Traumatized :/

It seems like some of y'all are blaming the victim. It doesn't matter how she was dressed or if she was "attention-seeking". That guy had no right to put his hands on her.

It's sad, but what happened to her doesn't surprise me at all. I'm afraid of large groups of men because I know firsthand how violent they can be.
 
Curlybeauty it's an HBCU sad to say..

I go to an HBCU too. No excuse IMO.

Granted I go to a school that doesn't entertain the fake thugs you speak of, but the good thing about my school is that we don't have campus police, the city police, police our campus. If campus ain't doing the job u need to feel safe, then maybe you need to move up the chain of command. :nono:
 
I'm sorry to hear that happened to you @chelseatiara. I can see how some of the other ladies might question these things happening at a college campus because it sounds crazy, but I know the atmosphere you're dealing with and I sympathize (also, every Black person in LA seems to claim SU regardless of if they go/went to college or not, so if the security is as lax as you describe--and it is--those could very well have been random nonstudents in there. A lot of folks just hang out on campus). I need to find a clip of Thuggin and Lovin It on youtube and post it. :look:

Stay safe, and I agree with the comments that suggest working out at home. I don't think you should live in fear but some of those DVD's (Billy Blanks for example) can give you a great workout!

ETA: Here's the clip I was talking about for people who are unfamiliar with BR.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z63lJOrRUXY

I saw this a while ago and haven't taken the time to watch it all the way through today bc I should be working :look:, but I'm sure there's plenty of foolishness. This video was NOT shot at Southern University (but like I said, SU is a popular spot for students and nonstudents alike so somebody who lives this lifestyle could make their way to campus, no problem) and does NOT represent the Black people of Louisiana, but there is a certain segment of the population that is ignorant like this and glorifies this lifestyle and I think OP is from a smaller town so, with that being the case, that's probably the reason for the "bodyguards" and the giving the sideeye to the advice about "looking tough." It's great advice, but...some people ignorant!
 
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Do you go out anywhere without your male protection?

I think this stuck out more than anything.

OP Sometimes you can't change people but you can change yourself. I know women who wear the shortest of shorts at a gym in the worse neighborhoods and they are not "protected" nor would something like that ever happen to them. Not that you can ALWAYS control the outcomes of things, but you can try to nip it in the bud beforehand.

First of all, I Would never, never, never, never, never allow my SO impose I need a body guard, including himself. The gesture may be nice and its nice when a man can standup for his women in civil matters (notice I said civil), but I am NOOO baby, nor am I disabled so there's no need to guard someone who is an adult and is fully capable of taking care of herself unless he is her father, uncle, or brother.

Second of all, like someone else mention...why are you upset at your SO? If he had fought at this gym and it escalated you never know what could've happened. I known people who got "shot up" when alone for just looking at someone. Also he would be in a position of being charged with assault --that my dear is bad on your record. Also, my dear that is A CRIMINAL CHARGE that may NOT go away. Be smart.

Thirdly, you seem like a very responsible, educated young women --don't be naiive. If I need body guards to go to my college gym then maybe I need to go to a new college or a different gym. If that doesn't work then...let me tell you, I am 32 yrs old with a slow metabolism and I lost 30 pounds in 4 months without a gym. A gym is not the end all to health and exercise. Try something new.

Goodluck!!!
 
I'm sorry to hear that happened to you @chelseatiara. I can see how some of the other ladies might question these things happening at a college campus because it sounds crazy, but I know the atmosphere you're dealing with and I sympathize (also, every Black person in LA seems to claim SU regardless of if they go/went to college or not, so if the security is as lax as you describe--and it is--those could very well have been random nonstudents in there. A lot of folks just hang out on campus). I need to find a clip of Thuggin and Lovin It on youtube and post it. :look:

Stay safe, and I agree with the comments that suggest working out at home. I don't think you should live in fear but some of those DVD's (Billy Blanks for example) can give you a great workout!

