Wash And Go, To Grow And To Dazzle 2020 Challenge

GettingKinky said:
The Briogeo combo worked out better than I expected. My day 1 hair is very full, but I can’t imagine this lasting more than 2 days.
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Already on day 2 my hair is requiring major surgery to look decent. My hair didn’t retain moisture very well and doesn’t want to come down from my overnight pineapple.

I’m not sure why Instagram stylists are so anti Shea moisture and wetline gel. They give me great results (except day 1)
 
GettingKinky said:
Already on day 2 my hair is requiring major surgery to look decent. My hair didn’t retain moisture very well and doesn’t want to come down from my overnight pineapple.

I’m not sure why Instagram stylists are so anti Shea moisture and wetline gel. They give me great results (except day 1)
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Have you ever tried steaming your hair to refresh @GettingKinky ?
 
@LynnieB
I’m what ways did your wash n go get better after you started following the advice of @iamblackgirlcurls?

Did it take time for your hair to adjust to the new products or was the improvement immediate?

I tried “better” products over the weekend and I wasn’t happy with the result, I’m not sure if I need to be more patient or if the products I used just aren’t right for me.
 
GettingKinky said:
I don’t think my hair is low po, although, I don’t know my porosity for sure.

I just think that squishing does 2 things

- makes sure I use enough water and that my hair is fully wet.

-spreads the conditioner and makes sure it gets on all the strands.

This site shows microscope images of conditioner coverage on hair.

http://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/2018/08/conditioning-technique-squish-to.html?m=1
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Nice photos in there, and very informative. What's the recommended duration of the technique?
 
Alma Petra said:
Nice photos in there, and very informative. What's the recommended duration of the technique?
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I’ve never seen a recommended duration for the technique. I don’t spend that long doing it. Maybe a few minutes to do my whole head. By that point my hair has stopped dripping and I feel like it’s saturated.
 
GettingKinky said:
I’ve never seen a recommended duration for the technique. I don’t spend that long doing it. Maybe a few minutes to do my whole head. By that point my hair has stopped dripping and I feel like it’s saturated.
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I'm going to try this method today to see if it will add anything to my hair. I feel like I usually do get my hair really wet though when I wash. My hair is high po I think and water just soaks in. It doesn't sit on top of my hair at all. Unfortunately because it's high po, when it dries, water evaporates all the way out, leaving the hair dry at the end. I think my struggle for decent 2nd day hair is mostly because no matter what I wear to bed, my hair just wakes up dry in the morning. This is the reason why when I wash and go and style at night, I do not dry my hair before going to bed. I keep it wet and dry it in the morning so that I may end up with moisturised hair for the new day.
 
Alma Petra said:
I'm going to try this method today to see if it will add anything to my hair. I feel like I usually do get my hair really wet though when I wash. My hair is high po I think and water just soaks in. It doesn't sit on top of my hair at all. Unfortunately because it's high po, when it dries, water evaporates all the way out, leaving the hair dry at the end. I think my struggle for decent 2nd day hair is mostly because no matter what I wear to bed, my hair just wakes up dry in the morning. This is the reason why when I wash and go and style at night, I do not dry my hair before going to bed. I keep it wet and dry it in the morning so that I may end up with moisturised hair for the new day.
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Do you use gel as your styler? I find that gel seems to hold the moisture in my hair really well for at least a few days.
 
GettingKinky said:
Do you use gel as your styler? I find that gel seems to hold the moisture in my hair really well for at least a few days.
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I always do. But my hair is naturally very dry. I most often use UFD Curly Magic as a part of my curl definer combo topped up with Wet Line Xtreme for hold. I agree that gel helps to lock moisture in. Though if I use too much, the gel crunch can mimick dry hair. There are also some gels that I find to be drying.
 
GettingKinky said:
@LynnieB
I’m what ways did your wash n go get better after you started following the advice of @iamblackgirlcurls?

Did it take time for your hair to adjust to the new products or was the improvement immediate?

I tried “better” products over the weekend and I wasn’t happy with the result, I’m not sure if I need to be more patient or if the products I used just aren’t right for me.
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It took about 3 months for it all to come together and for my hair to reach optimum hydration. It just got better and better. The secret to what they use in salon is the HOW.

I will say that their idea of better products and *our* idea of better products can be 2 completely different animals. They recommend what they use in salon and know what theyre doing with them.

With very few exceptions(color, compromised cuticle, state of hydration or dehydration), they use the same products and technique on everyone depending on each persons hair's essential elements.

There's quite a few videos on their Facebook page that show how they use products. It certainly wasn't what I was used to. Let me see If I can link some here.

From Black Girl Curls LIVE on Facebook:
 
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yamilee21 said:
@LynnieB Your wash & go pictures are gorgeous! Makes me want to give the wash & go thing yet another try, even though I have learned my lesson, :lol:. Is your hair still hip/tailbone length stretched?
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Nope, I got a black girl's version of a Devacut in February so some pieces are longer or shorter than others, just not drastic. I think I'm just above waist length if I were to straighten it.

I will honestly admit I have been living my best life wearing it curly. Washngo is so easy and the maintenence cuts keep everything together and aggravation free. No worries about humidity, fog, wind LOL. I wish I could have learned how to manage my hair like this much earlier in my natural life.

Washngo is a curlset and misunderstood. There is a process. It is easy and hair is extremely healthy.

Try it again!!!
 
@LynnieB I agree that the wash n go is a game changer. It’s quick and easy to do and it fits my lifestyle perfectly.

