Nice & Wavy
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That song was beautiful.....wow.
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loolalooh
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So, after stumbling upon the song "Make Me Over", I decided to look up the artist of the song. His name was Tonex. This led me to Google, and I found out that this man, a former gospel singer and preacher, is now a secular artist and homosexual. The transition happened after him and his wife divorced, his father died, and then mother died.
Then I thought to myself? I, and I'm sure, many of us can relate. When such ordeals like these enter our lives, one after the other, we can get thrown off spiritually. It saddened me to see a man once so confident in the Lord now confused spiritually.
What happens when a person finds the world more "comforting" than the Lord? What has to happen for that person to return to the Lord? Can that person ever return to the Lord?
Then I thought to myself? I, and I'm sure, many of us can relate. When such ordeals like these enter our lives, one after the other, we can get thrown off spiritually. It saddened me to see a man once so confident in the Lord now confused spiritually.
What happens when a person finds the world more "comforting" than the Lord? What has to happen for that person to return to the Lord? Can that person ever return to the Lord?
Guitarhero
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I'm standing, I will not be moved! If this is to come to pass, then I claim it right here and now. G-d didn't give me these talents to waste them for nothing.
LifeafterLHCF
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When I pray I don't think God will answer me because I'm not this pretty little christian who spouts out scripture to everything she hears.I'm not this cute perfect little bundle that sings hymns when she is blue. This week something happened and I prayed once and then again this morning. My answer came this afternoon.Being sensitive to God's prompting is so profound for me. It still hurts a bit to know I still have a lot of growing to do in way of men and life but at least my God didn't let me continue foolishly. I know what I desire in a man and I just can't compromise.I know what I want for my life and my walk and I just can't compromise in order to just get by.It will hurt will growing like when you break a bone and it has to heal over it will hurt as it fixes its self but once it's repaired it will be refortified and stronger.My heart is starting to heal its self from all the love lost and lack in my life. The beauty of me is starting to finally be seen by me as I never believed God made me any way near beautiful. I am not referring to aesthetic because I a former mua can make me look nice easy, but I mean the beauty of my own heart and soul. I thought I was just a dark pathetic thing that is suppose to live life subserviently. I just needed a place to place my thoughts about this journey. I don't seek support anymore from people here or anywhere as this journey is a personal one with no one can assist.
@loollalooh....
There's a video in an earlier thread of his interview with 'some journal woman'... forgot her name. Anyhoo, in the thread he says that he's waiting to see what God is going to do about his situation.
I just want to 'shake that mess out of him...' If I say 'slap', I'll be accused of inciting violence.
However, I'm not Tracey Morgan or Roland Martin. The gay agenda doesn't scare me. The price of stardom isn't worth it if one has to fear being Righteous.
loolalooh
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@loollalooh....
There's a video in an earlier thread of his interview with 'some journal woman'... forgot her name. Anyhoo, in the thread he says that he's waiting to see what God is going to do about his situation.
I just want to 'shake that mess out of him...' If I say 'slap', I'll be accused of inciting violence.
However, I'm not Tracey Morgan or Roland Martin. The gay agenda doesn't scare me. The price of stardom isn't worth it if one has to fear being Righteous.
Oh, there was a thread about it? I'll see if I can dig it up. It's such a sad situation.
Nice & Wavy
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It's so funny how controversial threads blow up here, but a thread about the love of God, or prayer, or who wants to fast?, or let's pray for the saints across the world, or....and I can go on and on and on...don't get but maybe a few posts in them.
Guess those are boring threads.
Just venting......
carry on.
Guess those are boring threads.
Just venting......
carry on.
Laela
Sidestepping the "lynch mob"
True, I have noticed that all over, too bad it's the same over here.
Praise God for the 'discerning'... it is a gift. With this gift you can 'change' an outcome by prayer/fasting for this person.
I remember not liking some things in life that God was showing me, however, I thank God that He did, for I was able to be 'spare' that shock and drama that comes from not knowing ahead of the time. God always reveals what 'one' is hiding and needs to be 'uncovered' to protect those involved.
Stay strong...
I think it was a thread by Alicialynn, entitled "I'm tired of this...". I'm drawing a 'blank' here... I'm sorry 'Lady Loolalooh'
TraciChanel
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loolalooh and Shimmie,
That song "Make Me Over" truly touched me. The words are so beautiful and I can relate to what he's saying in the song, and the emotional aspects of the song. But, for some reason, maybe thee months ago I was playing it and something told me to Google this man, and that's how I found out about his lifestyle change. I was shocked. Now, I just don't feel right listening to that song. Maybe that's silly, because it's the words not the person...but still, I feel kinda weird listening to it.
