Wash And Go, To Grow And To Dazzle 2020 Challenge

Alma Petra said:
What is the benefit expected from sticking to these Botanical gels? Easier to poo out?
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They are actually nourishing to the hair. As humectants, they surround the hair strand with an additional layer of water (moisture) and provide shine and curl memory. No leave-in conditioner is required with their washngo method.

We dont want anything non-nourishing directly on the cuticle. Definitely less possibility of buildup. Their focus is on keeping the hair in a hydrated state which gives better curl definition. It's the curly curl method modified for tightly textured hair.
 
I signed up for the digital salon last night. I’ve only done a done a few lessons so far. I’m hoping at some point that they go past explaining the basic hair qualities and tell me how to figure out my hair qualities for myself. For example I understand the definition of texture (fine, medium, coarse) but since I don’t have other hair to compare mine to, how do I know what my hair is. Same for surface texture I understand the definitions, but I need specific tests so I can categorize my hair.
 
GettingKinky said:
I signed up for the digital salon last night. I’ve only done a done a few lessons so far. I’m hoping at some point that they go past explaining the basic hair qualities and tell me how to figure out my hair qualities for myself. For example I understand the definition of texture (fine, medium, coarse) but since I don’t have other hair to compare mine to, how do I know what my hair is. Same for surface texture I understand the definitions, but I need specific tests so I can categorize my hair.
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Feel free to post your question! Aeleise, Aisha or Cassandra will happily answer anything you've got!

Everything is in the courses including what's in the "washyourd*mnhair" ebook (sorry that IS the title.

ETA....PLEASE feel free to post photos of your hair. You can do so in the salon or you dm photos to Aeleise or Aisha if you feel more comfortable. They are now YOUR stylists.
 
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waff said:
Lol I love the name! Hilarious :lachen:they are clearly not about that conditioner washing life
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They actually aren’t against using cleansers that are more conditioning than cleansing, but it depends on what products you use and how easily you can remove them from your hair.

They are much less strident in their digital forum than they are on Instagram.
 
GettingKinky said:
They actually aren’t against using cleansers that are more conditioning than cleansing, but it depends on what products you use and how easily you can remove them from your hair.

They are much less strident in their digital forum than they are on Instagram.
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The reason WHY is because many many black women have no clue how their hair is supposed to feel with a concrete truck full of butter and oil on it.

The complaint of too many naturals is.....why is my hair dry? Why is my hair dry and I'm using all the things...raw oils, shea butter, DIY concoctions, food, rice water, chebe powder, blue magic and dax, etc. AND still suffer from dehydrated hair.
Why dont my washngo's last 4 days, 5 days.....7 days? Often the reason why is the hair must be clean and the hair hydrated. Only water can hydrate aka moisturize hair and it happens on shampoo day but if the hair is coated with heavy layers of "stuff" that will not happen.

The community is created to put an end to that.

Everyone in the DS has done the detox, has or is in the process of going through the courses and knows that hair doesnt automatically feel like lubed up silky satin and it is perfectly normal for hair to feel like hair. Getting to know what each ones naked hair feels like is the goal.

After learning about ingredients in hair products...what makes them good or bad, what's hype and what's true......ladies are expected to eventually branch out and try different products and to chose those products using what they have learned.

For the 30 day detox which most women desperately need, there are a set selection of products so they have a clean......really clean slate from which to build.
 
LynnieB said:
The reason WHY is because many many black women have no clue how their hair is supposed to feel with a concrete truck full of butter and oil on it.

The complaint of too many naturals is.....why is my hair dry? Why is my hair dry and I'm using all the things...raw oils, shea butter, DIY concoctions, food, rice water, chebe powder, blue magic and dax, etc. AND still suffer from dehydrated hair.
Why dont my washngo's last 4 days, 5 days.....7 days? Often the reason why is the hair must be clean and the hair hydrated. Only water can hydrate aka moisturize hair and it happens on shampoo day but if the hair is coated with heavy layers of "stuff" that will not happen.

