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[hnntrr]

Trying to wash my hair every other day now. I was daily cowashing while switching to CG method, but my head itches so much if i dont wash it daily. Not sure why.

My hair is doing alright I think. Its starting to form more curls but a lot of my hair just frizzes and looks all wild. I think I am going to look in doing a 5 minute protein treatment with EVOO & Morgina Nubian Heritage condish sometime this week. I cowashed with it on tuesday but I only left it on for a minute. My hair feels really soft, light, and springs back when I pull at some of the curls that do form.

Problems right now I am having are:

my edges (which as my hair is growing.... I think is a different texture than a majority of my hair...Solution: Gonna try some Jamacian Black Castor Oil daily massages. Especially near my temples. Also going to try at my nape, the hair there is so fine it breaks easily. without my doing much to it).

trying to figure out what may be giving me major itches on the day to day

also trying to control the frizziness of my hair


....all this until i twist my hair back up in about a week..but even then I have to figure out whats going on with my scalp so I am not washing the twists too much which will make them slip out. :O.

 

[faithVA]

hnntrr[/USER];18143397]Trying to wash my hair every other day now. I was daily cowashing while switching to CG method, but my head itches so much if i dont wash it daily. Not sure why.

My hair is doing alright I think. Its starting to form more curls but a lot of my hair just frizzes and looks all wild. I think I am going to look in doing a 5 minute protein treatment with EVOO & Morgina Nubian Heritage condish sometime this week. I cowashed with it on tuesday but I only left it on for a minute. My hair feels really soft, light, and springs back when I pull at some of the curls that do form.

Problems right now I am having are:

my edges (which as my hair is growing.... I think is a different texture than a majority of my hair...Solution: Gonna try some Jamacian Black Castor Oil daily massages. Especially near my temples. Also going to try at my nape, the hair there is so fine it breaks easily. without my doing much to it).

trying to figure out what may be giving me major itches on the day to day

also trying to control the frizziness of my hair


....all this until i twist my hair back up in about a week..but even then I have to figure out whats going on with my scalp so I am not washing the twists too much which will make them slip out. :O.

What products are you using again? Shampoo, conditioner, leave-in, moisturizer, oil? etc?

Some hair is just frizzy. But sometimes frizziness is a sign of dehydration. Those strands aren't able to get the water/moisture into them the way they need. Try using the protein conditioner as you had planned. I am not sure if it is a strong enough protein though. The Keratin in that product is pretty far down on the list. But it is worth a try.

 

[HanaKuroi]

Trying to wash my hair every other day now. I was daily cowashing while switching to CG method, but my head itches so much if i dont wash it daily. Not sure why.

My hair is doing alright I think. Its starting to form more curls but a lot of my hair just frizzes and looks all wild. I think I am going to look in doing a 5 minute protein treatment with EVOO & Morgina Nubian Heritage condish sometime this week. I cowashed with it on tuesday but I only left it on for a minute. My hair feels really soft, light, and springs back when I pull at some of the curls that do form.

Problems right now I am having are:

my edges (which as my hair is growing.... I think is a different texture than a majority of my hair...Solution: Gonna try some Jamacian Black Castor Oil daily massages. Especially near my temples. Also going to try at my nape, the hair there is so fine it breaks easily. without my doing much to it).

trying to figure out what may be giving me major itches on the day to day

also trying to control the frizziness of my hair

....all this until i twist my hair back up in about a week..but even then I have to figure out whats going on with my scalp so I am not washing the twists too much which will make them slip out. :O.

I started using millcreek botanicals keratin or biotin conditioner on my nape and edges almost every shower. My nape is fine/weak/delicate but it makes a huge difference. I also m/s after.

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[HanaKuroi]

The mill creek is around 7 dollars a bottle.

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[DarkJoy]

Bah! Think I will leave the crochet weaves alone for a while. I noticed yesterday I have some "permanent" parts leftover. Still! So I guess the hair broke along the cornrows in the bangs area. Thought I did everything right!

Installs for 2 weeks, hair rests loose 1 to 2 weeks between installs. Leave out sides and front every other install. Cornrows so loose I HAD to take down at 2 weeks because of unraveling. Cowashing and DC. M/S daily.

