Bio Available Silica challenge anyone? So Easy

[Irresistible]

I'm sure I'm being impatient but I just want to get an idea, for those of you who noticed a change be it (skin, hair, nails) can you explain the timing and the specific changes that you noted?

Oh and dosage you are taking.

you will see changes in a couple or few weeks up to a couple months, Ive never taken more than two a day and wouldnt recommend taking more than the recommended dose of 1-3 a day

 

[Irresistible]

you will see changes in a couple or few weeks up to a couple months, Ive never taken more than two a day and wouldnt recommend taking more than the recommended dose of 1-3 a day

one of the biggest changes I always noticed first and mostly was my naills , even more so than skin or hair

 

[Ediese]

I didn't realize that this would be beneficial for your skin too. I bought a bottle from vitacost, but slacked off from taking it. I need to start taking my vits again.

 

[vevster]

Sorry the link didn't work for you so here is a picture that I just took with my cellphone....it clearly says 1500mg.

I know sweetheart, that was a TYPO. If you go to the Company's site, not vitacost you will see for yourself. I've ordered this many times. There is only one strength product. CALL THE COMPANY and AGAIN here is the link to the company's site

http://www.altahealthproducts.com/silica.htm

You are a stubborn young lady.

 

[vevster]

Its good to know your staying within the recommended dosage or one extra!

cause that 12 a day?????

I really don't understand why you are in an uproar over THIS particular supplement. Everyone on here is fine.

 

[Irresistible]

I really don't understand why you are in an uproar over THIS particular supplement. Everyone on here is fine.

First it was I was I'm on a rampage , now its I'm in an uproar

&again I say call it what you want

I only posted information about the product that could be harmful in high doses in case anyone were to do that

why are you having such an issue with me doing that is my question?

what do you care, your within the recommended dose right? how is it going on a rampage or being in an uproar to post the dangers of taking this in high doses? Can you be so sure everyone that reads this thread wouldnt do that?

would you want them to?

 

[Irresistible]

The way I see it was this was just posting information that was not previously added to the thread that was of value and importance about this supplement

nothing more, nothing less

in the end grown folks do what they want

I'm done, all I wanted to do was provide information to keep it safe

not suffer accusations of being on a rampage and what not!

to me it was serious! JUST READ IT!

if others dont take as such, that aint on me!

First it was I was I'm on a rampage , now its I'm in an uproar

&again I say call it what you want

I only posted information about the product that could be harmful in high doses in case anyone were to do that

why are you having such an issue with me doing that is my question?

what do you care, your within the recommended dose right? how is it going on a rampage or being in an uproar to post the dangers of taking this in high doses? Can you be so sure everyone that reads this thread wouldnt do that?

would you want them to?

 

[vevster]

First it was I was I'm on a rampage , now its I'm in an uproar

&again I say call it what you want

I only posted information about the product that could be harmful in high doses in case anyone were to do that

why are you having such an issue with me doing that is my question?

what do you care, your within the recommended dose right? how is it going on a rampage or being in an uproar to post the dangers of taking this in high doses? Can you be so sure everyone that reads this thread wouldnt do that?

would you want them to?

First you post your information, THEN you start a separate thread as if this was the most dangerous supplement on earth. My position is if it was as dangerous as you purport to think-- the FDA which favors pharmeceuticals ANYWAY would have removed this from the market.

*just my opinion* you seem overly concerned.

 

[Irresistible]

First you post your information, THEN you start a separate thread as if this was the most dangerous supplement on earth. My position is if it was as dangerous as you purport to think-- the FDA which favors pharmeceuticals ANYWAY would have removed this from the market.

*just my opinion* you seem overly concerned.

I SAID in that thread that THIS thread is 40 some odd pages long, what if ladies dont read that far to the information I posted Vevster and they are already on high doses? considering the information dug up about this supplement in high doses being dangerous, not just one site but on many, did you not read that this depletes Thiamine and that it also knocks out Potassium and high doses cause liver damage? yeah I'm OVERLY concerned

on this board ladies get desperate for fast results concerning their hair, at the cost of their health? like I said why are you worried your staying within range, but on the other thread someone already posted they are taking 8 a day?

why arent you concerned is the question, as this would be something to be concerned about and why the accusations because I wanted to provide the information on the risks?

was that included anywhere in this thread? in fact you said you believed it would be safe to take 12 a day for a week! Well that would depend on many factors with someone's health, like I said for me, had I not been taking Prescription stregnth Potassium already due to low serum potassium, this could have did me great harm, believing 12 a day was safe!

