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Re: Applying Henna

Good Morning HennaJoy/images/graemlins/wave.gif

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But one thing that should be clear is that henna is not and should not be thought of as a product used to straighten and relax the hair like a perm. Think of your hair behaving as it does now with the curl/kink loosened...detangled...softer...stronger.

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What I meant by saying henna has straightened my hair was no way intended to mean "BONE STRAIGHT". What I intended to convey is that my hairpattern as you've said is looser, much looser as a matter of fact, but not the kind of "bone straight" a relaxer gives the hair. I love voluptuous, thick hair and the henna has provided me with this, along with softer, stronger hair, without the tangles or bulkiness that's inherent with a natural hair texture /images/graemlins/smile.gif

To get a STRAIGHT-HAIR or RELAXED look, wrapping or rollersetting underneath a dryer allows this option if I desire it. I hope everyone understood what I meant when I referred to henna making my hair-texture straight with each use. NOT BONE STRAIGHT, but the curl pattern is loosed to the point that I could part and smooth my hair with my hands instead of using a comb or brush, to put my hair in an updo, french twist, or french roll. Normally, I would have to use a curling iron to smooth the edges for these styles, but henna has made it possible for me to lay the curling iron down.

As you've said, hair type does play a major role in a person defining their hair as straight, and what constitutes straight as they know it. As my hair drys, it waves slighty and is very soft. Another person might say their hair waves were more pronounced, and another may say their hair went simply straight as a board depending on their natural hair texture.

However, I will say when I wash my hair, it goes straight, limp, however, you want to call it when I shampoo. This is what I've been saying all along about what the henna has done for me. To me this is dramatic because pre-henna, my hair never did this.

It's funny that you mentioned beauticians say relaxed hair is essetially "dead hair". For those who use a mild-relaxer or texturizer to "loosen the curl-pattern", how would you define the hair as being? Would you say it's dead, half-dead or just slighty texturized the way henna makes the hair? Thanks. I see we can talk this topic into the ground but I enjoy this conversation... I'm learning and it is very stimulating!
 
Hi HennaJoy!

(It's me..I emailed you just recently...the Aubrey person)

I am glad you joined. Girls she has a lot to offer. And has great powders on her site that I am going to try QUITE soon!

Hada
 
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Hi, /images/graemlins/wave.gif

I'm not a 'henna girl'. I just wanted to welcome you to the board. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Re: Applying Henna

Hi HennaJoy,

I remember that one Indianlady in your forum says that she hennas her hair every Friday. I thought hmmmmm.......
At this point....and I just started this, I henna using the henna once a month and in the second halfof the month, I use Shikakai mixed with amla as the main base with a few spoons of henna for added conditioning. I still treat it as if I were hennaing. Girl, I must try that Lotus powder to and add it to my regimen, it has been a month right now since I have used an actual shampoo. I may use a good herbal creamy conditioner and that's it. Been a while since I have deep conditioned too and my hair is in great shape. Your site was the first site that I have ran across that contained a great deal of information and knowledge also for textured hair.
http://www.everydayhenna.com

Thanks! and Shalom
Hada
 
Leshia you are cracking me up, I have two boys also and I am reading this info...this particular thread has really jumped since yesterday...LOL! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

hada
 
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Just wait 'till everyone wakes up and logs on tommorow/today and sees all this!!!

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Girl you took the words right out of my mouth!

Hennajoy, thank you so much for the information! I'm not trying to relax my hair like a relaxer...just loosen the curl and diminish the frizz. Since I already opened the Hennalucent, I'm gonna use it, but next week I'm gonna try the real deal /images/graemlins/wink.gif and order the lotus powder (I have to look for it).

Ladies, the info posted here is very interesting... I think Valleygirl and Iris are onto something with the use of protein. I've been avoiding protein...and now I think that maybe that's why my hair seems to be 'out of it'(for a lack of better words...) I can't wait to find out what you all learn.

Thank you, thank you sooo much!

This is why I LOVE THIS FORUM!
 
Thank you for this information, Henna Joy. I will look for some 100% henna (or even the Light Mountain Color the Gray Line) &amp; try out on some of my harvested hair to see what the results will be, then go from there.
 
