Heat Training Support Thread
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Good to know. I've always wondered whether protein was okay on "dirty" hair i.e not freshly washed hair.
Napp
Ms. Nobody
apex is a pressing oil aka grease,. the ingredients are petroleum,lanolin and fragrance. so far i havent used anything that gives me swingable pin straight hair i can wear down other than that.
i am currently trying out nioxin thermal bliss. so far its ok but i wont be able to wear my hair down this go around. i am going to try and work with it because reneice uses it and her clients hair is the bomb.com
i dont know if all protein is "ok" but duo tex is kind of interesting. i feel like it cleanses the hair too which is why i apply it this way. when i do it on dirty hair my hair feels clean after i rinse it out. i also never feel the need to follow up with a moisturizing dc.i lubs me some duo tex
Myjourney2009
Ready to be APL
Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll
Well-Known Member
Crisco shortening makes a great pressing oil! I am so impressed, it is my mainstay. I will consider Nioxin Thermal BLiss as a heat protectant, thanks, Napp.
Myjourney2009
Ready to be APL
Napp
Thank you so much for this. Does it make your hair hard?
I looked at APEX last week. I am going to puck some up when I press my DD's hair to try more styles that require sleeker hair. She is my guinea pig. The reason the hair stays straight with this grease is because of the lanolin
I just heat trained my NG in the back I will know by this evening if I need to touch it up or if the amount of passes I did were sufficient.
Thank you so much for this. Does it make your hair hard?
I looked at APEX last week. I am going to puck some up when I press my DD's hair to try more styles that require sleeker hair. She is my guinea pig. The reason the hair stays straight with this grease is because of the lanolin
I just heat trained my NG in the back I will know by this evening if I need to touch it up or if the amount of passes I did were sufficient.
Myjourney2009
Ready to be APL
Here is Brittany's updated wet thermalaxed hair video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP5iNJzHhYA&feature=feedu
I said in a previous post that I wanted more texture than she has, that was when she still had some BKT'd ends. Now that they are gone her hair looks like it went from a 3a to a 3b. This is the texture I am aiming for now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP5iNJzHhYA&feature=feedu
I said in a previous post that I wanted more texture than she has, that was when she still had some BKT'd ends. Now that they are gone her hair looks like it went from a 3a to a 3b. This is the texture I am aiming for now.
Napp
Ms. Nobody
i never had hard hair with duotex except the time where i blowdryed it in like an aphogee treatment. when i rinse it out my hair seems smooth, silky and really strong and durable. not hard or dry like with aphogee. my hair likes protein too...
here is an old thread for some good readin'
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=97679&highlight=duotex+relaxer
also when you use the pressing oil make sure you use it lightly. you only need a TINY amount per section.
Napp
Ms. Nobody
if any one is interested i took some very detailed notes of my current press. i cant help that i am so anal! remember i am still learning as i go...i am not some guru or know it all. i try something,take notes and adjust my regimen accordingly.
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/blog.php?b=24071
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/blog.php?b=24071
itsallaboutattitude
Cancer Support in Health
@Bella - I am in Hotlanta and I do regular steam treatments. There is a sticky on how to do at home steam treatments. I find this helps with reversion. I am on week two of my last press out AND I have not changed how hot my showers are. Note: I don't do not press my own hair. I go to a professional every 4 to 6 weeks and I can keep my press for 3 weeks.
My texture is kinky/curly Edited to add pics of my hair natural and flat ironed.
My curly 'fro Sep 2010 and my press out from Feb 18, 2011
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MsSonya
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I am glad I found this thread. I have been struggling with a regimen for a year now.Going completely natural equals major breakage for me. 
Getting a relaxer causes me grief and anxiety issues, so thats out. I think my last relaxer was June'10.
Anywho, so for the last three months I have been getting my hair pressed every 3wks. My stylist 'warned'
me that I had better not do anything to my hair for 3 wks. Well, she scared me the first month.(ok first two months
)
I thought the natural curlys were going to take over and destroy my life. I love daily cowashing too much, so I am back to cowashing and my hair is quite managable, I am surprised. So I will keep it pressed for a week cowashing for the next two. I am just happy that I finally have found something that I think will work for me.
Getting a relaxer causes me grief and anxiety issues, so thats out. I think my last relaxer was June'10.
Anywho, so for the last three months I have been getting my hair pressed every 3wks. My stylist 'warned'
me that I had better not do anything to my hair for 3 wks. Well, she scared me the first month.(ok first two months) I thought the natural curlys were going to take over and destroy my life. I love daily cowashing too much, so I am back to cowashing and my hair is quite managable, I am surprised. So I will keep it pressed for a week cowashing for the next two. I am just happy that I finally have found something that I think will work for me.
itsallaboutattitude
Cancer Support in Health
@Sherae Thanks! I think I am heat trained. I don't think my hair has radically changed since I still have tons of curls. However, it is easier to get my hair straight. Sometimes I only get my hair blow dried and don't get it pressed out.
