Wash And Go, To Grow And To Dazzle 2020 Challenge

waff said:
Omg you worded my goal WNG styler word by word! :p That's my ultimate goal as well. It's hard to find something that does both longevity + great 1st day hair.
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Half of me wants to throw away everything I have that isn’t part of my “pretty good” routine. I LOVE my day 2-3 hair. And I only use 4 things (shampoo, conditioner, leave- in and gel and I could probably get rid of the leave in)

The other half of me wants to keep trying to find the perfect product, but that means more mediocre to bad hair days and huge build up of partially used products.

Are you going to keep searching for the holy grail?
 
GettingKinky said:
Half of me wants to throw away everything I have that isn’t part of my “pretty good” routine. I LOVE my day 2-3 hair. And I only use 4 things (shampoo, conditioner, leave- in and gel and I could probably get rid of the leave in)

The other half of me wants to keep trying to find the perfect product, but that means more mediocre to bad hair days and huge build up of partially used products.

Are you going to keep searching for the holy grail?
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I can so relate to this. If I say no, I will be lying now lol Truth is that I think I will chill out of trying out new products for a while, but I can't help my self and my PJ tendencies when I see the hair care aisle *sigh*

I can safely say that I am pretty happy with my current routine, the Doux mousse def has become a stable at this point unless winter comes around and my hair dries out, than I might have to use something more moisturizing for WNGs.
 
FoxxyLocs said:
I haven't posted here in forever bc I've just been doing the same thing over and over again.

Last week I did try the doux mousse. The hold wasn't strong enough by itself so I added Wetline over it. My hair felt really dry, so I washed it out the next day and did it again using my regular leave in (TJNS), the mouse, and gel. Much better result that lasted all week, but I can't say it's any better than my normal combo (TJ, Curls hair milk, Wetline).

The thing I did like was that the mousse spread really easily through my hair and wasn't gunky like the hair milk can be if I use too much.

It made me want to try another mousse to see if I can get better results.
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Have you tried it on it's own? That's how the brand founder recommends to use it. I was skeptical at first, but it really does moisturize and provides definition. It's not a gel definition, but it's defining in a different way. I found her video very helpful and her method as simple as it sound was pretty effective. I like that she showed different hair types and tweaks to make depending on thickness/density.

One thing I found to be cool is that my hair does not have to be dripping wet compared to when using gel. The product smooths and distributes just as well on damp hair.



as a side note: I really like her channel and her prescriptive as a stylist on hair care for textured hair in general (example: her view points on why natural hair products tends to be loaded up with oils) . I find her so refreshing.
 
I’m going to try and settle into a Monday and Thursday wash schedule. That way my hair will looks it’s best for the weekend, and who looks good on Monday anyway :look:

But I’m off track now because I washed on Wednesday this week. Oh well hopefully my hair can hold out until Monday.
 
Does anyone here follow Iamblackgirlcurls on Instagram ? I find their advice very similar to evanjosephcurls - no oils, and butters, use high quality salon products, hydrate your hair with water.

I don’t use oils and butters, but I’m getting good results with drugstore products. I have salon products in my stash so I guess I don’t know if my hair could be even better.

The thing I don’t like about them is that they really push for people to join their digital salon, which costs $25/month or $225/year :rolleyes:
 
GettingKinky said:
Does anyone here follow Iamblackgirlcurls on Instagram ? I find their advice very similar to evanjosephcurls - no oils, and butters, use high quality salon products, hydrate your hair with water.

I don’t use oils and butters, but I’m getting good results with drugstore products. I have salon products in my stash so I guess I don’t know if my hair could be even better.

The thing I don’t like about them is that they really push for people to join their digital salon, which costs $25/month or $225/year :rolleyes:
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At the end of the day there is no "one size fits all" hair care so I side eye anyone trying to tell you there's a set of rules/practices/etc that everyone should or shouldn't do. Even more suspect if the person is pushing products or services.
 
water_n_oil said:
At the end of the day there is no "one size fits all" hair care so I side eye anyone trying to tell you there's a set of rules/practices/etc that everyone should or shouldn't do. Even more suspect if the person is pushing products or services.
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My latest thinking is that with the proper technique almost any product will work, it’s just figuring out the technique for each product- and suffering the bad hair days while you learn.