I honestly hate having fine fragile hair. Grrrrr

Eta: I also varied the number of cornrows so I wouldn't be digging in the same parts. One install would b 8 cornrows and the next 10. I was very conscious of that. Oh well.
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[HanaKuroi]

faithVA I haven't bought ion because I refuse to go back to the Sallys where I live. Those idiots know me and I always spent a lot of money when I went. Now they are trying to follow me around every single step I make.

I'll wait until visit family or order some.

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[faithVA]

HanaKuroi[/USER];18143683]faithVA I haven't bought ion because I refuse to go back to the Sallys where I live. Those idiots know me and I always spent a lot of money when I went. Now they are trying to follow me around every single step I make.

I'll wait until visit family or order some.

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Where did that come from? Are you having a flashback moment?

Do you have any old receipts? I think you should go back to the store and when they start following you turn to them and say what you just said to me. Then say Why are you following me around the store? Just do it for the fun of it.

I must look boring. No one ever follows me. I have the opposite problem. People just leave me up front by myself so when I'm ready to check out ain't nobody there

 

[HanaKuroi]

Where did that come from? Are you having a flashback moment?

Do you have any old receipts? I think you should go back to the store and when they start following you turn to them and say what you just said to me. Then say Why are you following me around the store? Just do it for the fun of it.

I must look boring. No one ever follows me. I have the opposite problem. People just leave me up front by myself so when I'm ready to check out ain't nobody there

I have been meaning to tell you this for a while. Lol

You asked me how I liked it long ago. I said I was going to buy some and tell you.

I didn't want you to think I disregarded your recommendation.

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[hnntrr]

What products are you using again? Shampoo, conditioner, leave-in, moisturizer, oil? etc?

Some hair is just frizzy. But sometimes frizziness is a sign of dehydration. Those strands aren't able to get the water/moisture into them the way they need. Try using the protein conditioner as you had planned. I am not sure if it is a strong enough protein though. The Keratin in that product is pretty far down on the list. But it is worth a try.

faithVA: not using any shampoo at all. last time i used shampoo was when i was switching to cg. i am using three different conditioners: One N Only Hydrating Masque for DC, AO WC for regular conditioning and As I Am Coconut Cowash for when I get small amounts of build up.
I am still experimenting between Giovanni Leave In and Shea moisture leave in but I am using a mix of : rosewater and glycerin, tea tree oil, argan oil, jojoba and honey in a spray bottle. Ive since stopped using coconut oil but I might start back cause the aforementioned ones i think might be too light while its still so cold.

And I just got the Nubian Heritage and used that on tuesday for 1 minute. I did notice my curls felt better in the shower (even though they flatten out a lot under water) but when i got out it was still super frizzy. I dont think there is any hydral fatique at all or that its over moisturized...but I could be too low on protein? I am scared to get a stronger treatment especially since that protein overload sucked. But they just opened a Sallys near my parents and go to my BSS and I am going to see if they have a stronger protein conditioner.

I plan on washing tonight when I get back to my apartment so hopefully something will happen...

 

[faithVA]

^^I think you told me. But I'm too lazy to go back through the thread to find it.

 

[HanaKuroi]

I should show up with my receipts and all those free totebags.

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[faithVA]

hnntrr[/USER];18143807]faithVA: not using any shampoo at all. last time i used shampoo was when i was switching to cg. i am using three different conditioners: One N Only Hydrating Masque for DC, AO WC for regular conditioning and As I Am Coconut Cowash for when I get small amounts of build up.
I am still experimenting between Giovanni Leave In and Shea moisture leave in but I am using a mix of : rosewater and glycerin, tea tree oil, argan oil, jojoba and honey in a spray bottle. Ive since stopped using coconut oil but I might start back cause the aforementioned ones i think might be too light while its still so cold.

And I just got the Nubian Heritage and used that on tuesday for 1 minute. I did notice my curls felt better in the shower (even though they flatten out a lot under water) but when i got out it was still super frizzy. I dont think there is any hydral fatique at all or that its over moisturized...but I could be too low on protein? I am scared to get a stronger treatment especially since that protein overload sucked. But they just opened a Sallys near my parents and go to my BSS and I am going to see if they have a stronger protein conditioner.

