Relaxed Heads: How many weeks post relaxer are you and when is your next touch up???

Is this being allowed now? @beverly @dimopoulos

This person is obviously a Nutree representative posting all over the hair forum and advertising their products.
Please, calm down and skip my thread in case you are not interested in my advice,
I'm not offering to purchase you something from the brand, but I have a license in haircare procedures,
so I'm a legit person in the thread.
Have a nice day!

Don't forget that k18 is owned by the Unilever brand, but no one feels confused about discussing the product here.
 
Did my 3rd K18 Treatment post Relaxer.

May do 2-3 more and then back to regular scheduled programming (Protein/Moisture Regimen).
How does your hair feel? I felt like 4 treatments was the happy number when I felt a real difference.

I should probably wash and dc my hair today…

Oh also I used the ignore feature for the first time and it seems to be working.
 
I think I’m officially giving up on K18. It’s a useless product for me. I’m five consecutive treatments into this round, and the only positive thing it does for my hair is make it feel soft—almost too soft, like moisture overload. I still feel that it actually increases breakage for me and certainly does nothing to stop breakage. Over the past five weeks, I’ve had to incorporate protein and other strengthening treatments into my regimen to prevent my hair from completely deteriorating while I experimented with this treatment again. If a $44 per ounce repairing treatment doesn’t stop or reduce breakage, then what’s the point?

The more I look at the science behind it, the less it makes sense. It claims to work by repairing the peptide chains in the innermost layer of the hair. That’s nice, but if the outer layers are damaged, how is fixing that little polypeptide chain going to help significantly if the cuticle and cortex have been compromised? I feel that those are the areas that really suffer damage when we relax our hair. Most damage happens from the outside in, with the hair being worn away from the cuticle layer to the internal structure. The polypeptide chain would likely be fine if we can fortify those external layers. So, yeah… I don’t really get this product. I honestly believe there is a bit of snake oil being sold here. It’s claiming to do something that none of us can really prove it does.

I told myself I’d do the six applications this time, but I think I’ve seen all this product has to offer me. I’m going to do a full henna mask tomorrow—something I know actually strengthens the hair and reduces breakage.
 
@Theresamonet ok so your a scientist in another life that’s the only plausible answer. You know your hair and what should be occurring with a product. I tried the K18 and didn’t see much if anything positive that natural and relaxed. I get everything isn’t for all but at the price point it’s wild. I’m kinda feeling that way about olaplex please no shots fired.
 
@Theresamonet ok so your a scientist in another life that’s the only plausible answer. You know your hair and what should be occurring with a product. I tried the K18 and didn’t see much if anything positive that natural and relaxed. I get everything isn’t for all but at the price point it’s wild. I’m kinda feeling that way about olaplex please no shots fired.

If you keep calling me a scientist, people are going to think I actually know something. :lol: I’m just trying to make some educated guesses.

I feel similarly about Olaplex. I’ve been using Olaplex for years, both when my hair was natural and now that it’s relaxed, and I can’t clearly point out the effect it’s had on my hair. I continue using it because it hasn’t caused any damage and—just in case. I also think that damage to the bonds in the cortex is a much more likely occurrence (for me) than damage to the polypeptide chains, so using Olaplex seems potentially more beneficial. But in general, there seems to be a rise in very expensive “just in case” products. Companies are saying, “Just trust us, the science shows it’s working on a super-duper microscopic level, even if you don’t see any difference in your hair. :look: ” That’s snake oil sales pitch 101.
 
If you keep calling me a scientist, people are going to think I actually know something. :lol: I’m just trying to make some educated guesses.

I feel similarly about Olaplex. I’ve been using Olaplex for years, both when my hair was natural and now that it’s relaxed, and I can’t clearly point out the effect it’s had on my hair. I continue using it because it hasn’t caused any damage and—just in case. I also think that damage to the bonds in the cortex is a much more likely occurrence (for me) than damage to the polypeptide chains, so using Olaplex seems potentially more beneficial. But in general, there seems to be a rise in very expensive “just in case” products. Companies are saying, “Just trust us, the science shows it’s working on a super-duper microscopic level, even if you don’t see any difference in your hair. :look: ” That’s snake oil sales pitch 101.
Your educated guesses are far more grounded than some faux scientific back stories.