Thiamine deficiency and liver damage IS serious , tell me its not? as well as it knocking out POTASSIUM, geesh I mean that could only make someone very sick and affect their HEART!

my only point was to keep it in recommended dose range to keep it safe

anybody misunderstanding what I have stated so clearly and posted links to over and over, well I just cant make it any more clear

THIS STUFF IS NOT SAFE IN HIGH DOSES!

 

[vevster]

I SAID in that thread that THIS thread is 40 some odd pages long, what if ladies dont read that far to the information I posted Vevster and they are already on high doses? considering the information dug up about this supplement in high doses being dangerous, not just one site but on many, did you not read that this depletes Thiamine and that it also knocks out Potassium and high doses cause liver damage? yeah I'm OVERLY concerned

on this board ladies get desperate for fast results concerning their hair, at the cost of their health? like I said why are you worried your staying within range, but on the other thread someone already posted they are taking 8 a day?

why arent you concerned is the question, as this would be something to be concerned about and why the accusations because I wanted to provide the information on the risks?

was that included anywhere in this thread? in fact you said you believed it would be safe to take 12 a day for a week! Well that would depend on many factors with someone's health, like I said for me, had I not been taking Prescription stregnth Potassium already due to low serum potassium, this could have did me great harm, believing 12 a day was safe!

Thiamine deficiency and liver damage IS serious , tell me its not? as well as it knocking out POTASSIUM, geesh I mean that could only make someone very sick and affect their HEART!

my only point was to keep it in recommended dose range to keep it safe

anybody misunderstanding what I have stated so clearly and posted links to over and over, well I just can make it any more clear

THIS STUFF IS NOT SAFE IN HIGH DOSES!

Anyone on ANY prescription needs to evaluate any additional supplement they take for interactions. I just think you are just going a wee bit crazy over this. You are extra.

I have finished discussing this with you.

 

[Irresistible]

First you post your information, THEN you start a separate thread as if this was the most dangerous supplement on earth. My position is if it was as dangerous as you purport to think-- the FDA which favors pharmeceuticals ANYWAY would have removed this from the market.

*just my opinion* you seem overly concerned.

YEAH you missed the whole point all along, its not about it not being safe, its about it not being safe in high doses

& your wrong there are many herbs out there that are not yanked that could cause harm, and none of this stuff is even FDA regulated or approved, they have nothing to do with this , they expect you the consumer to educate yourselves about this cause they are not even involved in supplements , even as stated already fat soluble vitamins can cause great harm in high doses and they are on the shelves

Olive leaf extract landed me in the emergency room and was listed with poison control, MSM can send people into 'die off' symptoms and make them very sick. So many things are just posted here as growth aides and ladies jump on board.

my only point if you read back was to keep this in recommended dose range because I found the 'FACTS' that its probably not safe to do it any other way. Thats why I CARED!

GEESH

 

[Irresistible]

Anyone on ANY prescription needs to evaluate any additional supplement they take for interactions. I just think you are just going a wee bit crazy over this. You are extra.

I have finished discussing this with you.

LOL Okay Vevster , I am extra, on a rampage and in an uproar.....it doesnt matter to me what you think really see cause

The information wasnt for you, as you are taking the recommended dose and dont see it as vaulabe to you, BUT it was for anyone it might be of value AND importance to! Thats who it was for!

but your right about anyone on prescriptions!

 

[LaNecia]

Oh wow...just wow. Thank you Irresistible for sharing this information. I wish more people really understood how harmful/dangerous megadosing supplements and vitamins can be.

Just because 2 is good, doesn't mean 20 is better. Not picking on this in particular, this is true of ANY SUPPLEMENT.

Simply, nutrients are BEST obtained from WHOLE FOODS. If you're going to supplement, do so in MODERATION. You won't miss your health until you don't have it anymore.

My 0.5 Cents.

Vixx

 

[vevster]

LOL Okay Vevster , I am extra, on a rampage and in an uproar.....it doesnt matter to me what you think really see cause

The information wasnt for you, as you are taking the recommended dose and dont see it as vaulabe to you, BUT it was for anyone it might be of value AND importance to! Thats who it was for!

but your right about anyone on prescriptions!

Okay, I'm not done on this topic. I was recommended THIS brand from a person I feel is EXTREMELY KNOWLEGEABLE.

Not just any horsetail or silica. Because of this conversation I have contacted the company and they will address every issue that you posted about so that I may have it straight from the horse's mouth. I'll update this thread later.

