were called Christians at Antioch. This still rings true today, despite popular opinion about what a Christian is. That's the beauty of God's Word..it never changes. God creates. The devil perverts.
Wearing an I love Jesus T-shirt won't get me to heaven. Posting in a Christian forum won't get me to heaven. Good works won't do it. Only knowing Jesus will. I believe that is the goal of many here, despite our differing opinions. I believe we'll all be surprised when we see Truth face to face.