you said your were gonna come back and elaborate! lol
Lol!! You are correct, I'm very sorry. I've been poppin in and out. I have copied and pasted my response to someone who asked for assistance using Ayurveda and what purpose the oils served and why I do a double tea rinse. It will give you clearer understanding what I meant by adding the Shikakai to the mix not giving maximum moisture.
"No problem I don't mind. The oils serve 2 purposes. Number one as a way of reaping the benefits of the herbs without doing a whole lot of extra work for those who don't care to use the teas and the pastes.
The second thing is to form a protective barrier between the hair and the teas/pastes. I do not rinse the oils from my hair before tea rinsing. I do it on dry peroiled hair.
As far as me dcing on top of the tea, it's because I prefer to do a double tea rinse.
I will say this method is not for everyone. The reason I choose to do it this way is because some of the powders are for cleansing and some are for moisture and conditioning. All of them strengthen.
Now the general rule is
most ppl use the cleansing powders cut with the moisturizing powders. To lessen the drying effects. For example most ppl will use 1 part Shikakai 1 part Amla and 1 part Bhringraj/Maka.
They do this on dry oiled hair as a tea or paste. The problem is at some point the powders start to cancel each other out. In other words they are not getting the full benefit from either buy mixing them together. But hey, to each his own...
I came up with the idea of using the cleansing tea first 1 part Shikakai and 2 parts Amla. Shikakai , Neem, Amla, and Aritha are drying to the hair AND WILL STRIP IT. For this reason I don't leave it on longer than 15 to 20 mins. tops.
Now for the second tea. I
rinse out the cleansing tea. There is no need to reapply oil at this point Because believe it or not there is still a trace of it in my hair, usually because I oil VERY heavy before tea rinsing. And also because I'm going in with the moisturizing teas along with cond. on top.
I usually rinse with Bhrami, Maka/Bhringraj, Hibiscus, Fenugreek tea. Keep in mind ALL of these leave the hair SUPER soft and moist. I wring out my hair gently towel any excessive wetness, then slather with a MOISTURIZING cond. Don't use your protein cond. when tea rinsing, because the tea acts as a protein and your hair will be too hard and dry.
I have found when I mix the 2 types of powders together.(Cleansing and moisturizing), I can't leave it on long as I like to maximize the benefits moisture because the dryness from the cleansing powders still takes over. I hate to say it but to me it just makes more sense to do it my way. But don't tell anyone I said that.
It's like you are cleansing first then cond. except it's just with teas instead of shampoo and cond.
This way I get the maximum benefit from each powder. I don't have to worry how long I keep on the second tea because I've used nothing drying.
I usually leave it on for about 2 hours and rinse. Although you can do less time if you choose. OMG my hair is soooo soft I can't keep my hands out of it.
Like I said this method is not for everyone, but when I sit back and read over and over again about how drying the teas are, Shikakai made my hair hard, I tried it and my hair came out too rough,
It's usually because either ppl didn't read first, didn't oil first, tried the first recipe they saw and ran with it, let the paste dry in the hair then tried to manipulate, didn't dilute the teas and they were too dang strong, the list goes on....
Sorry to drag this out, but knowing is half the battle. Once you learn WHAT the herbs do, then that will gauge how long you leave them on.
So in a nutshell. Shorter time on the cleaning herbs 15 to 20 mins. although some ppl say overnight because they have cut it. I say more power to them. Do what works for you.
And longer with the moisturizing herbs. I have gone up to 4 hours. I don't go longer because my get to soft. I hope this helped clear up any questions you may have had, Feel free to pm if you need more info...
Flow."