PROTEIN IS MY FRIEND

[deusa80]

This probably has been brought up somewhere in this thread, but there's a lot posts to go through...

Are you ladies using protein and then following up with a DC, or just using protein treatments alone and maybe alternating between protein treatments and DC?

 

[jreagins]

Yeah I liked using it without following up with moisture. Keep us posted on the mendex. I never used it. Curious to know how it works. Can't stop saying your hair is so thick and pretty

Thanks alot! I will keep you guys posted... its weird i dont think i ever had this much breakage until I tried to start fixing the little that I was having.. either that or its time to let these relaxed ends go...

 

[Patricia]

This probably has been brought up somewhere in this thread, but there's a lot posts to go through...

Are you ladies using protein and then following up with a DC, or just using protein treatments alone and maybe alternating between protein treatments and DC?

Hello deusa80, thanks for asking. I can say personally ALL OF THE ABOVE. Sometimes my hair feels great after a protein treatment so I don't do anything else, sometimes it feels a little dry after a protein treatment so I DC with a moisturizer. Sometimes.........So basically it depends on how my hair feels after I rinse the treatment. Some ladies might have a strict regimine. This is just me.

 

[Patricia]

Thanks alot! I will keep you guys posted... its weird i dont think i ever had this much breakage until I tried to start fixing the little that I was having.. either that or its time to let these relaxed ends go...

Are you going natural?

 

[deusa80]

Hello deusa80, thanks for asking. I can say personally ALL OF THE ABOVE. Sometimes my hair feels great after a protein treatment so I don't do anything else, sometimes it feels a little dry after a protein treatment so I DC with a moisturizer. Sometimes.........So basically it depends on how my hair feels after I rinse the treatment. Some ladies might have a strict regimine. This is just me.

Thanks so much. I think I really need to figure out how my hair should feel... at the moment I can't tell whether it needs more protein or whether it needs more moisture...I just always assume I need moisture..hopefully I can figure it out soon enough! Until then I guess I'll just continue alternating between protein and moisture..

 

[Patricia]

Thanks so much. I think I really need to figure out how my hair should feel... at the moment I can't tell whether it needs more protein or whether it needs more moisture...I just always assume I need moisture..hopefully I can figure it out soon enough! Until then I guess I'll just continue alternating between protein and moisture..

Sound like you doing something right cause you will know! When my hair feels weak and comes out in long strands. I need protein. When my hair feels really dry. I need moisture. Usually but don't hold me to that

 

[Golden75]

This probably has been brought up somewhere in this thread, but there's a lot posts to go through...

Are you ladies using protein and then following up with a DC, or just using protein treatments alone and maybe alternating between protein treatments and DC?

I always apply a moisturizing DC after my protein. The only time I did not feel the need (but did for other reasons) was after using AO GPB. My hair was soft enough, and any more softnes would probably bring me to the "dark side of moisture overload". So it really depends on how hard or soft your protein is, and how your hair feels. Reading back at your post: Treatment--when you say treatment to you mean the "hard core" like Aphogee 2 step, Dudleys DRC? If so, then probably would, but I never used those or am I reading too much into your post?

 

[deusa80]

I always apply a moisturizing DC after my protein. The only time I did not feel the need (but did for other reasons) was after using AO GPB. My hair was soft enough, and any more softnes would probably bring me to the "dark side of moisture overload". So it really depends on how hard or soft your protein is, and how your hair feels. Reading back at your post: Treatment--when you say treatment to you mean the "hard core" like Aphogee 2 step, Dudleys DRC? If so, then probably would, but I never used those or am I reading too much into your post?

I was referring to mild treatments I guess, something like Aphogee 2 minute treatment. If you're talking about the other Aphogee 2 step treatment that's pretty "hard core" that one tells you to follow up with the moisterizing conditioner...but since the milder ones never mention to follow up, I wasn't sure. The only mild ones I've ever tried are the Aphogee 2 min and the At one reconstructer(which I think is a mild protein?). I usually just used those alone without bothering to follow up with a DC.

 

[Loves Harmony]

I love this thread/ I went through all of the pages thinking that i join but i notice that i didnt. I was wondering is it to late to join? If not i would love to.

 

[taz007]

YES, PROTEIN IS MY FRIEND!

I have always washed my hair, followed by a reconstructor, followed by a moisturizing dc and have about 15 hairs come out in the comb.

Today, I did the same minus the moisturizing dc (or any other moisture) and used the Aphogee green tea reconstructor and I kid you not, I had ZERO hair in my comb.

Protein is a keeper!

