Bi-racial girls come in please

[Mz.MoMo5235]

Okay not mixed race or anything but I know this girl who is and has damged hair and she was all complaning and asking for advice so when i gave her some she looked at my hair and was like "I have different hair than your's it's good and more better than yours."

So I was like "How can it be all that good if it's breaking like crazy and your hairline is receding?"

But yeah having one non-black parent does not guarantee hair in the 3s most of the mixed people I know have type 3-4 hair. Only a handful I know have type 3/2

fully agree! most of the mixed girls irl here have chewed up hair cause they assume since they have "good hair" they can do what ever to it.

now my hair used to be chewed about because i got a lot of bad advise from people with 3 strands of hair in their pony tail. plus growing up with a complex about my hair (one group said i had good hair and the other said i had bad) i would do what ever i could just so my hair wouldnt stand out from others... my hair was a mess man lol and a lot of these mixed chicas locally are running around a mess as well.

thank god for hair boards!!! lmao

 

[Miss AJ]

IMO the texture of the hair indirectly affects the length. My grandmother had 3c hair and she almost never got a relaxer. This seems to be pretty common. I don't know many people with type 1,2,or 3 ab hair that relax. If they do, it's definitely not as offten as someone with more coilier texture. Since people with 4bzzz hair are more likely to relax, this probably contributes to the breakage we so commonly see. This is probably why its seems that most people in that hair group have "slower growing" hair.

Piggybacking on this statement, if you have ever seen a long haired 4B who has never relaxed or doesn't relax anymore, they have a good amount of length. This is why I tell people if you learn to work WITH your hair type instead of against it then you can have a head full of natural hair too, regardless of texture.

 

[Austro-Afrikana]

This thread was supposed to be deleted ages ago. I made another thread with a proper poll. I guess that one got deleted instead

 

[Kurlee]

fully agree! most of the mixed girls irl here have chewed up hair cause they assume since they have "good hair" they can do what ever to it.

now my hair used to be chewed about because i got a lot of bad advise from people with 3 strands of hair in their pony tail. plus growing up with a complex about my hair (one group said i had good hair and the other said i had bad) i would do what ever i could just so my hair wouldnt stand out from others... my hair was a mess man lol and a lot of these mixed chicas locally are running around a mess as well.

thank god for hair boards!!! lmao

heard this IRL from peoples mouths. Very sideeyeish

 

[AfroKink]

Looking at the results and judging from previous threads, biracial people are more likely to have type 3 hair than non-biracial black people on LHCF. In those threads that generally ask hair type, type 4 is more prevalent than type 3. In this thread we're seeing a 50:50. This could even mean that the majority of people who pick 'type 3' in other LHCF are biracial.

And then it can also be seen in the poll that most biracial people do have long hair.

I'm just going by the numbers

 

[curlicarib]

I'm mixed, but I couldn't vote in the length catagories because, since the age of 13 I've been cut happy. So while my hair has been short for many years, it's not because it doesn't grow, it's because, until recently I didn't let it grow.

 

[Neith]

Looking at the results and judging from previous threads, biracial people are more likely to have type 3 hair than non-biracial black people on LHCF. In those threads that generally ask hair type, type 4 is more prevalent than type 3. In this thread we're seeing a 50:50. This could even mean that the majority of people who pick 'type 3' in other LHCF are biracial.

And then it can also be seen in the poll that most biracial people do have long hair.

I'm just going by the numbers

Not that I don't agree with you on some key points...

Of course it would be more common for a bi-racial person to have type 3 hair.

But, that doesn't change the fact that there are plenty of type 4 bi-racial people and plenty of type 3 "fully" black people.

Type 4's tend to have a harder time retaining, but there are plenty of type 3's struggling too.


However, this poll isn't scientific... by a long shot. Even the OP keeps saying it, lol. She messed up on the poll. The numbers aren't going to be that reliable. I personally wouldn't take the actual numbers to heart.

 

[Bella_Atl]

Okay not mixed race or anything but I know this girl who is and has damged hair and she was all complaning and asking for advice so when i gave her some she looked at my hair and was like "I have different hair than your's it's good and more better than yours."