 

[jrae]

Oh wow...just wow. Thank you Irresistible for sharing this information. I wish more people really understood how harmful/dangerous megadosing supplements and vitamins can be.

Just because 2 is good, doesn't mean 20 is better. Not picking on this in particular, this is true of ANY SUPPLEMENT.

Simply, nutrients are BEST obtained from WHOLE FOODS. If you're going to supplement, do so in MODERATION. You won't miss your health until you don't have it anymore.

My 0.5 Cents.

Vixx

Excellent points and just for clarification, you are referring to food from nature not "Whole Foods" the store.

I have been irresponsible with supplements myself and suffered some consequences from it so I take heed to warnings now and do my own research now.

 

[Irresistible]

Okay, I'm not done on this topic. I was recommended THIS brand from a person I feel is EXTREMELY KNOWLEGEABLE.

Not just any horsetail or silica. Because of this conversation I have contacted the company and they will address every issue that you posted about so that I may have it straight from the horse's mouth. I'll update this thread later.

Ive taken this same brand years ago quite a few times. You seem to think I am dissing the brand? NOPE and if this company comes back and tells you or your VERY KNOWLEDGABLE source to take this supplement (AGAINST THEIR OWN RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE BOTTLE) in doses higher than recommended, then the company itself and your source would lose all credibility , but they would never say that!

This is still horsetail and silica we are talking about no matter how you slice it and what the brand is!

I cant believe your going back and forth with me on this Vevster, the company would never recommend taking higher doses or that would be their ass! not only that but site after site after site after site says the same thing

do this, look up IRON risks in high doses, or selenium, or magnesium or potassium , THEY ALL HAVE RISKS, or vitamin A or vitamin D.....yep Risks!

why is this so hard for you to swallow that this would to? all I am saying and have said , is keep it in safe range, for the ladies that might be tempted to megadose on this! I have stated clearly I took THIS EXACT BRAND safely in the past within the RECOMMENDED dose range, I dont understand why you are taking it as I AM saying anything about this brand or that it is not safe as a whole......

Since it does say, it blocks Thiamine absorption , period ,not at any dose, I said its probably best not to consider taking this LONG TERM, and to take your B complex seperately, HELL basically with it causing total blockage of absorption, anyone taking this really NEEDS TO ADD B COMLEX OR THIAMINE supplementation period. Now for the Potassium, it can be very dangerous for anyone prone to low serum Potassium, again this isnt stated that it does it high doses, just period, so anyone taking high doses would be worse off, or someone like me (before I started taking Prescription K) with low serum potassium or anyone on potassium depleting drugs already, yes this would spell big trouble for , or even on diuretics! VERY DANGEROUS TO DEPLETE YOUR K! it controls many things and YOUR HEART!

so again its not the brand, I am not shytting on your thread, or Silica or horsetail or any of its benefits! AS stated I have reaped the benefits as well, my only point again IS THAT THIS HAS PROBABLE SERIOUS RISKS IF ANYONE WERE TO MEGADOSE WITH IT!

 

[LaNecia]

Excellent points and just for clarification, you are referring to food from nature not "Whole Foods" the store.

I have been irresponsible with supplements myself and suffered some consequences from it so I take heed to warnings now and do my own research now.

Exactly, whole foods (from nature), organic is better but you don't have to shop at Whole Foods Market to get your chow!

 

[Irresistible]

Yeah I'm not getting what the big issue is here

just take it safely and without megadosing and everything should be fine!

Besides at any time anyone is free to do their own research on this

I am not forcing anyone to take my word as bible, I ask in fact that you research and dont just take it from the site that sells the stuff. Also this is still an herb and people can have various reactions so with anything new start slow and see how you do, this is all just doing things wise, why megadose and even RISK harm?

I didnt think I would be raked over the coals for providing information that would/could keep people from harm.......but by all means like I have already said grown folks do what you want to do.....just hope you dont end up sick with long nails and nice skin!

again, this was only to say, its probably much safer within the recommended dose range! and I only wanted to catch the ladies' with the other thread' that might already be taking higher doses!

but like a few have told me, Ive done what I could , the information is out there, my part is over!

and I WONT BE MEGA DOSING!

Oh wow...just wow. Thank you Irresistible for sharing this information. I wish more people really understood how harmful/dangerous megadosing supplements and vitamins can be.

Just because 2 is good, doesn't mean 20 is better. Not picking on this in particular, this is true of ANY SUPPLEMENT.