 

[Aggie]

I texlaxed my hair on Thursday and I added 3 Tbs of Silk Amino Acid and 3 Tbs of grapeseed oil to about 8oz of my Mizani Butter Blend mild strength lye relaxer and applied to my hair for about 12-13 minutes. It came out nice and strong. I also did a 5 minute Duo Tex protein treatment after washing out the relaxer but before neutralizing my hair. Amazing results. I had maybe 4 hairs in the comb because I was combing it while wet but when it was dried, zero hair in the comb.

Also on Friday I went to my stylist and had her give me a long needed trim. I've attached the pics here. Notice the BIG difference in the shine of my hair from the increased amount of protein treatments. Thing is, my stylist didn't even add anything to add shine to it. I will be keeping my protien treatments mild to moderate only from now on (anything I can use safely weekly) and I am staying away from the hardcore stuff because I really don't feel I need them.

 

[morehairplease]

looking good Aggie! Now, I want to try the butter blends.

Deep conditioned with Lanza healing strength and neutral protein filler yesterday while cleaning the house. My hair feels and looks like a 10. I did not get one single hair in the comb and I am beyond excited about that.

 

[jreagins]

LAST NIGHT I SPRITZED MY HAIR BEFORE BED WITH MY MOISTURE MIX AND I HAD HAIR ALL OVER MY HANDS!!! WTF?!?!?! IN MY WHOLE YEAR AND A HALF OF TAKING CARE OF MY HAIR IVE NEVER HAD THIS PROBLEM... ***OFF TO SALLY'S***

 

[Patricia]

I always apply a moisturizing DC after my protein. The only time I did not feel the need (but did for other reasons) was after using AO GPB. My hair was soft enough, and any more softnes would probably bring me to the "dark side of moisture overload". So it really depends on how hard or soft your protein is, and how your hair feels. Reading back at your post: Treatment--when you say treatment to you mean the "hard core" like Aphogee 2 step, Dudleys DRC? If so, then probably would, but I never used those or am I reading too much into your post?

Yeah it basically depends on how your hair feels after your protein product. Some are very moisturizing too. For me the 2 min is moisturizing enough. for others its not.

 

[Patricia]

I was referring to mild treatments I guess, something like Aphogee 2 minute treatment. If you're talking about the other Aphogee 2 step treatment that's pretty "hard core" that one tells you to follow up with the moisterizing conditioner...but since the milder ones never mention to follow up, I wasn't sure. The only mild ones I've ever tried are the Aphogee 2 min and the At one reconstructer(which I think is a mild protein?). I usually just used those alone without bothering to follow up with a DC.

yep the mild protein don't have to be followed with moisture..but thats me!

 

[Patricia]

I love this thread/ I went through all of the pages thinking that i join but i notice that i didnt. I was wondering is it to late to join? If not i would love to.

Its not to late to join. This will be going all 2009. I'll add you. WelcomeWhat type of product do you use?

 

[Patricia]

YES, PROTEIN IS MY FRIEND!

I have always washed my hair, followed by a reconstructor, followed by a moisturizing dc and have about 15 hairs come out in the comb.

Today, I did the same minus the moisturizing dc (or any other moisture) and used the Aphogee green tea reconstructor and I kid you not, I had ZERO hair in my comb.

Protein is a keeper!

Good to hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Patricia]

I texlaxed my hair on Thursday and I added 3 Tbs of Silk Amino Acid and 3 Tbs of grapeseed oil to about 8oz of my Mizani Butter Blend mild strength lye relaxer and applied to my hair for about 12-13 minutes. It came out nice and strong. I also did a 5 minute Duo Tex protein treatment after washing out the relaxer but before neutralizing my hair. Amazing results. I had maybe 4 hairs in the comb because I was combing it while wet but when it was dried, zero hair in the comb.

Also on Friday I went to my stylist and had her give me a long needed trim. I've attached the pics here. Notice the BIG difference in the shine of my hair from the increased amount of protein treatments. Thing is, my stylist didn't even add anything to add shine to it. I will be keeping my protien treatments mild to moderate only from now on (anything I can use safely weekly) and I am staying away from the hardcore stuff because I really don't feel I need them.

Oh my your hair looks so healthy. You did a great job relaxing. Your cut makes is look fabulous. I need a professional cut too. I know what you mean. I'm going for the moderate protein too. I'm pretty sure I don't need the hardcore doing this. I'm very impressed you had no hairs coming out.

 

[Patricia]

looking good Aggie! Now, I want to try the butter blends.

Deep conditioned with Lanza healing strength and neutral protein filler yesterday while cleaning the house. My hair feels and looks like a 10. I did not get one single hair in the comb and I am beyond excited about that.

Ok I'm excited!Tell me more about the lanza healing.....never heard of it.

