~*~*The Newly Natural Thread*~*~

[-PYT]

oh yeah, love that stuff. When I twist up for a twistout, I use a spray mix of like KCKT, water, random conditioner, etc and seal with vaseline. Keeps it soft all wk long and they are super defined.

 

[hairsothick]

Qhemets amla and olive heavy cream

How big were your twists? I've found that the no separation method works best on small to medium sized twists. Was your hair damp when you twisted? I think it sets better on damp hair.

 

[Skiggle]

Foxglove pretty hair!

 

[Foxglove]

oh yeah, love that stuff. When I twist up for a twistout, I use a spray mix of like KCKT, water, random conditioner, etc and seal with vaseline. Keeps it soft all wk long and they are super defined.

It's super soft, just doesn't stay defined. Not that I need defined hair, I'd just like to switch up my look every once in a while

How big were your twists? I've found that the no separation method works best on small to medium sized twists. Was your hair damp when you twisted? I think it sets better on damp hair.

They were medium sized. Braids at the roots, twists at the ends. 16 in total. They were on dry hair but I get similar results on wet or damp hair. As soon as I separate the back is done for. The front keeps a little definition

But the back looks like this once I separate

I think I have two different types of 4b

Foxglove pretty hair!

Thank Skiggle!

 

[hairsothick]

Ahhh I see. Have you tried flat twisting?

 

[Skiggle]

Foxglove, do you have fine hair?
That can be the cause of not having defined twist outs,
,maybe you should try a light hold gel.... and the longer you
leave the twist the more defined the look IMO..
hope that helps.

 

[Foxglove]

Ahhh I see. Have you tried flat twisting?

I've been trying to learn but I swear I have two left hands when it comes to flat twisting. I'll keep practicing

Foxglove, do you have fine hair?
That can be the cause of not having defined twist outs,
,maybe you should try a light hold gel.... and the longer you
leave the twist the more defined the look IMO..
hope that helps.

I've used eco, fantasia ic, and kccc in the past but I hated the crunch. I want soft, touchable hair. I did get hold/definition with soft hair with jane carter wrap and roll setting foam but I have to wash my hair every 2 or 3 days when I use it. That's fine when I'm on an elective but I'm on wards this month and don't have time for frequent washing

Here is a set with the setting foam before separating

and after

I didn't like the before without separating (just being honest) which is why I separated the twistout and put it in the puff.
You may be on to something with the fine hair. Ah well, I'm still gonna keep playing around and experimenting with new methods. That's the funnest part

 

[Cheekychica]

Foxglove, have you tried any of the twisting butters like Bee Mine or my beloved Mozeke Mango Cupuacu butter? I find I always get a nice soft hold with either of these, without the crunch or the feeling of being too heavy.

 

[13StepsAhead]

Hey ladies!
I haven't been on here in a while, I'm officially 20 months post and I'm super excited about that. When I finally get a new camera I will do a twist out and post pics. HHG Ladies!

 

[Foxglove]

@Foxglove, have you tried any of the twisting butters like Bee Mine or my beloved Mozeke Mango Cupuacu butter? I find I always get a nice soft hold with either of these, without the crunch or the feeling of being too heavy.

I've only tried shea butter and a KBB butter. I may have to try some other brands like the ones you mentioned

 

[Fab_Nikki]

Ladies,

For those that have tried Hairveda products, please give your reviews, suggestions, etc on their products. Via FB she announced a sale coming up starting March 18th and I am thinking about ordering. I previously tried the Whipped jelly and Vatika Frosting but I believe it was before my BC. I didn't care for them then but I think I might revisit this line.

Thanks in advance *granted that someone answers* lol

 

[Kenny-Ann]

I NEED HELP LADIES!!!

I decided to do a porosity test two days ago. I took a few strands of hair and placed them into a cup of water. Two days later...they are still floating at the top of the cup. So now I know I have low porosity.

Problems:
1) I feel like a duck in the shower trying to get my hair soaked.
2) Even after a deep condition, it feels like my hair isn't really moisterized.
3) Coloring my hair SUCKS. The only thing that works is henna and even that leaves my hair bright orange. When I put the indigo in...that doesn't even get black.