ETA: Here's the clip I was talking about for people who are unfamiliar with BR.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z63lJOrRUXY

I saw this a while ago and haven't taken the time to watch it all the way through today bc I should be working :look:, but I'm sure there's plenty of foolishness. This video was NOT shot at Southern University (but like I said, SU is a popular spot for students and nonstudents alike so somebody who lives this lifestyle could make their way to campus, no problem) and does NOT represent the Black people of Louisiana, but there is a certain segment of the population that is ignorant like this and glorifies this lifestyle and I think OP is from a smaller town so, with that being the case, that's probably the reason for the "bodyguards" and the giving the sideeye to the advice about "looking tough." It's great advice, but...some people ignorant!

Is it that bad? OP if it is that bad then can you switch schools? How far are you from finishing?

At any rate, DO NOT go back to that gym. Get a Zumba CD and workout at home.
 
Is it that bad? OP if it is that bad then can you switch schools? How far are you from finishing?

At any rate, DO NOT go back to that gym. Get a Zumba CD and workout at home.

I don't mean to take away from the fact that SU is full of many hardworking, positive students who graduate and go on to do good things. But the city in general has become a very dangerous place, and the people that make it so are everywhere, even the college campuses in the city, especially SU. As OP said, there has already been a murder and a few robberies in 2011.
 
I dont care what you were doing, that fool had no right. I would be ready to press charges!


This is the whole point. There are post half a mile long about how "i need to grow up" and "stop flirting" and all that but none of that is the point. There is a post half a page long blaming me and their is not a SINGLE mention of what needs to be done about the guy.
 
I think this stuck out more than anything.

OP Sometimes you can't change people but you can change yourself. I know women who wear the shortest of shorts at a gym in the worse neighborhoods and they are not "protected" nor would something like that ever happen to them. Not that you can ALWAYS control the outcomes of things, but you can try to nip it in the bud beforehand.

First of all, I Would never, never, never, never, never allow my SO impose I need a body guard, including himself. The gesture may be nice and its nice when a man can standup for his women in civil matters (notice I said civil), but I am NOOO baby, nor am I disabled so there's no need to guard someone who is an adult and is fully capable of taking care of herself unless he is her father, uncle, or brother.

Second of all, like someone else mention...why are you upset at your SO? If he had fought at this gym and it escalated you never know what could've happened. I known people who got "shot up" when alone for just looking at someone. Also he would be in a position of being charged with assault --that my dear is bad on your record. Also, my dear that is A CRIMINAL CHARGE that may NOT go away. Be smart.

Thirdly, you seem like a very responsible, educated young women --don't be naiive. If I need body guards to go to my college gym then maybe I need to go to a new college or a different gym. If that doesn't work then...let me tell you, I am 32 yrs old with a slow metabolism and I lost 30 pounds in 4 months without a gym. A gym is not the end all to health and exercise. Try something new.

Goodluck!!!

blkbeauty

This is about me and the guy/SO. Not you. Im 19, getting over health issues *i have several screws and plates in my ankle*, and as far as being fulling capable to take care of myself, I am. But if i were alone in the gym with 20 guys i didnt know and this happened you'd be saying why didnt I go with someone. I answered your "second of all" pages ago. Read the thread. Once again not about you and your issues. And once again i already explained my options and what i am going to do.

In the end your entire post is about you and the situation being my fault, and nothing about the guy who assaulted me. As for the pink, good for them but what does that have to do with me? And as for the red, dont patronize me i am fully aware of the law. Where's the part about me being able to charge him for assault? Oh and how was i supposed to nip a stranger attacking me in the bud?
 
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blkbeauty

This is about me and the guy/SO. Not you. Im 19, getting over health issues *i have several screws and plates in my ankle*, and as far as being fulling capable to take care of myself, I am. But if i were alone in the gym with 20 guys i didnt know and this happened you'd be saying why didnt I go with someone. I answered your "second of all" pages ago. Read the thread. Once again not about you and your issues. And once again i already explained my options and what i am going to do.