The community is created to put an end to that.

Everyone in the DS has done the detox, has or is in the process of going through the courses and knows that hair doesnt automatically feel like lubed up silky satin and it is perfectly normal for hair to feel like hair. Getting to know what each ones naked hair feels like is the goal.

After learning about ingredients in hair products...what makes them good or bad, what's hype and what's true......ladies are expected to eventually branch out and try different products and to chose those products using what they have learned.

For the 30 day detox which most women desperately need, there are a set selection of products so they have a clean......really clean slate from which to build.
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Exactly! I totally agree. Another thing I noticed that many people fail to remember is that silicones are not the only thing that builds up in the hair. Anything other than water does build up on your scalp and hair shaft! A silicone is just a molecule that has a weight and chemical properties, oils and butter can act just like silicones in terms of coating the scalp/hair. Even fatty alcohols, proteins, anything has the ability to build up at some point. I would argue that oils/butters are harder to clarify than silicones sometimes. Unless you don't use any product or conditioners, skipping out on shampoos and cleansing the hair (somehow) makes no sense to me.
it's totally necessary to make it a statement that at some point you just have to wash your d*mn hair! I had to learn this the hard way in the past, and I realized that cancelling out shampoo was dumb and did not make any sense. Shampoo (even sulfates) are my best friend. The CG method had some nice pointers to help us with embracing our hair, but it is not the end all be all.
 
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BOOM and there it is!! Silicones, polyquats, carbomers, yep.

I was a huge olive oil user, not anymore. The essential elements of my hair does not require it at all. I haven't missed it and my hair is doing things I never imagined it could do and it lasts 7+ days with absolutely no refreshing or additional water or products needed.

They aren't against raw oils or butters like they are against DIY, they are against the havoc they can cause so many natural women's hair life.
 
I’m wondering if I didn’t like the way the Briogeo chia + flax seed coil custard felt was because I didn’t rinse all my conditioner out before I used it. I’m going to give it another try, but I’m not sure when.

The digital salon is interesting, but I find the setup a bit confusing. It could use a better organized interface.
 
GettingKinky said:
I’m wondering if I didn’t like the way the Briogeo chia + flax seed coil custard felt was because I didn’t rinse all my conditioner out before I used it. I’m going to give it another try, but I’m not sure when.

The digital salon is interesting, but I find the setup a bit confusing. It could use a better organized interface.
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Have you asked for help? I found it a little difficult at first but after playing with it a while, very useable.

What are you having trouble with? Each course has its topics nested under the overview. Click on the overview and the topics of the courses are there.

Be prepared to adjust what you've been doing and products you're using. If it isn't giving you the results desire, it's a tell that product may not be the right one for your hair's essential elements or the condition it is in.

Just ask whatever questions you have, there will always be someone there to help but they dont know to help until you speak on it!
 
Hmmm. I think my wash and go's never lasted all that long because I just don't know how to use product correctly. Someone is going to have to teach me. At this point, I don't think I'm going to pick it up myself.

That said, I don't mind wetting and conditioning my hair every day. Or at least most days. What's so wrong with that? As I said earlier, Dickey at Hair Rules recommends wetting and conditioning every day.

That said, I watched some of these ladies' videos yesterday and I once again tried to add product in the shower as they recommended (so does Dickey, so does the Ouidad) and once again... my hair won't dry. LOL.

Still wet at 11 a.m.
 

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LadyRaider said:
Hmmm. I think my wash and go's never lasted all that long because I just don't know how to use product correctly. Someone is going to have to teach me. At this point, I don't think I'm going to pick it up myself.

That said, I don't mind wetting and conditioning my hair every day. Or at least most days. What's so wrong with that? As I said earlier, Dickey at Hair Rules recommends wetting and conditioning every day.

That said, I watched some of these ladies' videos yesterday and I once again tried to add product in the shower as they recommended (so does Dickey, so does the Ouidad) and once again... my hair won't dry. LOL.