In addition, I don't have issues with reversion. I can sweat a little and not have my hair turn into a puff. When it's time to get it curly, I pre-poo with EVOO for an hour or less, then I Conditioner - rinse,
Shampoo - rinse,
Conditioner plus Coconut oil - detangle - twist - light rinse.
HHG
Dang Napp you got me lookin' up Apex now, lol. I usually am anti oil right before using direct heat but man relaxer straight roots sounds good (roots are where I struggle). I was reading old post about using oil to press/flat iron and people were saying it's like frying your hair but most of our parents (including mine) used grease to press and I know my hair was thick and had no problem retaining. Maybe I could use a bit of Apex under my Sabino L&B.
Napp
Ms. Nobody
the thing is about pressing oil is that you do not need as high as a temperature to straighten the hair so there will be no frying. if you hear sizzling the temperature is too hot.
i actually went back and put a little apex and went over it with the hot comb. one pass on low temparature. my hair is shinier,has tons of body and movement and i can lift it and it falls down. before, if i lifted it it would only fall halfway and stick out. I LURVES my grease. the key is a light hand and less heat. using grease does not have to be like back in the day where you had heavy,greasy burnt smelling hair.
good news! im getting my new camera next week. so next time i will post a pictorial or maybe a YT video in this thread.(if i have time)
the thing is about pressing oil is that you do not need as high as a temperature to straighten the hair so there will be no frying. if you hear sizzling the temperature is too hot.
i actually went back and put a little apex and went over it with the hot comb. one pass on low temparature. my hair is shinier,has tons of body and movement and i can lift it and it falls down. before, if i lifted it it would only fall halfway and stick out. I LURVES my grease. the key is a light hand and less heat. using grease does not have to be like back in the day where you had heavy,greasy burnt smelling hair.
good news! im getting my new camera next week. so next time i will post a pictorial or maybe a YT video in this thread.(if i have time)
@bolded ok I see. Makes sense.
FemmeCreole
Island Gyal
I went and bought apex today... I'm going to try it tomorrow.
FemmeCreole
Island Gyal
OK this is amazing. Let me preface this my saying that I've had my hair "professionally" straightened twice before and I left the salon with a poofy mess both times.
Well yesterday I got the apex pressing oil .....my bff who spent the weekend with me was super excited to do my hair. It took a couple hours to complete but she did an amazing job. My hair looked like I got a relaxer. I even wrapped my hair lastnight...something I was never able to do when I straightening my hair previously.
I didn't take pics lastnight because it was late and I was tired by the time we were done. I'll take a pic some time today.
Well yesterday I got the apex pressing oil .....my bff who spent the weekend with me was super excited to do my hair. It took a couple hours to complete but she did an amazing job. My hair looked like I got a relaxer. I even wrapped my hair lastnight...something I was never able to do when I straightening my hair previously.
I didn't take pics lastnight because it was late and I was tired by the time we were done. I'll take a pic some time today.
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FemmeCreole
Island Gyal
I have to get my ends clipped
FemmeCreole
Island Gyal
FemmeCreole
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Poohbear
Fearfully Wonderfully Made
βεℓℓα,
I believe letting your hair airdry in braids and then blowdrying is what's causing breakage!!!
I have 4a/b hair and if I let my hair airdry in braids before blowdrying, I'm going to see alot of breakage too!
See, airdrying in braids really doesn't stretch my hair out good enough to blowdry. Airdrying can also make type 4 hair brittle. So I blowdry my hair when wet/damp after applying a good amount of Mane N Tail Conditioner to each section. I also use either a brush or comb attachment with my blowdryer.
So after washing your hair, but your hair into 8 detangled sections. Unravel a section, apply whatever product you want to use, then blowdry holding that section stretched out as you run the blowdryer through your hair. Do not let go of the section or it will shrink right back up.
Blowdrying through shrunken coiled up dry hair is what causes the breakage.
Hope that helps.
I believe letting your hair airdry in braids and then blowdrying is what's causing breakage!!!
I have 4a/b hair and if I let my hair airdry in braids before blowdrying, I'm going to see alot of breakage too!
See, airdrying in braids really doesn't stretch my hair out good enough to blowdry. Airdrying can also make type 4 hair brittle. So I blowdry my hair when wet/damp after applying a good amount of Mane N Tail Conditioner to each section. I also use either a brush or comb attachment with my blowdryer.
So after washing your hair, but your hair into 8 detangled sections. Unravel a section, apply whatever product you want to use, then blowdry holding that section stretched out as you run the blowdryer through your hair. Do not let go of the section or it will shrink right back up.
Blowdrying through shrunken coiled up dry hair is what causes the breakage.
Hope that helps.
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