Simply, nutrients are BEST obtained from WHOLE FOODS. If you're going to supplement, do so in MODERATION. You won't miss your health until you don't have it anymore.

My 0.5 Cents.

Vixx

 

[vevster]

Yeah I'm not getting what the big issue is here

just take it safely and without megadosing and everything should be fine!

Besides at any time anyone is free to do their own research on this

I am not forcing anyone to take my word as bible, I ask in fact that you research and dont just take it from the site that sells the stuff. Also this is still an herb and people can have various reactions so with anything new start slow and see how you do, this is all just doing things wise, why megadose and even RISK harm?

I didnt think I would be raked over the coals for providing information that would/could keep people from harm.......but by all means like I have already said grown folks do what you want to do.....just hope you dont end up sick with long nails and nice skin!

again, this was only to say, its probably much safer within the recommended dose range! and I only wanted to catch the ladies' with the other thread' that might already be taking higher doses!

but like a few have told me, Ive done what I could , the information is out there, my part is over!

and I WONT BE MEGA DOSING!

This is my point. YOu are talking waaay too much. I said as a NOD to you that I would be contacting the company. My source has been prescribing this silica to his patients for years so I consider him more of an authority than someone doing google 'horsetail'. You need to calm down.

 

[Irresistible]

This is my point. YOu are talking waaay too much. I said as a NOD to you that I would be contacting the company. My source has been prescribing this silica to his patients for years so I consider him more of an authority than someone doing google 'horsetail'. You need to calm down.

LOL@ you saying I am talking too much! I am responding to you and to others on a thread, didnt know there was a limit! *dead*

I am quite calm and I am done! u seemed to miss my whole point all along anyway. Cant bear to repeat it anymore

again your taking only 3 to 4 a day

so yeah ask your source if they recommend more, that should be interesting

I googled and the same information was EVERYWHERE......if that dont count as something for someone to consider then so be it, but I did for those that would take it into consideration

I'm so through, if your source says take more than the company recommends.....well again that just wouldnt make much sense!

but I'm out this thread because you know what I am only taking my one a day now as opposed to the two I have taken for short periods in years past cause I aint no spring chicken no more , and I really dont need no depletions of anything and I am not re purchasing, as to not take it long term as I always have only taken this short term, so I'm straight!

Enjoy your Silica ladies, keep it safe and it will reward you and not harm you! *two fingas*

 

[vevster]

LOL@ you saying I am talking too much! I am responding to you and to others on a thread, didnt know there was a limit! *dead*

I am quite calm and I am done! u seemed to miss my whole point all along anyway. Cant bear to repeat it anymore

again your taking only 3 to 4 a day

so yeah ask your source if they recommend more, that should be interesting

I googled and the same information was EVERYWHERE......if that dont count as something for someone to consider then so be it, but I did for those that would take it into consideration

I'm so through, if your source says take more than the company recommends.....well again that just wouldnt make much sense!

but I'm out this thread because you know what I am only taking my one a day now as opposed to the two I have taken for short periods in years past cause I aint no spring chicken no more , and I really dont need no depletions of anything and I am not re purchasing, as to not take it long term as I always have only taken this short term, so I'm straight!

Enjoy your Silica ladies, keep it safe and it will reward you and not harm you! *two fingas*

Good.

 

[ebonysweetie]

Wow thanks for the info. I usually take the suggested about because you can megadose on anything, including water. erplexed

 

[Irresistible]

Good.

You know what, this is just sadly and plainly disrespectful!

but whatever floats your boat!

take 20 of them muggs erry day then for all I care!


peace

 

[Irresistible]

Wow thanks for the info. I usually take the suggested about because you can megadose on anything, including water. erplexed

You know what! yep even an overdose of water can kill you, but you know what people dont even know that much, how it can totally knock out your sodium and other electrolytes! Blam Dead! Some people just want to stay in the dark I guess, I mean someone posted that someone would have to die! Joking or whatever, thats just sick and crazy to say, when information is availiable first hand without someone dying!

for all those that took the information as valuable and important, you were who it was for!

and nobody can take away from me feelin good about providing it!

 

[ebonysweetie]

You know what, this is just sadly and plainly disrespectful!

but whatever floats your boat!

take 20 of them muggs erry day then for all I care!


peace

I'm sorry but Yall trippin.