I liked Olaplex until I got sent some Redken acidic line and the first shampoo my hair felt like fall off the bone ribs. I was speechless and was like hmm Ola what are you doing for me?! I still have quite a bit so once it’s used up it won’t be a rebuy.

I do some consumer product testing on occasion and sometimes they ask about new brands and their pitch and the ones trying to bolster on 3 strands of science turn me off.
 
@Plushottie I think Redken Acidic is also a good Product :up:

@Theresamonet My use of both Olaplex and K-18 is trying to ward-off any potential damage when my Stylist is relaxes my hair.

So far, for me, it hasn't done anything detrimental. I'll use them up and re-evaluate if they are needed/necessary.

I also rotate these with Curlsmith and Redken on occasion too.

And still do a solid Protein/Moisture Regimen the weeks after K-18.
 
2 weeks post and will relax at 12 weeks.

Heck, I might even go back to ORS since it's available everywhere and other brands are leaving me under-processed as well.

Thanks for posting about y'alls experience with other products. Redken is definitely in my radar to try during my next Ulta visit.
 

I had to go back and read why you did this and I wholeheartedly agree. Yes, we discuss different treatments, but we don't bash relaxers. :rolleyes:

We are the most well read and researched hair folks out there. We know the risks. Shoo, I'd do more damage to my hair and scalp (and ears, neck, arms) with a curling iron! :lachen: I have zero skills. But, I can do my homework on my own haircare and make my own decisions.

Know your audience and speak to them with respect. :peace:
 
I had to go back and read why you did this and I wholeheartedly agree. Yes, we discuss different treatments, but we don't bash relaxers. :rolleyes:

We are the most well read and researched hair folks out there. We know the risks. Shoo, I'd do more damage to my hair and scalp (and ears, neck, arms) with a curling iron! :lachen: I have zero skills. But, I can do my homework on my own haircare and make my own decisions.

Know your audience and speak to them with respect. :peace:

I found their post in here to be very condescending. We don’t need advice from people “licensed in haircare procedures” ( :rolleyes: ), if their input comes with an agenda. This type of promotion used to not be allowed. What happened to forum Mods??
 
Ok so for those who do use heat how long on avg does it take for you to blow dry? I’m watching a YouTuber who said it took her 30 mins granted her hair is a nice length and thick ish.

It only takes me about 10 minutes to blow dry my hair. My hair is BSL and medium density. I use a Dyson Airwrap with a firm brush attachment. I also don’t blow dry starting with soaking wet hair, I air dry to about 50-60% first.
 
Ok so for those who do use heat how long on avg does it take for you to blow dry? I’m watching a YouTuber who said it took her 30 mins granted her hair is a nice length and thick ish.
I blow dry with a rev air or Dyson w/ smoothing attachment and either is still 30-45 minutes for me. It’s less about speed since I’m typically detangling in the sections as I go. If I’m any faster it’s usually because I’m ripping my hair out. I also blow dry on mostly wet hair for a smoother result.
 
I'm a few hours post. From the looks of it, you wouldn't be able to tell unless my hair got wet :laugh:

That's probably my fault cause I don't leave the relaxer on more than 8 minutes. I gets the scary cat. If I could figure out this sweaty, itchy nape situation I'd be ok cause I could wear buns. I might have to start leaving some hair out or something in the buns.
 
6 weeks post and 6 to go. Plan to begin a blow dry routine around 10 weeks post.

Ordering more ORS Carrot Oil and will go ahead and order an ORS relaxer while I'm at it. Might as well since all other relaxers I've tried leave me under-processed. Maybe that's my new normal while dealing with this perimenopause crap. :rolleyes:
 
6 weeks post and 6 to go. Plan to begin a blow dry routine around 10 weeks post.

Ordering more ORS Carrot Oil and will go ahead and order an ORS relaxer while I'm at it. Might as well since all other relaxers I've tried leave me under-processed. Maybe that's my new normal while dealing with this perimenopause crap. :rolleyes:

Wow this is big for you because you don't use heat do you. Why are you wanting to use heat now is it just to manage the NG?
 
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