Why is there so much hate for Jesus Christ and christianity on a whole?

[LoveisYou]

Christianity and Jesus Christ are two separate things...

How so Poo? Can we have Christianity without Jesus Christ? or do you mean the perversion of Christianity?

I think that's why it's so important to have a personal relationship with Christ.

 

[LoveisYou]

I think it's the other way around. Truly.

Jesus represents the 'Truth' and the Truth is what hurts.

I realize that many folks who profess to be Chrisitans have come off as 'offensive' however, these professors' are not necessarily Christians as they profess. They are actually no different than the world.

On the other hand, no matter how loving or kind or giving a 'true' Christian is, as soon as one mentions 'Jesus', all hell and negative attitude breaks loose.

I've noticed this as well, 'non-believers' or fake believers, are fine with Chrisitans just as long as a Christian 'agrees' with another's sin... everything is okay.

However, as soon as a Christian says, gay is not okay, or getting high or cussing or whatever is not okay... folks get offended because they cannot handle the conviction of being aware of their sin; they do not want to give up their sin...

Well.. it's as I said in my opening statement...

I have more to say... but I won't. At least not now.

Very true. Especially because we live in an "anything goes/do you" world.

 

[Nice & Wavy]

Oops...wrong thread!

 

[SmileyNY]

I'm not understanding how feeling that many Christians are hypocrites translates to not following Christ...

 

[SND411]

I'm not understanding how feeling that many Christians are hypocrites translates to not following Christ...

I think people were focused on the people who claim they won't follow Christ JUST because there are people who are hypocrites in his name.

 

[Guitarhero]

I think it's the other way around. Truly.

Jesus represents the 'Truth' and the Truth is what hurts.

I realize that many folks who profess to be Chrisitans have come off as 'offensive' however, these professors' are not necessarily Christians as they profess. They are actually no different than the world.

Although true, not quite the case with many instances. I have to take my own community. They weren't condemned in their practices against us until recently where they issued a formal apology...catholic and protestant. There have been many wrongs committed in the interest of "saving" us.

 

[Guitarhero]

Christianity and Jesus Christ are two separate things...

Especially since Jesus was Jewish.

 

[Guitarhero]

People need to find a tangible excuse to why they are too lazy to follow Christ.

I don't buy the whole "I am not Christian because there are hypocritical Christians out there." For example, many of these same people are proud to be Americans even though this country has done atrocious and destructive things in its name.

Go figure.

1)To kids in boarding schools, ripped from their parents to take out their heritage and culture and to replace it with the White one.
2)To those same kids who were physically and sexually abused by those in authority over them.
3)To those whose friends and family died on those campuses
4)To the parents of those children who themselves became parents and can never erase the hurts
5)To those whose stories are never heard because they are not important enough to anyone but other victims

There are valid reasons for people to never want to follow christianity. Luckily, there are those same people who find Christ and follow Him.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

1)To kids in boarding schools, ripped from their parents to take out their heritage and culture and to replace it with the White one.
2)To those same kids who were physically and sexually abused by those in authority over them.
3)To those whose friends and family died on those campuses
4)To the parents of those children who themselves became parents and can never erase the hurts
5)To those whose stories are never heard because they are not important enough to anyone but other victims

There are valid reasons for people to never want to follow christianity. Luckily, there are those same people who find Christ and follow Him.

I too have experience the pain of being abused by those in authority over me while being Christian. It can rock the core of who you are but like some of the ladies have said, it is about relationship not religion. It is a deep hurt that causes many to stumble but I held on to Christ and He bought healing.

 

[Laela]

That's it right there. Truth cannot be silenced.

Satan desires silence...so the Word won't be heard/seen/understood/believed. That won't happen. God is faithful to those faithful to Him, to accomplish His Work on Earth.

Its like if you speak of Christ and the word, you get all this heat as though you are judging, you are holier than the rest. The word says, how will they know unless we preach.

If we are His followers, we are to follow His commandments. If we allow persection to silence us, Then God will deal with us.

Other religions go around and tell about their faith, that seems to be okay but we Christians get some heat.

There is power in the name of Christ. It will get worse, that is why He told us this beforehand. Jesus spoke the Word and He was accused of blasphemy. So I guess I should expect nothing less.

 

[anartist4u2001]

i've heard and read many people speak badly about Christ. they call him evil. they call him a murderer. they say he committed genocide. they said God has done these things. Jesus is God so they were speakin' about Christ.


they hated Christ, and still do, so they will hate you.

