RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice??

[FlowerHair]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

I don't care what your hair type is water will NOT dry out your hair..water is WET! And excessive shampooing is indeed drying. That goes for everyone. Some things fit into the category of "what works for one may not work for others" but come on..something as simple as that. That's a shame. But people cling to what they've been told..even if it is a bunch of hot dog water. I hope I never run into this "drying water" that they speak of...erplexed

Co-washing didn't work for me, it was very drying.
My hair loves oils and butters more than anything.

I don't think it's the water per se that is drying, it's the coating of conditioner that my hair can't take. Shampooing regularly has been very beneficial to my hair My hair needs to start from scratch every time LOL!

I'm on a low-manipulation regimen so I only detangle once or twice a week. Any more than that and I would see breakage.

 

[glamazon386]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

BASIC. cowashing and detangling. i didn't tell her to make mixtures out of avocado and then mix cat urine and honey and WA LAH! lol

Cowashing and detangling--that's all i recommend. It works for 91% of the ladies on the board.

I understand what you're saying GN but most people outside of this board are going to look at you like cowashing? WTH is that?!? Do what? Wash my hair with only conditioner? Think about how many times you see the same What is a co wash question asked. To most AA women it's not something that we do. We're still stuck in the whole wash your hair every week or every two weeks and don't do anything to it in between.

And everything is not for everybody. I'm natural but cowashing does not work for me. It never did. Neither do those cheapy v05, suave, white rain, etc. conditioners. I also can't detangle/manipulate too much because it gives me more breakage because my hair is fine. But I know that from trial and error. I do think your friend could have at least taken your advice into consideration and at least tried it. Even if it was only once to see if it would work for her.

I will also admit that I'm more likely to take advice from someone whose hair looks similar to mine. But I don't look at just the curl pattern but also the texture, density, etc. Because more than likely what works for them will work for me. My hair is natural but methods that work for many 4bs do not work for me just like methods for 3bs or 2s and so on down the line may not. I don't totally discount other hair type's advice but I do take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Vshanell]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

Being on this bored haven't you noticed commonalities on basic techniques regardless of hair texture?

Exactly. When I first started hair boards years ago I didn't have a care in the world what the person's hair type was. If they had healthy long hair that was what got my attention, nothing to do with texture. To this day I will take advice, product recc's, technique's, etc. from anyone of any texture. I've gotten some of my best moisturizing tips from 4 type naturals so why would I limit myself to one certain texture. I have never understood why people do this. You're missing out on a lot.

I feel the same way you do about people not taking advise. It's one of the reasons I don't post in the hair section as much anymore. I feel like my advise gets passed over for whatever reason. I'm still willing to help anyone who asks me though.

 

[Eisani]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

it sucks i tell ya. thats why i resist giving out my "routine" irl and online cause noone believes me. i only tell if someone asked. 4a and 3c hair can sometimes look closely related but they seem to function differently. this is my routine. co-wash my hair with literally any conditioner, detangle under running water (just using my fingers for a couple seconds), comb through once( again takes mere seconds). slight rinse then leave to airdry, thats it. now these are the questions i get

lady: how did u get u hair so straight? (it was pulled into a ponytail)
me: oh, i brushed it
lady: with what?
me: just a brush... and water
lady: gel?
me: no
lady: did u use a scarf?
me: no i just brushed it back
lady: (glares)


it makes me feel bad cause i know they're expecting this long list of things to do. and i dont have one

i get the same questions for wash an goes and how did i grow out my hair so fast, noone believes that i just wash with conditioner then airdry. or if they do believe me they like to tell me thats cause im mixed. im not.

sigh

Are we talking to the same people? I get that a lot, especially w/my wash n go's be it down or in a ponytail. The whole "did you twist it?", "what do you put it your hair to get it like that?" When I say itjs just air dried w/conditioner left in, I get the face from some folks or the good hair comment. Whatev.

 

[Pandora1975]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

Well someone explain why I can not co-wash? Since I'm 3b/c all of us should be able to use the same methods and get the same results. Since type matters.

Will someone come explain to my hair that it is 3b/c and it should act like it? It does bot listen to me when I try to explain that it can not behave like 4a/b hair and that it should not reject things other 3b/c hair enjoys. I mean who ever heard of such? Hair that does not do what other people think it should do? Hair that does not behave like hair that is the same type?!

As a last ditch effort I think I will send my hair on the Maury show. He gets those teenagers in line, maybe my hair needs boot camp.