It just doesn't feel moist. I can feel the oils, but it just feels like...oil.

I used the Design Essentials Conditioner that had humectants in it and that seemed to work better. Do any of you ladies have suggestions on some of the products that might help with this?

 

[nestlequik]

I NEED HELP LADIES!!!

I decided to do a porosity test two days ago. I took a few strands of hair and placed them into a cup of water. Two days later...they are still floating at the top of the cup. So now I know I have low porosity.

Problems:
1) I feel like a duck in the shower trying to get my hair soaked.
2) Even after a deep condition, it feels like my hair isn't really moisterized.
3) Coloring my hair SUCKS. The only thing that works is henna and even that leaves my hair bright orange. When I put the indigo in...that doesn't even get black.

It just doesn't feel moist. I can feel the oils, but it just feels like...oil.

I used the Design Essentials Conditioner that had humectants in it and that seemed to work better. Do any of you ladies have suggestions on some of the products that might help with this?

What kind of leave in are you using? What are you using for a moisturizer?

 

[andromeda]

I NEED HELP LADIES!!!

I decided to do a porosity test two days ago. I took a few strands of hair and placed them into a cup of water. Two days later...they are still floating at the top of the cup. So now I know I have low porosity.

Problems:
1) I feel like a duck in the shower trying to get my hair soaked.
2) Even after a deep condition, it feels like my hair isn't really moisterized.
3) Coloring my hair SUCKS. The only thing that works is henna and even that leaves my hair bright orange. When I put the indigo in...that doesn't even get black.

It just doesn't feel moist. I can feel the oils, but it just feels like...oil.

I used the Design Essentials Conditioner that had humectants in it and that seemed to work better. Do any of you ladies have suggestions on some of the products that might help with this?

Kenny-Ann Perhaps a baking soda rinse to aid in "lifting" the cuticle prior to DCing? Also, coconut oil is supposed to be a penetrating oil. Maybe you could prepoo or dc with that using heat?

Here's a thread on the topic of low-porosity.

 

[Zaz]

Foxglove My hair looked the same as yours when I untwisted my dry twistout if I don't use enough product. Maybe if you tried being a tad more heavy handed the definition would stay? I think I have pics from two different events that I'll upload.
p.s I also recommend using Sallys GVP smoothing creme

hairsothick your twistout inspired me to try mini twists but mine look a HAM hopefully the resulting twistout will look better.

 

[hairsothick]

@Foxglove My hair looked the same as yours when I untwisted my dry twistout if I don't use enough product. Maybe if you tried being a tad more heavy handed the definition would stay? I think I have pics from two different events that I'll upload.
p.s I also recommend using Sallys GVP smoothing creme

@hairsothick your twistout inspired me to try mini twists but mine look a HAM hopefully the resulting twistout will look better.

Aww don't say that. How small are they? Pics?

 

[Kenny-Ann]

What kind of leave in are you using? What are you using for a moisturizer?

For a leave-in I use either kckt or giovanni direct. I don't think I use a moisturizer erplexed

 

[Kenny-Ann]

@Kenny-Ann Perhaps a baking soda rinse to aid in "lifting" the cuticle prior to DCing? Also, coconut oil is supposed to be a penetrating oil. Maybe you could prepoo or dc with that using heat?

Here's a thread on the topic of low-porosity.

I was reading somewhere that baking soda wasn't supposed to be good for your hair. Have you tried this before? I saw coconut oil at whole foods the other day and was tempted. Maybe i will grab some. Do you know what I should use after the cuticle is lifted?

 

[andromeda]

I ordered the tangle teezer (finally available on Amazon from a retailer other than Sally's) and received it today. Now I will endeavor to find out if it is the truth or a lie.

I was reading somewhere that baking soda wasn't supposed to be good for your hair. Have you tried this before? I saw coconut oil at whole foods the other day and was tempted. Maybe i will grab some. Do you know what I should use after the cuticle is lifted?

Yes, I've used baking soda to clarify pre-henna and it hasn't done any *noticeable* damage to my hair. I think the last time I used was Feb 2010 - about 10-11 months into my transition. I diluted it in a lot of water (don't remember the exact ratio but it was probably about a teaspoon in 20 oz of water?).