 

[anartist4u2001]

I think it's the other way around. Truly.

Jesus represents the 'Truth' and the Truth is what hurts.

I realize that many folks who profess to be Chrisitans have come off as 'offensive' however, these professors' are not necessarily Christians as they profess. They are actually no different than the world.

On the other hand, no matter how loving or kind or giving a 'true' Christian is, as soon as one mentions 'Jesus', all hell and negative attitude breaks loose.

I've noticed this as well, 'non-believers' or fake believers, are fine with Chrisitans just as long as a Christian 'agrees' with another's sin... everything is okay.

However, as soon as a Christian says, gay is not okay, or getting high or cussing or whatever is not okay... folks get offended because they cannot handle the conviction of being aware of their sin; they do not want to give up their sin...

Well.. it's as I said in my opening statement...

I have more to say... but I won't. At least not now.

I agree!

they want Christians to shut up! Christ told his followers to go and preach the gospel. they even wanted Christ to shut up, but he didn't. called him the devil even! he wanted to finish the work of his Father. he did it until his death.

also, why would Christ come if there are more than one way to get to the Father? his coming would been in vain. there would have been no reason for him to come.

 

[ScorpioBeauty09]

When you proclaim something to be 'the absolute truth' and that anything besides that is wrong, you're going to get a negative reaction. Plain and simple. I'm Catholic, but I'm from an inter-faith family and while most of my family is Christian and serious about it, we consider other religions just as important. My grandfather (a Methodist) said there's no way God would condemn the majority of the world to hell because they're not Christian and I agree with him. From my experience, the most intolerance I've ever encountered has been from Christians even though I am one myself.

As for the hate I've never heard anyone say they hate Jesus, but the condescension many Christians exude, especially towards non-Christians.

 

[LatterGlory]

Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Joh 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other...

 

[sleepflower]

America is by far a Christian nation. I am talking something like three quarters of Americans are Christian. Half the nation is Protestant. Atheists make up 5-9% (depending on how responses are parsed) of the nation. Non-Christian religious folk make up less than 5%. I would reckon most of the people left over consider themselves faithful but wavering or faithful but not part of any specific religion, with only a few saying they really do not know. So are you saying that there is some group of Christians who hate Christ and Christianity? If so, I would like to hear some facts about them. Because otherwise, you are talking about a very small number of people (because not all non-Christians or nonbelievers hate Christianity or religion) who may be pretty vocal, but hardly a blip on the radar.

No one is going John-Galliano-hard against Christians the way people do against Jews. No one is gathering outside Christian centers and yelling about killing them and how horrible they are just for existing the way they do Muslims. If they are, it has to do with something like being black or another type of minority, not being Christian. Are you saying this is not true? And if so, I again request hard facts and figures.

I am honestly confused. I hear a lot of Christians talk about being persecuted and how people hate Jesus and the devil's taken over and such as if it is suddenly impossible to be a Christian and live in peace. How is this possible when the overwhelming majority agrees with you? Give me some facts and figures, because it seems to me this sort of complaining comes out of a very skewed perspective, some falsified information (such as the idea that America is getting less religious, when it is not), and outright lies instead of anything significant.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

No one is going John-Galliano-hard against Christians the way people do against Jews. No one is gathering outside Christian centers and yelling about killing them and how horrible they are just for existing the way they do Muslims.
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This is something my husband and I discuss concerning the Jews. They are some of the most hated people. Even on my husbands job a guy said something concerning the Jews and my husband asked him, why did you say that? He hated the Jews because so many in the world hate them so he just picked that up.

I think it has to do with the promises that God gave the Jewish people but that is just my observation from studying the scriptures and analyzing world events.

 

[SND411]

No one is going John-Galliano-hard against Christians the way people do against Jews. No one is gathering outside Christian centers and yelling about killing them and how horrible they are just for existing the way they do Muslims.
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This is something my husband and I discuss concerning the Jews. They are some of the most hated people. Even on my husbands job a guy said something concerning the Jews and my husband asked him, why did you say that? He hated the Jews because so many in the world hate them so he just picked that up.

I think it has to do with the promises that God gave the Jewish people but that is just my observation from studying the scriptures and analyzing world events.

I always assume if someone is Anti-Semitic, they also hate a whole bunch of other people.