I hope Tonex will see his way through this and get on the right path. He seems very misguided.
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That song "Make Me Over" truly touched me. The words are so beautiful and I can relate to what he's saying in the song, and the emotional aspects of the song. But, for some reason, maybe thee months ago I was playing it and something told me to Google this man, and that's how I found out about his lifestyle change. I was shocked. Now, I just don't feel right listening to that song. Maybe that's silly, because it's the words not the person...but still, I feel kinda weird listening to it.
I hope Tonex will see his way through this and get on the right path. He seems very misguided. Shimmie said:@loollalooh....
There's a video in an earlier thread of his interview with 'some journal woman'... forgot her name. Anyhoo, in the thread he says that he's waiting to see what God is going to do about his situation.
I just want to 'shake that mess out of him...' If I say 'slap', I'll be accused of inciting violence.
However, I'm not Tracey Morgan or Roland Martin. The gay agenda doesn't scare me. The price of stardom isn't worth it if one has to fear being Righteous.
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Iwanthealthyhair67
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loolalooh
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I think it was a thread by Alicialynn, entitled "I'm tired of this...". I'm drawing a 'blank' here... I'm sorry 'Lady Loolalooh'
It's okay. The LHCF "search" feature found numerous threads, so I had tons to read last night. Such a sad situation.
loolalooh and Shimmie,
That song "Make Me Over" truly touched me. The words are so beautiful and I can relate to what he's saying in the song, and the emotional aspects of the song. But, for some reason, maybe thee months ago I was playing it and something told me to Google this man, and that's how I found out about his lifestyle change. I was shocked. Now, I just don't feel right listening to that song. Maybe that's silly, because it's the words not the person...but still, I feel kinda weird listening to it.
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My sentiments exactly. That song was getting ready to go on my "repeat" list until after Google. I continued to play it afterwards, but it doesn't feel the same. For me, the words lost some of their meaning because of where he is at right now. It'd be different if that were his past. Additionally, part of me wonders about the place he was in when singing that song. Ah well. I'll try listening to it a couple more times, but I don't know.
TraciChanel
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loolalooh said:
Isn't it interesting how we were both led to Google him? I don't think that was coincidence.
I'll pray for him. For someone to go through what he did losing his loved ones; divorce, etc. - that has to be painful. I don't think he's a lost cause, though.Sent from my iPhone using LHCF
VictoriousBrownFlower
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Its all a battle in my mind. I know it is but I can't help being swayed by my emotions. My emotions get the better of me everytime but I press on. I know that I've overcome my emotions before and I can do it again. As long as I stay with god. I'm at the right hand of the father and he would never let me down. Even though I think I will always be in fear. I wont!!! I just have to remember that.
Iwanthealthyhair67
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@GM - I'm saying this as lovingly as I know how, I hope that it is conveyed in this post Lord knows I am not the most eloquent in the bunch so please pray for me in this area...
I can’t agree that our walk is only a ‘personal’ one, no man is an island and we all need each other, we are of the body of Christ and we are family, here to assist, love, uplift, edify, support, encourage, comfort and also to provoke each other to good works.
If you don’t ask for help or refuse help when it’s offered your cutting yourself off from the body.
I remember a few years ago, my car insurance was due and around that same time my pastor asked; “do you need anything, what can we do for you”?
Being Miss independent, I’m every woman as I was back then, I told her no, I didn’t need anything (how did I know that wasn’t God right there giving me the assistant that I needed, he’s not coming back to earth to help us he uses people), child as the days grew closer to my insurance due date I didn’t see any ‘extras’ in sight and there was no one that I could borrow the money from, although I tried and I certainly couldn’t and would not drive an uninsured vehicle.
After much toiling, calculating, adding, subtracting and pondering I knew what I had do and my chest was tight at the thought, but I sucked up my pride went to my pastor for the money I could barely get the words out cause I could hardly breathe, I got the money and a tongue lashing about my pride …
I say all this to say this, we do need each other, each joint supplies the other.
Sorry I’m one of those persons who likes to reference scripture, it reminds us of the promises He has for us...
1 Cor 12:24-26
24 but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, 25 that there should be no schism in
the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. 26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.
Romans 12
5 so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.
I can’t agree that our walk is only a ‘personal’ one, no man is an island and we all need each other, we are of the body of Christ and we are family, here to assist, love, uplift, edify, support, encourage, comfort and also to provoke each other to good works.
If you don’t ask for help or refuse help when it’s offered your cutting yourself off from the body.
I remember a few years ago, my car insurance was due and around that same time my pastor asked; “do you need anything, what can we do for you”?
