DarkJoy
Bent. Not Broken.
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APrayer4Hair
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Pre-pooed, cowashed, and used AO GBP for all 3 steps. Hair feels pretty good. Still dryish but not as bad.....
*SkolarStar*
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faithVA
Does your hair feel good with the conditioner on but not so good when you rinse?
Yes
Do you color your hair or use any type of chemical service on your hair?
No
Do you blow dry your hair? When was the last time you straightened it?
No. December.
Do you do protein treatments at all? If so when was the last one?
Yes. 8 weeks ago. Aphogee 2 step.
Does your hair feel greasy when you take out the twist?
No.
Does the Shea Moisture soak into your strands?
I don't know. It feels soft.
*SkolarStar*
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@*SkolarStar* Saw the Dark and Lovely and knew that might be the problem. Their products are sh*t!
D & L Au Naturale Conditioner ingredients:
AQUA / WATER / EAU, CETEARYL ALCOHOL, ELAEIS GUINEENSIS OIL / PALM OIL, BEHENTRIMONIUM CHLORIDE, PARFUM / FRAGRANCE, GLYCERIN PHENOXYETHANOL, ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL, STEARAMIDOPROPYL DIMETHYLAMINE, MANGIFERA INDICA SEED OIL / MANGO SEED OIL, CAPRYLIC/CAPRIC TRIGLYCERIDE, CITRIC ACID, CHLORHEXIDINE DIHYDROCHLORIDE, BENZYL SALICYLATE, LINALOOL, BAMBUSA VULGARIS EXTRACT
Might as well pour rubbing alcohol and lemon juice on your head at the same time. Both are extremely drying! Always read the labels!
Chile, you need to throw that away and save your hair with some AO condish products!
ETA: Use a clarifying shampoo next time to be sure you get all that BS out your hair. Keep us updated!
ETA2: DC your strands afterwards for a few hours with a protein-free moisture only product
DarkJoy
AO HSR has been giving me bad results too. That's why I tried a different conditioner. I will clarify but I need to dc with something else. AO HSR isn't the same I bought when I 1st started this hair thing years ago. I've been looking into joico.
*SkolarStar*
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Cruzankink
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I am not using Tresemme Naturals (or any other con for that matter) to CW anymore. I haven't done a mid-week CW in months since I'm in a low mani reggie. However, I decided to CW yesterday b/c my hair was a shrunken mess and I sweat more than usual in my workout. When I wet my hair, its soft and elongated but when I add TN its shrinks up. I noticed this when I first BC'd and used Garniers 3 Moisture Fructice. Now it seems that TN is doing the same thing. Jenn friom Komaza Care told me that I didn't need to use con when cleansing my hair mid-week. A simple rinse w/ water will do particularly since I use water soluble products. From now on, I'll do a mid-week water rinse when I feel the need to freshen/cleanse my hair. Have any of you ladies experienced this?
faithVA
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I do notice I can water rinse, but I do still cowash because I can detangle. I can't really do that with a water rinse.
Yeah there's something with the Tresemme Naturals that isn't so natural
I don't know if it made my hair shrink but it does make my scalp itch. I think you should try it though.
faithVA
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[USER=180818 said:
Thanks for answering all of those questions
I know there were a few. I was trying to see if you had a porosity issue which is why you may be having issues with heavy products, but based on your answers it doesn't seem to be so. But I do think you have a product issue. If you hair feels soft and moisturized at one part of your regimen but dry in another you probably have a product issue. So you need to replace the product that is causing that issue.
Even though another persons hair may love a product, it doesn't mean that yours will. Look at the ingredients on that product and choose something different. If it is a heavy product, try something lighter.
Until you figure out what your hair likes, try to hold off on products silicon, mineral oil or petroleum. Also pay attention to whether a product has shea butter, aloe vera, olive oil or glycerin. You need to determine what your hair likes.
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Cruzankink
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Incredible1ne
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I colored my hair to do something to it but now I wish I hadn't. I won't be doing it again and the color is way too bright for my complexion!