 

[SND411]

When you proclaim something to be 'the absolute truth' and that anything besides that is wrong, you're going to get a negative reaction. Plain and simple. I'm Catholic, but I'm from an inter-faith family and while most of my family is Christian and serious about it, we consider other religions just as important. My grandfather (a Methodist) said there's no way God would condemn the majority of the world to hell because they're not Christian and I agree with him. From my experience, the most intolerance I've ever encountered has been from Christians even though I am one myself.

As for the hate I've never heard anyone say they hate Jesus, but the condescension many Christians exude, especially towards non-Christians.

But many religions believe their way is the sole path.

 

[BlackMasterPiece]

Excellent post sleepflower agreed 1 billion%.


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[SND411]

I do think people have a skewed version of "oppression."

 

[Shimmie]

America is by far a Christian nation. I am talking something like three quarters of Americans are Christian. Half the nation is Protestant. Atheists make up 5-9% (depending on how responses are parsed) of the nation. Non-Christian religious folk make up less than 5%. I would reckon most of the people left over consider themselves faithful but wavering or faithful but not part of any specific religion, with only a few saying they really do not know. So are you saying that there is some group of Christians who hate Christ and Christianity? If so, I would like to hear some facts about them. Because otherwise, you are talking about a very small number of people (because not all non-Christians or nonbelievers hate Christianity or religion) who may be pretty vocal, but hardly a blip on the radar.

No one is going John-Galliano-hard against Christians the way people do against Jews. No one is gathering outside Christian centers and yelling about killing them and how horrible they are just for existing the way they do Muslims. If they are, it has to do with something like being black or another type of minority, not being Christian. Are you saying this is not true? And if so, I again request hard facts and figures.

I am honestly confused. I hear a lot of Christians talk about being persecuted and how people hate Jesus and the devil's taken over and such as if it is suddenly impossible to be a Christian and live in peace. How is this possible when the overwhelming majority agrees with you?

Give me some facts and figures, because it seems to me this sort of complaining comes out of a very skewed perspective, some falsified information (such as the idea that America is getting less religious, when it is not), and outright lies instead of anything significant.

It's obvious you're not a Christian.

This is not said as a disparagment towards you; it's not a personal attack. Just an honest observation; no facts or figures required. :Rose:

 

[Shimmie]

I agree!

they want Christians to shut up! Christ told his followers to go and preach the gospel. they even wanted Christ to shut up, but he didn't. called him the devil even! he wanted to finish the work of his Father. he did it until his death.

also, why would Christ come if there are more than one way to get to the Father? his coming would been in vain. there would have been no reason for him to come.

It just occurred to me that this thread must have originated in the Off Topic forum and was transferred over here. :scratchch:

Hmmmmmmmmm....

Okay....

So now this thread in itself is a platform for an 'attack' upon Christianity and there are literally 100's if not 1000's more in the LHCF forum which are spear-headed against Christians.

One of the biggest attacks is against Administration which is Christ - Centered; the true meaning of Christ is not exploited. The Admiistration, here, follows the Lord, yet when Godly standards are set in place, the attacks come against them left and right. Thread after thread; post after post, the 'attacks' abound ... against 'all' Christians.

The perfect example is the reaction to the rules in the Relationship forum which have lauched one 'attack' after another against the faith and the standards of our Administration for it is based upon Christian standards. Threads upon threads and posts upon posts of 'attacks' have come against the Christian Standard of Living.

Please.... don't get me started. I'll just tell it all.

The bottomline, this thread is indeed an 'afront' against Christians; for in this thread, I see more posts from those who love to take any and every opportunity to 'bash', throw darts, or bricks even -- -- towards Christians and Christianity and are doing so, right now.

My response...

"Bring it on..."

"Jesus Loves You... each of you... anyway." :Rose:

 

[anartist4u2001]

America is by far a Christian nation. I am talking something like three quarters of Americans are Christian. Half the nation is Protestant. Atheists make up 5-9% (depending on how responses are parsed) of the nation. Non-Christian religious folk make up less than 5%. I would reckon most of the people left over consider themselves faithful but wavering or faithful but not part of any specific religion, with only a few saying they really do not know. So are you saying that there is some group of Christians who hate Christ and Christianity? If so, I would like to hear some facts about them. Because otherwise, you are talking about a very small number of people (because not all non-Christians or nonbelievers hate Christianity or religion) who may be pretty vocal, but hardly a blip on the radar.