The only thing I think is universal is that all hair needs adequate water. But the best technique for getting the water in, and keeping it in may vary from person to person.
 
Given what I just said about any product should probably work, I’m going to use up my stash of shampoos, conditioners, gels, and curl creams. I want to clear them all out so I can simplify. I will only give up on something if I can’t make it work after a month of trying.

Remind me of this if you hear me say I’m buying something new.
 
GettingKinky said:
Does anyone here follow Iamblackgirlcurls on Instagram ? I find their advice very similar to evanjosephcurls - no oils, and butters, use high quality salon products, hydrate your hair with water.

I don’t use oils and butters, but I’m getting good results with drugstore products. I have salon products in my stash so I guess I don’t know if my hair could be even better.

The thing I don’t like about them is that they really push for people to join their digital salon, which costs $25/month or $225/year :rolleyes:
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I do follow them and I personally tend to agree with that for my hair. Oils/butters (in stylers especially) do nothing for my hair. I can get away with using a DC that has them, but putting straight up oil/butter dried the heck out of my cuticle. That fee is ridiculous though lol

Stylers that contain oils in the top 5 ingredients just leave my hair with this weird dry feeling after a while. Which is weird because I beleive I am high porosity, so my hair should like heavy sealing product? When it comes to hair products I think it depends on ones hair properties for sure. My hair does not love glycerin, oils, and butter heavy products. Loves aloe, marshmallow root, silicons, protein (in moderation). Technique is important, but technique can only do so much if the product doesn't serve the hair's properties imo. I use drugstore products all the time, I think stylists in general have this entitlement towards drugstore products.
 
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SunkissedLife said:
Basically it kinda seems like an oil rinse. I’m wondering if this is the hair hack Ive been needing for wash n gos. Have any of you done an oil rinse before wash n go? My hair was so soft and moist and most fully dry overnight. I definitely think one could put a scarf and maybe gel on and be ready to go straight out the shower no fuss. Please let me know your experiences.
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i just popped in here to write that I currently have a head full of oil (and some conditioner) for an overnight oil mask....

I just had more highlights put in my hair 3 weeks ago, and then got sun damage in the last 2 weeks because of walking to work everyday.
I did a olaplex treatment last week to try and revive my hair and almost cried because my hair was so matted, dry, and different feeling that what I was normally used to. Even the curls were just blah

My hair reverted during the week, wearing my wash n go, and spraying it with water everyday to revive the curls.

Tonight, I remembered that my hair loves Oil Pre Poos, and hemp oil usually makes my curls pop when I wash it out.

I put it in, and my curls are already popping.... and my hair isn't matted at the roots anymore... I'm so happy I remembered this, and i'll wash it out tomorrow and style.
 
waff said:
I am really interested to try the DE mousse since it doesn't have glycerin. I want to try lotta body mousse since it's much more affordable and I saw someone on YouTube have great results for a wng.
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The Stylist used the DE mousse in my hair at the salon, and it was a beautifully soft wash n go.
I'm still partial to my Wetline Xtreme gel wash n gos, but I'm going to pick up some mousse and play around with it
 
waff said:
It's hard to find something that does both longevity + great 1st day hair.
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I came in here to write about my revelation this week.
I am having to learn my hair all over again.
But I think I've found a nice wash n go rhythm that lasts me 5 to 6 days, - like I can easily wash 1nce a week, and my hair is great looking every day. (without having to resort to putting it up into a pineapple or poofy pony tail the last few days)

My hair now looks like a floppy, curly, justin beiber hair cut, it has movement and definition.

my first day/second day hair makes me sad, lol. it's the ramen noodle day,(very elongated, the curls look more like ribbons, and they are super defined and not fluffy and plump) where I think that i've lost all my curls, and I've done the worst wash n go ever, and i'll probably have to wash it out in 2 days, and what a waste of product.
(it's usually still wet/ and in the process of drying ... which takes 24 or more hours)
this is the day that I put the back of my hair up in a cute pineapple...and let my bangs be free.