So I was like "How can it be all that good if it's breaking like crazy and your hairline is receding?"

But yeah having one non-black parent does not guarantee hair in the 3s most of the mixed people I know have type 3-4 hair. Only a handful I know have type 3/2

I have type 3/2 hair. I can retain length but it was HARD for me to retain HEALTHY length. I didn't really learn that until I found this board.

Good hair is healthy hair period.

 

[AfroKink]

Not that I don't agree with you on some key points...

Of course it would be more common for a bi-racial person to have type 3 hair.

But, that doesn't change the fact that there are plenty of type 4 bi-racial people and plenty of type 3 "fully" black people.

Type 4's tend to have a harder time retaining, but there are plenty of type 3's struggling too.


However, this poll isn't scientific... by a long shot. Even the OP keeps saying it, lol. She messed up on the poll. The numbers aren't going to be that reliable. I personally wouldn't take the actual numbers to heart.

It's no more or less scientific than the rest of the polls on this forum which I used for comparison.

Yes there are plenty of fully black people with type 3 hair. (No where did I deny that) Yet, the majority on this board have type 4 hair.

Yes there are plenty of biracial people with type 4 hair. (no where did I deny that either) Yet, the poll here is 50:50

Lys

 

[Neith]

It's no more or less scientific than the rest of the polls on this forum which I used for comparison.

Yes there are plenty of fully black people with type 3 hair. (No where did I deny that) Yet, the majority on this board have type 4 hair.

Yes there are plenty of biracial people with type 4 hair. (no where did I deny that either) Yet, the poll here is 50:50

Lys

I said that in agreement with you, not as an "attack". Sorry if it came out that way. I wasn't implying that you thought differently, I assumed that you agreed with me.

I also agree that type 4 hair is more common than type 3 in black people. (to my knowledge - some people may disagree )

The only thing I disagreed with was the validity of the poll.

This particular poll is weird. You can't tell who voted for what. That makes it... not all that valid when it comes to the specific numbers. Even the creator of the poll thinks so.

 

[goodmorningruby]

First of all, and yes I have to put this out there because it really bothers me, I hate the term "mixed". I identify myself as mulatto, and while some people are offended by the term, I feel it is less obscure than "mixed". Mixed can mean a variety of things. You can be "mixed" with Mongoloid and Indo-aryan, or Melanesian and Mongoloid, or Indo-aryan and Negroid, or Negroid and Melanesian, or Caucasoid and Negroid, or Mongoloid, Melanesian, and Negroid, or Indo-aryan, Negroid and Caucasoid, and so on and so forth, etc etc etc. Mixed can also technically refer to having multiple racial contributors to one hereditary outcome, e.g. Black, White, and Indian (tri-racial), rather than just two. And we all are aware, at least I hope, that our complete lineages are uncommonly "pure".

But when I say I am mulatto, automatically that registers to whomever it concerns as predominantly "black and white", although I am technically more tri-racial than bi-racial (which is an equally vague term as mixed).

Now...regarding my hair. I am primarily 4a with light skin; I do have some 3abc mostly at the nape, and perhaps some 4b sprinkled throughout, but I do not have what is typically thought as "bi-racial hair" (3abc). As a child, my hair was at least waist length, possibly tail bone, until I interfered and managed to maintain shoulder length until now.

I am under the strong impression that ANYONE with ANY hair type can have long, healthy hair, and this board is somewhat of a testament to that. However, 3abc type hair, which stereotypically characterizes mulattos, is a different texture than 4ab hair and can pose greater, for lack of a better word, "challenges" in pursuit of length. This can be attributed to several things, some of which were already mentioned i.e. tighter curl pattern affecting the distribution of natural moisture from the scalp, the likelihood of 4ab hair types subjecting their hair to greater potential damage like relaxers which feed into more dryness, etc. These can exemplify reasons why you are observing this pattern of looser hair types with longer hair. But with the proper knowledge, a 4ab hair type can achieve the same goals as a 3abc, no doubt. And that is not to say that 3abc hair types don't suffer.