ValleyGirl I hear what you are saying. I would love to relax my hair but years of trial &amp; error have taught me that my baby-fine hair can't take relaxer, even the mild type eventually thins my hair out. What shocked me was that my hair could actually get straight without relaxing or blow-drying, by wet-setting on magnetic rollers &amp; then wrapping, techniques that I never considered until learning about them here on this board.
 
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WOW!!!

I love this thread! Thanks for all the info ladies!

Henna treatments sound awesome. I can't wait to find the right type of henna for my hair!

Thanks again!!! /images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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...and kudos to Iris and Valleygirl for deciphering the mystery of protein! /images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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HennaJoy said:

Repeat applications of henna over time keeps the curl loose and that is one of the benefits that connected to what is said about henna having a detangling effect as well. But this should not be viewed as a sloooooow way to get the hair to act like permed hair. Because that is not what is going to happen.



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I hope Henna doesn't act like a perm or relaxer ever. My goal is not to have naturally straight hair, I am not fighting nature anymore because it comes to often, my goal is to condition my natural hair and keep it healthy. If henna makes it even more manageable in the process then that's a great bonus. Less stress on my hair equals more length that I retain. Although, at 3 ½ inches my hair doesn’t tangle much at all, too short.

I’m preparing myself and hair for when it gets longer so that I’ll know how to care for it. Caring for natural and relaxed hair, IMO is like night and day. One of the biggest factors for me cutting the relaxed hair off early (while I had only 2 inches of natural hair) was to learn how to deal with natural hair while short, had I waited until I had 8 inches of natural hair before I fully transition, I would have been in trouble and would have needed to relax immediately as I am not used to thick curly hair, I am more familiar with straight hair that's much thinner (I’m speaking for me only, no one else). I’ll be a pro by the time my hair gets long.

Sort of like fake nails. You go from short nails one day to long nails the next, you have problems because you aren’t used to long nails but immediately you’ve got them. However, if you let your natural nails grow over time, by the time that they are long you don’t even notice them.
 
Re: Paging the Hennaphilic Gals...HENNA JOY

Thanks HennaJoy for spelling everything out for all of the henna newbies here. And I thought I was on my way to becoming an expert! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

My credit card is talking to me again. "Try the lotus powder... Try the lotus powder..." /images/graemlins/poke.gif

The Hennalucent results have far exceeded my expectations. But if the lotus powder is better... /images/graemlins/scratchchin.gif

One more question: Would the Light Mountain Natural Hair Color &amp; Conditioner in neutral be considered natural henna or a product with henna like Hennalucent? I am transitioning to natural hair and still have relaxed ends. Would the LM product be safe for my hair? (I'm only interested in the conditioing/detangling/decreased bulk effects of henna.)

Light Mountain Info
 
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Hi Hada,

Good to talk to you where ever we may meet!

Yes..she is in Canada so it is not the heat and humidity that has the frequency as necessary for her as it might in India. That is her routine. I believe that she is the same person who rubs patchouli in her hair afterwards. I would also suspect the use of neem oil and a number of other things somewhere in here daily, weekly monthly routine. There are a few things that you can pretty much expect in the hair (and skin) routine of many women from India: henna...indigo...black walnut hull powder...neem oil...neem powder...sandalwood..amla...shikakai...

Add a handful of other things to this list and you would have a pretty good portion of my list of must haves for skin and hair.

I love your in between henna application hair treatment. Isn't that a really nice side benefit to the henna application and the amla/shikakai/lotus powder/neem etc. sort of hair treatments...leaves the hair clean as any soapy shampoo that I have ever used without any trace of a film.

You can actually add some Lotus Powder to your amla/shikakai...that is a pretty powerful trio.

And thanks for the kind words about my website. I appreciate that.

HennaJoy
 
Re: Paging the Hennaphilic Gals...HENNA JOY

Hi Sassygirl,

We are on our way to discovering all of the possibilites of this little herb!!!

I truly have a belief that if something is working for you then keep working with it if you can. And it sounds like Hennalucent if working for you. I think the Hennalucent and Lotus Powder are different and I wouldn't view it as a "better" or "worse" choice. Like the lotus powder is better if you are looking for something that you know is totally natural. The Hennalucent is best if you are looking for something that is quicker and easier to apply. I love choices.

