**2010 Random Christian Thoughts Thread**

We've discussed perfecting oneself in this christian walk various times and I've always thought something was a little off in the understanding. So today, I see a quote someone had up in their office at the church and it hit me, this is exactly what I wanted to say:


Perfection is wholeness, not flawlessness


That says it completely for me. It's how you learn the various aspects of "shalom," "completeness" that He teaches us as He came to give life more abundantly. For example, if one masters his finances, his formal charitable giving, tithing and everything else regarding stewardship but has not mastered compassion, it's flawlessness he's aiming for. Some virtues outweigh others.
 
Okay update...lingering can be different we are talking about it again. So I will update it...my mom was really tired and now that she's awake we are really having a convo about it
 
Linger in Habakkuk is saying it's coming but only on God's time, stay in prayer, don't give up, don't start doing wrong. God's got cha! (Her words) He's already worked it out, not a day, not a year, whatever he is talking about is when it's supposed to be there is no timetable (well none we can see). Delay is that it won't take longer then it needs to...the slowness of things happening is the linger, the on time part is the lack of delay. Like if traffic delays you it makes everything take longer then it should, but if it won't delay it won't take longer, but the linger is that it is slow. At least to us


So. Okay that plus the morning show this morning I guess I get it just don't give up...I'd still like a calendar though. (ETA) This is how I know I have no patience! Why do I have to do a patience test anyway? I mean I shouldn't whine, but I really really really really really hate this. I can almost deal with anything but waiting. I mean I'm thankful everytime I get all upset I get told to wait and I'm happy I have an answer but this is ANNOYING.


Eta: She also told me to read it in other translations/versions just for context purposes. I was using NIV....I really only use NIV
 
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Linger in Habakkuk is saying it's coming but only on God's time, stay in prayer, don't give up, don't start doing wrong. God's got cha! (Her words) He's already worked it out, not a day, not a year, whatever he is talking about is when it's supposed to be there is no timetable (well none we can see). Delay is that it won't take longer then it needs to...the slowness of things happening is the linger, the on time part is the lack of delay. Like if traffic delays you it makes everything take longer then it should, but if it won't delay it won't take longer, but the linger is that it is slow. At least to us
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Thank you for sharing. I am definitely seeing a theme with Christians I have been talking to and reading of God's appointed time. Seeing your verse from Habakuk sparked me to look up some commentaries.

John Wesley said:
[2] And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.


Upon tables — What was of publick concern, and therefore to be published, was anciently written or engraven upon tables, smooth stones, or wood, and then hung up in a publick place to be read.
May run — That none may need to stop, but every one may plainly and clearly discern what is written.
[3] For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry.

At the end — When the period appointed of God shall come.
Shall speak — Be accomplished, and not disappoint your expectation.
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Charles Spurgeon said:
“For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry.” (Habakkuk 2:3)
Mercy may seem slow, but it is sure. The Lord in unfailing wisdom has appointed a time for the outgoings of His gracious power, and God’s time is the best time. We are in a hurry; the vision of the blessings excites our desire and hastens our longings; but the Lord will keep His appointments. He never is before His time; He never is behind.

God’s word is here spoken of as a living thing which will speak and will come. It is never a dead letter, as we are tempted to fear when we have long watched for its fulfillment. The living word is on the way from the living God, and though it may seem to linger, it is not in reality doing so. God’s train is not behind time. It is only a matter of patience, and we shall soon see for ourselves the faithfulness of the Lord. No promise of His shall fail; “it will not lie.” No promise of His will be lost in silence; “it shall speak.” What comfort it will speak to the believing ear! No promise of His shall need to be renewed like a bill which could not be paid on the day in which it fell due-”it will not tarry.”

Come, my soul, canst thou not wait for thy God? Rest in Him and be still in unutterable peacefulness.