On a different note, not to hijack, but it has always pained me to experience an oblique animosity and rejection towards myself and other mulattos amongst the black community because of light skin and the recurring 3abc hair types. The same can be said for social and cultural adaptations. What I mean by that is as a mulatto I am often made to feel like I am "too white" for the black community and "too black" for the white community. Ya'll can argue with me all you want, but the mulattos know what I'm talking about. And it is sad that the divergence between blacks and mulattos can sometimes culminate because of hair type. A long time ago I divested myself of all obligation I felt was due to whites and blacks separately, and enjoy a balance between the two as an individual, no pressure, 4a, light skinned and all. Will be keeping an eye on this thread...

 

[theprototype]

First of all, and yes I have to put this out there because it really bothers me, I hate the term "mixed".

IMHO, the term may be somewhat fitting for this thread. I think the common assumption is that Black "mixed" with anything else leads to type 3 hair, so OP wouldn't limit the "mix" to Black and White.

 

[Daughter]

I'm not mixed race, my dad had 3b hair but I'm firmly in the 4 camp I have many cousins with type 3 hair that either have slow-growing hair or not much body or have difficulty retaining length. I really do believe that it's individual, I have white friends who take hair nutrition pills and black friends who don't... I just suppose that some hair (of whatever type) is more resilient than others and we all need to take care of our hair differently.

 

[poookie]

*stands outside of thread because both my mommy & daddy are black*

 

[goodmorningruby]

First of all, and yes I have to put this out there because it really bothers me, I hate the term "mixed". I identify myself as mulatto, and while some people are offended by the term, I feel it is less obscure than "mixed". Mixed can mean a variety of things. You can be "mixed" with Mongoloid and Indo-aryan, or Melanesian and Mongoloid, or Indo-aryan and Negroid, or Negroid and Melanesian, or Caucasoid and Negroid, or Mongoloid, Melanesian, and Negroid, or Indo-aryan, Negroid and Caucasoid, and so on and so forth, etc etc etc. Mixed can also technically refer to having multiple racial contributors to one hereditary outcome, e.g. Black, White, and Indian (tri-racial), rather than just two. And we all are aware, at least I hope, that our complete lineages are uncommonly "pure".

But when I say I am mulatto, automatically that registers to whomever it concerns as predominantly "black and white", although I am technically more tri-racial than bi-racial (which is an equally vague term as mixed).

IMHO, the term may be somewhat fitting for this thread. I think the common assumption is that Black "mixed" with anything else leads to type 3 hair, so OP wouldn't limit the "mix" to Black and White.

You're right, OP was not specific about the "mixes" being addressed in this thread and left it completely open, which is something I appreciate. I never said I thought she should specify; I thought it would be assumed I was simply expressing how I felt about the term being used in the event that it was referencing a person who has one white parent and one black parent. I even stated that being mixed/multi-racial could mean a lot of things. I would have said the same thing (excluding the term mulatto) if I were black and some other ethnicity. The bolded parts are where I identified MY reaction to the term, MY definition of the term, and MY relation to it (MY mixture).

To the red in your post: Also, I forgot to quote the female with 3b hair talking about how both her parents are Puerto Rican, one with 2 type hair, and the other with 4b (I think?) hair. That's not a mixture of Black+[insert another race here] and her situation is still relevant. But like you mentioned, there are common assumptions about 3abc hair types and who they "belong" to ...............

 

[goodmorningruby]

I'm not mixed race, my dad had 3b hair but I'm firmly in the 4 camp I have many cousins with type 3 hair that either have slow-growing hair or not much body or have difficulty retaining length. I really do believe that it's individual, I have white friends who take hair nutrition pills and black friends who don't... I just suppose that some hair (of whatever type) is more resilient than others and we all need to take care of our hair differently.

I agree. It's individualistic.

 

[curlicarib]

Hey Ruby, not knocking how you feel - just giving a different perspective. I take no offense at either term, however, for me personally, "mixed" is a better definition. I am a product of various races, including black, white, east indian and chinese. So, it works for me. As for the term "mulatto", for me, it does not bring to mind a black/white mix. Being from the caribbean & south america, the term mulatto brings to my mind a spanish (spain)/portugese/indian (native)/black mixture. I guess it's just a case of local terminology. Anyhoo, I agree with everything else you said.