Now Light Mountain is a really interesting product that I get a lot of feedback concerning. Here is basically the primary complaint I have heard about Light Mountain. The color that is part of the second application only lasts for a couple of weeks. Even people who have used the red and bright red have had the color fade out. Henna does not fade out that way. And this is said to fade out really fast. This is particularly problematic for people using it to cover the grey or color their hair. That fade out has always raised a red flag for me. That would be really aborrant behavior for henna.

I really can't speak to the neutral henna they are offering. Mostly people providing me feedback and trying to get information were dissatisfied with the color. No one said that they were dissatisfied with the conditioning properties. It might be a good question you will want to ask them. What specifically is their "neutral" henna? Is it lawsonia inermis, lawsonia amla, myrobalan? They should be able to tell you.
 
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Good Morning/Afternoon Iris,

See...the word thing is funny. I don't know if I would call hair that is henna'd "texturized" in that context. But given how I interpret what they were saying, they would describe henna's hair that had not been chemically processed in anyway as healthy and alive.

HennaJoy
 
Re: Paging the Hennaphilic Gals...HENNA JOY

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The Hennalucent results have far exceeded my expectations. But if the lotus powder is better...

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I'm feeling what Sassygirl has said BIGTIME! If I find out the hennalucent only has a portion or small percentage of henna in it, AND if it was able to perform as great as it has been performing, then goodness only knows what 100% HENNA will do for the hair!

Thanks SVT and Sweetcocoa for the encouragement about the protein. I really do believe the key or one of the "keys" to a straighter hairtexture is found in the protein molecule /images/graemlins/smile.gif

HennaJoy I can't thank you enough for your participation on the henna thread. You have added a new dimension to how everyone looks at henna. I believe you've won some new converts too /images/graemlins/wink.gif I sent you a PM(private message). The letter icon blinking in the upper-left hand corner of the screen signifies someone has PM'd you. Since you are new and in case you don't know this is what you would do to access your PM's:

Simply click on "My Home". This is located above the Who's Online Visible Members portion of the board at the top of the screen. Once there, go to "Message Box" and click on "Receive Message" to see who has PM'd you. To send a PM, just click on "Send PM".
 
Re: Paging the Hennaphilic Gals...HENNA JOY

I don't know if there are any women besides me who have naturally reddish hair. But if you are reading this, it might be better to for you to invest the "broken down" henna that HennaJoy was talking about.

I made a huge mistake of using "good" Henna and I came out looking like Lucy Ricardo! It was so embarrassing. I took one look at my head and wanted to have a good cry. I was glad this happened on a weekend so that I could use some of my Indian products to darken my hair. If you want more red tones in your hair, then by all means go for it. But Rainbow Research Neutral Henna is a great henna product if you don't want any colors at all. If you're like me and want the benefits of pure henna without the red, then get yourself a jar.
 
Re: Paging the Hennaphilic Gals...HENNA JOY

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I'm feeling what Sassygirl has said BIGTIME! If I find out the hennalucent only has a portion or small percentage of henna in it, AND if it was able to perform as great as it has been performing, then goodness only knows what 100% HENNA will do for the hair!

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I ordered the lotus powder today. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif I have two boxes of neutral Hennalucent left and I'm going to use them this week and next. I'm going to use the lotus powder as my monthly henna treatment. I'm also going to start using a mild, non-stiffening protein conditioner after every shampoo. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I love this board!
 
welcome HennaJoy, and thanks for all the great information! i don't plan to use henna anytime soon, but it's good to be completely educated on subjects. and you took us to school with this one, girl!!
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adrienne
 
Re: Paging the Hennaphilic Gals...HENNA JOY

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I sent you a PM(private message). The letter icon blinking in the upper-left hand corner of the screen signifies someone has PM'd you. Since you are new and in case you don't know this is what you would do to access your PM's:

Simply click on "My Home". This is located above the Who's Online Visible Members portion of the board at the top of the screen. Once there, go to "Message Box" and click on "Receive Message" to see who has PM'd you. To send a PM, just click on "Send PM".