Day 3. my hair is now mostly dry, even in back. I take my hair out of the ponytail from all day/overnight, and I revive my hair in the morning with a rosewater spray ... the back and sides of my hair a nicely stretched now, and the spray refreshes and plumps my curls and tightens up my roots.... Days 3 and 4 and 5 are great hair days... but... my hair shrinks more each day because of the water refresh

Day 6-7... my hair starts getting mushroom like... even if I fluff out the roots, and the coils are super defined now, but getting tighter and tighter... This style looks good too, but has the potential to get real fluffy looking if I use too much moisture or cream to revive it... here's where I may finger curl individual curls.

Day 7. wash. condition. start over.
 
metro_qt said:
my first day/second day hair makes me sad, lol. it's the ramen noodle day,(very elongated, the curls look more like ribbons, and they are super defined and not fluffy and plump) where I think that i've lost all my curls, and I've done the worst wash n go ever, and i'll probably have to wash it out in 2 days, and what a waste of product.
(it's usually still wet/ and in the process of drying ... which takes 24 or more hours)
this is the day that I put the back of my hair up in a cute pineapple...and let my bangs be free.
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I keep hoping I can avoid this stage, but maybe it’s inevitable. Maybe it’s only possible to have 2-3 days of my favorite hair per wash.
 
Day 4 hair today! It didn’t want to come all the way down from my pineapple last night, but a little mist with water did the trick. Before my Deva cut that would have made it shrink into a funny shape, now I don’t have to worry. :-)
 
I need to make it a point to check the back of my head at least once a day. My curls look good in the front and messed up in the back. :eek:
Frizzy, smooshed, dry. smh
 
Day 5 and my hair still looks decent in the front. I really want to wash today but I need my hair to look good on Tuesday and Wednesday so I have to wait and wash tomorrow
 
I’ve spent so much time on iamblackgircurl’s IG page that I am tempted to join their digital hair salon for one month. I want to see how they apply gel. They say they don’t section the hair and they don’t use a ton of product. They also say that they don’t use leave in conditioner.

I’m all about simplifying.
 
GettingKinky said:
I’ve spent so much time on iamblackgircurl’s IG page that I am tempted to join their digital hair salon for one month. I want to see how they apply gel. They say they don’t section the hair and they don’t use a ton of product. They also say that they don’t use leave in conditioner.

I’m all about simplifying.
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You can always back out after a month if you are not enjoying the experience, right? I don't see the harm in trying it out, sometimes that's how you stumble upon the tricks/techniques that change up your whole routine game.

I enjoy their content in IG (I don't agree with everything they say, but that's okay) and they do seem like they know their thing. I like that it's not the same redundant advice that every natural/curly hair stylist gives out.
 
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waff said:
You can always back out after a month if you are not enjoying the experience, right? I don't see the harm in trying it out, sometimes that's how you stumble upon the tricks/techniques that change up your whole routine game.

I enjoy their content in IG (I don't agree with everything they say, but that's okay) and they do seem like they know their thing. I like that it's not the same redundant advice that every natural/curly hair stylist gives out.
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That’s true. Maybe I’ll try it for a month.
 
I found a stylist trained by iamblackgirlcurl she’s 75 minutes away from me and she’s black. That’s a long way for a hair cut, but I’m starting to realize that my last Deva cut is good, but could be a lot better. Maybe it’s because I told her I wanted to keep as much length as possible. Idk if I should give her (she Latina) another chance or drive for 75 minutes to see the black woman.
 
Okay, second day trying the Wetline extreme gel (still daily cowashing).

I think...my hair does better when it's air dried for like 5-10 minutes after a shower. This is what I did yesterday, and I think the application of the gel went better yesterday. I also had better clumps overall.