Still wet at 11 a.m.
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They are not advocates of his methods as realistically most women just dont have the time to be fooling around with their hair like that......they want to do their set and go about their life. I'm sure there are other reasons (like his products contains silicones, carbomers and other stuff) but you'd have to ask them. They are not cowashing advocates either except I certain circumstances then cowashing between sets is what's needed; working out, dirty job, etc.

I dont mind my wash days every 7 days. I work a dirty job every once in a while I will use a mild rich shampoo between washdays but I am definitely back to the usual on day 7 or 8.

They also are advocates of hooded dryers and diffusing over air drying especially if hair is dense and/or long. Not many people like walking around with wet head or wet roots. I know I can't stand it!

Foundation is always extremely clean, build up free hair and as well as the ingredients of the products.
 
LynnieB said:
They are not advocates of his methods as realistically most women just dont have the time to be fooling around with their hair like that......they want to do their set and go about their life. I'm sure there are other reasons (like his products contains silicones, carbomers and other stuff) but you'd have to ask them. They are not cowashing advocates either except I certain circumstances then cowashing between sets is what's needed; working out, dirty job, etc.

I dont mind my wash days every 7 days. I work a dirty job every once in a while I will use a mild rich shampoo between washdays but I am definitely back to the usual on day 7 or 8.

They also are advocates of hooded dryers and diffusing over air drying especially if hair is dense and/or long. Not many people like walking around with wet head or wet roots. I know I can't stand it!

Foundation is always extremely clean, build up free hair and as well as the ingredients of the products.
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Do you workout every day, though? I sweat in my head a LOT. And I work out almost every day. I can generally get a second day even with workouts... but after that...

That said, I can always put my hair in a puff or whatever. I don't HAVE to wash my hair every day. I could go a week just putting it up. I just don't mind it. Dickey says that the more you do wash and go, the easier it gets. And that's been my experience.

As for the silicones thing: I don't use Dickey's products. I am a product junkie, but MOSTLY I use Ouidad. I can see why you wouldn't want water-soluble silicones if you were trying to go a week without redoing your hair. But that doesn't apply to me. I THINK I'm okay in that sense.

I do definitely learn from these ladies. I take in information like a sponge! I was just saying that I think *I* personally have a problem keeping my hair for days because I am not good at applying products (or I use the wrong products). Plus the workouts. Plus, I don't really care about keeping my WNG for days. If that makes sense. I'm not arguing with the info these ladies are promoting. I definitely enjoyed the videos I watched last night!
 
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LadyRaider said:
Do you workout every day, though? I sweat in my head a LOT. And I work out almost every day. I can generally get a second day even with workouts... but after that...

That said, I can always put my hair in a puff or whatever. I don't HAVE to wash my hair every day. I could go a week just putting it up. I just don't mind it. Dickey says that the more you do wash and go, the easier it gets. And that's been my experience.

As for the silicones thing: I don't use Dickey's products. I am a product junkie, but MOSTLY I use Ouidad. I can see why you wouldn't want water-soluble silicones if you were trying to go a week without redoing your hair. But that doesn't apply to me. I THINK I'm okay in that sense.

I do definitely learn from these ladies. I take in information like a sponge! I was just saying that I think *I* personally have a problem keeping my hair for days because I am not good at applying products (or I use the wrong products). Plus the workouts. Plus, I don't really care about keeping my WNG for days. If that makes sense. I'm not arguing with the info these ladies are promoting. I definitely enjoyed the videos I watched last night!
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My daughter and I own and operate a mobile dog grooming salon in North Carolina. The vehicle is a camper/bus. Right now it is 86 degrees with a dewpoint in the 75. The humidity is probably 90-95% inside the truck when dogs are being washed and blow dried. No A/C or dehumidifier can keep up with our summers. We sweat every day ALL day when we work Spring thru Fall. So yes my lifestyle is very similar to yours and do not have time or energy to wash more often than day 4 or on washday at 7 or 8 days.

I literally sat under my dryer for 30 minutes. At that point it can complete airdrying and be completely dry in an hour or 2 or I can hit it with a diffuser for 15 minutes and I'm done.