First of all, and yes I have to put this out there because it really bothers me, I hate the term "mixed". I identify myself as mulatto, and while some people are offended by the term, I feel it is less obscure than "mixed". Mixed can mean a variety of things. You can be "mixed" with Mongoloid and Indo-aryan, or Melanesian and Mongoloid, or Indo-aryan and Negroid, or Negroid and Melanesian, or Caucasoid and Negroid, or Mongoloid, Melanesian, and Negroid, or Indo-aryan, Negroid and Caucasoid, and so on and so forth, etc etc etc. Mixed can also technically refer to having multiple racial contributors to one hereditary outcome, e.g. Black, White, and Indian (tri-racial), rather than just two. And we all are aware, at least I hope, that our complete lineages are uncommonly "pure".

But when I say I am mulatto, automatically that registers to whomever it concerns as predominantly "black and white", although I am technically more tri-racial than bi-racial (which is an equally vague term as mixed).

 

[orchidgirl]

I've have type 3/4 hair, and it always been somewhat long. But I have struggles with it all my life. Can't say i personally love it. I've found it hard to work with. I never take as good care of my hair as some of you do. Its not as easy as some my feel to have this type of hair. Especially when the market catered to certain types of hair only..in the 80'90's.

 

[goodmorningruby]

Hey Ruby, not knocking how you feel - just giving a different perspective. I take no offense at either term, however, for me personally, "mixed" is a better definition. I am a product of various races, including black, white, east indian and chinese. So, it works for me. As for the term "mulatto", for me, it does not bring to mind a black/white mix. Being from the caribbean & south america, the term mulatto brings to my mind a spanish (spain)/portugese/indian (native)/black mixture. I guess it's just a case of local terminology. Anyhoo, I agree with everything else you said.

First of all, and yes I have to put this out there because it really bothers me, I hate the term "mixed". I identify myself as mulatto, and while some people are offended by the term, I feel it is less obscure than "mixed". Mixed can mean a variety of things. You can be "mixed" with Mongoloid and Indo-aryan, or Melanesian and Mongoloid, or Indo-aryan and Negroid, or Negroid and Melanesian, or Caucasoid and Negroid, or Mongoloid, Melanesian, and Negroid, or Indo-aryan, Negroid and Caucasoid, and so on and so forth, etc etc etc. Mixed can also technically refer to having multiple racial contributors to one hereditary outcome, e.g. Black, White, and Indian (tri-racial), rather than just two. And we all are aware, at least I hope, that our complete lineages are uncommonly "pure".

But when I say I am mulatto, automatically that registers to whomever it concerns as predominantly "black and white", although I am technically more tri-racial than bi-racial (which is an equally vague term as mixed).

You're completely right. Thank you. According to wikipedia the "current usage varies greatly". It is a regional/local terminology thing. As I understand it, mulatto originally came from the Spanish language, and was used derogatorily towards people of Spanish and African ancestry in colonial Latin America; this is where I can see someone taking offense, but again, it applies differently by region and local terminology.

Anyway, I fear hi-jacking the thread, so... ...moving forward.

 

[Miss AJ]

It's no more or less scientific than the rest of the polls on this forum which I used for comparison.

Yes there are plenty of fully black people with type 3 hair. (No where did I deny that) Yet, the majority on this board have type 4 hair.

Yes there are plenty of biracial people with type 4 hair. (no where did I deny that either) Yet, the poll here is 50:50

Lys

Your stats are skewed simply because every "fully" black and biracial human being is not a member of this board. It's no more common for a biracial person to have type 3 hair than it is for "fully" black folks to have type 3 hair. My niece is the product of 2 black parents and has 3b hair. All 3 of my biracial friends are type 4, 2 are 4B and 1 is 4A. If the gene is dominant then that's what hair type you get, not because your mother/father is black or white. A few white folks have type 4 hair naturally too.