No one is going John-Galliano-hard against Christians the way people do against Jews. No one is gathering outside Christian centers and yelling about killing them and how horrible they are just for existing the way they do Muslims. If they are, it has to do with something like being black or another type of minority, not being Christian. Are you saying this is not true? And if so, I again request hard facts and figures.

I am honestly confused. I hear a lot of Christians talk about being persecuted and how people hate Jesus and the devil's taken over and such as if it is suddenly impossible to be a Christian and live in peace. How is this possible when the overwhelming majority agrees with you? Give me some facts and figures, because it seems to me this sort of complaining comes out of a very skewed perspective, some falsified information (such as the idea that America is getting less religious, when it is not), and outright lies instead of anything significant.

go to countries that don't allow you to preach the gospel of Christ and see the persecution of Christians. there are missionaries who are based in parts of these countries. they have to hid out. they can't even tell their brothers and sisters where they are. they will be killed if their cover is blown. many Christians are being killed around the world for preaching Christ.

yes, the USA is a Christian country (i'm starting to see a change in this even), but there are many people here who hate Christ and his children.

 

[anartist4u2001]

yeah i'm thinking this thread wasn't made over here.

 

[Shimmie]

I think that it's because many people, whether online or in their real, actual lives, have not heeded the exhortation that Paul gave to Timothy: to watch your life and doctrine closely, and to persevere in them in the hopes of saving self and hearers alike.

It is not enough to believe the right things; one actually has to live the right way. There are people who post about their relationship with God and then turn around and have absolutely no problem calling other women the most base, despicable names. If that's what they're able to do online in the comfort of their own homes, imagine how it is in their actual lives. Amongst many of the reasons that people do not like Christ - that is, aside from the reasons others have already cited, such as resistance to the truth and the simple fact that if people hated Christ, they will hate Christians - is the sad fact that many Christians make a mockery of His teachings through their lives.

Even as a Christian, I find the vast discordance between the beliefs people espouse and their conduct here and in real life to be puzzling, galling, and downright disheartening. I say this not because I'm perfect; I will be the first to admit that I'm not, and I strive every day to lead a life worthy of the calling I've received. But I also made a commitment to myself that I would strive to comport myself online in a manner that brings glory to God. If the extent of your Christianity ends where man can see you, then how weak is your faith!

This is why I do admire Shimmie a great deal. Even on the very rare occasion that I might disagree with her, her posts are full of grace and fundamental decency extended to others.

Thank you. I love and appreciate you.

I wish you were around when my children were teens... they said I was mean. ... And....

I was....

I just wasn't having it with the devil trying to take over and rule my babies. Not the fruit of my womb... I stood my ground against the enemy.

Naji, my point is that 'we' as Christians have to take a stand and stand there steadfast.

The world has absolutely NO problem standing for what they believe in;

The devil and his worshipers have abolutely NO problem firing up their spears and arrows and firey darts and defending their causes and kicking the 'embers' and 'ashes' in God's face.

Yet when a 'Christian' takes a stand...no matter how nice, or no matter how gentle and non-judgmental, it's still taken as such and the love so sincerely extended is overlooked.

 

[Qualitee]

This thread was made in the christian forum. Yes Jews do get chastised but don't most religions? Not all religons are accepted throughout the world. All becuase Jews may be more chastised than chirstians doesn't make it ok,less bearable or should be blown off.

 

[Qualitee]

So people in other religions are not judgemental?..ok Im going to need people to stop using that excuse because it is really weak.

 

[anartist4u2001]

It was made in the christian forum.

oh ok my bad!

 

[anartist4u2001]

So people in other religions are not judgemental?..ok Im going to need people to stop using that excuse because it is really weak.

LOL yeah that's a lie. humans see with their eyes. that's why we need the Holy Spirit to help us see the way God does.


also, the devil has no problem with you spreading lies. it's when you spread the truth that the claws come out. when you are his, he doesn't mess with you, but when you become God's he comes at you.

 

[Shimmie]

This thread was made in the christian forum. Yes Jews do get chastised but don't most religions? Not all religons are accepted throughout the world. All becuase Jews may be more chastised than chirstians doesn't make it ok,less bearable or should be blown off.

Sorry Love...

I was wrong. I just happen to notice the couple of posters who are not Christians that are usually in OT.

But all are welcome :Rose: