I've been trying to learn but I swear I have two left hands when it comes to flat twisting. I'll keep practicing
I've used eco, fantasia ic, and kccc in the past but I hated the crunch. I want soft, touchable hair. I did get hold/definition with soft hair with jane carter wrap and roll setting foam but I have to wash my hair every 2 or 3 days when I use it. That's fine when I'm on an elective but I'm on wards this month and don't have time for frequent washing
Here is a set with the setting foam before separating
and after
I didn't like the before without separating (just being honest) which is why I separated the twistout and put it in the puff.
You may be on to something with the fine hair. Ah well, I'm still gonna keep playing around and experimenting with new methods. That's the funnest part