Glad you found what works for you but many tight texture ladies have not and want to learn how to get salon results at home.
 
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My daughter and I own and operate a mobile dog grooming salon in North Carolina. The vehicle is a camper/bus. Right now it is 86 degrees with a dewpoint in the 75. The humidity is probably 90-95% inside the truck when dogs are being washed and blow dried. No A/C or dehumidifier can keep up with our summers. We sweat every day ALL day when we work Spring thru Fall. So yes my lifestyle is very similar to yours and do not have time or energy to wash more often than day 4 or on washday at 7 or 8 days.

I literally sat under my dryer for 30 minutes. At that point it can complete airdrying and be completely dry in an hour or 2 or I can hit it with a diffuser for 15 minutes and I'm done.

Glad you found what works for you but many tight texture ladies have not and want to learn how to get salon results at home.
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I just noticed you live in NC as well! :) I am in the Raleigh area, The humidity is another level over here these days whew, It's amazing you can go that long between wash days, My hair tangles like crazy if I go more than 4 days
@LadyRaider styling dripping wet hair does the same for me, minimum 24-30 hours to fully dry
 
waff said:
I just noticed you live in NC as well! :) I am in the Raleigh area, The humidity is another level over here these days whew, It's amazing you can go that long between wash days, My hair tangles like crazy if I go more than 4 days
@LadyRaider styling dripping wet hair does the same for me, minimum 24-30 hours to fully dry
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It is horrible........no relief at all. We gassed up this morning and the girls had 2 dehumidifiers behind the counter trying to dry the air out a little.

Yes, daughter and I can keep a set. We wear a buff to protect our hair from dog hair, dust, dander or stank but there are times when none of that works and the only way to get it out is to wash it mid week.
 
LadyRaider said:
Do you workout every day, though? I sweat in my head a LOT. And I work out almost every day. I can generally get a second day even with workouts... but after that...

That said, I can always put my hair in a puff or whatever. I don't HAVE to wash my hair every day. I could go a week just putting it up. I just don't mind it. Dickey says that the more you do wash and go, the easier it gets. And that's been my experience.

As for the silicones thing: I don't use Dickey's products. I am a product junkie, but MOSTLY I use Ouidad. I can see why you wouldn't want water-soluble silicones if you were trying to go a week without redoing your hair. But that doesn't apply to me. I THINK I'm okay in that sense.

I do definitely learn from these ladies. I take in information like a sponge! I was just saying that I think *I* personally have a problem keeping my hair for days because I am not good at applying products (or I use the wrong products). Plus the workouts. Plus, I don't really care about keeping my WNG for days. If that makes sense. I'm not arguing with the info these ladies are promoting. I definitely enjoyed the videos I watched last night!
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I can relate. I have problematic scalp (severe dandruff) and If I try to keep 5 workout days a week worth of sweat in my scalp, I will itch like a dog lol! I can't play with my scalp like that, the tangles get crazy as well after day 4, so I end up spending double the time detangling anyway. I understand how nice it must be to prolong a style for days like that, but it is not an option for me. I think the key is to take what works for you and adapt it to your routine and lifestyle.
 
1st pic (my dryer died on wash day earlier this week so had to resort to diffusing. This gave me day 3-4 hair on Day 1 which is cool and all but not the way I like to roll.

Washed my hair yesterday, sat under my new dryer for 30 minutes, did house stuff. By 830 had a few damp endsmso diffused for 10-15 minutes and was done.

Today's hair. Dew point 77. Worked until 230 and here's what I have.
 

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LynnieB said:
1st pic (my dryer died on wash day earlier this week so had to resort to diffusing. This gave me day 3-4 hair on Day 1 which is cool and all but not the way I like to roll.

Washed my hair yesterday, sat under my new dryer for 30 minutes, did house stuff. By 830 had a few damp endsmso diffused for 10-15 minutes and was done.

Today's hair. Dew point 77. Worked until 230 and here's what I have.
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Beautiful!
 
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