Charles Spurgeon
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Trials and troubles come into our lives. BUt we are quick to always blame the Advesary. but do we ever stop to ask YHWH if this is a trial HE sent to grow/test us or if its a consequence of our own actions
 
If this aint the creepiest verse in the bible I don't know what is: “Why do the nations rage? Why do the people waste their time with futile plans? The kings of the earth prepare for battle; the rulers plot together against the Lord and against His Anointed One. ‘Let us break their chains,’ they cry. ‘And free ourselves from this slavery.’ But the one who rules in heaven laughs. The Lord scoffs at them.” Psalm 2:1-4 (NLT).
And look @ this:http://www.raptureready.com/featured/gillette/transhuman.html
 
luthiengirlie said:
Trials and troubles come into our lives. BUt we are quick to always blame the Advesary. but do we ever stop to ask YHWH if this is a trial HE sent to grow/test us or if its a consequence of our own actions
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I was raised to see everything as a test, pleasant or not. I understand that better now than I ever did back then.

luthiengirlie said:
If this aint the creepiest verse in the bible I don't know what is: “Why do the nations rage? Why do the people waste their time with futile plans? The kings of the earth prepare for battle; the rulers plot together against the Lord and against His Anointed One. ‘Let us break their chains,’ they cry. ‘And free ourselves from this slavery.’ But the one who rules in heaven laughs. The Lord scoffs at them.” Psalm 2:1-4 (NLT).
And look @ this:http://www.raptureready.com/featured/gillette/transhuman.html
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Not creepy, but amusing because people think God does not have a sense of humor. He Who invented emotions also has emotions.
 
Nymphe said:
I was raised to see everything as a test, pleasant or not. I understand that better now than I ever did back then.

Not creepy, but amusing because people think God does not have a sense of humor. He Who invented emotions also has emotions.
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Oh. Its Not God's emotion I'm creeped out about.. Nope. I know He'll be lookin like..Human PUHLEEZE! And doin some eye rollin when they pull this. The creepy part is that humanity is willin to go THAT far! Doesn't suprise me but it STRONGLY unsettles me. Be Neo or the Matrix? Red pill or blue pill. God or hell. Its THAT serious
 
luthiengirlie said:
Oh. Its Not God's emotion I'm creeped out about.. Nope. I know He'll be lookin like..Human PUHLEEZE! And doin some eye rollin when they pull this. The creepy part is that humanity is willin to go THAT far! Doesn't suprise me but it STRONGLY unsettles me. Be Neo or the Matrix? Red pill or blue pill. God or hell. Its THAT serious
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What is that verse saying?
 
SND411 said:
What is that verse saying?
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- To put it VERY mildly. Humanity is gonna get to the point where they will be able to go to the heavens and rebel against Yahushua. That's what that verse is saying. Pretty much sums what Revelations is about. Choose to rebel against God, Himself or choosing to be human and serve Him and risk death.
 
It's so refreshing to personally know people who actually BELIEVE God and take Him at His Word.

The blinded regain their sight, the sick are healed. This is still happening today. Glory be to God!
 
There's a canon lawyer of the church who I don't trust to give me a full answer. Why? Because it is deplete of knowledge of the very culture regarding the cultural practice I'm asking about as to whether it's syncretism or not, allowable or not?

So now I have to go seek somebody else I don't know nor where to find him about it, hoping that I am provided with a similar answer that I found on the Net regarding the practice. It's like, we weren't overtly raised in it and nobody up here practices it anymore...so then, who to ask? Only my mother's side is catholic. Shrugs. Who I'm going to ask? I don't even have the name of the interviewed. And only my maternal uncles knowit...but they live very far away and are sickly now. Geez! I'm practically the only one trying to get the family to look at it again. God knows, we need that healing.
 
Im so kicking myself for not being perfect in dealing with a finacial matter..now I have to wait even longer for my refund..I feel so stupid God Im trying my best to not allow the enemy to make me go insane while waiting for this money..I just hate being without feeling so helpless..I pray all the ladies on this site will continue to dig deeper in God and allow God to teach you in your life..
 
Volver_Alma_Gitana said:
There's a canon lawyer of the church who I don't trust to give me a full answer. Why? Because it is deplete of knowledge of the very culture regarding the cultural practice I'm asking about as to whether it's syncretism or not, allowable or not?