Being Miss independent, I’m every woman as I was back then, I told her no, I didn’t need anything (how did I know that wasn’t God right there giving me the assistant that I needed, he’s not coming back to earth to help us he uses people), child as the days grew closer to my insurance due date I didn’t see any ‘extras’ in sight and there was no one that I could borrow the money from, although I tried and I certainly couldn’t and would not drive an uninsured vehicle.
After much toiling, calculating, adding, subtracting and pondering I knew what I had do and my chest was tight at the thought, but I sucked up my pride went to my pastor for the money I could barely get the words out cause I could hardly breathe, I got the money and a tongue lashing about my pride …
I say all this to say this, we do need each other, each joint supplies the other.
Sorry I’m one of those persons who likes to reference scripture, it reminds us of the promises He has for us...
1 Cor 12:24-26
24 but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, 25 that there should be no schism in
the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. 26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.
Romans 12
5 so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.
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loolalooh and Shimmie,
That song "Make Me Over" truly touched me. The words are so beautiful and I can relate to what he's saying in the song, and the emotional aspects of the song. But, for some reason, maybe thee months ago I was playing it and something told me to Google this man, and that's how I found out about his lifestyle change. I was shocked. Now, I just don't feel right listening to that song. Maybe that's silly, because it's the words not the person...but still, I feel kinda weird listening to it.
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After I posted the song's lyrics in the other thread about him, I had the same feeling.
This man, Tonex is crying out for help, but the spirit behind his pain is being poured out among those listening to him sing.
Whlle watching him on YouTube singing, that the 'spirit' behind the song is hypnotic... just watching the people in the audience as they were 'caught up in it' how it was 'trancing' them into another realm.
CAUTION ~ ~ ~ Huge RED Flag ~~~~
They were listening to words which sound right... to music in the melody of 'Love Ballad'... they were being enticed and brought into another place by a differnt spirit giving it entry into those caught up and off guard...
The devil is so SUBTLE... Jeepers Creepers ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
There are so many people who love God and want to 'worship' Him and here's satan coming in to deceive them, while taking them into another place.
I can't help but wonder how many people who get caught up in that song, ended up feeling depressed and not knowing why.
Folks who are gay, have the same testimony. That they don't have peace until their surrender to 'who they are', which is homosexual. They say that the torment in their lives stops as soon as they surrender to being homosexual.
HOWEVER.... that's not so.
What's happening is that satan will not allow them to have peace with God. satan fights and torments and wrestles with them with the full intent of them giving up in the battle. As soon as the person 'moves away' from God and surrenders to satan (i.e. the homosexual spirit), then satan stops tormenting them. This is where the deception lies. A person who struggles with homosexuality is not struggling with God, instead, it is the devil struggling with them to keep them in that sinful lifestyle.
Tonex without realzing it was revealing and admitting this in that interview. What Tonex did not admit was that it was satan struggling against him, not Tonex struggling to be right with God. Tonex shared that there were many who prayed and tried to cast the devil out of him and it didn't work. Well, it's Tonex who has to walk away from satan and not look back, but to keep it moving.
WHOOOAAA.... ! ! ! that's why God told Lot and 'em' to not look back as they were leaving Sodom and Gomorrah. Looking back keeps them in bondage to the sin of homosexuality. God HAD to make Lot's wife into a pillar of salt, reminding folks that they can not move forward looking back.
Where's Iwanthealthyhair67 and sidney... Nice & Wavy and Laela Come read this and reflect on it for me....
TraciChanel, Health&hair28, please comment.
Please tell me what you think regarding the revelation I have on Tonex's song. I'm listening...
loolalooh and TraciChanel...
Remember Luther Vandross ? As nice as his voice was, do you know that I could never play his songs like everyone else?
I liked him and thought he was a very nice guy; I felt very sad when he passed away, yet to this very day, I cannot 'listen' to his singing. There's a 'wall' there... I just don't want to hear him sing.
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Rainbow Dash
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After I posted the song's lyrics in the other thread about him, I had the same feeling.
This man, Tonex is crying out for help, but the spirit behind his pain is being poured out among those listening to him sing.
Whlle watching him on YouTube singing, that the 'spirit' behind the song is hypnotic... just watching the people in the audience as they were 'caught up in it' how it was 'trancing' them into another realm.
CAUTION ~ ~ ~ Huge RED Flag ~~~~
They were listening to words which sound right... to music in the melody of 'Love Ballad'... they were being enticed and brought into another place by a differnt spirit giving it entry into those caught up and off guard...
The devil is so SUBTLE... Jeepers Creepers ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
There are so many people who love God and want to 'worship' Him and here's satan coming in to deceive them, while taking them into another place.
I can't help but wonder how many people who get caught up in that song, ended up feeling depressed and not knowing why.