I plan on washing tonight when I get back to my apartment so hopefully something will happen...

Maybe you are just washing it too much. You don't have a cowash conditioner in your mix so what are you cowashing with when you wash every other day? The As I Am really is too harsh to cowash with that often. I know it says cowash but it is still a cleanser.

 

[faithVA]

I should show up with my receipts and all those free totebags.

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I think you should. Put them on blast. They will never forget you and never bother you again.

 

[hnntrr]

Maybe you are just washing it too much. You don't have a cowash conditioner in your mix so what are you cowashing with when you wash every other day? The As I Am really is too harsh to cowash with that often. I know it says cowash but it is still a cleanser.

Maybe? Washing eliminated the itching and my head is pretty much always itchy. Like always. Its always been a problem, when I was washing and flat ironing once a week it wasnt as bad as it is now....but normally it would go away right after my relaxer and not get itchy again till I was close to my touch up. since i hvnt gotten another relaxer my head just itches forever. Thus washing eliminates the itchy. Although I didnt wash it last night i just sprayed some water on it an rebraided it...and its killin me.

I only use As I am when I am washing out the eco styler, which depends on if I bantu that week (which also means I wash more often cause my hair doesny hold curls past day two even if i two strand knot them and put my hair up). So mostly I use One N Only or AO.

I could be washing too much, no idea all I know is it helps my scalp not itch. Doesnt matter what products I use it still itches all the time. Uhg this is frustrating.
I might flat iron tonight to keep myself from washing it for a few days and see if that helps.

 

[soulglo]

my little curls are starting to pop as my hair gets longer

but my issue is that i believe the cause of my hair bubbling/splitting is because of my hair swelling from water

does anyone habe any solutions? *have

maybe i should start doing a hot oil treatment with olive oil before shampooing again :/

my hair doesn't like coconut oil btw

 

[faithVA]

hnntrr[/USER];18143997]Maybe? Washing eliminated the itching and my head is pretty much always itchy. Like always. Its always been a problem, when I was washing and flat ironing once a week it wasnt as bad as it is now....but normally it would go away right after my relaxer and not get itchy again till I was close to my touch up. since i hvnt gotten another relaxer my head just itches forever. Thus washing eliminates the itchy. Although I didnt wash it last night i just sprayed some water on it an rebraided it...and its killin me.

I only use As I am when I am washing out the eco styler, which depends on if I bantu that week (which also means I wash more often cause my hair doesny hold curls past day two even if i two strand knot them and put my hair up). So mostly I use One N Only or AO.

I could be washing too much, no idea all I know is it helps my scalp not itch. Doesnt matter what products I use it still itches all the time. Uhg this is frustrating.
I might flat iron tonight to keep myself from washing it for a few days and see if that helps.

Maybe you should try a scalp detox with either a mudwash or making your own with some bentonite clay.

 

[faithVA]

my little curls are starting to pop as my hair gets longer

but my issue is that i believe the cause of my hair bubbling/splitting is because of my hair swelling from water

does anyone habe any solutions? *have

maybe i should start doing a hot oil treatment with olive oil before shampooing again :/

my hair doesn't like coconut oil btw

I think any ceramide oil would work as a prepoo to reduce the amount of water getting into your strands. Doing a hot oil will help if you are experiencing hygral fatigue (sp).

 

[soulglo]

Trying to wash my hair every other day now. I was daily cowashing while switching to CG method, but my head itches so much if i dont wash it daily. Not sure why.

My hair is doing alright I think. Its starting to form more curls but a lot of my hair just frizzes and looks all wild. I think I am going to look in doing a 5 minute protein treatment with EVOO & Morgina Nubian Heritage condish sometime this week. I cowashed with it on tuesday but I only left it on for a minute. My hair feels really soft, light, and springs back when I pull at some of the curls that do form.