Hon, I have learned that this one thing is universal: Everybody needs something different. Could be what you cowashed with, whether everything else was good with your hair (ph, protein). For me, when I say I cowash, I do it with a clarifying condish usually because some of my other products have cones.

When I say type matters, really that is only the starting point, imo. Hair, just like anything else in life, is individual. BTW, if Maury helps, please let me know. My hair's a mess since I started working. Its having to learn to fend for itself more, and its MAD.

 

[Vshanell]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

Co-washing didn't work for me, it was very drying.
My hair loves oils and butters more than anything.

I don't think it's the water per se that is drying, it's the coating of conditioner that my hair can't take. Shampooing regularly has been very beneficial to my hair My hair needs to start from scratch every time LOL!

I'm on a low-manipulation regimen so I only detangle once or twice a week. Any more than that and I would see breakage.

I gotta start from scratch as well. I rarely ever co-wash. It is not moisturizing for me at all.

 

[Kurlee]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

Are we talking to the same people? I get that a lot, especially w/my wash n go's be it down or in a ponytail. The whole "did you twist it?", "what do you put it your hair to get it like that?" When I say itjs just air dried w/conditioner left in, I get the face from some folks or the good hair comment. Whatev.

I get the, ohhhhh so u braided it and let it out? No. You twisted it? No. and then they give me this face .

 

[glamazon386]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

Are we talking to the same people? I get that a lot, especially w/my wash n go's be it down or in a ponytail. The whole "did you twist it?", "what do you put it your hair to get it like that?" When I say itjs just air dried w/conditioner left in, I get the face from some folks or the good hair comment. Whatev.

I get the same question. I remember one day maybe 2 years ago I was on the subway with my twa and this lady flagged me down to compliment my hair and ask was it a twist out. When I told her it wasn't and that it was a wash and go she didn't believe me. And because she said twist out I know she has to be a member of an online hair board or at least have lurked. That's a hair board term. I've even been asked that here on the board. People assume my hair is a twist out and then when they find out they're like . Whatever...

 

[glamazon386]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

Co-washing didn't work for me, it was very drying.
My hair loves oils and butters more than anything.

I don't think it's the water per se that is drying, it's the coating of conditioner that my hair can't take. Shampooing regularly has been very beneficial to my hair My hair needs to start from scratch every time LOL!

I'm on a low-manipulation regimen so I only detangle once or twice a week. Any more than that and I would see breakage.

My hair is like this too. And I have to use shampoo. I prefer non SLS ones but I couldn't do the no poo thing. I just try to stick to low manipulation and protective styles. When I manipulate too much I get breakage and tangly ends which means trimming more often. If I leave it alone, it's smooth sailing. I wash and DC once a week and leave it alone.

 

[NikStarrr]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

Good hair practices are good hair practices for ALL hair types (i.e. low/no heat, deep conditioning, oils, etc.) But I'm a 4a/3c--when it comes to PRODUCT recommendations, I'm probably not going to listen to someone who is a 3b. That's just reality.

 

[Vshanell]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

After reading the responses here I will not waste my time giving out anymore hair advise. Since it seems that so many are closed off I will not pick and choose who to give out advise to....I just don't have the time anymore.

I answer all pm's though.

I thought I was really helping too. After all this time over half of yall weren't even payin attention.

 

[Americka]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

After reading the responses here I will not waste my time giving out anymore hair advise. Since it seems that so many are closed off I will not pick and choose who to give out advise to....I just don't have the time anymore.

I answer all pm's though.

I thought I was really helping too. After all this time over half of yall weren't even payin attention.

I am really sorry to hear that because I enjoy reading your posts. I truly believe there is something to be learned from everyone.

 

[Hairsofab]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

To be honest, I only take people who don't have my hair type advice with a grain of salt. If you are a 3a-3c, you might as well be a 1a-1c giving me advice. Sure some advice might work for all hair types but I'd rather know it worked with someone of my own hair type.

 

[FeelinIt]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

After reading the responses here I will not waste my time giving out anymore hair advise. Since it seems that so many are closed off I will not pick and choose who to give out advise to....I just don't have the time anymore.

I answer all pm's though.

I thought I was really helping too. After all this time over half of yall weren't even payin attention.

I'm not going to lie I wasn't paying attention....but I still like looking at your hair....

 

[silvergirl]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

wow @ this thread. im shutting my mouth from now on











.......

 

[nichole21]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

After reading the responses here I will not waste my time giving out anymore hair advise. Since it seems that so many are closed off I will not pick and choose who to give out advise to....I just don't have the time anymore.