Hello all,
Could you ladies recommend something with slip AND moisture? I just spent nearly 2 hours detangling my hair and still didn't get it all out. Lots of broken hairs to go along with the shed ones. The Aubrey Organics conditioners FELT like they were smoothing my hair, but I guess not. I know most of this was my fault. I refuse to properly detangle my hair because it's daunting. I haven't had a trim in nearly two years either, so my hair is a rat's nest of SSKs (I keep getting these awful hair balls on the ends). I only survived today thanks to Giovanni 50/50. Tangles just felt right out of my hair.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Could you ladies recommend something with slip AND moisture? I just spent nearly 2 hours detangling my hair and still didn't get it all out. Lots of broken hairs to go along with the shed ones. The Aubrey Organics conditioners FELT like they were smoothing my hair, but I guess not. I know most of this was my fault. I refuse to properly detangle my hair because it's daunting. I haven't had a trim in nearly two years either, so my hair is a rat's nest of SSKs (I keep getting these awful hair balls on the ends). I only survived today thanks to Giovanni 50/50. Tangles just felt right out of my hair.
Thanks for any suggestions.
DarkJoy
Bent. Not Broken.
Hello Ari8!
You know you need a trim, Missy! Lol that will keep your ends from snarling.
Which aubrey are you using?
V05 is not even a dollar and is fantastic for slip, detangling and a little moisture though it's not a DC.
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You know you need a trim, Missy! Lol that will keep your ends from snarling.
Which aubrey are you using?
V05 is not even a dollar and is fantastic for slip, detangling and a little moisture though it's not a DC.
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HanaKuroi
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Ari8 said:
How do you refuse to properly detangle your hair? Then spend two hours ripping and damaging your hair?
You need natural mini braids or locs if you refuse to detangle. How do you wear your hair all tangled up?
What kind of regimen do you have?
Being natural is not for the faint of heart.
I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y
hnntrr
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My hair is sooooooo frizzy! How do I help combat that. Some of the roots are really clumping together and curling, some are sort of clumping together, most are just a few strands stragling together to form a uber frizzy curl....plus add on relaxed hair to all that mess.
How do I keep my hair from frizzing so much and to clump and form curls better? I havnt had heat for about a month, just came out of twists and will be putting them back in in about a week, still doing the CG method.
How do I keep my hair from frizzing so much and to clump and form curls better? I havnt had heat for about a month, just came out of twists and will be putting them back in in about a week, still doing the CG method.
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Yes, I know. I'm prett sure it's the main reason my hair keeps tangling (near the roots even!). I've been chopping off hair haphazardly because it gets unbearable. I went to a natural hair salon for my trim in 2011 and my hair was worse after that. I don't know of any other natural hair salons or stylists in this city.
I use HSR and GPB.
I'll try the VO5. I had to rely on those cheapie drugstore cons for years and my hair was dry as straw. But I'm willing to give them another try.
Thanks
DarkJoy
Bent. Not Broken.
Arie8 the Aubrey organics blue Camomile.is way more hydrating than those two. Try that to DC. The vo5 is a suggestion for detangling not to actually condish tho it works great as a cowash too.
Did you mention a protein treatment? Regular protein will help your hair accept moisture DC better.
Are you in a dry or tropical environment? Until lhcf I didn't realize the constant dry air where I live contributed to a chronic hair dryness problem. Maybe you have similar. If that is the case you may have to up your DC two or three times a week til you are balanced.
Don't forget to guzzle the water!
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*.~.*Sent from a distant Galaxy in the Unicorn-verse*.~.*
Did you mention a protein treatment? Regular protein will help your hair accept moisture DC better.
Are you in a dry or tropical environment? Until lhcf I didn't realize the constant dry air where I live contributed to a chronic hair dryness problem. Maybe you have similar. If that is the case you may have to up your DC two or three times a week til you are balanced.
Don't forget to guzzle the water!
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*.~.*Sent from a distant Galaxy in the Unicorn-verse*.~.*
Wrong choice of words, perhaps.
I finger comb at least 3x a week. I do this in the shower and I think--have long suspected--that shower detangling makes it harder for me to feel for tangles underneath and especially around the hairline (my hair is extremely thick if you cannot tell), which is where most of the tangles were. Even though I suspect this and I've had this issue many times before, I've not tried any other ways to detangle because the showerhead method is the fastest and I'm pressed for time these days.
I need to incorporate more protein.
I have avoided it like the plague for years, that and not removing all the shed hair is causing the constant breakage.
So sick of those little hairs. My comb and brush were gliding through my hair yet there was still breakage - it's got to be lack of protein right??
I've never taken note of protein deep conditioners - I need to go research. Can you guys suggest any that I can buy from a bss?