In the end your entire post is about you and the situation being my fault, and nothing about the guy who assaulted me. As for the pink, good for them but what does that have to do with me? And as for the red, dont patronize me i am fully aware of the law. Where's the part about me being able to charge him for assault? Oh and how was i supposed to nip a stranger attacking me in the bud?

OP, please forgive me. I did not know your area was that bad until another poster mentioned how bad it really is. Can you transfer out of state? Please be safe hon!
 
Look OP, I am the first person to say that women should learn how to defend themselves, and I encourage women to take self-defense classes for the confidence and street savvy it can give them.

That being said, I think that if you NEED to take self defense classes just to attend some college, then I am going to tell you what I would tell my daughter. Get a transfer from this (hood)) college into one that's located in a mostly white town! Truth hurts, but it is what it is.

And I am not going to go back to this thread, in case some of ya'll want to throw tomatoes at me. :look:
 
IMHO, people will not bother you if you don't give them the time a day.
Seems like you were flirting and liked the attention until some guys took it too far.

This sounds so ridiculous. Even if she was flirting, his actions were completely unwarranted.
 
this is an intolerable situation, you need to report this incident to whoever is in charge of the place.
since this is not the first time you have been harassed, it may be better to stop going to that gym ( i know you dont have a car, etc), exercise at home.
 
OP:

Im a former SU student so I KNOW what you're going through. For those who are wondering, YES, it is that bad. Those wack negroes that are in the gym are so rude, disrespectful and make you wish you had other options. But at SU, you really dont. It sucks, but thats what it is. OP, maybe you should invest in some excercise DVDS to do in your room? My homegirl and I started walking the campus,but that didnt last long b/c she quit on me. I have a love/hate relationship with SU.

Oh yeah, complaining to campus PD is a joke!
 
dont be mad at your boyfriend. he is young and if he had done more things couldve gotten really bad. hopefully you can workout in a place you feel safe soon. take care and try to enjoy yoir college life!!
 
SMDH @ all you people that are coming down on OP for something that was NOT her FAULT! I am disgusted, especially with the ones that say that she brought it on herself by "flirting." And to the one that asked what she was wearing, REALLY?!?! Who do you think you are to assume that a woman, who you don't know, in a situation that didn't witness is guilty of something when all she did was be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Stop with the judging and bad advice. You don't know this situation and you don't know men AT ALL. So stop with the lecturing. She doesn't need it.

Number, I am the only person on this thread that say this. It is wrong, but I don't care. Your SO should have stepped up. He let you down big time.

What does it say about black women that let this boyfriend off the hook? No, if he was suppose to be "protecting her" he should be there at her side the whole time. On the treadmill, at the weights, on the bike. I don't care. If he knew how dudes could be at this gym, he should be with you letting negros know; "This my lady. Better step off." BUt he was off somewhere, and doesn't even get involved until it's too late. Something tells me, he needs to man up. Because this fool walked all over him and let his woman get disrespected in public. I spoke to a few guys, and they think the same thing. You never let your lady get punked like that. It's his job to make you feel safe.

You heard of "Tread softly but walk with a big stick." I say walk proudly and with a big dog. Get a German Shepherd. You want some exercise, you will get it. These dogs will fast walk, job, or run and just love it. Most people that have dogs lose the most weight and maintain it, because dogs have a lot of energy and stamina. With a big one, you could go for hours! I walked mine for 10-13 miles on average. (She loved it, and I was in great shape.) Here's an article:

http://www.i-newswire.com/study-reveals-pet-owners-are-among/99604

I say German Shepherd because there are the most protective dogs on earth. So if your feeling afraid in your community this is the dog for you. Their are practically born with the idea that you are their castle and must be protected from people and they especially hate men with sexually thoughts on their minds. The know when your in danger before you do. Black men are scared of dogs. I've walked mine through the most ghetto areas and all hours of the night and NO ONE messed with me. It's hilarious. Men would actually run to the other side of the road when they saw us coming. You'll still have to avoid pitt and rockies, they've been trained to fight. But most people will never mess with a dog. That dog will protect your home when your not in it better than any security system. And he will attack your assaulter faster than you can pull out the mace or gun. This might not be feasible now, because your in school. But a dog is a great addition for anyone. Especially if you want exercise without the harassment. Here's an article on protective dogs (But I wouldn't buy one from here...).