I answer all pm's though.

I thought I was really helping too. After all this time over half of yall weren't even payin attention.

Girl, the feeling is mutual. I'm shocked and feel like I should be tip toeing on the hair boards. Your feelings are very understandable. I just have to say... don't leave or stop posting. You've been around while, I've learned a great deal from your posts!

 

[msa]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

After reading the responses here I will not waste my time giving out anymore hair advise. Since it seems that so many are closed off I will not pick and choose who to give out advise to....I just don't have the time anymore.

I answer all pm's though.

I thought I was really helping too. After all this time over half of yall weren't even payin attention.

What about all the ppl with your hair type that do benefit? Like when you were posting about your wash n go. Obviously that info wasn't helpful to me, but it sure did help a lot of other people.

 

[FeelinIt]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

You guys are giving the people outside of this board wayyyy to much credit on thinking they could think outside of the box when it comes to black hair care. If someone would have told me back in the day, oh just wash your hair with conditioner, I would have looked at them like lobsters were crawling out of their ears.

I think initially for newbies, you have to show them hair textures like theirs and techniques that worked for them. You are trying to break down generations of negative "hair think" and then it's coming from someone who looks like yourself GN. Even basic advice like....wash your hair once a week gets a scowl from people I try to give advice to. YES something that basic and simple gets a negative reaction.

 

[nichole21]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

What about all the ppl with your hair type that do benefit? Like when you were posting about your wash n go. Obviously that info wasn't helpful to me, but it sure did help a lot of other people.

This makes alot of sense. I hope its meaningful for Pocahontas.

I think more than anything... its the tone (or harshness) of some of the posts here. I can with all honestly understand why someone would look to others with the same hairtype. It makes sense.

But when someone is being genuine, trying to be helpful and respond on the board... then you later see posters pronouncing how they don't even read type 3's advice. Its like

 

[CurliDiva]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

I was thinking about this the other day!

I think most directions on hair products and advise from so-called professionals were formulated for convenience (what I think the consumer can handle), tradition (have to say the same as my competition) or to avoid a lawsuit (make it as simple as possible)!

Has any hair companies really “researched” the differences for example of leaving a conditioner on for longer periods of time or do they just work on the “assumption” that the “average” consumer spends “X” amount of time in the shower.

 

[Vshanell]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

Girl, the feeling is mutual. I'm shocked and feel like I should be tip toeing on the hair boards. Your feelings are very understandable. I just have to say... don't leave or stop posting. You've been around while, I've learned a great deal from your posts!

Thanks! I'm not leaving. I still enjoy it here a great deal. I'll just be on other parts of the board and blogging where anyone with my hair type can view and respond if they feel.

What about all the ppl with your hair type that do benefit? Like when you were posting about your wash n go. Obviously that info wasn't helpful to me, but it sure did help a lot of other people.

True.....I'll still post pics and techniques and products that wow me but as far as popping in threads thinking I'm helping not so much. Now I feel like it's wasted time and I'm on my time when I'm on the board (not at work like most....I only wish, lol) and I could be doing other things that are more appreciated.

I also wanted to add that I've been a member of NP for a long time and I learned the most about hair health from members there that (for the majority) did not have my hair type. I lurk the c-napp forum. NP was extremely helpful in my hair's health before I even got to lhcf.

 

[msa]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

Thanks! I'm not leaving. I still enjoy it here a great deal. I'll just be on other parts of the board and blogging where anyone with my hair type can view and respond if they feel.


True.....I'll still post pics and techniques and products that wow me but as far as popping in threads thinking I'm helping not so much. Now I feel like it's wasted time and I'm on my time when I'm on the board (not at work like most....I only wish, lol) and I could be doing other things that are more appreciated.

I also wanted to add that I've been a member of NP for a long time and I learned the most about hair health from members there that (for the majority) did not have my hair type. I lurk the c-napp forum. NP was extremely helpful in my hair's health before I even got to lhcf.

I guess I understand. You have to do what makes sense to you. I know most of the time folks don't listen to most of what I say because I don't have long hair, but I keep posting anyway LOL. As long as it helps one person I'm ok with it.

 

[tocktick]

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What about all the ppl with your hair type that do benefit? Like when you were posting about your wash n go. Obviously that info wasn't helpful to me, but it sure did help a lot of other people.