 

[Patricia]

LAST NIGHT I SPRITZED MY HAIR BEFORE BED WITH MY MOISTURE MIX AND I HAD HAIR ALL OVER MY HANDS!!! WTF?!?!?! IN MY WHOLE YEAR AND A HALF OF TAKING CARE OF MY HAIR IVE NEVER HAD THIS PROBLEM... ***OFF TO SALLY'S***

Listen to this. You know I havent aced it yet. I'm a work in progress. When I used my joico kpac without following up with moisture tuesday(cause my hair was feeling good ) I put in ponytail, stocking cap and let airdry over night. I took my hair down and it was so bouncyI was so excited I wore it like that without any product. I put my hair in one braid every night and took it down in the morning. Today I took my hair down and decided to put my NTM in my hair not because my hair was feeling dry but out of habit. When I went to grab my hair I got a lot of long hairs in my hand. Maybe it was shed hairs maybe not. But that havent happened all week when I used no product. I immediately grabbed my aphogee green tea and sprayed my whole head. I just left my hair alone after that. I hope I'm not panicking but my hair in wet stage seems to come right out of my head. I'm going to try not to use product again and report my findings back. My hair is fine right now but I just went to panic mode when long hair was coming out when I lost no hairs since tuesday. The reason why I didn't put product in my hair cause I was reading Chichelle post about her regimine and experiences.......I was just testing the waters cause she said she basically don't use any products other than shampoo and conditioner(I think she said conditioner) I need to read it again I hate to try to quote someone and get it wrong. Anyway what she said was very valuable information that I needed to hear. I'm pretty sure she says she don't moisturize either(I'll check it again).

 

[jreagins]

Listen to this. You know I havent aced it yet. I'm a work in progress. When I used my joico kpac without following up with moisture tuesday(cause my hair was feeling good ) I put in ponytail, stocking cap and let airdry over night. I took my hair down and it was so bouncyI was so excited I wore it like that without any product. I put my hair in one braid every night and took it down in the morning. Today I took my hair down and decided to put my NTM in my hair not because my hair was feeling dry but out of habit. When I went to grab my hair I got a lot of long hairs in my hand. Maybe it was shed hairs maybe not. But that havent happened all week when I used no product. I immediately grabbed my aphogee green tea and sprayed my whole head. I just left my hair alone after that. I hope I'm not panicking but my hair in wet stage seems to come right out of my head. I'm going to try not to use product again and report my findings back. My hair is fine right now but I just went to panic mode when long hair was coming out when I lost no hairs since tuesday. The reason why I didn't put product in my hair cause I was reading Chichelle post about her regimine and experiences.......I was just testing the waters cause she said she basically don't use any products other than shampoo and conditioner(I think she said conditioner) I need to read it again I hate to try to quote someone and get it wrong. Anyway what she said was very valuable information that I needed to hear. I'm pretty sure she says she don't moisturize either(I'll check it again).

@ first bolded::: I know that mine were not sheds... ugh!!!
@ second bolded::: now that my hai ris dry it seem fine, when i run my fingers down the length of the section, pulling on it kind of hard, no hairs... but last night?!? oh boy... I know my hair should be alot stronger than this when its wet!!!

 

[morehairplease]

Ok I'm excited!Tell me more about the lanza healing.....never heard of it.

Hey there sweetie,

ShiShiPoo did a rave review of this last year and I jumped right on it . Initially, I purchased the healing moisture set and feel in love:heart2: with it but noticed that my hair was a little too soft after using it. I purchased the healing strength line to alternate between the two for my weekly washes and I have actually found my staple shampoo and conditioner . Both lines have a great balance of moisture and protein in my opinion and with the addition of the neutral protein filler it makes me hair feel like I am on . Also, both the shampoos are sulfate free and my hair does not feel dry/stripped after using either . I am still looking for my staple hair moisturizer though(Lanza doesn't make a moisturizer ). Hopefully by the end of the year, I will be using the Lanza line elxclusively(with the exception of my relaxer, moisturizer, and protein filler).

 

[jreagins]

Sooo. I went to Sallys and bought 2 99cent bottles of the roux mendex hair repair treatment... Used it on dry hair with plastic cap for 10 minutes with heat... Rinsed applied my DC and detangled... My hair felt really heavy and my curls were popping like crazy!!! Wet, my hair is a 10!! I'll rollerset and let you know how it acts dry...

 

[november wind]

Thank goodness for this thread! Hope you don't mind me throwing in my two cents about my experience.

Since it looks like I'm gonna have to cut my hair anyways (see siggy), I am experimenting with the protein/moisture balance. Last night I prepooed with coconut oil. This morning I used Hair One Cleanser, combed it through, then after rinsing put Joico K-Pac combined with Aphogee 2 Min Reconstructor on damp hair for about 5 minutes. DC with a mixture of Joico Moisture Recovery and Joico K-Pac Moisture for 90 minutes without heat. Rinsed with cold water, applied Aphogee Green Tea and Keratin spray from root to tip. When my hair was 80% dry I used a small amount of GVP Thickening Liquid on my ends.