I have two last things I need to figure out
- my staple products
- The right person for my haircuts. I’m not 100% sold on the woman who did my Deva cut.
 
GettingKinky said:
@LynnieB I agree that the wash n go is a game changer. It’s quick and easy to do and it fits my lifestyle perfectly.

I have two last things I need to figure out
- my staple products
- The right person for my haircuts. I’m not 100% sold on the woman who did my Deva cut.
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My daughter and I traveled to Georgia to have our haircut by Aeleise (@hairloveart, co-owner of BGC) so we would feel comfortable with this new experience but have since found a couple stylists closer to where we live. Follow #iamblackgirlcurls on Instagram then follow some of the stylists who follow them, they all share similar styles, methods and oftentimes products. They all share a love of tighter curls!

I can tell you from cruising around that you use Kinky curly come clean. How often? We refer to it as a clarifying shampoo because it's so strong. If you are using mostly botanical products, shampoo, conditioner and stylers, it is actually TOO cleansing and a less strong shampoo is needed. Hth.

Just subscribe to their Digial Salon for a month then leave? For me it was $25 well spent. It's ALOT of info and science behind it all and way more than I could explain easily. They can it break it all down AND they have the receipts all over their FB and Instgram pages to back up what they say! #iamblackgirlcurls(both of them) #hairloveart(Aeleise) #chocolatecurlsbeauty(Aisha)

https://www.blackcurlmagic.com/

For stylists they've trained but there are other extremely good ones out there.

http://www.blackcurlmagic.com/stylist-directory/
 
Thanks @LynnieB

I’ve been following them on Instagram for awhile. I spent hours reading most of their posts. I have found a few stylist that they trained within a couple of hours of me.

I do use KC come clean every time I wash, which is about 2x a week, but I also use wetline gel which I know they call plastic.

I think I’ll just go ahead and subscribe for a month. Then I can decide if I’m going to ditch SM and wetline and switch to all botanical products.
 
I am very curious too to learn some of the products they recommend as a shampoo and conditioner duo.

@GettingKinky do you think that the KCC Clean has resulted in any excessive dryness in your hair?

I personally find that Wetline gel is very easy to wash out of my hair. For a few months I have now been water washing only and this gel has not caused me any problems at all. I usually reach out for a dedicated cowash when I experiment with something else that proves to be too sticky and leaves residue behind when I water wash it out. Wetline does not do that for me. I have to admit though that for the last couple of months I have also been deep conditioning after eveey water wash so the DCs are probably helping with the washing process the same way that cowashing works.
 
It's 8 am and I am currently under the dryer. Products I used last night:
Wash: water
DC: CRN Algae Renew, 30 minutes with electrical DC cap
Leave-in: Mielle Organics Pomegranate and Honey Leave-in
Gel 1: Mielle Organics Pomegranate and Honey Curling Custard
Gel 2: Wet Line Xtreme Gel
Style: wash and go of course, what else? I kept it over night in wet bantu knots. Took down this morning and went under the dryer.
 
@LynnieB - I can co-sign everything you are saying. I am in the digital Salon as well. I have been DELIVERT!

I literally style my hair with 2 or 3 products. I have a tapered that I am TRYING to get 7 days out of, but I work out 5 days a week HARD. I can get about 4 or 5 good days until it start being more of a fro than define curl set. I am working on my combo's to see what get's me the BEST results. I want to get some Hydra to combat this disrespectful Humidity in Texas.

When I tell you those ladies you the same products on every single curly head it is AMAZING Lose to Tight Curls! It's about the technique and desired outcome. I think one of the BIGGEST lessons I learned was about wanting my hair to be SHINY and Not Look Dry... Well, if your hair grows and bends a certain way that light can't bounce of it... MMMMMMMMM It wont EVERY be naturally shiny... Any DRY is actually a feeling.. Just common sense stuff that for some reason was eluding my senses..

I have a stylist here in Dallas that is one of the Cut it Kinky Alumni , Silked By Sonnie, SHE IS EVERYTHING!!!
 
I am convinced. I’m signing up for the digital salon tonight. I wonder if I will get good results if I use their application techniques with my current products? I get good hold and my hair already lasts 3-4 days.
 
LynnieB said:
Sunday was Washday. Hooded dryer broke and had to diffuse 830 at night. Products: AG Hair Balance shampoo and Innersense Hydrating conditioner. Stylers: UFD curly magic and Innersense I Create Volume.
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Nice results, thick uniform curls. Is the I Create Volume a foam?
 
LynnieB said:
100% plant based. No carbomer, plastics, polyquats or polymers, no silicones applied directly onto the hair without a 100% botantical primer first. Non 100% botantical gels, mousses, foams, cremes or custards are used as antihumectants.
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What is the benefit expected from sticking to these Botanical gels? Easier to poo out?
 
Alma Petra said:
It's 8 am and I am currently under the dryer. Products I used last night:
Wash: water
DC: CRN Algae Renew, 30 minutes with electrical DC cap
Leave-in: Mielle Organics Pomegranate and Honey Leave-in
Gel 1: Mielle Organics Pomegranate and Honey Curling Custard
Gel 2: Wet Line Xtreme Gel
Style: wash and go of course, what else? I kept it over night in wet bantu knots. Took down this morning and went under the dryer.
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I got very decent results from this combo today and received a few compliments at work (but that's maybe because I don't usually wear my hair out at work)
I will revisit this combo again to make sure that my hair really likes it and it's not a fluke. My hair is not dry to the touch which is a huge thing in my book.

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