I agree. Imo, no matter who gives advice, the person reading is going to decide whether they take that advice or leave it. It happens to everybody. Personally, it's not just some type 4s who are less likely to take advice from type 3s. I believe there are some with looser textures not following what a 4a/b says works for her hair too. This doesn't swing one way, imo. That doesn't mean I won't give hair advice out even if I don't know the person's hair type because I still will.

The good thing about LHCF is that there are people with a wide array of hair types who give advice. It's not just type 4s looking for advice in here, unless I'm mistaken. There are many subscribed and non-subscribed lurkers on this board benfitting from the advice given out.

 

[BillsBackerz67]

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This is why I do not give advice and only comment on progress pics or post a thread with my progress. I do have a lot of experience with 4b hair (my sister and cousin who has very dry brittle sandy brown/red hair) but since Im a 3 hair type I keep my mouth shut. I figured that out a long time ago.

 

[Afrobuttafly]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

Co-washing didn't work for me, it was very drying.
My hair loves oils and butters more than anything.

I don't think it's the water per se that is drying, it's the coating of conditioner that my hair can't take. Shampooing regularly has been very beneficial to my hair My hair needs to start from scratch every time LOL!

I'm on a low-manipulation regimen so I only detangle once or twice a week. Any more than that and I would see breakage.

"water dries natural hair out" is what the OP says the person she was trying to give advice to remarked...which is what I was replying to. Regular shampooing is beneficial..excessive pooing as I mentioned b4 can be drying/stripping. Co-washing is one of those things one can try and see if it works for them..if not..dump it. Trial+error=enlightenment within reason of course. Your hair is lovely!

 

[Afrobuttafly]

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I gotta start from scratch as well. I rarely ever co-wash. It is not moisturizing for me at all.

Not for me either. It's just a way to cleanse my hair in between poos to eliminate the stripping effect poo has on my hair, so I don't overpoo. If that makes sense. It's to cleanse in a less harsh way, not to moisturize is what I'm trying to say. Afterwards I still have to add moisture to my hair with...moisturizer. lol

 

[vainღ♥♡jane]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

aww. all you type 3 girls that are butt hurt and wanna stop posting advice, please don't. there is a ton of advice given in this forum, and not all type 4s ignore advice. obviously if we are on this hair board, it is because we are willing to learn new haircare practices. besides, not EVERYONE is ignoring advice. ​

 

[Kurlee]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

aww. all you type 3 girls that are butt hurt and wanna stop posting advice, please don't. there is a ton of advice given in this forum, and not all type 4s ignore advice. obviously if we are on this hair board, it is because we are willing to learn new haircare practices. besides, not EVERYONE is ignoring advice. ​

as long as you have some type of curl in your head (loose or tight), i'm all ears. Some products geared toward those with colour treated hair work very well on my hair too, so I look out for those too.

 

[Ronnieaj]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

After reading the responses here I will not waste my time giving out anymore hair advise. Since it seems that so many are closed off I will not pick and choose who to give out advise to....I just don't have the time anymore.

I answer all pm's though.

I thought I was really helping too. After all this time over half of yall weren't even payin attention.

I just want you to know that you're the reason I initially started exploring Hairveda and Oyin Burnt Sugar Pomade girl!! And my hair ain't not nary one bit like yours! I've also hit up your fotki, just to admire. I've stayed out of this thread, but I've listened to a ton of advice from a ton of people, regardless of hair type.

Originally Posted by msa:

I guess I understand. You have to do what makes sense to you. I know most of the time folks don't listen to most of what I say because I don't have long hair, but I keep posting anyway LOL. As long as it helps one person I'm ok with it.

Umm, didn't actually know you didn't have long hair. I know that we have different hair types, but I love reading your posts. You definitely know your stuff, even if I can't use the same techniques (eg water alone as moisturizer, even with a ton of coconut oil, my hair threatened a coup ). I listen to a lot of what all of you lovely women say, even if I do pay the most attention to other coily 4a's like myself.

 

[anon123]

Re: RANT: Do I have to be Type 4 or Highly Textured for People IRL To Take My Advice?

After reading the responses here I will not waste my time giving out anymore hair advise. Since it seems that so many are closed off I will not pick and choose who to give out advise to....I just don't have the time anymore.

I answer all pm's though.

I thought I was really helping too. After all this time over half of yall weren't even payin attention.

You definitely should not feel like that, especially on the basis of hair type. Notice these 2 threads that we both started about the same brush and notice the response. I have type 4, but people were definitely listening to you.

Mwedzi thread:
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=231391&highlight=

Pokahantas thread:
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=266005&highlight=