There are conflicting opinions about baking soda, so please be sure to do your own research. Naturalhaven.com is a good source for existing scientific research on baking soda and porosity but even that isn't definitive.

Once you've "lifted" the cuticle, you want to DC. If you're not comfortable with the baking soda, maybe you can just begin with dcing with heat and coconut oil and see if that makes your hair feel more moisturized.

 

[cch24]

This month I will be 29 months post relaxer and 1 YEAR post BC and I finally decided to attempt my first wash and go. In fact this is my first attempt at an "out" style on natural hair. Wow! I cowashed with Aussie Moist, detangled with my wide tooth comb, and smooth HE LTR leave-in on soaking wet hair (actually, the smoothing of the leave-in made the excess water disappear, so my hair is NOT dripping right now, like I thought), and then smoothed the clear eco-styler gel on my hair in small sections. I used a lot of gel. That's what I've seen other people do in their youtube videos, so I decided to follow along. My hair is definitely elongated and defined. Can't wait to see what it looks like in a few hours.

I'll post pics in the morning for sure!

 

[NikkiQ]

I'm contemplating getting a sew-in down the line when it gets closer to my wedding (in September) to make sure I don't truly neglect my hair, but I'm feeling kinda guilty about it. Has anyone gotten an install so soon post BC? If so, how did your hair look after you took it out??

 

[Zaz]

Aww don't say that. How small are they? Pics?

I think my definition of tiny is somewhat skewed, I checked your fotki and mine are huge in comparison

 

[Sequoia]

How big were your twists? I've found that the no separation method works best on small to medium sized twists. Was your hair damp when you twisted? I think it sets better on damp hair.

@Foxglove, the bolded works for me too- smaller twists give me good definition, w/o the hair looking scalpy/thin.
Like this size or even a bit bigger-->**
(It takes me a couple of hours but I get two styles in one)

As long as I use water or a water-based product, seal with coconut oil and leave for a few days, it sets the twistout.

 

[Sequoia]

Kenny-Ann, don't know much about porosity, but how do you DC?

I NEED HELP LADIES!!!

I decided to do a porosity test two days ago. I took a few strands of hair and placed them into a cup of water. Two days later...they are still floating at the top of the cup. So now I know I have low porosity.

Problems:
1) I feel like a duck in the shower trying to get my hair soaked.
2) Even after a deep condition, it feels like my hair isn't really moisterized.
3) Coloring my hair SUCKS. The only thing that works is henna and even that leaves my hair bright orange. When I put the indigo in...that doesn't even get black.

It just doesn't feel moist. I can feel the oils, but it just feels like...oil.

I used the Design Essentials Conditioner that had humectants in it and that seemed to work better. Do any of you ladies have suggestions on some of the products that might help with this?

 

[Zaz]

hairsothick this is what I meant by tiny

 

[EllePixie]

I have mastered the twist out. Not the upkeep though...I'm only on day two and I doubt this will last longer than a few days lol.

 

[nestlequik]

For a leave-in I use either kckt or giovanni direct. I don't think I use a moisturizer erplexed

Sounds like you need to invest in a good moisturizer. I've had success with Qhemet Biologics Burdock Root moisturizer, and Oyin Hair Dew (on dry hair). There's a ton of products out there like Bee Mine and Hairveda, but those 2 are the ones my hair likes the most, and I have thick, porous, 4a hair.

 

[nestlequik]

I have mastered the twist out. Not the upkeep though...I'm only on day two and I doubt this will last longer than a few days lol.

Same for me. Day three and I've either have to put it up in a faux hawk or a puff. My hair gets super frizzy by day three unless I get in the shower and let the steam curl it up but it shrinks at the same time.

 

[Zaz]

Foxglove, I found pictures of twistouts using little product vs being a bit more heavy handed. One creates a fluffly cloud with no definition while the other kept the twist shape, I used the same product (GVP smoothing ultimate styling creme) for both.

&

vs

 

[Kenny-Ann]

@Kenny-Ann, don't know much about porosity, but how do you DC?

I usually DC with ORS Replenishing Pak under a hooded dryer for about 20 minutes. The back and crown of my hair usually feels moist, but around the outer parts it just at the DC. Those are the parts that just have no moisture at all.