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Just an FYI: Clicking on the blinking letter icon can take you straight to the PM mailbox without any additional steps. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Re: Paging the Hennaphilic Gals...HENNA JOY

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sassygirl125 said:
I ordered the lotus powder today. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif I have two boxes of neutral Hennalucent left and I'm going to use them this week and next. I'm going to use the lotus powder as my monthly henna treatment. I'm also going to start using a mild, non-stiffening protein conditioner after every shampoo. /images/graemlins/grin.gif


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Sassygirl, let me know how you like the lotus powder...oh, and where did you get it from? Thanks!
I currently have the Hennelucent in my hair(since I already had it and I figure it can't hurt anything). I want the get the Rainbow Research Neutral Henna...unless the lotus powder will give me the same results. I'll wait and see how you like it.
 
Re: Paging the Hennaphilic Gals...HENNA JOY

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Just an FYI: Clicking on the blinking letter icon can take you straight to the PM mailbox without any additional steps.

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I didn't know this. Thanks CurlyCrly /images/graemlins/up.gif

SassyGirl I'm with you, I LOVE THIS HAIRBOARD!

BrightEyes, I only plan on using the Neutral Henna. Thanks for the endorsement of Rainbow henna. Some of the other women use this brand also /images/graemlins/smile.gif I'm going to try the henna with the indigo since I absolutely love jet-black, blue-black, or black hair with a deep purple tint. The deep purple tint is absolutely GORGEOUS! I saw photos of this color on someone and it looked so beautiful!

HennaJoy what colors would someone mix to get a deep purple tint? The hair is still black, but in the sun the dark purple highlights comes through. I know Adore sells a color called "Purple Rage" and Revlon's Texture and Tones sells a purple color called "Amethyst", but I would like to experiment using the henna shades. I'm trying to duplicate the deep-purple color you see in the LOGO of this forum. The LOGO is at the top of the screen and says "Helping Women of Color Achieve Long Hair" Thanks.
 
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Personal Things To Consider Re: Results: LONG POST; I believe that different hair types may have different results. But I think all hair types can benefit. I have posted my hair type etc. and hope that others will do the same so that we can guage what somepossible results of using henna may be for different individuals. I will go first. /images/graemlins/cool.gif
Hair type and shrinkage: I have what is labeled 3b baby fine curly hair that happens to be naturally flyaway. Add to that, I also have some areas that are a 3c. back of crown of hair. The roots of my hair grow in straight for about 1 inch and then starts to do their thing! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif. I have hair that shrinks to about 3/4 of it's length when washed and dried. When I add conditioner, it lengthens out under the water. Like true curly hair, it straightens out under the flow of water and gradually reverts. If I do not manipulate it in any way and do not towel dry, only squeeze out the water, it forms into curls that are like tiny ringlets (a bit frizzy) all over my head. My hair that is touching the top of the bra strap at back when stretched out full length, is at my shoulders when washed and unmanipulated, (no combing, oil, conditioner etc.)Once I have done a combout, added my oils and wrapped it and dried it whether with the hard bonnet dryer wrapped in a silk scarf or overnight, it will fall loose and long just as if I had a relaxer. It is straight from root to tip. With or without adding oil, it is the same. This is what my hair does. HOW HAS HENNA MADE A DIFFERENCE? It has loosened my hair so that when it is washed, it hangs in longer, sharply defined waves, but the bulk and thickness is better than when it did not have the henna. It would be an excellent wash and wear style. It is easier to comb through. It dries quicker. When I do a wrap style on it right after washing, it hangs straighter, because it now has more weight. (Remember that babyfine flyaway hair is cottony, and does not have weight until it reaches pretty long lengths, which I do not feel I have achieved to this point. The henna gives me that weight and an added bonus. My hair stays like this between washes; if it starts to get dry or tangly, I just add a touch of oil (olive, jojoba or hemp, coconut, emu etc, to sections, and press over the section with the palms of my hands and presto, straight again. SO WHAT HAS CHANGED? I do not have to comb through daily or brush, or wrap every night, or braid, etc. to maintain this and so in the end, less manipulation. I can actually go one week without combing or brushing and maintain the straight look, as long as I wrap it up at night, and oil the ends as needed. (Apply the barest minimum of oils or creams.) My hair has more fullness, bounce and life. I can brush or comb through from top to bottom, starting from the bottom of course!!! WHAT ABOUT MOISTURE? If I decide that I want to moisturize it, BUT KEEP IT STRAIGHT, I just add a few drops of water to the palm of my hands, and run it over sectioned parts of my hair, USE ONLY a teeeny weeny touch of oil and wrap set it in a variety of ways and tie with a silk scarf. IMPORTANT STYLING BONUS. If I want to do a deep moisturizing WITHOUT LOSING THE STRAIGHT LOOK, I place several plastic caps on top of the silk scarf for one or two hours to steam the hair, sometimes over night. This will create a steamer effect naturally. The next day, I remove the caps, but not the silk scarf. I add a second scarf (satin) and leave them both on for about an hour. Remove the satin scarf and make sure that the silk scarf is completely dry. Then check underneath to make sure my hair is completely dry. This causes the hair to look like you just had a relaxer that day! Also you have moisturized your hair to the max. If you have not over oiled the hair, your hair will not be oily and greasy, but super hydrated and full of volume! The moisture will bring all the oils up from the scalp and to the length of the hair, so I personally would not add more oil if you have recently oiled your scalp. I would recommend doing this once every two weeks in order to insure that your hair's moisture levels are not compromised! This is an excellent tip for when you are travelling as it keeps the hair fresh looking, especially if you add just a touch of lime, or grapefruit or rose essential oil, etc. to the drop of oil before you do the deep silk scarf moisturizer treatment. Just think, if you use the salon see through baggie plastic caps, the silk scarf and wrap your hair in an elegant tie up style, no one but you will know you are in the middle of a fantastic beauty treatment for your hair ON THE GO! And if you have a special event coming up, all you have to do is unwrap your beautiful hair and you will look like you just stepped out of the salon, with swinging hair!!! /images/graemlins/laugh.gifHope this helps someone. Sorry for the long post!
 