My hair is not only feeling soft, but it's strong and I think it looks a little thicker (could be wishful thinking on my part). There was no hair in my Denman, which is a first! It's weird, because my edges feel like I just got a relaxer. Probably a fluke, but it's still amazing. I think I may have found my regimine. This experience was definitely a 10

 

[tgrowe]

I texlaxed my hair on Thursday and I added 3 Tbs of Silk Amino Acid and 3 Tbs of grapeseed oil to about 8oz of my Mizani Butter Blend mild strength lye relaxer and applied to my hair for about 12-13 minutes. It came out nice and strong. I also did a 5 minute Duo Tex protein treatment after washing out the relaxer but before neutralizing my hair. Amazing results. I had maybe 4 hairs in the comb because I was combing it while wet but when it was dried, zero hair in the comb.

Also on Friday I went to my stylist and had her give me a long needed trim. I've attached the pics here. Notice the BIG difference in the shine of my hair from the increased amount of protein treatments. Thing is, my stylist didn't even add anything to add shine to it. I will be keeping my protien treatments mild to moderate only from now on (anything I can use safely weekly) and I am staying away from the hardcore stuff because I really don't feel I need them.

Hey Aggie, niiiiiiccce progress lady. Your hair is beautiful. Are you 100% texlaxed? I have never done protein treatments after my relaxers but when or if I relax again, that is def a step I will not miss.

 

[jreagins]

Sooooo. My hair is feeling alot better!!! I took my rollers out and my hair was completely dry, (rarely ever happens) it was drying really quick when I was rollersetting too (is that normal?). So I combed out over the sink again and there were maybe 8 broken hairs (didnt count), but none on my hands... My hair is a perfect 10!!! (how do I post pics?)

Moral of the story: My hair needed a protien treatment instead of just a conditioner?

 

[Patricia]

@ first bolded::: I know that mine were not sheds... ugh!!!
@ second bolded::: now that my hai ris dry it seem fine, when i run my fingers down the length of the section, pulling on it kind of hard, no hairs... but last night?!? oh boy... I know my hair should be alot stronger than this when its wet!!!

Sent you PM I think I goofed and sent it 2x

 

[Patricia]

Hey there sweetie,

ShiShiPoo did a rave review of this last year and I jumped right on it . Initially, I purchased the healing moisture set and feel in love:heart2: with it but noticed that my hair was a little too soft after using it. I purchased the healing strength line to alternate between the two for my weekly washes and I have actually found my staple shampoo and conditioner . Both lines have a great balance of moisture and protein in my opinion and with the addition of the neutral protein filler it makes me hair feel like I am on . Also, both the shampoos are sulfate free and my hair does not feel dry/stripped after using either . I am still looking for my staple hair moisturizer though(Lanza doesn't make a moisturizer ). Hopefully by the end of the year, I will be using the Lanza line elxclusively(with the exception of my relaxer, moisturizer, and protein filler).

All that was cute Do sallys sell it or do you order it online?

 

[Patricia]

Thank goodness for this thread! Hope you don't mind me throwing in my two cents about my experience.

Since it looks like I'm gonna have to cut my hair anyways (see siggy), I am experimenting with the protein/moisture balance. Last night I prepooed with coconut oil. This morning I used Hair One Cleanser, combed it through, then after rinsing put Joico K-Pac combined with Aphogee 2 Min Reconstructor on damp hair for about 5 minutes. DC with a mixture of Joico Moisture Recovery and Joico K-Pac Moisture for 90 minutes without heat. Rinsed with cold water, applied Aphogee Green Tea and Keratin spray from root to tip. When my hair was 80% dry I used a small amount of GVP Thickening Liquid on my ends.

My hair is not only feeling soft, but it's strong and I think it looks a little thicker (could be wishful thinking on my part). There was no hair in my Denman, which is a first! It's weird, because my edges feel like I just got a relaxer. Probably a fluke, but it's still amazing. I think I may have found my regimine. This experience was definitely a 10

Awesome!
Why do you have to cut your hair. A member here Chicoro recommends you wait until your short hairs catch up. I'm finally taking her advice. We love to hear results like that. Please come back and share. We can learn a lot from you !

 

[Patricia]

Sooooo. My hair is feeling alot better!!! I took my rollers out and my hair was completely dry, (rarely ever happens) it was drying really quick when I was rollersetting too (is that normal?). So I combed out over the sink again and there were maybe 8 broken hairs (didnt count), but none on my hands... My hair is a perfect 10!!! (how do I post pics?)

Moral of the story: My hair needed a protien treatment instead of just a conditioner?

Im so happy for you. Ok so you used the mendex as a prepoo? What did you DC with? I'm going to try the mendex 2morrow. I think you can post pic with the icon (insert image)