Problems right now I am having are:

my edges (which as my hair is growing.... I think is a different texture than a majority of my hair...Solution: Gonna try some Jamacian Black Castor Oil daily massages. Especially near my temples. Also going to try at my nape, the hair there is so fine it breaks easily. without my doing much to it).

trying to figure out what may be giving me major itches on the day to day

also trying to control the frizziness of my hair

....all this until i twist my hair back up in about a week..but even then I have to figure out whats going on with my scalp so I am not washing the twists too much which will make them slip out. :O.

lol funny because i'm having the same issue with my hair having some curls/clumping but it still being a bush

 

[Kiowa]

I'm officially naming my hair 'struggle hair'
...now that the weather is at least trying to warm up a bit,I'm in the gym twice a day...first thing in morn, and last thing at night...and my hair is hating it, at night I do hit the sauna after my workout, and put a plastic baggie over my hair...thought my hair would like it, since I do steam at home with a steamer, but its been acting limp/and weak afterwards
Being doing JBCO and alternate with Liquid Gold massages, but apart from the gym,that is all I have changed in my regime..

 

[soulglo]

I'm officially naming my hair 'struggle hair'
...now that the weather is at least trying to warm up a bit,I'm in the gym twice a day...first thing in morn, and last thing at night...and my hair is hating it, at night I do hit the sauna after my workout, and put a plastic baggie over my hair...thought my hair would like it, since I do steam at home with a steamer, but its been acting limp/and weak afterwards
Being doing JBCO and alternate with Liquid Gold massages, but apart from the gym,that is all I have changed in my regime..

maybe it's protein time

 

[hnntrr]

faithVA

Ah!!, thank you so much for your suggestion, my hair was starting to get over moisturized. I went and bought 4 naturals reconstructor and l let it set on my hair for 5 minutes and my hair def felt stronger and was not as frizzy, it was smoother and shiny. and I toweled dry with a 100% cotton shirt and not my terry cloth towel (ick)!!!

I could really see the forming curls better. so I am doing the LOC with shea moisture leave in, and I only cowashed once wi th the 4 naturals. so this is my hair with LOC and eco styler since I am bantu knoting. But I think I will need to do protein one a week or bi weekly.

Anyway here are some pics! Thanks again so much.

Sorry the pics are so poopy. My ipad sucks. I tried not to pull and just lift them so you can see them. Hopefully that worked.


eta: i also think due to this result i may be mistaking a possible wirey/thready/spongy texture for frizzyness? hmm I saw some pictures of wirey thready coarse hair and that looked similar to how mine dries/looks when wet.

 

[faithVA]

maybe it's protein time

Agree. Steaming and sauna is a lot of moisture. It may be time for some balance.

 

[faithVA]

faithVA

Ah!!, thank you so much for your suggestion, my hair was starting to get over moisturized. I went and bought 4 naturals reconstructor and l let it set on my hair for 5 minutes and my hair def felt stronger and was not as frizzy, it was smoother and shiny. and I toweled dry with a 100% cotton shirt and not my terry cloth towel (ick)!!!

I could really see the forming curls better. so I am doing the LOC with shea moisture leave in, and I only cowashed once wi th the 4 naturals. so this is my hair with LOC and eco styler since I am bantu knoting. But I think I will need to do protein one a week or bi weekly.

Anyway here are some pics! Thanks again so much.

Sorry the pics are so poopy. My ipad sucks. I tried not to pull and just lift them so you can see them. Hopefully that worked.


eta: i also think due to this result i may be mistaking a possible wirey/thready/spongy texture for frizzyness? hmm I saw some pictures of wirey thready coarse hair and that looked similar to how mine dries/looks when wet.

I don't know if I suggested it to you or not but I will take credit for it I am glad that you picked up the 4 Naturals Reconstructor. I've only used it once but it seemed to have worked well. I will be using it again this weekend.

I am doing every other week for right now because that is the recommendation from 4 Naturals. They have you alternating the reconstructor conditioner with the moisturizing conditioner. You may want to start with that to see if it is enough. If its not you can always increase it to weekly.

 

[Incredible1ne]

Did you do a semi-permanent or permanent color?

It is a permanent color but I'm been extra on it as far as moisturizing now.

 

[faithVA]

It is a permanent color but I'm been extra on it as far as moisturizing now.