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My hair reacts alot like yours...it's fine and soft(it can be broken easily if not handled gently). It's completely straight when soak and wet but curls up in tiny spiral curls(with some frizz) as it dries and if I use no product. I get a lot of shrinkage(my hair is shoulder blade length when wet...but shrinks up to below chin length when dry). If I use a product and twist my hair in fat coils I get less shrinkage...but I'd like to be able to wash and go with minimum shrinkage...which is what I'm hoping the henna will do.
 
Re: Paging the Hennaphilic Gals...HENNA JOY

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Sassygirl, let me know how you like the lotus powder...oh, and where did you get it from? Thanks!


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I ordered the Lotus Powder Plus from HennaJoy's site everydayhenna.com It's in the "EveryDay Mehndi Herbal Products for Health and Beauty" section. I'll let you know how it works.
 
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Here is the link to this forum that was discussing protein(amino acids) and msm and how it changes hair texture.

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=Women&amp;Number=46218&amp;Forum=Women&amp;Words=brighteyes&amp;Match=Entire%20Phrase&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;Old=allposts&amp;Main=46195&amp;Search=true#Post46218

Guys I'm looking into Amino Acids, EFA's(Essential Fatty Acids) and Silica to unmask the hairtexture question. I'm also researching what different races have in their genetic makeup regarding hair, in sufficient or insuffient amounts that make their hairtexture the way it is. Also, how the follicles are shaped and/or structured and how this plays a role in hair texture as well.

I'm not trying to change the structure of black hair in case anyone is wondering. I don't think anyone can improve upon what God has given us, as long as we eat right. And if we eat right and take in nutrients in the correct dosage, I know we all will be delightfully surprised at how our skin and hair will respond /images/graemlins/smile.gif Statements such as "I never knew my hair could be this soft, strong, healthy, etc.", is exactly what it was intended to be as long as we continue taking care of ourselves healthwise.

For me doing research regarding what supplements would help anyone garner optimal results in terms of strength, less breakage, more elasticity and a faster growth rate would benefit everyone who is looking to achieve the best hair possible.
 