 

[ebonysweetie]

You know what! yep even an overdose of water can kill you, but you know what people dont even know that much, how it can totally knock out your sodium and other electrolytes! Blam Dead! Some people just want to stay in the dark I guess, I mean someone posted that someone would have to die! Joking or whatever, thats just sick and crazy to say, when information is availiable first hand without someone dying!

for all those that took the information as valuable and important, you were who it was for!

and nobody can take away from me feelin good about providing it!

I'm glad you understood what I just typed I didn't even proofread.

Yeah before I changed my major, I used to intern in hospitals and witness people megadosing or using "safe" supplements and throwing there blood chemistry all out of wack. This is one of the major complaints of many doctors I know, they're always in a constant battle with their patients over taking proper dosage. They always end up having to undo damage that should been avoided in the first place.

 

[EbonyEyes]

Irresistable, thank you for posting the possible risks with taking silica in high doses. I had a wonderful lady from this board PM me telling me to be careful with taking too many Alta Silica tablets. I really appreciated the warning and it led me to do more research myself.

You've done your part - You cared enough about us to post the possible risks. And we love you for it. The ball is now in our court to either accept the information you've provided or reject it.

To put your mind at ease regarding the thiamine deficiency risk, according to Alta Health Products company, the enzyme that may cause thiamine deficiency is extracted. Read more about their extract process here:
http://www.altahealthproducts.com/newsletter.htm

The risk of potassium loss comes from horsetail being a natural diuretic. So I would guess that taking too much horsetail could cause a major potassium deficiency problem.

The point that I think you are trying to drive home is too much of anything is not a good thing. If an overdose of water can kill us as you pointed out, then we need to be careful not to overdose on anything else.

 

[EbonyEyes]

Hi Vevster (and all Alta Silica challenge participants)!

To give you an update, I've temporarily stopped taking the Alta Silica while I get my iron levels up. I'm currently taking Slow Fe iron tablets daily and taking Alive Multivitamins daily. My energy levels are much better. I will be seeing my doctor in August to get my iron levels re-checked.

If all goes well, in early August, I will start taking Alta Silica again. I'll probably begin with 1 tablet a day for a week, increase to 2 tablets a day the next week, and then go up to 3 tablets a day the following week, if necessary.

I'm doing this so that if my nails take off after beginning the Alta Silica again (which will be a good indication that it's doing wonders on my hair as well!), I'll have a better testimony to share with you all. You can be pretty sure that my nail improvement has to do with the alta silica and not any other supplements.

I'll of course be keeping up with this thread and supporting all of you!

 

[Irresistible]

Irresistable, thank you for posting the possible risks with taking silica in high doses. I had a wonderful lady from this board PM me telling me to be careful with taking too many Alta Silica tablets. I really appreciated the warning and it led me to do more research myself.

You've done your part - You cared enough about us to post the possible risks. And we love you for it. The ball is now in our court to either accept the information you've provided or reject it.

To put your mind at ease regarding the thiamine deficiency risk, according to Alta Health Products company, the enzyme that may cause thiamine deficiency is extracted. Read more about their extract process here:
http://www.altahealthproducts.com/newsletter.htm

The risk of potassium loss comes from horsetail being a natural diuretic. So I would guess that taking too much horsetail could cause a major potassium deficiency problem.

The point that I think you are trying to drive home is too much of anything is not a good thing. If an overdose of water can kill us as you pointed out, then we need to be careful not to overdose on anything else.

I'm really really happy to hear that about the Thiamine, thats so dangerous, Gotta watch the Potassium too cause thats worse and could get really bad really fast!

Thank you for posting this to me

and for the other ladies that understood my point and concern *Thank you to you all as well*

 

[Irresistible]

Its really weird but it definitely takes off in the nail area most and faster everytime!

take care of your health mama!
The horsetail will still be around and I do agree its best to start off slow especially for anyone that hasnt taken this before

Hi Vevster (and all Alta Silica challenge participants)!

To give you an update, I've temporarily stopped taking the Alta Silica while I get my iron levels up. I'm currently taking Slow Fe iron tablets daily and taking Alive Multivitamins daily. My energy levels are much better. I will be seeing my doctor in August to get my iron levels re-checked.

If all goes well, in early August, I will start taking Alta Silica again. I'll probably begin with 1 tablet a day for a week, increase to 2 tablets a day the next week, and then go up to 3 tablets a day the following week, if necessary.

I'm doing this so that if my nails take off after beginning the Alta Silica again (which will be a good indication that it's doing wonders on my hair as well!), I'll have a better testimony to share with you all. You can be pretty sure that my nail improvement has to do with the alta silica and not any other supplements.

I'll of course be keeping up with this thread and supporting all of you!