http://www.myk9u.com/breeding.html



I was physically assaulted very young, at 13. Luckily, I have big brothers that "defended" my honor and made me safe and taught me how to protect myself and be independent at the same time. So I learned about this things way too early. The "Don't **** with me" face, is a challenge to a lot of punks who believe that all women are trash. I use it, but I know its limitations. I avoid punks, I have attitude, but know some men will not stop. Sometimes this crap is going to happen to no matter what you do.

If you've never been in this situation, this is not the thread. OP doesn't need some vague advice about assertiveness, accusations, or pressing charges. She actually handled that situation WELL, and I commend her for keeping calm in a traumatic situation. What happened to her was not her fault, and she handled herself the best she could. Instead, just lament on the situation and learn, you are seconds away from some punk pushing up on you. You could go the right place, wear the right things, have the right attitude. Doesn't matter. This could be you. My advice is take some martial arts, it'll help you feel safe but won't protect you from everyone. Get a dog, because their the best defenders. And get some protective weapon, mace, gun, etc, and practice using them because when the time comes you will only have seconds to get it right.


And finally, let me add my disgust of the her college black community protecting the guilty black man from the police AGAIN. SMDH!!!
 
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Let's not ack brand new up in here. :rolleyes: That story did sound a bit far fetched at first. :lol: And the "I need an adult" comment did have me slowly dying inside. I mean, of all things to say... :ohwell:

If it did in fact happen, I really am sorry about that, OP. You definitely need to report it and don't let it go until you talk to someone who can make a difference. :yep:
 
I would have called the police.

ITA. :yep: I have called the police many times and in many different situations when I've felt that I was being threatened in any way. I try to never leave home without my cell phone, because even if I go somewhere with DH you just never know what will happen. If these men are really that bad you've got to step up your level of protection. I don't know if you already do this or not, but bring your phone with you everywhere you go. Don't leave it at home just because you're rolling with your SO or bodyguards. If a guy looks like he's trying to get a bit too friendly don't hesitate to tell him (LOUDLY) that you have a phone and won't hesitate to call the police if you feel unsafe. May sound corny, but I'd rather be corny and safe than "down" and dead. :look:

FYI My post is in no way trying to blame you for what happened. I'm hoping that I can provide some advice that will keep you safe in the future.
 
Please. Forgive me is this has been mentioned in the thread already, but I haven't read it in its entirety yet. But. What are you wearing to the gym? Are you a spandex booty shorts and a sports bra type of girl? Or are you a Victoria's Secret Pink sweat pants and an over sized white tee type of girl?


Where is the no thanks button?
 
OP I am sorry about your ordeal. I am also sorry that you have been made to feel that you have to defend your actions/feelings when you are not at fault in any way. Good luck in resolving this issue.
 
OP,

I am so sorry to hear that this happened to you.

I've only skimmed through this thread and I am already SMH at some of the responses to your ordeal. Thankfully, you can ignore the posters and their comments. I can only imagine what the response would be like in real life if you shared this with people of the same mentality as those blaming you.

You MUST report the incident to the gym management and (if you feel comfortable to do so) you should take it further by reporting to your student union and also to the head of your school. Do whatever you can to get protection from those goons. Contact the police and local government if you feel it is necessary. This guy doesn't deserve a place at university his actions have already brought down the reputation of your Uni.

What happened to you is completely and utterly disgusting. It sounds like harrassment towards women is a problem in the area where you're studying. Normally, I would not recommend transfering because in some cases, this shows the harrasser that they have won. However, this is a matter of life and death (Yes! It's that serious). Do whatever you can to keep yourself safe and protected.

I can understand why you feel upset with your SO. All he can do is talk to the guy because fighting is not the answer. As I said before, you need to get yourself protected. Report it, leave the gym (if you want to) transfer, work hard to get your degree and get out of that area. You should be able to walk anywhere without the need for bodyguards

I wish you all the best.
 