So now I have to go seek somebody else I don't know nor where to find him about it, hoping that I am provided with a similar answer that I found on the Net regarding the practice. It's like, we weren't overtly raised in it and nobody up here practices it anymore...so then, who to ask? Only my mother's side is catholic. Shrugs. Who I'm going to ask? I don't even have the name of the interviewed. And only my maternal uncles knowit...but they live very far away and are sickly now. Geez! I'm practically the only one trying to get the family to look at it again. God knows, we need that healing.
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What's the practice?
 
GoddessMaker said:
Im so kicking myself for not being perfect in dealing with a finacial matter..now I have to wait even longer for my refund..I feel so stupid God Im trying my best to not allow the enemy to make me go insane while waiting for this money..I just hate being without feeling so helpless..I pray all the ladies on this site will continue to dig deeper in God and allow God to teach you in your life..
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We are, encouraged by your transparent emotions and example of perseverance. :yep:
 
Volver_Alma_Gitana said:
Sweat lodge. It definitely involves God but he thinks it'll send a wrong message to others. Um, I'm not aiming for others, I'm aiming for completeness in myself :lachen:
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Lady I like you tons. So forgive my rudeness for being a butt-in but. ASK YHWH yourself. Man has an opinion about ERRYDANG under di sun. So. If you feel peace n it flows do. It. If you hear a no..don't! Simple!
 
luthiengirlie said:
Lady I like you tons. So forgive my rudeness for being a butt-in but. ASK YHWH yourself. Man has an opinion about ERRYDANG under di sun. So. If you feel peace n it flows do. It. If you hear a no..don't! Simple!
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I don't wanna put myself at odds with my church. It's a serious issue. I just need to find a priest who knows what he's freaking talking about culturally to say "yes" or "no" and why. I can't take an answer from somebody who doesn't even know squat lol! I'm leaning more towards "yes" myself....but I don't wanna put myself at odds. It's just how it is. But thanks. Cuz this white man stuff ain't quite cutting it 100% for me. It's a long story.:nono: :lachen:
 
Volver_Alma_Gitana said:
I don't wanna put myself at odds with my church. It's a serious issue. I just need to find a priest who knows what he's freaking talking about culturally to say "yes" or "no" and why. I can't take an answer from somebody who doesn't even know squat lol! I'm leaning more towards "yes" myself....but I don't wanna put myself at odds. It's just how it is. But thanks. Cuz this white man stuff ain't quite cutting it 100% for me. It's a long story.:nono: :lachen:
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I hear you. I will pray that YHWH Leads you to the right person and explain EXCATLY what He desires of you concerning this. He understands the spiritual connotations of things far better than you or I ever will
 
O Adonai, please teach me what's important to intercede for and what's not cuz I wanna help errybody n dey mama. Di di.

Seriously me not wan do do much do not right it. Me need HELP YOUR!
 
An FB Friend posted this today.. just had to share it.. :)

"If you ever allow anyone to place a ceiling over your head, in existence, thought or action every action you do from that point on: spiritually, mentally and physically will slowly build walls that will eventually reach that ceiling,.....& therefore entomb and trap you into their shortsighted, selfish & disgusting cell of bondage...."

~SELAH~
 
You are so beautiful and loving and POWERFUL YHWH. ONLY YOU could reduce me to tears and I'm okay with it. Its time for me to step aside and let YOU do.

Over the mountains and sea your river runs with love for me. I will open up my heart and let the HEALER set me free. I'm so happy to be in the Truth and I will daily lift my hands and I will sing of Your love forever.


Show Yourself Shaddai, Show Yourself Strong, Show Yourself Elohim in the mist of the storm. In times of trouble Adonai GIVE me a song, Show yourself mighy, Show yourself strong
 
People mention Psalm 91 but do not understand the full implications of it. It means if you are under His care and the area you are in is under judgment, you will see others, even friends and family, suffer and die all around you. Are people prepare to face that?
 
Says YHWH My soul cries out as stated in scripture: PLEASE DON'T ABANDON ME, THE WORK OF YOUR HANDS. But You YHWH answer me in love,"But I who began a good work in you,will complete it until the day of Yahushua"
 
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