Folks who are gay, have the same testimony. That they don't have peace until their surrender to 'who they are', which is homosexual. They say that the torment in their lives stops as soon as they surrender to being homosexual.
HOWEVER.... that's not so.
What's happening is that satan will not allow them to have peace with God. satan fights and torments and wrestles with them with the full intent of them giving up in the battle. As soon as the person 'moves away' from God and surrenders to satan (i.e. the homosexual spirit), then satan stops tormenting them. This is where the deception lies. A person who struggles with homosexuality is not struggling with God, instead, it is the devil struggling with them to keep them in that sinful lifestyle.
Tonex without realzing it was revealing and admitting this in that interview. What Tonex did not admit was that it was satan struggling against him, not Tonex struggling to be right with God. Tonex shared that there were many who prayed and tried to cast the devil out of him and it didn't work. Well, it's Tonex who has to walk away from satan and not look back, but to keep it moving.
WHOOOAAA.... ! ! ! that's why God told Lot and 'em' to not look back as they were leaving Sodom and Gomorrah. Looking back keeps them in bondage to the sin of homosexuality. God HAD to make Lot's wife into a pillar of salt, reminding folks that they can not move forward looking back.
Lord Jesus!!..at the bolded. Shimmie girl that right there hit me. They struggle when they are trying to get free in Christ but when they are in sin, the enemy has no need to bother them, he already has them. This right here needs to be taught in deliverance classes.
This is why the bible says submit to God and resist the devil and he shall flee. This has to happen on a daily basis to stay free. We have to submit to God daily!!
God is not allowing us to be ignorant of the enemy's devices.
It's a false 'peace' that gays have when they say that they are 'free' when they have 'outted' themselves, admitting they are gay and want to stay that way. What they want is to be free from the torment. However the Bible is clear, satan is the tormentor and he is a master at it.
loolalooh
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After I posted the song's lyrics in the other thread about him, I had the same feeling.
This man, Tonex is crying out for help, but the spirit behind his pain is being poured out among those listening to him sing.
Whlle watching him on YouTube singing, that the 'spirit' behind the song is hypnotic... just watching the people in the audience as they were 'caught up in it' how it was 'trancing' them into another realm.
CAUTION ~ ~ ~ Huge RED Flag ~~~~
They were listening to words which sound right... to music in the melody of 'Love Ballad'... they were being enticed and brought into another place by a differnt spirit giving it entry into those caught up and off guard...
The devil is so SUBTLE... Jeepers Creepers ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
There are so many people who love God and want to 'worship' Him and here's satan coming in to deceive them, while taking them into another place.
I can't help but wonder how many people who get caught up in that song, ended up feeling depressed and not knowing why.
Folks who are gay, have the same testimony. That they don't have peace until their surrender to 'who they are', which is homosexual. They say that the torment in their lives stops as soon as they surrender to being homosexual.
HOWEVER.... that's not so.
What's happening is that satan will not allow them to have peace with God. satan fights and torments and wrestles with them with the full intent of them giving up in the battle. As soon as the person 'moves away' from God and surrenders to satan (i.e. the homosexual spirit), then satan stops tormenting them. This is where the deception lies. A person who struggles with homosexuality is not struggling with God, instead, it is the devil struggling with them to keep them in that sinful lifestyle.
Tonex without realzing it was revealing and admitting this in that interview. What Tonex did not admit was that it was satan struggling against him, not Tonex struggling to be right with God. Tonex shared that there were many who prayed and tried to cast the devil out of him and it didn't work. Well, it's Tonex who has to walk away from satan and not look back, but to keep it moving.
WHOOOAAA.... ! ! ! that's why God told Lot and 'em' to not look back as they were leaving Sodom and Gomorrah. Looking back keeps them in bondage to the sin of homosexuality. God HAD to make Lot's wife into a pillar of salt, reminding folks that they can not move forward looking back.
Where's Iwanthealthyhair67 and sidney... Nice & Wavy and Laela Come read this and reflect on it for me....
TraciChanel, Health&hair28, please comment.
Please tell me what you think regarding the revelation I have on Tonex's song. I'm listening...
Shimmie, I think you're onto something. I was feeling more depressed after I listened to the song.
The trance. The hynoticism. The song/lyrics are so beautiful, but I was feeling more down after listening to it. When I switched to some other praise music, my mood completely changed. I don't know if that's a reflection of the tempo of the song or the spirit behind the song. You may be onto something. I'm curious to hear what the other ladies say as well.
Shimmie, I think you're onto something. I was feeling more depressed after I listened to the song.
I'm curious to hear what the other ladies say as well.
There are times when we 'sense' something that a person hiding or a burden that they are carrying; Reminds me of when sometimes people are Smiling on the outside, crying on the inside.
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