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[Guys I'm looking into Amino Acids, EFA's(Essential Fatty Acids) and Silica to unmask the hairtexture question. I'm also researching what different races have in their genetic makeup regarding hair, in sufficient or insuffient amounts that make their hairtexture the way it is. Also, how the follicles are shaped and/or structured and how this plays a role in hair texture as well.

I'm not trying to change the structure of black hair in case anyone is wondering. I don't think anyone can improve upon what God has given us, as long as we eat right. And if we eat right and take in nutrients in the correct dosage, I know we all will be delightfully surprised at how our skin and hair will respond /images/graemlins/smile.gif Statements such as "I never knew my hair could be this soft, strong, healthy, etc.", is exactly what it was intended to be as long as we continue taking care of ourselves healthwise.

For me doing research regarding what supplements would help anyone garner optimal results in terms of strength, less breakage, more elasticity and a faster growth rate would benefit everyone who is looking to achieve the best hair possible.

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Iris, your research sounds cool. I hope you will provide the results once you are finished.

Also, I agree with you about having the hair nature intended you to have. Many times it's not "us" that is the problem, it is what we are/are not doing to our bodies.
 
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iris said:
Here is the link to this forum that was discussing protein(amino acids) and msm and how it changes hair texture.

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=Women&amp;Number=46218&amp;Forum=Women&amp;Words=brighteyes&amp;Match=Entire%20Phrase&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;Old=allposts&amp;Main=46195&amp;Search=true#Post46218

Guys I'm looking into Amino Acids, EFA's(Essential Fatty Acids) and Silica to unmask the hairtexture question. I'm also researching what different races have in their genetic makeup regarding hair, in sufficient or insuffient amounts that make their hairtexture the way it is. Also, how the follicles are shaped and/or structured and how this plays a role in hair texture as well.

I'm not trying to change the structure of black hair in case anyone is wondering. I don't think anyone can improve upon what God has given us, as long as we eat right. And if we eat right and take in nutrients in the correct dosage, I know we all will be delightfully surprised at how our skin and hair will respond /images/graemlins/smile.gif Statements such as "I never knew my hair could be this soft, strong, healthy, etc.", is exactly what it was intended to be as long as we continue taking care of ourselves healthwise.

For me doing research regarding what supplements would help anyone garner optimal results in terms of strength, less breakage, more elasticity and a faster growth rate would benefit everyone who is looking to achieve the best hair possible.

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Perhaps a new topic can be started to discuss this. I read somewhere on here that cysteine is converted to sulfur by the body. If this is the case, does one even need to take MSM?

Edited to add link: http://www.gsdl.com/news/nmnewsletter/issue2-1/index4.html

This is a small article regarding sulfur and hair.
 
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Perhaps a new topic can be started to discuss this. I read somewhere on here that cysteine is converted to sulfur by the body. If this is the case, does one even need to take MSM?

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That's a great question CurlyCrly /images/graemlins/smile.gif MSM is sulphur period. Cysteine is an amino acid that converts into MSM. The percentage of Cysteine conversion is dependent on how much of this supplement you consume. I think nature, excuse me, God has supplied us with an abundance of nutrients in a variety of ways. For example, if we can't get plain MSM(sulphur), Cysteine will convert to it. To answer your question on whether we need to continue taking MSM, the higher doses of msm does wonders for me, and I dont know how much in terms of milligrams(mg) the cysteine would convert into sulphur in the body. Based on this fact, I believe we all should continue taking the MSM supplement since we would know EXACTLY how much we are consuming if we took the product straight. Again, while the Cysteine is great, I don't know the amount of sulphur it would produce in the body and I require alot! Also, thanks for the link as it will help me on my journey /images/graemlins/smile.gif

BrightEyes did I thank you for posting the above link? If not, girl thank you, thank you, thank you for providing us with that wealth of information. It too was one of the main reasons why I'm looking into the benefit of the msm or sulphur supplement /images/graemlins/smile.gif

*Please Note* I'm going to copy all this information because this forum is skyrocketing! Beverly had to change software before to accomodate the forum's growth and we lost information. If she should happen to change software again and all this info can't be saved for whatever reason, I'll be pretty upset. As a matter of fact I think I will PM her and find out is this software accomodating the growth that this forum is currently experiencing or does she plan on changing again /images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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