Today, I applied the gel almost immediately out of the shower, and the following things happened:
  • the gel made small clots with the conditioner and water in my hair (like when you get the white balls indicating products don't mix well)
  • it felt like I needed to use more gel (which sucked because I had only bought a really small tub of the gel and was out of it by the time I finished applying it all over my hair)
  • i didn't get as decent of a gel cast and so my hair started to frizz relatively soon after application (it just seemed liked the gel was going into my hair rather than staying on top of it which is why i kept adding more gel)
  • now it's been a few hours of drying, there is some gel cast on some pieces, but they're not extremely stiff pieces (they're softer to the touch than yesterday)
I went and bought a bigger tub of it today.
As of right now, my daily hair routine consists of two products: Suave Everlasting Sunshine Conditioner and Wetline Extreme Gel.
 
CurlyWhoCrux said:
Okay, second day trying the Wetline extreme gel (still daily cowashing).

I think...my hair does better when it's air dried for like 5-10 minutes after a shower. This is what I did yesterday, and I think the application of the gel went better yesterday. I also had better clumps overall.

Today, I applied the gel almost immediately out of the shower, and the following things happened:
  • the gel made small clots with the conditioner and water in my hair (like when you get the white balls indicating products don't mix well)
  • it felt like I needed to use more gel (which sucked because I had only bought a really small tub of the gel and was out of it by the time I finished applying it all over my hair)
  • i didn't get as decent of a gel cast and so my hair started to frizz relatively soon after application (it just seemed liked the gel was going into my hair rather than staying on top of it which is why i kept adding more gel)
  • now it's been a few hours of drying, there is some gel cast on some pieces, but they're not extremely stiff pieces (they're softer to the touch than yesterday)
I went and bought a bigger tub of it today.
As of right now, my daily hair routine consists of two products: Suave Everlasting Sunshine Conditioner and Wetline Extreme Gel.
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That's what I am starting to realize too. Styling on dripping wet hair does not produce the best result always. I noticed that helps reduce drying time too and avoid the sticky looking roots when using gel. Now, I air dry in a cotton t-shirt for 5-10 mins before styling, by bedtime my hair is 95% dry and I barely have to defuse.
 
I used Curl Junkie Smoothing Lotion and Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Magic today and I think the Curl Junkie was too light. My was super dry until I later put a Camille rose cream on it.
 
GettingKinky said:
I found a stylist trained by iamblackgirlcurl she’s 75 minutes away from me and she’s black. That’s a long way for a hair cut, but I’m starting to realize that my last Deva cut is good, but could be a lot better. Maybe it’s because I told her I wanted to keep as much length as possible. Idk if I should give her (she Latina) another chance or drive for 75 minutes to see the black woman.
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I'd probably drive. If I didn't have color, I'd only see my stylist a couple times a year. If she was 75 mins away I'd still go see her.
 
I used less gel then I typically do last wash day and I feel like it has better hold than usual. Today is day 3 and it looks like day 2. I may even wear day 4 hair to work if it still looks decent.

I squished in the gel this time and I put more focus on getting gel on my roots. My curls are more individual this time if you know what I mean. I leaned my head to the side so that my hair wasn’t laying on my head when I applied the gel and it made it easier to get to my roots.
 
Idk why I keep giving shea moisture stylers a chance, that stuff does not go along with my hair smh SM's DCs and the JBCO leave in are the only thing that ever worked for me, the enhancing smoothie is just not it and I think this is the last time I will retry it. It left my hair so dry and rough, my hair was so frizzy and mushy, just the worst. I had to clarify and DC asap.

On the other hand I tried out mixed chicks leave in for the first time. Not going to lie, I never tried it out in the past because I was never fond of the name. but it worked beautifully! I was surprised to realize that it actually has a lot of hold? when I read the ingredients, I saw that it contains holding ingredients like PVP. It's more of a curl cream and a styler than a leave in imo. It also has a cone so it should help with humidity and provide slip which i can attest that it does both.
 
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