Today I co-washed with a moisturising conditioner, after I rinsed that out I put on Aphogee 2 min and let it sit for about 20 mins. I then used a HaiRepair Pak (the one with the bananas - love it) and I added a teaspoon of SAA powder.
After I rinsed I sprayed on the Aphogee Green Tea & Keratin and added my leave-ins on top and twisted it up.
Hair feels sooo soft right now but admittedly it doesn't feel strong.
I have avoided it like the plague for years, that and not removing all the shed hair is causing the constant breakage.
So sick of those little hairs. My comb and brush were gliding through my hair yet there was still breakage - it's got to be lack of protein right??
I've never taken note of protein deep conditioners - I need to go research. Can you guys suggest any that I can buy from a bss?
Today I co-washed with a moisturising conditioner, after I rinsed that out I put on Aphogee 2 min and let it sit for about 20 mins. I then used a HaiRepair Pak (the one with the bananas - love it) and I added a teaspoon of SAA powder.
After I rinsed I sprayed on the Aphogee Green Tea & Keratin and added my leave-ins on top and twisted it up.
Hair feels sooo soft right now but admittedly it doesn't feel strong.
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ronie
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@skolarstar i have been on my phone the past few days, and i have not seen this mention until tonight. In my short personal journey, i found that AO conditioners (i went through 2 bottle each of HSR, GPB, WC) did nothing for my hair. They actually made it worst. I forced them on my hair cause everybody raved about them, but they did not work for me. I tried both on dry and wet hair, with and without heat. The shea moisture enhancind smoothie never worked for me either. But my hair loves the the curl and style mix, which has replace both my leave in and mositurizer. I am also like the shea moisture hold and shine mist. Thanks to faithVA and 2 other ladies for suggesting it. The shine is not that great, and there' no hold i can feel or see. But my hair stays soft, and manageable, after my 12hours shift; and i have been wearing my hair out a lot in this NYC winter. I agree with whoever said you have a product issue.
A lot of DC will feel great when i apply it, but as soon as i rinse it out my hair will start turning into brillo. And i would have to keep misting with water while twisting my hair. I will still have to use layer, and layers of leave in, moisturizers, and butters. The next day to wake to greasy dry hair.
I will share what i do now, and my hair stays wet/damp through my detangling, and twisting session. And i wake up to juicy and moist twistout lasting about 2 days before i need to moisturize and seal again.
-preepoo twice a week with a mix of wheat germ oil and coconut oil for at least 8 hours (on my scalp i have a mix of shi natural garlic conditioner and essential oils mix for my shedding added for the lat hour only before i wash)
-shampoo once (weekend wash) with a sulfate poo (joico moisture recovery), once (midweek wash) with either a sulfate free poo or a conditioning cleaser (hairveda amla cream rinse or a i am coconut cowash)
-Protein conditioner every week, usually done with the weekend wash after my sulfate poo. I alternate between tigi dumb blonde, spiral solutions, nexus emergencee, alfaparf di bamboo, una intenive protein treatment. The bolded are only used once a month cause they are pretty strong.
-Black tea rinse for my shedding
-Moisturizing DC over the black tea. My current staples: Joico mositure recovery treatment balm, kerastase masquintense, kerastase nutritermique, naturelle grow slippery elm, anita grant rhassoul deep conditioner.
-leave in shea moisture curl and style milk, seal with wheat germ oil, twist with qhemet amla nourishing pomade.
My other staple products: qhemet BRBC to moisturize, qhemet honeybush soft tea gel to add a bit of soft hold to my twist, shea moisture hold and shine mist used as mentioned above.
I clarify, when i remember cause i use a sulfate poo weekly anyway.
Sorry for the long post, but my point was to keep an open mind with products. An all natural regimen was not working for my natural 4b hair. But i think i finally have a combination that works. My process is pretty much the same , but i had to play around with products. And so far so good. Good luck on your journey. It can be frustrating but just keep at it. And never try more than one new product at once.
HanaKuroi
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*SkolarStar* said:
I don't like the Shea moisture curling stuff at all. At all. I don't like how it does..... something.... or nothing. It is neutral? I can't explain.
I just always want people to eliminate that product.
I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y
faithVA
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I couldn't quite track down the moment of dryness. The conditioner seems to be the first issue. It feels good while on but not once rinsed. Usually that means its too thick or too heavy for the heavy so it's not penetrating.