Some of you are on some serious bull ist. This woman comes in here and tells you that she’s been a victim of harassment and the response is to question whether she’s telling the truth, whether she invited it, or why she’s even at the gym in the first place. Really?!?!?!?
Even assuming for argument sake that she was wearing normal physical fitness clothing (ie sports bra and leggings), why can’t she expect to go and work out in peace without having someone physically assault her?
Do some of you not realize that when an assailant targets a victim, it’s not necessarily about what the woman is wearing, or doing, but about the “power” of knowing that he can engage in the conduct and not be held accountable? And everything OP is saying clearly indicates that the school has fostered an environment where that type of behavior is not only tolerated, but the norm. (Note and correct me if I'm wrong, but the school/management’s failure to act may be a violation of Title 9 and if OP were to file a complaint could directly impact the school’s federal funding).

Why in the world should she have to alter her lifestyle and not go to a gym that her student fees are paying for? Why is the solution that she should run outside/jog at a track instead of using a public facility that she’s paying for? And why is ok for other women on this board to ‘correct’ op and or chastise her rather than offering her support for a traumatic experience?

And some of you telling her to change schools- like it’s as easy as transferring buses. If op is using the ‘hood’ school gym because it’s all she can afford, it’s unlikely that she has the extra couple thousand sitting around that it would take to uproot herself to transfer schools. But more importantly, why should she have to? Why is it unrealistic for this woman to expect to be safe, free of harassment in an institution of higher education?!?!?
 
chelseatiara I've been to your campus several times and I must say that I fear for your safety since you've already been assaulted. Those type of guys will not stop at physical assault. They are the type that will participate at sexual assault as well and no one can convince me other wise.

The first time I went to Southern was for a dance camp in the gym when I was 13. They had to kick out several guys for wanting to watch us! We were in middle school! So, I don't doubt or question any of your events in your OP. There are some sick and bold guys roaming that campus and have been for decades.
 
Where is the no thanks button?

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Thank you ladies! I made an appointment for the mental health clinic to help me move past this whole thing..they cant see me until next wednesday because thats how booked they are :(
 
I am pretty familiar with that area too. I'm sorry this happened to you and for the record, it's not your fault no matter what some of these **goes read forum rules** um ladies:look: say. I'm not even going to address the rest of this bullcrap today...
GIFSoup
 
I am pretty familiar with that area too. I'm sorry this happened to you and for the record, it's not your fault no matter what some of these **goes read forum rules** um ladies:look: say. I'm not even going to address the rest of this bullcrap today...
GIFSoup

thank you and i love the gif! im keeping my appt. tomorrow even though i feel much better :yep:
 
So I usually go to the gym with some guy friends and they usually make sure no guys hit on me to the point i feel threatened but the last time i was there a guy was all up on me and kissed my hand. :perplexed Anyhoo my SO said he would come to keep an eye on me while i worked out. Today out of maybe the twenty people there i knew say 5 or 6 guys personally so they would put there arm around to speak or poke me in my side which i am fine with. Well today I was racing one of my friends on a stationary bike and this guy who had hit on me before was working out beside me. Well he says something about my braids (i had in two french braids for the workout) and pulls one of them so hard i fall halfway out the bike. I was so stunned i shouted "I NEED AN ADULT." My SO, who was distracted at the time didnt see what happened and though one of our friends was messing with me. I get really upset and he's like i dont know what happened what do you want me to do. I ignore him at this point because im so upset and he goes into the lobby. The dude comes back and pulls my hair again so i shouted "DONT TOUCH MY BRAIDS". He went into the lobby after that. Apparently SO then told him to leave me alone and that I was his girlfriend. The dude then says I have a cousin that could sh** on yo girlfriend. :nono: After that he left. I felt so hurt and upset about the whole situation i left the gym early. Ive been upset with SO ever since. I dont know how i can look at him the same even though he didnt see what happened and couldn't fight in the gym anyway :(

What kind of gym do you go to that you need bodyguards?
 
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