You may want to do a reconstructor at least once since it is a chemical treatment.

I usually do permanent as well since my hair is graying. I am going to try a semi-permanent one more time to see if I can get it to work and try to leave the permanent to once or twice a year.

 

[DarkJoy]

Since my hair has to be free for a while (due to the breakage from cornrows) who here has used Aphogee as a natural? I see it in my BSS. I cant remember if any naturals are using it/have used it. Results? What about silk proteins? My hair loved silk relaxed. Have yet to try it on my puff. They are expensive here, so I wanna make an informed choice for my 'fro.

I Need more than eggs. My hair is now way more accepting since I cut of the color damage. Wouldnt even accept eggs before without turning into a hay stack...

Advice?

 

[faithVA]

^^I tried the Aphogee 2 min. It worked well my hair felt stronger. But my hair started shedding extra which scared me so I didn't use it anymore. Haven't used anything else in the line mostly because of the ingredients.

Not familiar with silk proteins.

 

[DarkJoy]

Oooo... that makes me nervous being a heavy shedder naturally... never really looked at the ingredients... I will take your word for it. lol. No Aphogee. I hope for mostly natural-ish products. I can make some concessions for this one type of hair product. 'Cones would be the only absolute NO. Cones have my hair break off fiercely for weeks, which I know I've written those experiences as they happened in this very thread.

 

[faithVA]

Oooo... that makes me nervous being a heavy shedder naturally... never really looked at the ingredients... I will take your word for it. lol. No Aphogee. I hope for mostly natural-ish products. I can make some concessions for this one type of hair product. 'Cones would be the only absolute NO. Cones have my hair break off fiercely for weeks, which I know I've written those experiences as they happened in this very thread.

If you are looking at reconstructors

I have used the ION Reconstructor. Worked well. It has parabens though.
Also used the ION Effective Care. Liked it. Don't remember the ingredients.

I am now using 4 Naturals Reconstructor. It doesn't have any no no ingredients. I like this entire line.

If you are willing to order online, I hear that Shescentits Okra is a great choice.

Giovanni also has Nutrafix which you may be able to get at Target. And that line is pretty natural. I have this in my stash but haven't used it yet. But I hear it is good as well.

 

[HanaKuroi]

DarkJoy I have mill creek keratin in my hair as I type. I use it a few times a week. I don't know how strong it is.

I will look for the ingredients. Brb

Biotin: Deionized water, biotin, panthenol (provitamin B5), hydrolyzed keratin, hydrolyzed collagen, cetyl alcohol, stearyl alcohol, dicetyldimonium chloride, oleamidopropyl dimethylamine, cetearyl alcohol, ceteareth-20, hydrolyzed glycosaminoglycans, retinyl palmitate (vitamin A), citric acid, corn oil, sodium chloride, quaternium-15, peppermint oil, *organic aloe vera gel, organic essential oil, citric acid, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, botanical fragrance.

Jojoba: Deionized Water, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Cottonseed Oil, Panthenol (Provitamin B5), Balsam Peru, Olive Oil, Retinyl Palmitate (Vitamin A), Tocopherol (Vitamin E), Rosemary Extract, Barley Extract, Stearalkonium Chloride (Fiber base content), Glyceryl Stearate, Glycerin, Cetyl Alcohol, Octyl Dimethyl PABA PEG-100 Stearate, Sodium Caseinate, Sodium Hydroxide, Corn Oil, *Organic Aloe Vera Gel, Citric Acid, Organic Essential Oil, Caramel, Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Benzoate, Botanical Fragrance.

Keratin: Deionized Water, Jojoba Oil, Panthenol (Provitamin B5), Hydrolyzed Keratin, Allantoin, Niacin, Retinyl Palmitate (Vitamin A), Cholecalciferol (Vitamin D3), Stearalkonium Chloride (Fiber base content), Beet Extract, Barley Extract, Cetyl Alcohol, Folic Acid, Citric Acid, Octyl Dimethyl PABA, Corn Oil, Disodium EDTA, *Organic Aloe Vera Gel, Organic Essential Oil, Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Benzoate, Botanical Fragrance.

I layer the nutrifix on top because it is slippy.



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